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18 Aug 2019 16:11:28
Just want to say how fantastic it was seeing the Ox play yesterday. Really excited to see what he adds this year.

I know the performances haven't looked amazing, but it was exactly the same last year. Conserving energy and bringing it when needed. Results are what matters.

1.) 18 Aug 2019 17:03:06
Echo both thoughts. 3 points is what counts and great to see Ox back. Big game next and no doubts Klopp will go with his strongest team possible. I think we’ve used a different midfield Combo for opening 4 games so nice to see we have strength in depth there. Our front 3 again show how important they are to our team. In between games they need to be wrapped in cotton wool.

2.) 18 Aug 2019 18:40:09
Definitely we need too b smart with keeping fresh, arsenal will be dangerous in midfield an up front with Cabellos an pepe coming in, there defence still has question Marks over, any news on keita he has surprised me how fragile he is, also shaqiri must be pissed off not getting a sniff, heard rumours he has been considering his options.

3.) 18 Aug 2019 19:53:27
Thanks Eamonsf, For starting the thread as it allows me to offer my profuse apologies to the "Ox" as i slated him on Wednesday, but yesterday boy! did he make me eat a large portion of humble pie, i thought he was terrific long may it continue.

He has put himself in pole position for that right midfield role as he is more dynamic than Henderson and has a better cross and shot, he certainly has the ability to do for us what De Brunye does for city whipping good passes across the penalty area. City only have De Brunye who can cross from Citys Right we now have TAA and the Ox, two arrows are better than one!

4.) 18 Aug 2019 20:47:22
We all know if ox can stay fit we have a real player on our hands, the injury he suffered was extremely serious an as much as I love him he has struggled with injuries throughout his career . I hope he gets the luck he deserves too play regular an show his quality with us.

5.) 18 Aug 2019 21:00:04
Hailstones, if you want to know why Shaq may not be getting any minutes pls, have the Ed01 fill you in. Everything will become clear after that. I say this cos I see a lot of fans on here (not you in particular) and on other fan sites screaming bloody murder as to why Shaq is not playing as if Klopp owes him a damn thing.

As for Ox, I personally believe that had we had a fit Ox last season, we prolly would have beaten City in both games and prolly won the PL. Why? Simple. It is cos we have seen him at his best in that same midfield position where he ripped City a new one with Fernandinho not being able to get anywhere near him as well as in other games before his injury. He is the one we missed the most in that midfield, not Fekir, Cou or some other fantasy playmaker type. I hopehe can get close to the level he got to pre-injury cos if he can, he will be indeed, like a new signing.

6.) 18 Aug 2019 21:15:36
Yea he definitely looks more comfortable in the midfield 007, his return makes Keita's injury troubles easier to take. Hope Keita has better luck with them and that they're not a long term fixture for him.

Cabellos looked good for Arsenal the other day, but Xhaka is a red card waiting to happen and that defence looks dodgy. I'm interested to see who Klopp starts in the midfield.

7.) 18 Aug 2019 23:10:20
Great to see Ox back but mental statement to say we would have beaten City in both games and won the league if he was fit last season.

8.) 18 Aug 2019 23:46:27
JK23, please offer a logical rebuttal to my opinion (supported by facts) instead of calling other people's statements mental just cos you disagree with them . Just a thought.

9.) 19 Aug 2019 06:55:58
City could have ripped us apart if they had de brunye as Well.

10.) 19 Aug 2019 08:09:06
I think auusieMark just gave a logical rebuttal.

11.) 19 Aug 2019 08:29:12
Redwolf you ask me to base my comments on facts after you base your whole comment on your own opinion saying we would have won the title and beaten City twice if a player who was injured would have been fit. Where’s the facts in that. The fact is we do not even know if Klopp would have picked Ox In the games to even play against City and for him to feature in the other games someone else who contributed last season in those games would have missed out so it would have resulted in totally different scenarios. To me the fact is we missed out on the title last season with record points. A fit Ox may or may not have got us more points but there is no probably (prolly I’m guessing that is) about it. I’m surprised you left out we would have beaten Real in the CL final and England won the World Cup if he was fit also.

12.) 19 Aug 2019 08:30:00
I think I seen ed saying its cos shaq wasn't working hard enough in games, but picked it up at end of season, I thought early on last season he was good but tailed off, still think he has got something too offer though especially this season when we need a squad .

13.) 19 Aug 2019 08:32:35
Aussie, I don 't know about that. Why? Simple. When we had Ox in the three games he played vs City in his preferred position, We won ALL three games, scoring 9 goals and conceding 4. want to know another fun fact? In all three games, KDB played ALL 90 mins. You're welcome.

14.) 19 Aug 2019 10:47:31
It’s a long road back from the injury Ox had, but he’ll get there.

15.) 19 Aug 2019 08:57:39
Ox and Keita will be very important to adding the attacking threat from midfield this year. I thought he looked good in the second half.

16.) 19 Aug 2019 10:34:58
I thought Ox did well on Saturday especially covering for Trent when he bombed forward. Hopefully Ox will play most games this season.

17.) 19 Aug 2019 12:15:29
JK23, of course I think Klopp would have played Ox in those games provided he was fit and had Klopp picked him. I didn't know I had to point out the obvious, clearly. Also, I did believe at the time that Ox would have made a massive difference in the way we played vs RM in the CL final cos I knew we would miss him big time based on his high level performances before his injury. Now I agree with you that for example, had the same scenario with Salah going off and Karius having a meltdown, we would have lost. Either way, I gave and opinion and you gave yours. That was all I was asking from you. Peace.

18.) 19 Aug 2019 12:42:43
Redwolf no worries mate. Didn’t mean any offence when I said the word ‘mental’. That word is used a lot in my work environment when we argue/ debate stuff. You saying you think Klopp would have picked him isn’t facts though and neither is predicting the outcome of a match on a player who didn’t play and you asked for facts. Practice what you preach I believe the saying is. Always enjoy a debate with you and have upmost respect for your opinion even if it’s different to mine.



12 Aug 2019 22:14:31
Who do you think will be our most important player this season?

For me its between Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho and Firmino. I'm leaning towards Fabinho.

{Ed025's Note - VVD without a doubt eamon..

1.) 12 Aug 2019 23:09:13
Alisson for me, if we'd of had Mignolet in goal last season we'd of been nowhere near the top spot and that's the important thing for me. He's the most important player in the team, it starts from that position.

VVD is huge for us but as are so many other players, what I love about this team is we're a real team now, Klopp made this happen. We don't have to rely on one or two players anymore.

Fabinho yes, if he shows what he did last season, this season again, he'll be huge for us.

Firmino I love him, by far my favourite player but the most important for me again is Alisson.

2.) 12 Aug 2019 22:37:00
Mane for me. We have lots of top top class players but Mane is my main man.

3.) 12 Aug 2019 23:23:46
I'm going to say Ox or Keita because everyone is going on about how we need creativity in the midfield. I think their presence and added depth will be crucial to this season.

4.) 12 Aug 2019 23:50:10
Totally agree Stone.

5.) 13 Aug 2019 07:47:16
Ox might get a bit of a run-out tomorrow but I don’t think that we’ll see an awful lot of him, certainly before Xmas. Klopp will play it very carefully with Ox, and he shouldn’t be relied upon. Shaqiri is the one that needs to contribute more fully, as well as Keita imo.



03 Aug 2019 01:03:11
As its a bit of a slow summer here's a question. Assuming age and transfer fee aren't factors and its completely based on their current ability (otherwise Mbappe may well be the obvious choice) which player would you most like to bring to Liverpool?

There's probably better ways to improve the squad as we already have a stacked midfield but I'm a huge fan of De Bruyne's game when fit. I just think the clear cut chance's he'd create for our front three would be lethal. Would love to hear everyone else's answers and reasoning.

{Ed0333's Note - Good question mate...I’d have Raheem Sterling back because he’d be tasty in our current set up and would cause havoc.

1.) 03 Aug 2019 05:24:01
Definitely KDB/ Brandt. I like the team the way it's set up, but I look at the 3 games against Napoli (Champions League and the friendly) and the way Benitez stifled the full backs. We played our worst games against Napoli. The 2nd league match against Spurs was the same, we scored, had our chances, then Poch stifled the full backs and it became difficult.
If we'd a KDB/ Brandt type in the midfield, then it becomes easier. If Keita plays the way I expect him to play though, I think he can be that guy.

2.) 03 Aug 2019 07:24:40
As good as Sterling is and how well he would do in our current team, he would not displace Mane or Salah.

3.) 03 Aug 2019 07:49:57
Sane or Son 👍.

4.) 03 Aug 2019 08:35:37
Son, KDB and still David Silva, getting on I know but still a top, top player, even just for a year or two he'd make a difference, unfortunately for us, this will never happen. If there's one player I would of really liked to of seen at Liverpool out of the whole of the Premier League era, its him.

5.) 03 Aug 2019 08:54:45
Sane or Son? Why on earth? Mane and Salah have record totals of 22 and 32. Son and Sane have best ever totals of 14 and 10 respectively. They're grossly over rated in my opinion. If you want to get away with average goal returns you have to offer a better all around game than just being fast and having a hard shot. You have to be Firmino or Bernardo Silva level in my opinion. Link play, press efficiently, create time and space for others. I don't buy into the Sané/ Son hype. Sané is one dimensional and Son only shows up for 2 months of the season. They're bench players in our team.

Based on our system I'd probably say De Bruyne or David Silva. Their invention is what separates City and us because we have a better frontline and backline pretty mucg man for man. Throw in Fernandinho and those 3 world class players in the engine room is the game changer.

6.) 03 Aug 2019 09:30:12
Sterling is not good enuff for us, IMO. Why? He misses way too many chances for my liking. Apart from that, he is I don't know how KDB would do in our system so I can't say. I would take Son all day long cos the guy is picture perfect for our system and Klopp has been a huge admirer of him since Son's days at Hamburg and Leverkusen where he scored in ever game he played vs BVB under Klopp. Sane? Nope. He has been found out as only having pace but no consistency and has a wretched attitude.

7.) 03 Aug 2019 10:17:34
Son's good enough but Sterling isnt?

8.) 03 Aug 2019 10:50:45
For me Saul Niguez would be perfectly fitted to our midfield. Play him just ahead of fabinho he gives the perfect mix of energy, aggression, reading and control of the game and also very technical on the ball. One of the most well rounded midfielders in the game.

9.) 03 Aug 2019 12:08:36
I'm as confused as you Little Naby. Son is not fit to lace Sterling's boots. 'Bitter' comes to mind.

{Ed001's Note - that's unfair. Son is an excellent player.}

10.) 03 Aug 2019 14:38:03
Depends on how you gauge excellent Ed001. For me, he seems to start poorly, have a great couple of months, the end the season poorly too. Sterling is a consistent performer in the last 2 years.

Son started life in England looking promising but much like Sane he's simply not improved. Last year he scored 12 league goals. Mane scored more than that for Southampton 4 or 5 years ago. Maybe Son just needs to get Kane Hotspurs FC to shine but he's not a kid anymore and I think he should've improved in the last 4 years. Maybe Poch isn't that great a coach after all.

{Ed001's Note - you are judging purely on goals which says it all. Son shows up when they need someone, that is what matters. As for coaching, Poch is not that good I agree, but not sure how that is relevant. As for Sterling, I don't see the relevance. I never mentioned him.

Son is far better than you give him credit for, he never started poorly, that is just untrue, nor did he end the season poorly. He played wing, wing back, midfield and up front for Spurs when they needed him to. He is an unsung hero of their side and was pretty much the only consistent player they had last season, carrying them when Kane was out. You are ridiculously undervaluing his contribution.}

11.) 03 Aug 2019 15:24:05
Fair enough Ed. Maybe its as you've said in the past regarding other players, that I always catch him on bad days. I've rarely ever seen him play well, but I probably only watch Spurs about 5 times a year.

I only brought up Pochs coaching to try and see from your viewpoint why it might not be Sons fault that he's not improved a lot at Spurs. I'm not saying he's bad by the way. Maybe my wording has come across as too harsh. It's just that he's not good enough to start in our team and would therefore be an odd choice if we had limitless funds to sign one player. I don't agree with signing players for the bench.

{Ed001's Note - he would fit perfectly in the Klopp style and be a genuine challenge for the place of any of the front 3. If Poch would get his head out of Kane's backside and set up the team to suit all eleven players in the side, or at least as many of those eleven as possible, rather than just Kane, they would be a lot better.

I have watched Son a lot, he was excellent before he joined Spurs and it did take him a while to get going there but he has been a standout for them since doing so. They would have been lucky to finish mid-table without him last season.}

12.) 03 Aug 2019 15:51:49
I always forget you live in Dubai and can watch literally every game if you want. I'll try and watch more of him this coming season. I value your opinion enough to be open minded about it. Can only say what I see though. You are spot on about Poch with Kane though. The whole system seems built around giving him the ball so he can shoot from wherever he is.

13.) 03 Aug 2019 10:13:36
Mane and Salah miss sitters all the time specially Mane last season had the 2nd highest big chances missed in the league.



25 Jul 2019 14:11:27
The notion that the owners or Klopp aren’t spending because they feel that they don’t need to is ridiculous. If the right player or deal was available they would move. That’s literally all there is to it.

I for one can’t wait for this window to be over so the whining ends.

1.) 25 Jul 2019 15:16:30
The whining will only begin if there's no signings mate. Mark my words on that.

2.) 25 Jul 2019 16:03:22
There has been one. The lad is with the first team isn't he? Not 50mil though.

3.) 25 Jul 2019 16:09:38
its been said that some of pour players are reaching their peak now.
there are a few who are on a decline and we should have replaced them.

4.) 25 Jul 2019 16:19:22
Well if the right player comes along and a deal is done then that would show that Klopp and the owners do need to spend. A bit contradictory Eamon.

5.) 25 Jul 2019 16:25:49
Which players are on a decline, Lallana and Clyne?

They were not even needed last season even if they were fit to play.

Trent replaced Clyne, and the club made signings of Ox and Keita for midfield.

Not sure what you are on about Deciptikon.

6.) 25 Jul 2019 16:30:15
It very much isn’t contradictory, if the right player isn’t there they should spend. If the player isn’t, they shouldn’t. We should be looking for improvements that make the most of our resources, that’s how you manage a club well. Otherwise you end up like Manchester United.

7.) 25 Jul 2019 16:30:59
Who is on a decline yet? Milly? No way. Lallana i suppose. But in a big squad you're always going to have players who are in their 30s i suppose. I don't think 30 is old anymore. And many midfielders play their best football at 30.

I think the op is spot on. If the right deal is found, that would make us a stronger squad, we'd go for it. I don't think i've been very excited about many of the players we've been linked with this summer. Couthino maybe, but that was a nostalgia trip. We have moved on. We have come so far that we all said "pip had his chance he blew it" i haven't heard us talk about our squad like this since the 2006 team with alonso and gerrard, masch ect. I think this team has surpassed that group.

8.) 25 Jul 2019 16:51:37
It may well be Milner’s last season with us plus it’s lallana’s last year of his contract. Nothing wrong a bit of forward planning.

9.) 25 Jul 2019 17:41:49
Drogie planning forward when a player like Milner is still at Anfield?

Who do you want to take up Milners place at the moment seeing him sitting on the bench?

We are stacked in midfield.

10.) 25 Jul 2019 18:37:02
Drogie, we will not be signing players just to make fans fell good about things. That will not happen under Klopp's leadership and people need to get over that cos Klopp has been here long enuff for people to know he won't do that so why whine about it? For then upteenth time if a player is out there and all conditions are there, we will move. Klopp and the Ed's have said so repeatedly yet we hear the same stuff all the time cos Klopp is not doing what some of us want. Good grief!

Milner is going nowhere this season and there is no rush to resign him (if he wants) cos well, even he does not know what he wants to do now but there will be ample time for that at season's end. So why should we replace him when he is still here? That makes very little logical sense, if any. He may decide to retire with us or leave if Leeds come up and he wants to go there or somewhere else. No one knows what he will do so why pre-empt the situation? Come on, man.

11.) 25 Jul 2019 18:58:58
I think if Keita hadn't have had an unimpressive season as he did. Nobody would be that bothered about signings, it's that one area where he's not lived up to the hype.

12.) 25 Jul 2019 19:30:33
Get your point regarding Fabhino Ed001 But I just don’t see where the goals are going to come from in midfield.
As much as I love Hendo, he often leaves his shooting boots in the locker, Gini scored a couple, Keita was hampered with injuries and we can’t rely on the Ox.

Too often last season saw the front 3 snuffed out, 7 draws, 3 o 4 of those 0-0 cost us the league. A few of those draws came around Christmas when the fixtures were piling up mate. We just didn’t have the squad depth to win games,

West Ham away was a prime example along with Leicester at home. I was at both those games and we were fortunate to come away with a draw, especially Leicester, we completely ran out of ideas in midfield.

Any other season, 3 or 4 years ago would have seen us romp the league but unfortunately we have City to contend with so for me, we need a bit more.

{Ed001's Note - so you don't think having Origi to call on as a sub rather than Sturridge will make a difference? Or Brewster?}

13.) 25 Jul 2019 20:33:19
Whining? So what your saying is, is there's not one football player in the planet that could improve this squad? WOW! We will see what happens but sadly I'm resigned to another fruitless pursuit of the title to be honest.

14.) 25 Jul 2019 20:40:36
Can you imagine this team with Gerrard, Masch, and Alonso as the midfield tho? Frightening.

15.) 25 Jul 2019 21:02:20
Sorry ed001 my post was a reply to you from max’s post, so many threads on transfers can’t keep up ha ha

I dunno Ed001, I think Origi is a great impact sub and I have watched a bit of Brewster, he looks a talent, the rough and tumble of the premier league is a different kettle off fish though. I’m really hoping Brewster will flourish playing along side the likes of Salah, Bobby and Manè, he does know where the goal is that’s for sure.

16.) 25 Jul 2019 21:08:19
Max - you really think Lallana will be with us next season? So why not forward plan for a player that’s on the treatment table for most of the season? With regards to Milner I said it may well be his last season, his boyhood club is Leeds so you can’t rule him out leaving.

So yes, a bit of forward planning, especially in the case of Lallana.

17.) 25 Jul 2019 21:16:48
Jesus we came second to the best squad I've seen in the prem by 1 PT, they are under investigation for their financial behaviour over the last few years, building that squad.

We were so far ahead of third it's crazy, we're in a good place.

18.) 25 Jul 2019 21:27:13
Red Wolfe - Signing players to make the fans happy? Comment of the week mate, give us a break mate.

Just in case you’ve forgotten, we were 10 points clear of City on the 29th December, our squad just couldn’t cope, mate. I went to all the games over the Christmas/ New Year period, we ran simply short of ideas once the front 3 were nullified and at times they were.

We go into the new season with a home game against Norwich on the 9th, Chelsea in Istanbul on the 14th, saints away on the 17th, arsenal at home on the 24th

That’s a massive 15 days, it will be interesting to see how we fare so early on in the season, I just how we don’t lose any ground.

19.) 25 Jul 2019 22:45:41
Drogie, I stopped reading your response when you started peddling the nonsense about us being ten points clear. That never happened at anytime last season (on equal games played) . Never! That baseless talking point is what rival fans use to taunt us and I can take that from a brainless drone of a rival fan BUT coming from you and LFC fan, it is even more pathetic.

Bottom line is this: We are interested in Max Cornet of Lyon (very good player that ripped city up in the CL last season) who will add cover to the attack and probably at AM. If that happens, then great. If it does not then I will ride with Klopp and this team till the end, like many of us did last season. If you are not happy about that then that is your business. Peace!

20.) 25 Jul 2019 23:22:39
Red wolf If you cannot be bothered to read all of someone’s post how can you reply to it expecting them to then read yours?

21.) 26 Jul 2019 19:00:59
JK23, go read the first paragraph of my latest response to Drogie and you will see why I topped. N BTW, people are free to read or not read my posts for diff. reasons. That is not the reason we post comments on here at least not for me. We do it to lend a voice to the public discourse about our club. Peace and Love!

22.) 27 Jul 2019 01:34:26
Lallana has never been a player we've needed to call upon for last 2 years, we had AOC season before last, keita this year. With both of them available at the same time we are instantly stronger with depth. Milner is invaluable with his experience and versatility. But his performance levels have stayed very high, if he continues in this way I'm sure another contract will be on the table for a year or 2 extension. If grujic can show his ability with s full season in bundesliga he is another option. Only 12 months ago many were calling for wiji hendo and Milner to be sold. Only look to replace a player who is declining when he is actually declining. Lallana for sure I expect this his last season, but he doesn't need any replacing.



24 Jul 2019 19:18:35
Best of luck to Clyne in his recovery. Terrible injury.




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07 Aug 2019 22:11:32
Nailed it 6Times, Pepe, Rodri, Cancelo, Ndombele. all players where I can understand the price tag involved and why our current/ historic rivals went for them. Then There's United splashing out £80 Million on Maguire. Hilarious.



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04 Aug 2019 20:37:18
Not even close to an accurate prediction. In your defence Lerchy that’s how the vast majority of confident calls go on this site.



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27 Jul 2019 17:35:38
My point was he doesn’t break into our starting 11 unless you’re thinking of replacing mane with him. Not unless we change our formation. While I’d like him, he’s a very expensive rotation option, something that might not be appealing to the player. Again I’ve not heard of any serious interest from Liverpool other then the odd transfer rumour.

Cornet feels far more likely.



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27 Jul 2019 15:29:55
Drogie with all due respect, how does he “fit perfectly into our system”? We don’t play with a CAM and he’s hardly going to replace Mane is he?

I’d like a CAM to provide further flexibility, but it’s not our preferred system. If we don’t get him it’s not the end of the world, haven’t heard anything concrete about us being in for him anyway. I’m a fan of his but like the vast majority of us my ‘scouting’ consisted of the odd game and YouTube highlights. Let’s have faith in the actual scouts.



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23 Jul 2019 06:54:10
While some blogs have stated Chris has reported this I can’t find said “report” anywhere.




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22 Aug 2019 20:35:06
Definitely jumped the gun there. Everyone will have a role to play and rotation is key. Ox at his best is in my Liverpool first 11, but he's a long way from his best. I'm thrilled he's back and mentioned it after the last game, but let's not get carried away.

And can we please not turn his return into a chance to rubbish on Henderson. I thought the fan base was over that as a result of his performances at the end of last season. They don't even play the same position for England. Passing over the Armband? what? you're years off.



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22 Aug 2019 16:14:25
Is the Southampton game covered in the last one? Will be sure to check it out.

{Ed001's Note - just did one last night just waiting on Ed033 to post it up. Bit later than usual as we had technical difficulties which took a couple of days to resolve.}



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21 Aug 2019 19:23:11
Brilliant article Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - thanks Eamon.}



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19 Aug 2019 14:17:13
Jesus, that's hyperbolic at best. Particularly with regards to the last line which isn't even close to being true.

He's certainly been in the best form of the three over these last couple months. I'd argue he's the most well rounded as well. However, I still think Salah is a better goal scorer and Firmino more integral to the front 3. there's a difference between being a better player and being integral.



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18 Aug 2019 21:15:36
Yea he definitely looks more comfortable in the midfield 007, his return makes Keita's injury troubles easier to take. Hope Keita has better luck with them and that they're not a long term fixture for him.

Cabellos looked good for Arsenal the other day, but Xhaka is a red card waiting to happen and that defence looks dodgy. I'm interested to see who Klopp starts in the midfield.