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24 Jan 2018 18:33:20
Ed002 hope you are well,
I was reading the posts and we are talking about transfers between Madrid, Barca, top six etc. What will happen to transfers if the breakaway league happens?
Matt in FL.


{Ed002's Note - This was discussed right at the start of the of the process and it is agreed that it will carry on as now - no different to buying a player from outside of UEFA (e.g. Brazil or China).}

1.) 24 Jan 2018 21:00:12
I try not to get carried away when I see Dramatic headlines and you guys have probably been through this so sorry to ask but if there any truth to the article that says we have agreed terms with lemar this evening?

I was superred81 but was finding it hard to login then went and miss spelled lemar, well my phone did. I think this deal would really make up for losing pc. Both for the team and the fans.

{Ed002's Note - The player or his club?

2.) 25 Jan 2018 09:33:28
With FIFA banning players from playing football in their games that move to the breakaway league, how will it affect players been transferred back into teams left within FIFA.

{Ed002's Note - The discusseion a couple of years ago led to the decision that it won't.}

3.) 25 Jan 2018 10:12:31
Ah OK thanks ed.

4.) 25 Jan 2018 15:13:05
Unfortunately it will be the death of football, watching the same teams play each week is not what football was meant to be.



07 Aug 2017 02:16:01
If Couthino goes, the sun will still rise. I'm interested in the Eds opinion on who will come in as I've read on here a striker. No one is bigger than the club.
Matt in FL.


{Ed001's Note - I do not know of any striker set to sign.}

1.) 07 Aug 2017 07:32:14
I think it's Barcelona just applying pressure and trying to unsettle Coutinho through the media so he demands a move. If we were to sell him I think I'd lose faith in our owners, especially if nobody exceptional replaces him. I'm still positive about it though. For now.

2.) 07 Aug 2017 07:45:22
Agree I'd be very disappointed with the club.
Klopp said at the end of last season we will be getting new players an now he's saying he's happy with his centre half's! Come on klopp you must be joking mate.

3.) 07 Aug 2017 07:54:31
I think am starting to sway towards eds1 feeling about klopp!

4.) 07 Aug 2017 08:16:55
Fowler, Klopp said he would bring in new players. He did not say which players they were or what positions he was looking to strengthen. If you thought he would bring in the players at the positions that you wanted (CB, for example) and for some reason he did not, you drew that conclusion on your own and nothing else so Klopp is not to blame for you drawing the wrong conclusions.

5.) 07 Aug 2017 08:39:03
I'm a big believer in the FSG model of buying quality young players and developing them into title challengers. Even in today's incredible spending I believe a model like this can compete. Key to it however is keeping the stars once they develop.

I ve been a big supporter of FSG to date but if we sell coutinho regardless of who we buy to replace I believe the model will be dead. I would still be very thankful they came along saved the club, built a bigger stadium and significantly improved the squad. It would be time to go in my opinion if coutinho is sold as they would have taken us as far as they could.

At the moment this is all intense speculation so my support continues until something actually happens.

6.) 07 Aug 2017 09:13:58
Dave that comment has to be contradiction at its finest. You're a big believer in the model but if 1 player is sold then the model is dead 🤔.

7.) 07 Aug 2017 09:29:38
Where's the contradiction? The model is based on developing and keeping the players. If one is sold then the model is not being followed, and is dead. Logic is obviously not a strong skill with some on here.

8.) 07 Aug 2017 09:38:09
Jayden, you are missing the point of Davey's post which I agree with. he is saying that we should be able to keep our best players after we have spent time and money in developing them. Right now, we developed Cou into the player he is today, period. He has also made the effort to improve his game as well and he was a massive player for us last season esp. at the end here where his goals and assists (playing at Stoke while severely ill) that helped get us over the line for CL. He is IMO, our best player due to the immense creative influence he has on our team. If we sell him now, we are a selling club and a feeder club for the RM's, Barca's and Bayern's to come in and take their pick and BOOM goes the model.

{Ed002's Note - It is because he wants to leave and has done for some time. You should understand that Coutinho has been looking for this move for more than a year.}

9.) 07 Aug 2017 09:40:06
How is it a contradiction. Im a believer in the model of buying young and building a quality team. That for me only works if you keep your best players regardless of what's offered.

Yes it is dead if we sell coutinho. Today's it's coutinho, next year it's Mane. Ultimately if good money is on the table we are sellers. Good business but it will not win you titles. Ever.

If Fsg don't sell on continue on the path I hope they are on, then it's all good in my opinion. We continue to build a grow.

I'm not contradicting at all. I'm laying out 2 different scenarios. One a recipe for success. The other a recipe for disaster. The next month will decide.

{Ed002's Note - Players are simply transient employees of the club. If you want them to stay loyal and not move on then look to more local and homegrown players.}

10.) 07 Aug 2017 10:03:43
Davey I've re-read your comment and your 2nd comment and I will happily suck back. I happily admit I misinterpreted your initial comment. My bad. Apologies.

11.) 07 Aug 2017 10:07:06
Funny how ed2 says couts been looking for this move for a year but when Keita wanted to leave his club to join us we are the big bad bogey men . This won't be posted as ed 2 doesn't like the truth.

{Ed002's Note - This is the typical coward that changes his name and writes trash like this. I have explained for more than a year about Coutinho and I have explained before about the illegal approaches Klopp has made in respect of Keita. It seems I might well be the only one who cares about the truth. You find it "funny" as you simply don't understand.}

12.) 07 Aug 2017 10:09:03
Spot on, Davey. If we allow Cou's shananigans to go and let him have his wish, then we are screwed as any other player will do the exact same thing to us and then it becomes untenable.

13.) 07 Aug 2017 10:21:06
I get what you are saying Ed but if Man United, Chelsea, Manchester City had liverpools position of a star player on a 5 year contract and reasonably happy they would not sell. Coutinho s head is turned I have no doubt but he can easily be brought back onside. He s lived in liverpool long enough a it cannot simply be the case Barcelona come calling and it's no longer a place of work he can accept.

Costa situation and suarez situations are different. They are untenable positions. This isn't that. The club has to show strength here.

I don't see real madrid selling Ronaldo during his unhappy times.

FSG are at a major crossroads and have a decision to make.

Ultimately coutinho is not the important part of this decision. Like you say he is a transient employee who will leave someday. However the decision to sell a top player under five year contract who has spent years at the club is the key to it. Do we as a club sell players in this position?

If we do this then there is no sustainable model in place to become genuine title challengers.

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has come calling because for more than a year Coutinho has been trying to find a way to make the move Davey.}

14.) 07 Aug 2017 10:45:49
Anyone remember when we sold the young, talented Michael Owen and then next year won the Champions League with possibly the worst squad ever to win the competition?

(Granted we did have Stevie G to thank for most of it. )

15.) 07 Aug 2017 11:06:23
Ed fair enough he's wanted, and being looking for the move for over a year! Was the signing of the contract just to guarantee getting the highest fee possible.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea why he signed the contract - probably pressured in to doing it. But the club has known all along about his discussions with the three international colleagues and his agent courting Barcelona.}

16.) 07 Aug 2017 11:08:49
Regardless of them looking for an out the board managed to tie him to a contract during that time. We have to think long term with the decision made on this one because the implications for liverpool a far far greater than selling a player.

Well I could argue the point all day but the kids are pestering me to take them to the park. Take care Ed.

17.) 07 Aug 2017 13:34:02
It has been known for a long time that Coutinho's dream club was Barcelona.

So now Barcelona have come calling, and he wants to go.

Exactly how is that FSG's fault?

Maybe FSG are also to blame for problems in the Middle East, not to mention North Korea?



30 May 2017 01:23:36
Ed's, with Tuchel in Dortmund possibly leaving does that rekindle interest in Pulisic from Klopp? And if you could indulge, what went wrong for Tuchel?


{Ed001's Note - Tuchel was not in charge of transfers at Dortmund. This is not the really the place for the Tuchel thing, but he fell out with the people above him due to his inability to agree with them on almost anything and his constant tinkering.}




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05 Jun 2018 03:55:44
Hello all
I've got a point and a question. My point is I have had a concussion from Sport before, American Football. Like every other player when the question of are you hurt or injured was asked, the answer was hurt. I wanted to keep playing. That was a high school game, not the biggest game of my career. Cut Karius some slack, life goes on.
Now my question is open, if Allison or Oblak aren't available, whom would people go after? But land was highly regarded a while ago. What I really want to know is if a world-class keeper is unavailable, is it worth bringing someone else in?
Cheers Matt in FL.


1.) 05 Jun 2018 05:57:47
We are going to end up with Butland!

2.) 05 Jun 2018 06:29:37
We have two senior goalkeepers that have both proven that they aren't good enough in my personal opinion, in Mignolet and Karius. I would go out of my way to sign Alisson, I really think he is the complete package and would suit our style perfectly. I really hope if Klopp learnt something of the goalkeeper situation after our UCL final loss and season, it is to go all out to bring Alisson to the club. I honestly believe with the addition of Alisson, to the ever impending signing of Fekir, along with Fabinho and Keita, we are really looking at something very special and to be serious contenders for the PL next season. Wouldn't say no to Oblak though if Alisson won't come! Exciting times ahead reds!

3.) 05 Jun 2018 06:47:06
TBH, a goalkeeper has always been a 4th or 5th priority this summer over adding depth to midfield, finding a Coutinho replacement and a player able to cover and rotate with the wider players, Salah and Mane. Im not at all bothered if Karius remains as the number 1 to start the season with Butland coming to challenge him. More than comfortable with that option.

4.) 05 Jun 2018 07:58:20
Preferrably Alisson as he would fit us more.

5.) 05 Jun 2018 08:46:33
32 teams plays in CL and 48 teams plays in EL every year! It’s not like there are no GK’s on the planet for the club to look out for! Ederson was an unknown entity till city signed him as does the lad at new castle. Butland should be the last one in the list!

6.) 05 Jun 2018 12:53:14
Harry you can keep naming keepers but they have all made mistakes that i can recall in the last 12 months. Liverpool keepers aren't allowed to be human and make mistakes. They aren't even allowed to kop a concussive blow to the head it seems without ridicule.

7.) 05 Jun 2018 13:48:31
Did you see De Gea's howler against Switzerland? If he did that in a Liverpool shirt he'd be hung from the gates.



25 May 2018 02:43:12
Wanted to share with you all, I just found out my better half is expecting our Third LFC supporter.
The only way my life could get better is if we are up 4 nil by the 33 minute Saturday.
Wish me and the team best of luck.
Looking forward to Saturday
Matt in FL.


1.) 25 May 2018 06:42:02
Congrats mate!

2.) 25 May 2018 06:58:37
Fantastic news mate.

3.) 25 May 2018 08:02:30
You should've said mate. I've got one for sale. 17 months old. Hobbies include staining carpets with black currant, ripping wallpaper off of his bedroom wall, throwing his mum's £500 Samsung down the toilet, ripping apart a wicker washing basket, breaking his DVD player by ripping it out from under the TV by the cable, and rubbing peanut butter into his parents fresh linen - in the last week.

I'd have taken a Greggs Sausage roll to be honest.

4.) 25 May 2018 09:05:09
Huge congratulations to you and your family mate, great news :) .

{Ed001's Note - agreed, congrats 420, hope it all goes smoothly for your missus over the next few months.}

5.) 25 May 2018 09:10:14
Congrats mate and heres to hoping its one of those games when we are 3 or 4 nil up by half time otherwise I my heart might not hold out.

6.) 25 May 2018 09:13:04
Oh MK, very funny. Don't throw in the towel just yet, our 25 year old has just paid off the last 5 years of our mortgage. They CAN pay for themselves in the long run 😁.

7.) 25 May 2018 09:44:12
Congrats mate, all the best for the months ahead.

8.) 25 May 2018 09:57:57
I jest of course. Congratulations 420! Hope it all goes smoothly.

Burkey, that is very impressive mate. I've noted it down and if my lad doesn't do the same by 25, I'll show him your post and tell him to get his head in the game!

9.) 25 May 2018 10:04:25
Nice one 420 good luck mate

Mk quality post mate but I had to check you were talking about a toddler and not a puppy with the damage caused. the kid is destroying you! 😂.

10.) 25 May 2018 11:50:04
It is unbelievable WelshRed. He is like a 2ft tornado.



16 May 2018 02:07:28
Ed025 if you are about, Been on the Everton page and a lot of Blues want Rafa. Im curious of your opinion, and how you feel about his connection with LFC.
I for one think he is a fantastic manager, but at the same time can't see him going to Everton simply as he loves LFC.
And look I am really not trying to be a smartass but is Everton that much better than the Toon? I honestly do not know

PS. Nice to have MK about again
Cheers all
Matt in FL.


{Ed025's Note - the clubs are very similar i would say matt, as a manager i think rafa is very good but cant see him at everton after his jibe about them being a "small club" and his links with liverpool mate..

1.) 16 May 2018 06:20:24
Marco Silva to Everton
Artefacts would have been a decent choice but he is Arsenal bound by the looks of things.
No way is Rafa going to end up at Everton!

2.) 16 May 2018 07:39:02
Artefacts would probably manage a more modern brand of football than Big Sam.

3.) 16 May 2018 08:24:01
what artefacts are we talking about? :P.

4.) 16 May 2018 08:56:05
Glad you think so mate. I've always wanted to know where my one thumbs up comes from 😉

Just needed a week away to focus on the more important things in life mate. I was still lurking sporadically!

5.) 16 May 2018 09:31:39
Would kill me seeing Rafa at United or Everton.

6.) 16 May 2018 09:45:17
Artefacts? Someone been watching Warehouse 13?



13 May 2018 01:18:16
Hello all,
I am happy to say that I got tickets to the preseason against BVB in Charlotte. Any fellow reds going to be there and wanna grab a pint?
As for tomorrow I feel great about top 4.and am quietly optimistic for Kiev. Such a great team to support this club.
Cheers all.

Special shout to Ed 002, you are my second man crush
Matt in FL.


1.) 13 May 2018 06:59:57
Is your first man crush Fernando Torres? I expect he’s everyone’s first man crush. Cos he looks like a girl.



06 May 2018 01:37:05
Can you not insult all Americans. Hicks and Gillette were asses. The current American owners are not

Also goes to show that there are more important things than sport, God bless Sir Alex.
Matt in FL.


{Ed0333's Note - hey am I missing something?




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29 May 2018 04:13:52
One other thing Ed002,
I want it to be known I have 2 kids of my own and one more coming. Believe me when I say I understand this is a game and hardly life and death. For anyone to wish Death or Cancer on someone is not humane. I read this site daily and never once have abused anyone.
Matt in FL.


{Ed002's Note - Nobody has suggested it was you.}



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29 May 2018 02:56:03
When someone saysyou are a god you say yes. Otherwise a pissed off marshmallow shows up 😉.


{Ed002's Note - So where did I say that? All I get is fucking grief from brain dead vegetables. I get it - Macca rules the roost and I have never offered anything to the site at all - I am sick hearing it. You get you fucking way - Macca will be providing updates several times an hour from now on. You are done as far as I am concerned, I have been giving every bit of effort I can but get relentless abuse from the so called fans - no doubt those that made death threats to a player and we have already had two who don't see an issue with people hoping his kids get cancer. I don't see why we should bother with a Liverpool page any more.}



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26 Aug 2017 00:26:53
How old is Ox? Why don't people think he can improve. Why does everyone slag off any player before they kick a ball for the club, let alone get a season it dare I say 2.




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26 Aug 2017 00:23:38
Mr Dennis Klavan is a decent squad player. If you would have said Caulker.




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24 Aug 2017 02:42:04
Mignolet is not a problem. The team is going to concede and he is not at fault all the time. Our keepers as a group are strong, competition for the job should make them all better.
FFS support the players.
Matt in FL.


{Ed001's Note - Migs clearly is a problem, he has reverted back to being dodgy again. We are going to have to revisit that position before he starts costing us games again.}




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25 May 2018 22:55:27
Take a bow sir
Matt in FL.




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23 May 2018 03:41:09
Greater Orlando area gents. First rounds on me.




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21 May 2018 02:30:26
Ed025, 001, 002 and old school Blair Maybe. Or anyone wearing the shirt. Come on Saturday.
Matt in FL

I'd love to meet any of you personally.




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19 May 2018 16:54:04
Good for him being in to BBC.




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14 May 2018 00:23:10
True legend mate. Glad to hear from you.