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03 May 2018 22:35:34
Haven’t been on for a few months I just wanted to come back on to say a big 🖕😊 to THE resident moaner ( it mentioning names but very much doubt i’d Have to! ) who complained complained and complained some more about us signing Andy Robertson, moan moan moan and in half of his moans called him Robinson! I just hope you’ve that just cos were not signing Marcelo’s doesn’t mean we’re not getting hard work and top top quality! Bring on Kiev! Nice one Ed’s as always.

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{Ed0333's Note - Andy Robertson is not top top quality. Why are people not getting this. Just because he was cheap and had a few decent games doesn’t make him Roberto friggin Carlos.


1.) 03 May 2018 22:50:32
Why are people not getting what Ed033?

That we’ve got the best left back in the premier league? Tell me I’m wrong 🙃🔴

I wouldn’t swap Robbo for any other LB in the prem, and I won’t be convinced otherwise 😋.

{Ed0333's Note - I give up lol. I’m not a believer yet Navy. You know what mate give me a 1500 word essay on your hypothesis that Robbo is the best left back in the country. Oh and I’m gonna show your work to Eds 001 and he’ll want lots of pictures with lithe muscular young men in tight sportswear as supplementary evidence. FYI Ed’s 001 has penchant for Ryan Bertrand so deffo include pics of him. Your welcome.


2.) 03 May 2018 22:53:42
Robbo is a quality player and the best left back we had in many a year. can only really think of alaba who has been a better left back since crimbo.

{Ed0333's Note - omg


3.) 03 May 2018 23:00:59
Everyone was on about how good Flanno was also, same thing all over again.


4.) 03 May 2018 23:34:56
No it's not the same as flanno. Robbo is genuine quality. flanno we loved cos he was a local lad. im stunned some people can't see how good robbo is.


5.) 03 May 2018 23:38:19
It isn't the same thing at all. This lad came through the very bottom and hasn't put a foot wrong in the Champions League. Come on, give the lad credit. He intercepts, reads the game well, gets back in to position, is hard to get past because he can turn quickly and is pacey. Can also get forward and back quickly and plays intelligent passes. These are FACTS so, I would say he may not be everyones cup of tea but he does what it says on the tin and many past players love him. I'm proud to have him.


6.) 03 May 2018 23:50:32
I don't think I've seen a "team of the year" with anyone else at left back!


7.) 03 May 2018 23:52:38
Jon Flanagan didn’t play for almost 2 years because of injuries, it’s not the same thing at all!


8.) 04 May 2018 00:41:56
Here we go with stoupid posts where posters start to take on the opinions of an ed out of the blue. Robertson has done his job: (a) Defensively - you don't see teams targeting him as a weak link as they used to with Moreno. Can someone name me a single goal that has come from a Robertson mistake? (b) Attacking- a job of the 'modern' day full-back (should he have a double wage for doing two jobs?! ) he has started to put in some wicked balls and definitely set up one tap-in for Firmino that I can remember with a pinpoint pass (c) Did you see him dribble past four players against Roma? Who else does that? The 'world-class' left backs you are probably wetting your pants over (d) Workrate, I know it's a given, but it isn't given with all left backs across the league, but it is with Andy (e) Passion. Can't be bought with a bonus payment. It's in your heart. And Andy clearly wants to give 100% for LFC every game (f) I wish I could add a goal to this list- he's come close once or twice but had his boots on the wrong feet (g) Awwwwwwwwwwwwww look at his face!

He's not the finished article, but he's getting better. Who knows where it'll end? Ed033 what was Roberto friggin Carlos like when he was Andy's age?

Give him a chance. I bet he'll prove you wrong.
Love from, Andy's Mum x.

{Ed0333's Note - Hello Andy’s mum, nice to hear from you. Roberto ‘friggin’ Carlos was playing for Real Madrid when he was Andy Robertson’s age. Love you. Ed’s 333.


9.) 04 May 2018 00:58:38
I love his drive, stamina and work ethic. I think he’s great and perfect for klopp’s system. Please name a better left back because at the moment there’s no one who is head and shoulders above him.
Also, is he our fastest player?
His acceleration is unbelievable.
I absolutely love him and considering his price he is k my behind Salah as the buy of the season The premiership.

{Ed0333's Note - omg he’s not great ffs.


10.) 04 May 2018 04:37:45
Are we all trolling Ed0333? Robbo is good at what he has to do but he’s by not great yet. He does his job and has been very reliable. He not the best in the PL - Marcos Alonso is a fair bit better- but he’s in the discussion now for top left backs in the league which is much better than what we’re accustomed to seeing (Konchesky) .

{Ed001's Note - it does feel like you are all trolling just because the Premier League has crap left backs does not make him a great player. He is not a bad player, but being better than Marcus 'spends more time at centre forward than on the left' Alonso or Ben 'embarrassingly average' Davies or Ryan 'ridiculously overrated' Bertrand does not make a player great. He has a long, long way to reach the level of greatness and singing his praises when he is nowhere near is not going to help him achieve it. Great story he has, but there is still a lot left for the lad to learn to become top class.}


11.) 04 May 2018 05:40:51
You can’t win on this site sometimes, call a player crap- get called out for slagging off our players. Call a player good- get told he’s actually not very good. If we were all calling Robbo crap would the Ed’s be happier?

{Ed001's Note - would be a lot happier if we didn't have people like you whining because an ed gave an opinion which differs from all the hyperbole the rest were using.}


12.) 04 May 2018 06:45:55
Robbo is a decent player with great determination and tenacity. I agree he’s one of the best left backs in the league but that probably says more about the standards of left backs in the Prem. I certainly see him being our left back going forward as I now see other positions being more important for reinforcements but he isn’t as good as some fans think but his style and attitude is very fan friendly. The thing is he’s getting better and I hope he can keep improving to become a top top left back.
Comparing him to Marcelo, yes Marcelo makes mistakes and positionally can be caught out but he’s the best left back going forward in the world and has real quality and contributes loads to Madrid going forward. A lot are seeing him as the weak link for us to win the final but he could be the opposite and their match winner.


13.) 04 May 2018 07:45:16
I think the reason that we’re all so pleased with Robbo is because we were so poor at left back for so long. We’ve been crying out for someone who will do the simple things right and not expose our (in the past) vulnerable cbs. When Klopp identified and then bought Robbo, many were very underwhelmed but he has performed so much better than we’d have expected. (Best since JAR, who wasn’t a top quality left back either) . Left back no longer looks like a weak position for us. In that respect he’s been a great signing, has had a great start to his liverpool career and shows the potential to improve further. Couple that with his humble personality and work rate and it’s easy for me to see why some are going over the top with praise for him. He did just help us reach Kiev!


14.) 04 May 2018 08:00:41
Marcelo makes mistakes and positionally can be caught out but he’s the best left back going forward in the world. but he is a left back not a winger and defensively he is really poor don't think its a prem thing think its a football thing full backs can't defend anymore. Moreno is a modern day full back just really poor at defending and not great going forward but most can only do one or the other. what's good about Robbo is he is good at both but not world class at both. but he is getting better all the time and he is the best left back we have had for a long time hope he just keeps getting better.


15.) 04 May 2018 08:04:53
Whether he’s great, good or average player, what he has been is a constantly good performer this season probably only behind Salah, Firmino and also Milner (who I would also say is no longer a great player but steady and reliable) but Milner along with Robertson is playing above my estimations. The in thing that has been noticeable is he was sorely missed when rested against West Brom and Stoke, he is much better than any other option we have for that position and has proved to be a cheap buy. But out there now who are the great left backs in world football, the problem is now being a full back seems to have very little to do with if you can defend or not.


16.) 04 May 2018 08:13:24
And on that note. Robertson to score the champions league final winning goal or provide the assist for it! The lads improved, greatly. Certainly made me eat my words as i like many im sure were not overjoyed with his signing. Most in form left back in the league at this time. Most certainly. Best left back in the league this season. maybe. But for me to be on a top top class level he will need to deliver more assists and more dangerous crosses on a game by game basis where teams are making tactical changes to try and nullify him. All in all I'm pleased we have him and long may his form continue.


17.) 04 May 2018 09:13:54
Why do liverpool fans over hype any player that's had more than 5 good games a season. The feller is doing well but not great.
Over the length of his contract I would believe we will be saying he's great but just not at this stage yet.


18.) 04 May 2018 09:31:40
Do an a Alan Kennedy you mean? Wouldn't that be poetic!

He's good but that's all. He wouldn't get into my top three left backs from Liverpool gone past ( Alan Kennedy, John Arne Riise and joey jones spring to mind without thinking too much about it), but he's got a great attitude and appreciates what it all means. He's a liverpool favourite for That reason alone

Hopefully he will be a regular for many a season but let's be rational about it. Lots to learn but good first impressions.


19.) 04 May 2018 09:39:33
Right now there are 4 players in the Liverpool team that I wouldn't swap for anyone else in the world of football. Robertson is one of them. Firmino Salah and Van Dijk being the other 3. That's how much I personally rate the guy! Our recent Transfers have been superb. Long may it continue!


20.) 04 May 2018 09:47:51
I wasnt comparing Robbo with Marcelo, I meant that just because we didn’t go after names like Marcelo that we’re not getting top quality from hard work, the lad is on fire, what a story an all., him and Trent are keeping “big names” out of the team, and for good reason. anyway my post didn’t look that bad before pressed post lol. ✌️😊.


21.) 04 May 2018 10:03:15
It was a fair post and your opinion.


22.) 04 May 2018 11:32:32
Look let’s just all agree we haven’t seen a better left back at Liverpool since JA Risse and we all bloody love the lad to bits 😋

Ed333 you know I was only being playful with my comment. But Ed001 you are looking at it too pessimisticly my friend. I know the standard of LBs in the premier isn’t the best we’ve ever seen but they’re still top players mate and do good jobs for their teams. just Robbo is much better than them that’s all 😬😋🔴.


23.) 04 May 2018 19:53:42
Personally think he's the best left back in the league. He's been better than the Eds are making out and can improve significantly but let's give the lad his due.


24.) 04 May 2018 13:55:05
Robertson is a good player. Not "great" yet and he may not get there. I think he gets all the hype cos he's from the UK and no-one can remember the last time Liverpool had a LB.
However, I don't know if there's any LB in the league that I'll take ahead of him. I like my defenders to defend first and Robertson does that well.
He's not a top-tier full back yet in the mold of Lahm or Zanetti, but how many have their been in the last few years.


 

 

24 Jun 2015 16:27:57
Ed001, alright mate , would I be right in thinkin that Firmino was one of the lads you mentioned a year or so ago when you mentioned a few South American lads were bein seriously looked at by our scouts?, there wasn't much said after because of part timers on here givin yous abuse because the names were unknowns and not the likes neymar, cavani etc, etc,
Cheers for all the effort you lot make for us. For little reward an all il add.

Red pasty

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate it was. Well remembered, I think Ed002 did give out more details as well, and even mentioned him again recently as a possible that we may revive interest in.}


1.) 24 Jun 2015 20:50:33
Actually, NO. Ed002 was talking about Canigga looking at a number of players PLAYING in South America NOT LAST YEAR, but the year before last.


 

 

 

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03 May 2018 22:35:34
Haven’t been on for a few months I just wanted to come back on to say a big 🖕😊 to THE resident moaner ( it mentioning names but very much doubt i’d Have to! ) who complained complained and complained some more about us signing Andy Robertson, moan moan moan and in half of his moans called him Robinson! I just hope you’ve that just cos were not signing Marcelo’s doesn’t mean we’re not getting hard work and top top quality! Bring on Kiev! Nice one Ed’s as always.

Red-pasty

{Ed0333's Note - Andy Robertson is not top top quality. Why are people not getting this. Just because he was cheap and had a few decent games doesn’t make him Roberto friggin Carlos.


1.) 03 May 2018 22:47:52
I can’t think of a better left back in the premier league than Robertson. He’s far better than just decent.

{Ed0333's Note - or maybe the best of a very bad bunch? So he’s positionally sound? Defensively and offensively stellar in your opinion MrShankley?


2.) 03 May 2018 22:53:58
I wouldn't call him top top quality, yet. I believe he can be, he does need more work but he's a very good defender. I admire the lads work rate, I think he'll be with us for years to come and really shine for us. It's his first season and overall he's done really well. To go from where he was to top level with us is incredible really. I made a post about it earlier so I don't want to go and repeat myself but the lad deserves respect for how far he's come. He's shocked many, including probably himself! onwards and upwards for the lad, I think he will just improve and improve.


3.) 03 May 2018 22:54:50
You’re wrong ed. He has been top draw. People link our good defensive record in the back 9 due to vvd in January. Yet it’s a culmination of Robbo vvd and Karius, replacing their counterparts.

Robbo has been brilliant, defensively, offensively, in concentration and in hard work. He has fantastic ball control and reads the game very well.

He’s a left sided Steve Finnan. If his name was Roberto, and not Robertson, you’d probably think he was top class.

{Ed0333's Note - i just don’t think he’s top draw. I disagree that he reads the game very well and that his concentration is brilliant, and I take umbrage at the fact you think that if he was Brazilian I would be lauding him.


4.) 03 May 2018 22:54:56
The best of a very bad bunch? Lol we’re talking about the premier league Ed. Not some Sunday league.

Not the best LBs we’ve ever seen, sure. Then again defenders these days in general aren’t the best IMO.

Robbo is currently the best in the premier league on current form and you’d be hard pressed to find many that would disagree with that on any fan page.


5.) 03 May 2018 23:19:05
I wonder how closely you actually watch him if you don’t think he reads the game well. His head is constantly like Paul Scholes was. 1 2 3 look around. 1 2 3 look around. Partly because he may be worried to get caught out, subconsciously, but what that allows is for him to know where he is passing / running before he gets the ball.

I blanket those who can not see Robertson’s ability, into those who use his nationality and name to him detriment. Take it as you like.

I urge you to watch Robbo very closely and come back to me after the Chelsea game.

{Ed0333's Note - so what your saying is because Robertson is Scottish I’m discriminating against him and in essence your calling me a racist? Let me tell you I grew up in an era of world class Scottish Liverpool players I.e Souness, Hansen, Nicol, Dalglish. That’s what you call ability. I watch Robbo closely every week because I get to watch every Liverpool game here in the states and I’m telling you he is found wanting most games. Just because he cost 8 million, has a few decent games, looks around, does another 123 look around doesn’t make him a world beater. I’m not hating on Robertson I respect his trajectory in football but I don’t think he’s as good as most say. Maybe I’m wrong or maybe I’m not but I keep saying if he’s here in two years time as no 1 left back I’ll admit I was wrong and quite happily eat humble pie.


6.) 03 May 2018 23:38:57
robertson is growing in confidence, taking more chances with his runs. He seems to be improving game by game by showing us qualities we didn't even know he had. He seems to have earned all his teammates trust. Im always optimistic when we sign new players so robertson has played exactly like I imagined he would but now he's starting to surpass expectations.


7.) 03 May 2018 23:57:53
Well hmm

Arsenal Kolasinac, Monreal
Man u Shaw, Darmian, Young, Rojo
Man City Mendy, Danilo
Chelsea Azpilicueta, M. Alonso
Tottenham Rose, B. Davies
Liverpool Robertson, Moreno

Robertson is in the top 2 best left back in the premier league.

Robertson, M. Alonso.

{Ed0333's Note - I’d take at least 3 of those left backs over Robertson.


8.) 04 May 2018 00:01:02
My worry is him being compared to Roberto Carlos, who wasn’t a brilliant defender in my opinion, just great going forward.

{Ed0333's Note - good enough to play for Brazil for years tho


9.) 04 May 2018 00:20:27
I agree with Ed, his commitment and work rate is fantastic however he is clueless positionally and I blame Klopp for the fact that both he and TAA are constantly being caught out wrong side, are both bombing forward at the same time instead of one tucking in when the other one goes forward and that Lovren and VVD and the midfield are leaving them to get on with it and not helping them out.
Last night Klopp, Henderson, Milner, Lovren all should have stepped in to ensure TAA had help v El Sharaway from somewhere but it never happened at all.
At one point after about 15 mins VVD and Lovren actually switched so that VVD could provide more cover for TAA however it reverted back to Lovren right and VVD left very soon after.
Trent is 19 and not sure how old Robbo is but they need coaching and the senior players to advise them, Milner, VVD and Henderson are all letting them down if that’s not happening on the field and Klopp badly off it on the training ground, the same mistakes are being repeated by TAA, Lovren and Robbo week after week. Madrid will expose that with Benzema and Ronaldo in the air and diagonal balls to create a 1v1 at the back post.
VVD gets praise for being a leader but he is selfish and tries to cover his own arse, he is often static and watches balls go over his head to leave fullback isolated at the back post. I for one don’t buy into his stabilising the ship given v City (league at home), Roma x2, West Brom we have shipped 9 goals in the last 15 minutes of each game combined.
We’ve done brilliantly but even if we go 4-0 v Madrid it’s not over as we can leek 3 or 4 goals in very short spells and often late on in games when concentration is lost and defenders (full backs) continue to bomb on when they should sit tight coz we are winning and the forwards are good enough to spend the last 10 minutes attacking on the break.
I’ve enjoyed the ride, delighted we are the last English club standing (especially as the media’s golden boys and Guardiola have been dispatched) but we needed the ageing Bayern squad to prevail, Madrid are too mobile for our midfield and defence plus they have the experience to draw on, if we win this I genuinely think it will be the greatest of the 6 and that’s saying something when you consider ‘81, ‘84 and ‘05’s opposition.
I’ll be delighted to be proven wrong by the way. 🤞🏻.


10.) 04 May 2018 02:16:39
i don't think there is a top top quality fullback in the premier league right now, both left and right side.

TAA and robertson have done well though.


11.) 04 May 2018 03:37:24
Are people seriously comparing andy robertson with roberto carlos? Andy has had some good games this season, there is no doubt about that but comparing him to carlos is just plain ridiculous. If robertson turns out to be half as good as roberto carlos then i'd be a happy man.

Blair.


12.) 04 May 2018 05:33:05
Why does Robertson have to be the best ever or rubbish. maybe he’s just a really solid and likeable player who’s improved a position that’s been a problem of ours for years?

I’m really pleased he’s in the side and made up from him given where he was a few years ago, but I think even he would laugh with comparisons between him and legends like Roberto Carlos. You know what you’ll get with him though and that’s a solid 7/ 10 most of the time and hopefully no massive mistakes. I’ll be happier starting a CL final with him rather than someone like Moreno.

As much as I love TAA, I’m more worried about the RB position and being exposed at the far post. It’s clear that sides have targeted those diagonal balls in behind him and he made a few mistakes vs. Roma misdjudging those. With the likes of Ronaldo behind him he’s going to have to have a blinder like he had vs. Man City. I hope he gets plenty of support and cover.

{Ed001's Note - well said SG. He is a step up and hopefully he will improve, as he has a great attitude, no idea why all the hyperbole about him.}


13.) 04 May 2018 08:13:45
Was Roberto Carlos that good? i never saw it personally, lived off a few spectacular goals for me.


14.) 04 May 2018 15:57:56
@Cobra - you're mental if you don't think Roberto Carlos was good. It's true he did have a spectacular goal in his locker, no question, but he was also an absolute athlete - he could get up and down all game long and he did get back and defend when needed. His also had an excellent pass, was supremely skillful, very pacey and basically, on the overlap, very difficult to stop.

He was that good.


15.) 04 May 2018 21:31:34
He's done a job for us and has minimized the errors and disconnection between CB and LB that has plagued us for years. Altho VVD is a big part of that too.

He is no Roberto Carlos but he doesn't need to be to get some love. I was on the side of keeping Moreno as starter, as I thought he was doing alright up until his injury. but robbo has been good enough and has been a mainstay in ourstrongest available XI.


16.) 04 May 2018 21:35:11
I think you can only compare him to his peers and of all the left backs in the premier league you’d have to say he’s right up there.
You can’t compare him to Roberto Carlos he was a freak of nature the like of which will probably never be seen again.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 18:21:24
Not a rumour, just a thanks to the eds for looking after us all and for putting up with some. and just to add, even though the ox wasn't my first choice, he's still a quality addition to a squad that was looking a bit thin when tested with injuries, and we all know what the boss can do when it comes to nurturing talent, the way I see it having another player in the squad who desperately wants to play for us and knocked back the champions and 180,000 a week at his current club to play for us can never ever be a bad thing!, cheers reds!
YNWA 🤘🏻😊🤘🏻.

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01 Jul 2015 14:27:43
Were we ever seriously interested in shaquiri eds? Quality player , quite shocked he seems to be getting closer to a stoke move.

Cheers

Red-pasty

{Ed001's Note - no.}


1.) 01 Jul 2015 15:33:04
Cheers mate, I was a lil skeptical in January over our alleged interest as he seemed keen yet went to inter , plus always felt that if we truly wanted him we would have got him, anyway. cheers for the swift answer.


2.) 01 Jul 2015 15:38:36
ED001

We know inter need to sell to buy (kondogbia etc) If inter sell Shaqiri on, will it look less likely they will want, or need to sell Kovacic?

Thanks in advance

{Ed001's Note - the more they raise from others, the less they will need to sell, so yes.}


 

 

14 Jan 2015 17:19:48
Hi eds n reds, don't shoot the messenger but heard that we had another look at tevez last summer, any truth in that eds? I very much doubt he someone we lookin at now like but interestin if was true because alexis aside he would probly be the only other option we would have looked at who in a similar mold to luis and would have been an almost like for like replacement. Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - Someone has been teasing you.}


 

 

03 Aug 2014 18:45:45
Not a rumour just LFC tv sayin that markovic carryin a niggle and that's why never made the Milan squad, nothin bout a bad injury. Just for those who were worryin.

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1.) 03 Aug 2014 20:55:00
I wasn't aware markovic played for Milan.


 

 

 

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29 Jul 2018 18:24:37
He’s literally just joined lad, judging his complete club inpact over a couple of preseason games is ludicrous, he’s just come from a completely different league, he 100% has ALL of the attributes needed to be an absolute legend for us once he’s settled and in sync with our style of play, come on redrebel1 stop being so ridiculously unrealistic and give the lad a chance, I genuinely hope you happily eat your own words on this one lad, let’s get some positivity flowing and back ALL of our squad to move forward and have a boss season. He’s going to be awesome for us once he’s settled, believe it.

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09 Jul 2018 19:46:39
Bit late to this party but didn’t van nistlerooy’s original transfer to United get put on hold due to him rupturing his ACL? It pains me to say it still but he came back from that to have a long and successful career. injuries happen all the time, but it doesn’t mean a player can’t reach potential, look how good Fekir’s season was last year, he was incredible.

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02 Jul 2018 16:17:50
@WYred downvoted your post there by accident, was made up to see it let me upvote as well (strange? ) but just wanted to say I 100% agree with what you said there, I like Jurgen’s quote when he said that mo signing on shows that we reward individuals for the part they play FOR the group, and that it proves there is a home for world class talent at Anfield - that bit made me smile massively! - great way to start the season knowing 2 of the front 3 are already signed up for extensions and hopefully Mané will have some the same come August. great post lid!

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02 Jul 2018 16:10:19
Sorry lads got to agree with ed02 here, shocking the way some of our players who are far down the pecking order get hated on for not being good enough and then slated for taking wages the wages their entitled to, the lad didn’t make the grade, we should all be wishing him every success for the future and see him hopefully hold down a position somewhere else, the club are obliged to do what’s best for the club but they will wish him all the best when he leaves, so why can’t we all do the same? At the end of the day you want him in the future coaching youngsters and telling them how amazing it is to be a Liverpool player, wether your on the pitch or not, the lad is a pro footballer, and he’s not playing, I’ve suffered from depression all of my life from PTSD and I can only imagine how bad a toll it takes on a pro when their not playing, when their reminded everyday how short their career is and knowing every season that goes by the smaller his chances are of turning it around, at the end of the day the lad hasn’t played enough games for us to garner hero status or villain, just wave the lad off with best wishes, all the other crap just makes us all look like real crappy human beings.
these usually take a little while to post so apologies if I’m repeating what somebody else (hopefully) already brought up, oh and nice one ed’s, I don’t post much these days but love that you guys dedicate so much time to this site and all the pages for little reward, ✌️😔🤘.

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15 Jun 2018 19:54:10
He just said World Cup performances Kramer lad.

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01 Jul 2015 15:33:04
Cheers mate, I was a lil skeptical in January over our alleged interest as he seemed keen yet went to inter , plus always felt that if we truly wanted him we would have got him, anyway. cheers for the swift answer.

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