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25 Sep 2015 20:27:10
The link with Walter Mazzarri surely cannot be true. We will become a laughing stock if this is correct.
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05 Jul 2018 21:49:51
If the rumours are true and Klopp is sticking with Karius then that is ridiculous. We’ve thrown away 10 league points already. This shows that Klopp has blind loyalty and is not ruthless enough. This is his fourth season now and he has taken us to 3 finals and lost them all. We should be looking for a keeper as priority not sticking with Karius who is not up to the job.
1.) 05 Jul 2018 21:52:47
Hardly ridiculous, and quite fickle of you. Our performances and defense improved dramatically when VVD arrived, but let's also remember that Karius became first choice around the same time. Karius still has his flaws but he is still very young for a keeper and improving with each game. He deserves a chance to redeem himself.
2.) 05 Jul 2018 21:54:38
Is this final thing going to be used everytime someone doesn't agree with one of Klopps decisions?
{Ed002's Note - Weirdly enough the big issue is missing. Not whether Liverpool should give Karius anoth chance, but whether Karius should give the Liverpool trash that made death threats to him and wished cancer on his children another chance. What happens if he drops a cross in game two - just like those dropped by Courtois and De Gea in the same gameweek - cancer, death, what? Regardless who the goalkeeper is, he stands little or no chance at Liverpool in front of the relentlessly demanding fans. Liverpool may not be able to afford the Oblak's and Allison's, or perhaps the fans cannot spell their names, but where is the attraction for these guys?}
3.) 05 Jul 2018 22:00:11
What's ridiculous is so called fans going against him because he made mistakes in that final, it's pathetic and it's getting old. Move on and support the lad because if he is our number one then he needs our support more then ever.
4.) 05 Jul 2018 22:20:18
Yet it’s ok to criticise Mignolet who is also our player 🤨.
5.) 05 Jul 2018 22:25:48
Agree wholeheartedly with Ed002 and Salah. Again everyone needs to remember it is only a game. Family first, wishing death and misfortune on anyone over a game is just plain ignorant.
6.) 05 Jul 2018 22:27:28
Karius let two very soft goals in in the champions league final but let's be honest he was very lucky it wasn't a lot more over the course of the season. He started poor where his errors cost goals got dropped and when he came back into the team made some decent saves fair enough but the errors were still there, luckily for him they didn't always lead to goals scored. Feel for the lad getting death threats that's a total lack of class from our fans but the lads simply not good enough unfortunatley.
7.) 05 Jul 2018 22:35:24
It's almost as if Karius wasn't part of our best season in a decade ðŸ˜.
8.) 05 Jul 2018 22:37:40
Where are you getting 10 points from? Did you just make it up?
9.) 05 Jul 2018 22:45:02
He may well have been but djimi traore was also part of our last most successful camoaign.
10.) 05 Jul 2018 22:46:07
Ron don’t be flippant
We’re talking about death threats and personal abuse here are we not? Hardly comparable to “Mignolet is pants and can’t catch a crossâ€.
11.) 05 Jul 2018 22:51:05
the people wishing death on people or cancer to people’s children are not Liverpool fans or football fans or whatever their job may be in life. They are scum and would be writing this sort of rubbish regardless of their so called allegiance to a team.
There are hundred of thousand Liverpool fans maybe millions worldwide who are good law abiding decent people. The idiots that write this rubbish are vermin.
I do feel though that unfortunately regardless of how well he does next season he is always just one mistake away from giving these utter persons the airtime the small little idiots believe they deserve.
I also hope for his own sake he leaves. For what it’s worth I don’t think he is good enough if we want to challenge for a title but the man seems decent and should be treated with respect.
12.) 05 Jul 2018 22:11:24
Absolutely spot on Ed2.
13.) 05 Jul 2018 22:14:23
Great reply ed.
Am I disappointed we haven't bought a world class keeper yes will it cost us points I'm sure it will but when people say disgusting ridiculous things involving a players family it passes me off an embarrassed to say I'm a Liverpool fan. YNWA 96.
14.) 05 Jul 2018 22:14:39
Can’t argue with ed2 on this one at all. If I had death threats with every mistake I made at work the postman would a fairly sizeable trolly.
15.) 05 Jul 2018 22:17:01
Well said Ed002. Opinions are one thing, but the threats and cancer wishes are disgusting. We are all passionate about our teams, and want to know about transfers, goings on, feel elated with wins and despair in defeat but at the end of it all people seem to forget one thing. It’s a game.
16.) 05 Jul 2018 22:29:04
Ed what got said was ott but mate it was the champions league final. The champions league final.
In sports teams it gets overly heated bit the Colombia players have been told to not go hom. It's not just liverpool fans.
I don't think klopp should give him another chances for the lads sake. He is going to make another mistake but at liverpool it world circle the world!
{Ed002's Note - I can't see it being a great rationale for the extreme that he was playing in the CL final. If you truly think that true, then you have to question why anyone else would be interested in the job.}
17.) 05 Jul 2018 23:31:19
Actually, Navy, 002 brought up the death threats etc when the OP just said he was unhappy with the idea of Karius staying as number 1. It was a few horrible people that the rest of us don't call fans. That is what Twitter is rife with. Talk about tarring us all with the same brush.
18.) 05 Jul 2018 23:38:40
Anyone else think there is absolutely no difference between Mignolet and Karius?
19.) 05 Jul 2018 23:45:32
Let’s not forget that Migs was given ages to prove he was right for the job. Karius has half a season.
20.) 05 Jul 2018 23:46:27
YNWA?
21.) 06 Jul 2018 00:15:29
Ed002, just read through your comments and you’ve got the nail on the head. The fact that Karius is back and wanting to fight for his place after the utterly vile things that were said about him speaks volumes. At the end of the day do we pillory Gerrard for his slip? No? So let’s give Karius a chance. We’re not buying Oblak or Becker and Klopp is backing Karius.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know the deal but if Karius is going to try and make a go of it he moves to near the top of the respect list.}
22.) 05 Jul 2018 23:25:25
Mk, he wasn't, Mignolet was our keeper in our best session for a decade.
23.) 06 Jul 2018 00:21:30
As wrong as any death threat is, I'm sure Karius won't let a small number of scum keyboard warriors on Twitter have any bearing on where he plays his football.
24.) 06 Jul 2018 00:26:04
I thinks Karius knows more than anyone what he has to do this season, and what is expected of him, I’m sure he and Klopp has talked in depth about what happened in the final and the aftermath. If, as we are led to believe he will be our number one keeper, every aspect of his performances this season will be under intense scrutiny, so those vultures circling overhead will be ready to swoop at the slightest error to begin their tirade of vile abuse again. Can he rise to the challenge, only time will tell, I wish him luck, by god he’s going to need it.
25.) 06 Jul 2018 00:58:12
to clarify I didn't mean to justify it by saying well it was the champions league final, I meant it was a very very intense situation, a lot of hearts where broken that night and we got a loss from mistakes, along with having Ramos laughing at us when he suolexed Salah, to then go and lift the trophy with the smugest bastard grid. Just a very very tough night for all.
I apologise on behalf of liverpool fans to karius but understand there sentiments aswel but no-one should say some of the things that where said.
26.) 06 Jul 2018 01:15:47
Yep, again can not disagree. After what happened I’d like nothing more than for him to come back stronger and I think the fact he’s not prepared to give up speaks volumes.
27.) 06 Jul 2018 01:57:38
To be fair karius has no choice but to go again with us. Where on earth does he go on the back of that match.
28.) 06 Jul 2018 01:33:46
Is op harry.
29.) 06 Jul 2018 05:36:05
If we ditched every player who made a big mistake we wouldn't have a team. It was the media saying "Karius is finished" the club never said anything like that. You can't sell a player for one bad game.
Karius is quite a good keeper, and has the potential to be really really good. He has some invaluable European experience now and I bet he is more careful from now on.
30.) 06 Jul 2018 07:59:22
Kloppsboss the hypocrite :
"I don't think klopp should give him another chances for the lads sake. He is going to make another mistake but at liverpool it world circle the world! "
"To be fair karius has no choice but to go again with us. Where on earth does he go on the back of that match. "
Flip flop much lad?
31.) 06 Jul 2018 08:26:01
Mignolet is 29 and has had about 5 years of chances.
Karius is 24 and hasn't even had 30 league games yet.
Mignolet has proven repeatedly that despite improving and being a nice bloke, he won't ever be good enough for a top side. Karius has proven in patches that he could be good enough.
The difference is that the Mignolet detractors aren't basing their entire argument on one second half of a football match, nor are they sending death threats, nor are they questioning him as a person for posting photos of his new coffee shop all over the internet, nor are they saying he totally useless or will get Klopp the sack, and nor are they asking him to retire early 🤔 It's completely incomparable.
I'm sure the Karius haters will say that it isn't based on one half of football, but if that is the case, where were you all before the Champions League final? If people want to be fickle, they should wear it with pride and stop pretending they are something they're not; because the rest of us aren't stupid and can see full well that the opinions changed overnight 🤷â€â™‚ï¸
The Mignolet comparison that a few people are making sounds like desperate clutching at straws to justify a witch hunt against Karius, a younger and better player whose had at most a quarter of the time to prove himself as Mignolet has had.
Putney, I disagree that 13/ 14 was our best season in a decade. We had no other competition to worry about and still threw away the title. I do take your point though that Mignolet was a part of a very good season. That is yet more proof that you can do well in spite of your goalkeeper though so it doesn't really support the argument of it being cricial to get Karius out, even if you do believe he is as at the same level as Mignolet.
32.) 06 Jul 2018 00:19:02
The original poster never mentioned death threats or abuse. It’s a small minority of idiots who would stoop to that level and frankly the world gets them idiots in every section of it both in and away from football and clubs. However there is nothing wrong with the posters opinion that Karius isn’t good enough, I agree with him, I’ve watched more than enough of him and people saying get behind him are the same people who will be annoyed (and rightly so) when he has poor games. Our squad is strong, if we could make one signing that would really improve our team it would be a goalkeeper, there’s no denying that fact and it’s ok to say without people assuming they’re throwing abuse or death threats at Karius.
33.) 06 Jul 2018 08:52:45
Great post MK, completely agree with everything there mate, well said.
34.) 06 Jul 2018 09:38:18
Flash the red.
I've said that klopp shouldn't give him another chance for his sake? As it's going to be more pressured than those typing the nuclear lauch codes.
I've said that karius has no choice but to accept the club's decision and to be fair were was he going to go anyway if we did sell.
You are a tool mate.
35.) 06 Jul 2018 09:45:18
Get him out he's dreadful. I hope he just requests to leave.
36.) 06 Jul 2018 12:46:07
MK, looking back 08/ 09 was better than 17/ 18 and 13/ 14 but I can't sit with an argument that a drain where we came fourth was our best.
Just in case you're including me in the 'where we the doubters before the final' I have a long history of doubting him. Around March my view was softening but the mistakes against Roma and then the final mean't I'm back to believing we need someone better.
22 Nov 2017 16:41:11
I have been a critic of Klopp throughout the season and I was bitterly disappointed at what happened last night. But we will have to judge Klopp at the end of this season which in effect will be his third. If he does not win anything are the owners going to stick or twist. Personally I would give him one more season at Anfield after this one.
1.) 22 Nov 2017 17:10:07
Yes I agree. But it needs some changes in personel and formation, urgently.
2.) 22 Nov 2017 17:36:36
During the next two transfer windows, Klopp has to bring in the right players, or he will get his P45, this is a results League, the owners want to see something for their money .
we have no leaders, and not enough winners, too many of our players seem okay with a draw .
3.) 22 Nov 2017 17:45:29
Can we all just calm down. We drew a match lads. Too much talk as if we've crashed out of Europe altogether.
4.) 22 Nov 2017 18:05:03
we need to kop on quickly or we will be playing on a Thu night, we need a bit more steel in our side, we have too many nice players .
5.) 22 Nov 2017 18:17:54
An away draw against a team which won the Europe League for 2/ 3 years in a row is hardly a poor performance. Yes it was disappointing given our start but think some comments here are verging on hysterical.
6.) 22 Nov 2017 18:38:50
I don't think owners are too concerned with success. As long as sponsorship and sky money keeps rolling in they will be happy. Klopp seems to be a good public face to help attract these sponsors.
{Ed002's Note - The owners are desperate for success and Klopp does not attract sponsorship of any note at all.}
7.) 22 Nov 2017 19:04:08
I would think success would bring the sponorship. I know you will say FSG have invested plenty, but compared to our direct competitors we spend significantly less on players and wages. I don't count Spurs as they have done a superb job but I think that side will start to break up very soon.
Our transfer record is £39m and highest wage maybe £150,000 a week. I would say Chelsea, Man Ure, City, have all got 3 or more players that cost more and all 3 clubs pay upto £300,000 per week. Difficult to truly compete if year after year your competition spend £50m more than you.
I do agree though that we do not help ourselves and the money we have wasted over the years has been shocking. But the main transfers Mane, Salah are both worth more money now and the rest of Klopp's buys would overall make a small profit as well. So I hope if we keep Klopp out of negotiations we can bring in some quality players asap. Invest now to increase the revenue and improve on the pitch.
8.) 22 Nov 2017 19:09:56
When Klopp first joined I was very excited that we had a Manager who had won a league elsewhere so I thought he should know what it takes to help us win the title. He will have had 3 seasons when this one ends and we are no closer to winning the league than we were when we had Rodgers. Now I don’t expect miracles but what I do expect is progress and I can’t see any. I think If we miss out on champions league this season it’s simple Klopp has to go.
9.) 22 Nov 2017 23:57:44
we had 2.5 rubbish seasons with Rodgers and one fluke season.
10.) 23 Nov 2017 00:18:52
only problem there Cy, is, who do you bring in . I would hate to see the likes of big Sam or Pulis throwing their hat into the ring .
11.) 23 Nov 2017 08:32:10
Short memories round here - it took 6/ 7 seasons before Alex Ferguson won the league at United but everyone here expects it done in 2.5 seasons - bonkers.
12.) 23 Nov 2017 10:17:22
There plenty of great Managers out there HTBAR who could take us to the next level. Great ones such Ancelotti, Maurizio Sarri, Diego Simeone, Thomas Tuchel to name a few. I even think Benitez has unfinished business with us and I would welcome him back with open arms.
Johnny football has changed, its a results business now and nowadays Klopp is a lucky man to be given 3 seasons to win something at a club like us. He was linked with the biggest jobs in world football before he joined us and If he was at Chelsea, Real Madrid or Bayern he would not be given this amount of time to try and win something.
13.) 23 Nov 2017 12:20:46
3 Seasons for a club like us? We have won nothing of note in 11 years, we have little spending power compared to the other big clubs, we constantly sell our bestter players instead of building a team, we aren't run by football people, we are lucky to get top 4.
14.) 23 Nov 2017 16:20:07
I feel Klopp has done well on certain things and poorly on certain things. Obviously our attack is threatening, love the speed on our wings and Firmino is all round an awesome player up front.
He's been very poor coaching defensive tactics and set pieces, or. he's been addressing these issues and our players just don't get it.
When we have the same issues week in week out there is a problem.
I wouldn't abandon Klopp but maybe bring in an assistant manager who's an expert on defensive tactics, cause let's face it the lads aren't getting it. And that's not putting blame completely on our backline but everyone as a cohesive unit. We score goals as a squad we concede goals as a squad.
Moreno made mistakes, if he hadn't maybe we win that game, maybe we don't, but up 3-0 @ half, there is no way we should be drawing or losing that game. But that realistically sums up our season thus far as until change is made in some form, we are always going to be worried, even 3-0 up!
Let's see some change, although I don't think Klopp out is the answer.
23 Oct 2017 07:38:06
I have been critical of Klopp myself but I think we have to let the season take its course and assess the situation then.
1.) 23 Oct 2017 07:44:16
I think we have been following this procedure since 1990.
2.) 23 Oct 2017 16:55:17
Agree RedEka. Let's have another transition period. We seem to be the only top club in England to accept it hence why our great players coutinho mane will be next and players in the past Suarez Torres masch all left or will leave. No ambition just accept what's happening cause its transition. Don't see this nonsense going on at chelsea, city or dare I say it united.
15 Oct 2017 08:59:12
A good performance yesterday. Not much from them. Promising for the future.
23 Aug 2017 22:09:02
People make me laugh on this site talking about Klopp. He will only be a good manager when he starts winning trophies not when we have just qualified for the group stages of a competition against a team that would probably end up towards the bottom of the premier league if they were in it. We need to be realistic.
1.) 23 Aug 2017 22:13:42
Are you drunk lad?
2.) 23 Aug 2017 22:15:50
"Do one" ðŸ‘ðŸ¼
Enjoy the win and being back in the champions league lad.
3.) 23 Aug 2017 22:17:50
Special you.
4.) 23 Aug 2017 22:19:36
Jesus give it a rest man.
5.) 23 Aug 2017 22:35:59
That's okay. Enjoy your laugh. Because we're all laughing at you.
6.) 23 Aug 2017 22:44:10
What a duck egg.
09 Aug 2016 20:43:53
Liverpool going for quality signings. There is more chance of Frank Sinatra making a comeback!
13 Oct 2017 20:38:18
Kenny Dalglish should never have been sacked. Our last manager to win a trophy. Case closed.
21 Sep 2017 20:42:03
Klopp is that much world class in 3 seasons he still cannot organise defenders. A pathetic post from someone settling for mediocrity. You are the prime example of a Liverpool supporter with no ambition whatsoever.
What is ed001s solution to the problem. Stick with Brendan or appoint somebody else.
{Ed001's Note - a complete revamp of the whole club, including a change of manager.}