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10 Jul 2018 23:44:20
Quite a lot of media outlets tonight reporting lfc have opened talks with stoke about signing Shaqiri, 12-14m being touted. Not sure how true it is, can any of the Ed's shed any light on this rumour.

Red_1971

{Ed002's Note - It seems reasonable.}


1.) 11 Jul 2018 08:39:38
Oh god no.


2.) 11 Jul 2018 09:07:54
Ergh. bad call, ill get behind him if it is the case, but when fifa19 comes out he's going straight away.


3.) 11 Jul 2018 09:29:05
Absolute solid deal. Can't really go wrong. Gives Wilson a year of a loan, gives us solid cover and potentially another Robertson or chambo that could surprise us.

If not west ham or someone will take him off us next year for about 20 mil.


4.) 11 Jul 2018 09:24:50
I remember people saying oh god no when Ox signed.
I would rather we went all out to get a great keeper though, surely that’s the position that requires reinforcing more than any other. I worry that Karius will be a noose around klopps neck.


5.) 11 Jul 2018 09:38:43
Think he’d be a good option for the bench and would provide better cover than Wilson ojo etc because of his experience. I think he’ll improve under Klopp. Plus he seemed to do well in the World Cup.


6.) 11 Jul 2018 09:39:21
Kloppsboss, solid deal? please tell me you're joking? can't go wrong? I think you'll find if we sign him quite a lot could go wrong mate.


7.) 11 Jul 2018 10:02:41
I do not think Shaqiri will be another Robertson or Chamberlain who will suprise us. The difference with Shaqiri is that he has a terrible attitude which could have a negative effect on the rest of the squad.
Lazy and trouble everywhere he has played, but we expect him to change if he comes to Liverpool.


8.) 11 Jul 2018 10:07:13
12- 14 mill what a snip of a deal he'd be decent cover In my opinion.


9.) 11 Jul 2018 10:32:20
I don't know what to make of the Shaqiri deal, he seems a lazy got with a big ego who doesn't seem to want to do the dirtier side if a game. Basically everything klopp doesn't like in a player. So seems strange deal if you ask me. He is talented when he wants so maybe klopp likes a challenge of tapping into that and thinks 13m seems like a low risk? I think Brendan Rodgers can testify that a leopard doesn't change it's spots (balotelli) and would maybe go back in time and go for a player more suited to his style management instead of trying to tap into his talent.


10.) 11 Jul 2018 10:43:05
Hasn’t even kicked a ball and he’s getting slated! going on about his attitude etc as if u know him! Who says it all won’t change if he signs for us! Like ox and robbo give him a chance! He’s more medals then probably all our team!


11.) 11 Jul 2018 10:48:40
His attitude concerns me but his ability does not. If he decides sulk at lfc then he’ll soon find himself on the periphery.

Hope he proves everyone wrong if he does sign.


12.) 11 Jul 2018 10:52:26
Considering mahrez went for 60 odd it's a good deal for me. Not saying he's better than mahrez but he's not far behind at all on his day.


13.) 11 Jul 2018 10:59:41
Gud signing at that price, totally agree with Kloppsboss.


14.) 11 Jul 2018 11:04:38
I'm okay with this acquisition. Much better cover for Mane and Salah than Ox or Lallana. good players but Neither are competent wingers.


15.) 11 Jul 2018 11:25:41
i believe Shaquiri is crying out for a manager like Klopp and a stage like Liverpool. we will see him at his best i think. very shrewd signing if it goes ahead.


16.) 11 Jul 2018 11:33:38
Put it into perspective. We sold Ibe a few years ago for £15 million. The market has inflated since that time, Shaqiri is a Champions League winner, a multiple championship winner in 2 different countries, has over 70 national caps, and he's only 26, and oh he's only costing £12m. If he was coming direct from Bayern or Inter people on here be creaming themselves about the deal. Let's not kid ourselves he's not going to start, but look at our bench, we have no quality attacking cover, shaqiri can play wide and central, and look what happened when salah went off against Real, we fell apart because we had to change system. And Klopp does his reaearch into all his signings, so i doubt his "attutude" issue is as big as being made out or he wouldn't be joining. But anyways at 12m it's all relatively low risk.


17.) 11 Jul 2018 11:36:15
Salah like What?

Absolutely no way a 27 year international winger, with potentially champions league experience, from liverpool goes for anything less than 20 million in today's market.

West ham, Leicester, Roma, Dortmund, secilla, Valencia, Newcastle. Just a few that would defiantly be interested and are now if not for us being interested.

Aside from that, well, he might actually do well and for 12 million in today's prices what would be a reasonable return. 10 goals and 10 assists or is that pushing it. In our team, the way we attack!

Your just worried because someone we all respect in 001 has pointed out that he isn't the biggest fan. Well 001 would agree that he has had some doubt over attitude in a few players and been surprised and has concerns over our marquee keitas attitude. Also vvd and manes attitude where questioned.

Let's just see what klopp can do. if the boy reacts to finally being in a top set up, with a loving manager, in a very attacking team and thrives.


18.) 11 Jul 2018 11:53:03
I fully agree Kloppsboss, I think at the price it's is a good deal and Klopp will get the best out of him.


19.) 11 Jul 2018 12:07:41
Why is no one asking the obvious question? Why is Shaqiri available for only 12-14m? Nearly all players go for at least slightly more than their worth in the current market. So if he is available for that much it must be because no one else in interested in signing him.

Also I would seriously question the logic of bringing in a player "for cover" who has a notorious bad attitude especially when he isn't first choice. Surely its obvious that it will end badly.

Also he is known for being lazy and he lacks drive to do the defensive work, how will that fit into Klopps system?


20.) 11 Jul 2018 12:27:06
Shappy, you hit the nail on the head there mate.

Kloppsboss 'Your just worried because someone we all respect in 001 has pointed out that he isn't the biggest fan. ' what are you bringing Ed1 into it for? I have my own opinion of Shaqiri thank you mate.

Shaqiri is a fool to himself and worse to his team mates, he thinks he's gods gift. How will he react been on the bench most of the time? he will cause hassle and act like a teenager. Nevermind all of this Klopp will get the best out of him business and he will change him etc, I don't buy it one bit. I think if we sign him it'll be a huge mistake but I will reluctantly support him as I would any incoming Liverpool player.

How long are people going to use the Ox and Robbo as an example? it's got nothing to do with them, they're completely different players and never had the attitude like this lazy, arrogant turd has.

He will disrupt the dressing room and prove to be an absolute failure imo. I'm not saying this stuff because Ed1 has a similar opinion, I'm saying it because anybody who has seen Shaqiri play enough knows this stuff and I have seen plenty of him, enough to know he's the opposite of what Liverpool currently have, we have a team full of passionate team members who would do anything for the squad to win, not many are lazy. Yet you want Shaqiri in? everybody is entitled to their own opinion but I think this would be a huge mistake. Let's hope I'm proved wrong.


21.) 11 Jul 2018 12:29:39
For the price and a bit of Klopp magic in his ear I think its a sound signing.


22.) 11 Jul 2018 12:36:53
Shappy. He is that price because he has been relegated, stoke are looking rid of his wage, which i imagine would be high for a mid table premier league club let alone a Championship one, the player also wants to leave, and has told Stoke he only wants to go to Liverpool. This is why no one else is interested and this is why we will get him for 12m. Also i believe he has a relegation release clause but am not aware at what that is set at.

{Ed001's Note - he has never said he only wants to join Liverpool.}


23.) 11 Jul 2018 12:38:04
I think you’ll find the price is down to a relegation release clause.


24.) 11 Jul 2018 12:38:13
Agreed KB. Although im 100% sure that Salah is on the wind up. Shaqiri for that money is a no brainer and I am confident that Klopp will eek out improvement in attitude and consistency. Worst case scenario is it doesn't work out and we sell at a profit. I shall mark Salah's post and remind him of his rather short sighted comments when we see the outcome of which I am confident will be a psoitive one for club and player. YNWA.


25.) 11 Jul 2018 12:41:31
He's going for that price dude because he has a relegation release clause or he would be stleast 20 million.

It's not just Robertson and the ox

It's Trent, Henderson, Lovren, Milner, mane, bobby, lallaba. all of them have had question marks and klopp gave them an arena to play.

There is nothing that can go that bad with this transfer, it's a no brainer. End of.


26.) 11 Jul 2018 12:50:22
Brandt New, please do, I look forward to it mate.


27.) 11 Jul 2018 13:09:06
I second that brandt lad. We shall show Salah the way.


28.) 11 Jul 2018 13:40:46
We all hoped Balotelli would change ( including me) how did that end up.


29.) 11 Jul 2018 13:45:31
I think we just have to wait and see guys. I'm not overly impressed with his career to date, but if he becomes a Liverpool player, he'll have my full support until he proves that support is unwarranted.

Don't think it's a financially risky deal (assuming a decent resale value if things don't work out), I can't see the club taking the risk if they think he's doomed to failure, and there is a player in there no doubt. It could turn out badly, but since nobody has ever seen "Shaqiri the Liverpool player" play, I don't see the point in getting upset about this transfer.

He'll prove one set of fans wrong one way or another, and for the sake of LFC, I hope it's the ones who don't want him.


30.) 11 Jul 2018 14:02:36
I’m sure Klopp will mention the work required at this club. And if he doesn’t go along/ agree with this then we either won’t sign him, he won’t play or he won’t be on the bench, so I don’t see what the big whoop is. Let’s give he lad a chance eh he hasn’t even signed yet.


31.) 11 Jul 2018 14:08:42
Shaqiri looks like the middle stage transformation of Bruce Banner to the Incredible Hulk and the brains of the latter. If he signs for LFC and smashes his role I will the first to put my hands up. But, I will be cynical until proven otherwise.

{Ed002's Note - Put your hands up where?}


32.) 11 Jul 2018 14:23:23
What the fudge. The other week nobody on here wanted him AT ALL! Everybody slated his attitude and now everybody seems to want him and are down voting negative comments and arguing with people who don't want him like Salah xD

What changed? Was it seeing him topless and realizing he is fat muscly and not just fat? xD

I still don’t think he is the right fit.

{Ed002's Note - He is if it is a big enough hole.}


33.) 11 Jul 2018 14:31:16
😂 Ed002 I will rise to your wager. If Shaqiri signs. and smashes the season. I will put my right hand and Salah’s left hand up my palare pipe.
@Salah - sorry but you’re in this with me whether you like it or not.


34.) 11 Jul 2018 14:52:46
Good one ed2, that made me chuckle a bit louder than I thought I would xD.


35.) 11 Jul 2018 14:42:03
Think of it this way, Jordan Ibe cost 15 million. Shaqiri will be a squad player and if he turns it on will be first team its a win win if he's poop he will get sold for 12 mill minimum. he's good just needs up his work rate which I'm sure will be discussed before being signed. Good squad player for 12 million for sure.


36.) 11 Jul 2018 15:39:56
Lol Paulinho, I was thinking the same earlier mate, it's hilarious how quick peoples minds have changed about him. This just proves their lack of knowledge about the player imo mate, some have probably never seen him play apart from when he's played us, youtube clips and WC performances. I do think you hit the nail on the head there though mate, the way kloppsboss is going on I think he'll already have a poster of Shaqiri topless stuck to his ceiling.

Hahaha brilliant ed2/ unclebens.


37.) 11 Jul 2018 16:22:57
So we can't get everyone we want. I can see the Shaqiri deal freeing up funds toward a high end goalkeeper. Fine by me if that is the case. Rather have Shaqiri and Strakosha than say Gelson Martines and Cillessen.


38.) 11 Jul 2018 16:56:52
SALAH, I respect you as a poster and often agree with your posts.

I do however think on this occasion I disagree. I think Shaqiri could be a good signing at the price (similiaer to what Jordan Ibe was sold for a few seasons back! ) and I also think the Robertson and AOC and Mane examples are relevant actually, in that it proves fans don’t always know better than the manager and often aren’t close enough to the players or data to understand what the managers and scouts see in the players to nurture.

Don’t get me wrong, i won’t be upset if Shaqiri doesn’t sign, but I would see it as a good deal if JK signed him at this sort of price.


39.) 11 Jul 2018 16:25:07
Think he’s signing as competition for karius. In which case he starts 😉.


40.) 11 Jul 2018 17:13:02
Cheers NK and a fair post by you. We obviously have different opinions on this one mate but again, a fair post.


41.) 11 Jul 2018 18:21:11
Who's this Paulinho you speak of Salah! Haha.


42.) 11 Jul 2018 18:52:00
Hahaha apologies mate, god knows how it came out as Paulinho lol.


43.) 12 Jul 2018 07:18:53
No worries blame autocorrect, but make sure the eds don’t change it to "fat fingers" xD.


 

 

02 Jul 2018 20:25:32
Just read we've signed Issac Christie - Davies from Chelsea, to be fair i don't know much about him, looks like a youngster with potential, but what do I know, maybe the ed's Can enlighten me.

Red_1971

{Ed002's Note - Isaac Christie-Davies was promising youngster but progress at Chelsea slowed in the past couple of years and he could not make the step up to the first team squad - Liverpool will pay compensation to Chelsea for the player although it is unclear how he will be used.}


1.) 02 Jul 2018 20:40:16
Thanks for the info ed002, what position does he play and how old is he?

{Ed002's Note - Central midfield and 19 or 20.}


2.) 02 Jul 2018 20:40:16
Thanks for the info ed002, what position does he play and how old is he?

{Ed002's Note - Central midfield and 19 or 20.}


3.) 02 Jul 2018 20:48:48
Hope he settles in well and achieves his potential, appreciate your time Ed002.


4.) 02 Jul 2018 21:50:47
another chelsea youth who realises his potential is better elsewhere.

i can see an exodus in the next few years of all their best youth talent.


5.) 02 Jul 2018 22:10:24
Ed002 do you think he has the potential to progress or has he reached his limit in your opinion?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea, I only know what the club think of him.}


6.) 02 Jul 2018 22:21:19
Ok thanks.


7.) 03 Jul 2018 03:57:19
He's highly thought of, I think he will feature for the first team.


8.) 03 Jul 2018 08:42:44
If he’s half as quick as linford then he should be ok.


9.) 03 Jul 2018 08:58:12
He's a friend of my brother, class act and believe he supported lfc growing up. I remember going to watch my brother play an under 15s Sunday league game and Issac turned up just to watch his mates play (this was when he was at the Chelsea academy) I spoke to him briefly, really down to earth and humble kid back then.


10.) 03 Jul 2018 23:20:13
I disagree Barnes 88, Linford could do 100m in 9.8s. Half as quick would be 100m in 17.6s. I reckon I could do that (on a slight downhill) 😄.


11.) 05 Jul 2018 03:35:05
Can you show your working out on that one Ron?


12.) 05 Jul 2018 09:42:57
😄

9.8x2-2 (for the start) 😛.


 

 

19 Jun 2018 16:42:51
Another day, another goalkeeper linked to us, it was reported lfc have done some background checks on Nick Pope, not sure what 'background checks' really means, has he got a police record or something? It's probably a load of piffle as per usual.

Red_1971

1.) 19 Jun 2018 20:00:54
Yes he needed a DBS check to make sure he isn’t a murderer or drug dealer! What a he hell ar background checks - our media really is a joke!


2.) 19 Jun 2018 22:16:10
Could background checks not be checking his injury record, and I could be wrong but I think one of the Ed’s mentioned at some point that Klopp likes to do personality checks before signing a player. I don’t know if it’s true or not but I tenner hearing a story about Klopp from his bvb days where he was tracking a player and went to watch him play, the player scored and Klopp decided to end his interest based on the players celebration as he appeared to be celebrating for himself and not the team.


3.) 20 Jun 2018 01:27:38
Remember what JK said about Fabinho upon signing? He talked about his personality and how he trained, how he'd fit in etc. These are perhaps the kind of checks we are discussing.


 

 

 

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17 Jul 2018 11:40:39
just popped on the banter site, is it National Servicd day or something?

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1.) 17 Jul 2018 12:00:20
Apologies mate! I started it 😂.


2.) 17 Jul 2018 12:37:08
In any event I would just want to say thanks and sincere appreciation to all those in our armed services along with those in the police ambulance and fire services and our great NHS.


3.) 17 Jul 2018 12:38:09
No probs MK, sometimes good to have a bit of diversity on here, it’s a break from all the same repeated questions.


4.) 17 Jul 2018 12:44:53
Agreed Tommy Gunn. Have a look for the video of a Croatian fire station who received an emergency call during one of their penalty shootouts. Didn't skip a beat and were out the station in under 30 seconds.


5.) 17 Jul 2018 12:48:29
It's nice to know we can occasionally take a break to talk about other subjects (loosely related) without the internet breaking apart.


6.) 17 Jul 2018 17:20:13
Thanks Tommy, I have served 14 years in the Armed forces and now 9 years in the police. It's nice we e public do support us with the circumstances we find ourselves in.

Baz.


 

 

15 Jul 2018 18:30:03
Well that's the World Cup done Ed's, let the silly season begin.

Red_1971

1.) 15 Jul 2018 23:26:39
My sister's brother's dog's owner said that apparently dybala is looking for a barber in liverpool.

{Ed033's Note - Is the dog's owner in Seville and called Figaro?


2.) 16 Jul 2018 06:52:19
Isn’t your sister’s brother also your brother?

Why bring your sister into it? 🤨.


 

 

28 Jun 2018 12:41:26
Any of the Ed's have any idea of the fee agreed between the clubs for Solanke?

Red_1971

{Ed002's Note - It is not a subject that is for discussion.}


1.) 28 Jun 2018 13:02:22
The fee has been agreed. that is all you need to know.


2.) 28 Jun 2018 12:55:18
Ok Ed002, had no idea, but thanks.


3.) 28 Jun 2018 13:08:01
You sure showed him Southern.


4.) 28 Jun 2018 13:12:35
yes I know, I have been told, but thanks for your time.


5.) 28 Jun 2018 13:38:49
Showed me what? Big Emre.


6.) 28 Jun 2018 13:55:09
Forget it Red. over the head.


 

 

22 Jun 2018 21:05:23
Waiting for the Shaqiri fans to pipe up.

Red_1971

1.) 22 Jun 2018 21:38:56
What are you waiting for? There’s a couple of posts below. Played quite well tonight.


2.) 22 Jun 2018 22:26:15
He is ok, can be lazy and I’ll disciplined which stop him become great.

He would be a bench warmer, cover and might play in league cup, not sure if Shaqiri wants that but there are too many who get the nod ahead of him for me including giving youngsters a chance.


 

 

18 Jun 2018 16:31:55
Right, going to ask a question to the Ed's, might end up embarrassing myself, but the mrs asks me the other night why is it a 23 man squad, when it's a 11 side game, why not a 22 man squad, to be honest i couldn't answer her. Any Ed's put me out my shame?

Red_1971

{Ed001's Note - so you can have a 3rd keeper as it is a specialised position. You can't just shuffle formation to cope, like you can if 2 left backs are out injured, for example.}


1.) 18 Jun 2018 16:37:12
Thanks for the reply Ed, I will attempt to explain this to her seeing as she did ask, but might be a struggle.

{Ed001's Note - as you didn't know either, it might not be the best time to take a dig at her football knowledge mate!}


2.) 18 Jun 2018 16:43:38
Ill blag that bit ed, she’ll never know.

{Ed001's Note - good thinking.}


 

 

 

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Mmmm! 🤨.

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13 Jul 2018 17:01:04
Those three letters SSN should tell you everything you need to know.

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12 Jul 2018 23:23:05
It’s certainly looking that way, like it or lump it.

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11 Jul 2018 23:44:16
Who is this David Maddock geezer, is he just another ITK who’s not ITK?

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04 Jul 2018 22:10:19
I’ve seen the same, bit sceptical about it though, not my choice to be fair, to lazy a player with the system we play, until i hear it from the ed’s Ill ignore it.

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18 Jul 2018 18:43:42
They know a darn sight more than you numbnuts.

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17 Jul 2018 22:42:57
Hope they sign him, might score another ghost goal.

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17 Jul 2018 21:47:38
cautiously optimistic, she quoted as well, I’ll just settle for that for now.

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17 Jul 2018 12:38:09
No probs MK, sometimes good to have a bit of diversity on here, it’s a break from all the same repeated questions.

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15 Jul 2018 19:46:43
Well that didn’t take long, did it.

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