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18 Jul 2018 13:25:21
ESPN reporting fee agreed for Allison.

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1.) 18 Jul 2018 14:51:52
Anyone worried about the medical?


2.) 18 Jul 2018 15:58:33
Worried about his first mistake.


3.) 18 Jul 2018 17:39:26
He'll drop the pen to sign the contract.


4.) 18 Jul 2018 20:04:30
Not worried about his medical at all, his injury record to date is
Muscle injury - June 2015, out for 15 days
And another muscle injury in may this year, out for 4 days only lol.


 

 

24 Jan 2018 18:33:20
Ed002 hope you are well,
I was reading the posts and we are talking about transfers between Madrid, Barca, top six etc. What will happen to transfers if the breakaway league happens?
Thanks
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed002's Note - This was discussed right at the start of the of the process and it is agreed that it will carry on as now - no different to buying a player from outside of UEFA (e.g. Brazil or China).}


1.) 24 Jan 2018 21:00:12
I try not to get carried away when I see Dramatic headlines and you guys have probably been through this so sorry to ask but if there any truth to the article that says we have agreed terms with lemar this evening?

I was superred81 but was finding it hard to login then went and miss spelled lemar, well my phone did. I think this deal would really make up for losing pc. Both for the team and the fans.

{Ed002's Note - The player or his club?


2.) 25 Jan 2018 09:33:28
With FIFA banning players from playing football in their games that move to the breakaway league, how will it affect players been transferred back into teams left within FIFA.

{Ed002's Note - The discusseion a couple of years ago led to the decision that it won't.}


3.) 25 Jan 2018 10:12:31
Ah OK thanks ed.


4.) 25 Jan 2018 15:13:05
Unfortunately it will be the death of football, watching the same teams play each week is not what football was meant to be.


 

 

07 Aug 2017 02:16:01
If Couthino goes, the sun will still rise. I'm interested in the Eds opinion on who will come in as I've read on here a striker. No one is bigger than the club.
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed001's Note - I do not know of any striker set to sign.}


1.) 07 Aug 2017 07:32:14
I think it's Barcelona just applying pressure and trying to unsettle Coutinho through the media so he demands a move. If we were to sell him I think I'd lose faith in our owners, especially if nobody exceptional replaces him. I'm still positive about it though. For now.


2.) 07 Aug 2017 07:45:22
Agree I'd be very disappointed with the club.
Klopp said at the end of last season we will be getting new players an now he's saying he's happy with his centre half's! Come on klopp you must be joking mate.


3.) 07 Aug 2017 07:54:31
I think am starting to sway towards eds1 feeling about klopp!


4.) 07 Aug 2017 08:16:55
Fowler, Klopp said he would bring in new players. He did not say which players they were or what positions he was looking to strengthen. If you thought he would bring in the players at the positions that you wanted (CB, for example) and for some reason he did not, you drew that conclusion on your own and nothing else so Klopp is not to blame for you drawing the wrong conclusions.


5.) 07 Aug 2017 08:39:03
I'm a big believer in the FSG model of buying quality young players and developing them into title challengers. Even in today's incredible spending I believe a model like this can compete. Key to it however is keeping the stars once they develop.

I ve been a big supporter of FSG to date but if we sell coutinho regardless of who we buy to replace I believe the model will be dead. I would still be very thankful they came along saved the club, built a bigger stadium and significantly improved the squad. It would be time to go in my opinion if coutinho is sold as they would have taken us as far as they could.

At the moment this is all intense speculation so my support continues until something actually happens.


6.) 07 Aug 2017 09:13:58
Dave that comment has to be contradiction at its finest. You're a big believer in the model but if 1 player is sold then the model is dead 🤔.


7.) 07 Aug 2017 09:29:38
Where's the contradiction? The model is based on developing and keeping the players. If one is sold then the model is not being followed, and is dead. Logic is obviously not a strong skill with some on here.


8.) 07 Aug 2017 09:38:09
Jayden, you are missing the point of Davey's post which I agree with. he is saying that we should be able to keep our best players after we have spent time and money in developing them. Right now, we developed Cou into the player he is today, period. He has also made the effort to improve his game as well and he was a massive player for us last season esp. at the end here where his goals and assists (playing at Stoke while severely ill) that helped get us over the line for CL. He is IMO, our best player due to the immense creative influence he has on our team. If we sell him now, we are a selling club and a feeder club for the RM's, Barca's and Bayern's to come in and take their pick and BOOM goes the model.

{Ed002's Note - It is because he wants to leave and has done for some time. You should understand that Coutinho has been looking for this move for more than a year.}


9.) 07 Aug 2017 09:40:06
How is it a contradiction. Im a believer in the model of buying young and building a quality team. That for me only works if you keep your best players regardless of what's offered.

Yes it is dead if we sell coutinho. Today's it's coutinho, next year it's Mane. Ultimately if good money is on the table we are sellers. Good business but it will not win you titles. Ever.

If Fsg don't sell on continue on the path I hope they are on, then it's all good in my opinion. We continue to build a grow.

I'm not contradicting at all. I'm laying out 2 different scenarios. One a recipe for success. The other a recipe for disaster. The next month will decide.

{Ed002's Note - Players are simply transient employees of the club. If you want them to stay loyal and not move on then look to more local and homegrown players.}


10.) 07 Aug 2017 10:03:43
Davey I've re-read your comment and your 2nd comment and I will happily suck back. I happily admit I misinterpreted your initial comment. My bad. Apologies.


11.) 07 Aug 2017 10:07:06
Funny how ed2 says couts been looking for this move for a year but when Keita wanted to leave his club to join us we are the big bad bogey men . This won't be posted as ed 2 doesn't like the truth.

{Ed002's Note - This is the typical coward that changes his name and writes trash like this. I have explained for more than a year about Coutinho and I have explained before about the illegal approaches Klopp has made in respect of Keita. It seems I might well be the only one who cares about the truth. You find it "funny" as you simply don't understand.}


12.) 07 Aug 2017 10:09:03
Spot on, Davey. If we allow Cou's shananigans to go and let him have his wish, then we are screwed as any other player will do the exact same thing to us and then it becomes untenable.


13.) 07 Aug 2017 10:21:06
I get what you are saying Ed but if Man United, Chelsea, Manchester City had liverpools position of a star player on a 5 year contract and reasonably happy they would not sell. Coutinho s head is turned I have no doubt but he can easily be brought back onside. He s lived in liverpool long enough a it cannot simply be the case Barcelona come calling and it's no longer a place of work he can accept.

Costa situation and suarez situations are different. They are untenable positions. This isn't that. The club has to show strength here.

I don't see real madrid selling Ronaldo during his unhappy times.

FSG are at a major crossroads and have a decision to make.

Ultimately coutinho is not the important part of this decision. Like you say he is a transient employee who will leave someday. However the decision to sell a top player under five year contract who has spent years at the club is the key to it. Do we as a club sell players in this position?

If we do this then there is no sustainable model in place to become genuine title challengers.

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has come calling because for more than a year Coutinho has been trying to find a way to make the move Davey.}


14.) 07 Aug 2017 10:45:49
Anyone remember when we sold the young, talented Michael Owen and then next year won the Champions League with possibly the worst squad ever to win the competition?

(Granted we did have Stevie G to thank for most of it. )


15.) 07 Aug 2017 11:06:23
Ed fair enough he's wanted, and being looking for the move for over a year! Was the signing of the contract just to guarantee getting the highest fee possible.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea why he signed the contract - probably pressured in to doing it. But the club has known all along about his discussions with the three international colleagues and his agent courting Barcelona.}


16.) 07 Aug 2017 11:08:49
Regardless of them looking for an out the board managed to tie him to a contract during that time. We have to think long term with the decision made on this one because the implications for liverpool a far far greater than selling a player.

Well I could argue the point all day but the kids are pestering me to take them to the park. Take care Ed.


17.) 07 Aug 2017 13:34:02
It has been known for a long time that Coutinho's dream club was Barcelona.

So now Barcelona have come calling, and he wants to go.

Exactly how is that FSG's fault?

Maybe FSG are also to blame for problems in the Middle East, not to mention North Korea?


 

 

30 May 2017 01:23:36
Ed's, with Tuchel in Dortmund possibly leaving does that rekindle interest in Pulisic from Klopp? And if you could indulge, what went wrong for Tuchel?

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{Ed001's Note - Tuchel was not in charge of transfers at Dortmund. This is not the really the place for the Tuchel thing, but he fell out with the people above him due to his inability to agree with them on almost anything and his constant tinkering.}


 

 

 

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01 Sep 2018 14:49:25
Hi all,
Not getting carried away but 12 points from 4 games and 1 goal conceded is pretty damn good. I agreed with what the studio analyst on NBC said in that the team might not be as entertaining as last season, but they are better. I feel that they would have lost or drawn the last two games in years past. This season seems different. Winning games with out performing at peak is key. Onward and upward.

PS, when they drop points for the first time, can we please refrain from saying they all suck and need to invest massive money, and Fekir got away etc.

Cheers
Matt in FL.

420FL

1.) 01 Sep 2018 16:59:09
I think we need to learn to treat victory and defeat as the same stranger, to paraphrase Rudyard Kipling.


2.) 01 Sep 2018 17:03:31
Let’s see us play a top 6 team, really need to get the performances moving!


 

 

31 Jul 2018 03:37:41
Ed002
Is haggling over fees done anymore?
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed002's Note - Yes, clubs negotiate fees all of the time as you would expect.}


1.) 31 Jul 2018 10:50:02
Hi ed002 in your knowledge do you have any interesting example where the initial price was set high for a player and the interested club haggled to get it decently low?
i tend to remember (from websites) Vincent Janssen was quoted 40 million and then joined Tottenham for less than half of that.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously there have been lots of examples of clubs, particularly in Spain and Portugal starting negotiations with stupid prices in mind. Initially Sporting priced Joao Mario out of a move and had to relent.}


2.) 31 Jul 2018 14:17:50
I think you’ll see a couple of examples of it if we sell markovich, Sturridge and Mignolet.


 

 

24 Jul 2018 03:51:24
Ed001,
Reading your list on all time greats, if you ever get a chance could you put together a team to objectively put together an all time club team tournament? Would be fascinated to read it. I would offer to help but my knowledge is limited to LFC and the premier league only since 2001.
The NFL does stuff like this on the network and it's fun to watch, and great to bullshit about with different fans.
What you think? Definitely maybe something for the future as I appreciate silly season, then the real games.
Regardless love you all
Cheers
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed001's Note - I am not 100% sure what you mean, though I have added it to the to do list anyway. Could you explain a little more?}


1.) 24 Jul 2018 04:13:52
Ed001,
Pick your best all time 11 for LFC, Utd, Madrid, Milan etc. Then seed them like a tournament and see who you all think would win. Very objective and very fun to discuss.

On a side note me and some work buddies did this with Sexiest Women of all time in an NCAA tournament bracket. We all put up our picks then defended them and came to a consensus on a winner, Marilyn Monroe.
Matt.

{Ed001's Note - ok I have you now. I will see what I can put together, when I get the chance.}


2.) 24 Jul 2018 09:04:42
Must. Resist! . Fekit, you 'came' to a consensus over the 'sexiest women' ahhhh.
Sorry. Sleep deprived and weirder than normal :D.


3.) 24 Jul 2018 13:08:07
I doff my cap, Philinho.

Chapeau, sir!


4.) 24 Jul 2018 13:49:38
Lmao Phil, funny man.

All time club convo sounds fun although clearly the liverpool fans are going to say they would win, the utd fans would say they would win and the city fans would say Liverpool would win.


5.) 25 Jul 2018 11:08:05
Haha thanks
Zed I held off for a few hours (giggity) waiting for you to post something similar but gave in xD.


 

 

23 Jul 2018 00:12:32
Was at today's game.
Keita is class, clearly class. Fabinho reminded me of Mascherano. Sturridge looks fit, hopes he stays that way. I don't remember the last time the squad was this deep or talented. And no matter what goes down this season, we will be in for a ride
Matt from FL.

420FL

1.) 23 Jul 2018 00:41:35
Hope you had a good time mate.


2.) 23 Jul 2018 03:34:41
Cheers bro, very much so. Next game has to be in the UK.


 

 

20 Jul 2018 01:44:59
Does anyone have any info if the team is going to be doing any events in Charlotte. I have my kids with me and it would be cool to have them meet the players. maybe I can meet Klopp as well😍 mancrush
Cheers.

420FL

1.) 20 Jul 2018 04:41:45
I m going too.


 

 

 

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29 May 2018 04:13:52
One other thing Ed002,
I want it to be known I have 2 kids of my own and one more coming. Believe me when I say I understand this is a game and hardly life and death. For anyone to wish Death or Cancer on someone is not humane. I read this site daily and never once have abused anyone.
Matt in FL.

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{Ed002's Note - Nobody has suggested it was you.}


 

 

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29 May 2018 02:56:03
Ed002,
When someone saysyou are a god you say yes. Otherwise a pissed off marshmallow shows up 😉.

420FL

{Ed002's Note - So where did I say that? All I get is fucking grief from brain dead vegetables. I get it - Macca rules the roost and I have never offered anything to the site at all - I am sick hearing it. You get you fucking way - Macca will be providing updates several times an hour from now on. You are done as far as I am concerned, I have been giving every bit of effort I can but get relentless abuse from the so called fans - no doubt those that made death threats to a player and we have already had two who don't see an issue with people hoping his kids get cancer. I don't see why we should bother with a Liverpool page any more.}


 

 

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26 Aug 2017 00:26:53
How old is Ox? Why don't people think he can improve. Why does everyone slag off any player before they kick a ball for the club, let alone get a season it dare I say 2.

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26 Aug 2017 00:23:38
Mr Dennis Klavan is a decent squad player. If you would have said Caulker.

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24 Aug 2017 02:42:04
Mignolet is not a problem. The team is going to concede and he is not at fault all the time. Our keepers as a group are strong, competition for the job should make them all better.
FFS support the players.
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed001's Note - Migs clearly is a problem, he has reverted back to being dodgy again. We are going to have to revisit that position before he starts costing us games again.}


 

 

 

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28 Sep 2018 18:58:16
Ed002,

Are you a dead head? I got the Jerry reference the other day, and was proud to say that the first live show I ever saw was the Grateful Dead in Pittsburgh in the Summer of 1995.One of Jerry Garcia last show. That was a life experience. Wish you well
Cheers
Matt in FL.

420FL

{Ed002's Note - I am indeed a Dead Head and I think I first saw the band at the Carousel Ballroom (Filmore West) in March 1971. I last saw them was in Seattle in June 1994 the day after the Nicole Brown Simpson murder. I did see Dead & Co in Mountain View last summer and we kept going to the NYE shows until 4 or 5 years ago, but my real fondness is for Country Joe and The Fish.}


 

 

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30 Aug 2018 04:02:25
Does anyone think that there is a team in the Champions League LFC can't beat. I don't think there is a single group that would be scary to get out of. I have not been this confident in LFC in over 10 years. Im also confident in the depth to challenge in all 4 competition. I fully expect to see silverware this season.

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21 Aug 2018 13:15:54
Nothing but the best for Salah and his family. There for sure are more important things in life and this is it. Speedy recovery and much love.
I hope the cretin who did this are caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent the law.

Matt in FL.

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24 Jul 2018 04:13:52
Ed001,
Pick your best all time 11 for LFC, Utd, Madrid, Milan etc. Then seed them like a tournament and see who you all think would win. Very objective and very fun to discuss.

On a side note me and some work buddies did this with Sexiest Women of all time in an NCAA tournament bracket. We all put up our picks then defended them and came to a consensus on a winner, Marilyn Monroe.
Matt.

420FL

{Ed001's Note - ok I have you now. I will see what I can put together, when I get the chance.}


 

 

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23 Jul 2018 03:34:41
Cheers bro, very much so. Next game has to be in the UK.

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