Liverpool banter 2

27 Apr 2024 23:13:44
Hi all, a lot being publicised about a certain Bruno guimaraes having a £100m release clause in his contract, what would people think of spending some of that Salah money on sorting our midfield? Absolute class player and would play that double pivot position brilliantly! Does beg the question why we were bidding over £100m for Caicedo when Bruno is available at that price! Wouldn’t mind stealing Isaak from them either the guy is absolutely clinical and calmness personified in front of goal.

28 Apr 2024 01:41:36
Would take both in a heart beat, Twitter seems to think Edwards wants isak but realistically I can't see us getting either unless Newcastle needs to sell for ffp.

Pretty sure they won't need to though, oil money talks.

{Ed001's Note - why is Edwards involved? Recruitment is not his job is it?}

28 Apr 2024 01:53:22
Some of that Salah money? How much are we getting?
Seriously though, I don't know if Salah will be sold or not but I do rate Guimaraes highly. It's just a feeling but I don't think he'd fancy us. I can see him going to City or a big club on the continent but I'm not sure who could afford him there.
I would take him, definitely.

28 Apr 2024 02:35:24
Bruno didn’t move last summer.

28 Apr 2024 10:08:50
Just the usual drivel on twitter ed.

28 Apr 2024 10:27:47
Yeah the idea that Edwards ‘isn’t happy’ with signings we’ve made and is going to chuck Nunez out for Isak, despite that not being his remit, is very funny to me.

28 Apr 2024 14:27:17
I seem to remeher reading that Newcastle might well have to sell one of their bigger players this season.

27 Apr 2024 22:55:07
With slot being our new manager, do you think sepp van den berg will be given a chance for first team place. Playing very well in bundesliga too by all accounts. Also, is there any top quality players in Dutch league likely to join us. Often a manager from a certain league brings in a player or two from that league too.
What was the turning point for us this season. For me, it was the game at home v Prague. Ever since then, the team just didn't seem the same for some reason.

28 Apr 2024 01:40:24
Doubt it mate I think Mainz have a optional future fee clause so I think he will go there.

28 Apr 2024 02:17:08
If I had to pick one turning point it would be the draw against United.
It seemed worse than a draw because we murdered them but relinquished our control of the title race. We hadn't been playing well for a while in games but still mostly winning them. That one we dominated for large parts and ended up salvaging a draw but it didn't feel that way.
Not only that but we lost the next two games after that both at home.
Maybe that's just coincidence and a bad run was inevitable because of how we were performing though.

I noticed a change in mood of Liverpool fans, as well. After we beat Brighton and City and Arsenal drew, confidence soared. I don't think the draw would have been as damaging for morale had we'd played someone else. We should have won by at least three goals.
Anyway, it was the game before we lost back to back matches and I can't remember the last time that happened before then.

28 Apr 2024 10:01:40
We lost games because of poor defending, Klopps persistence with questionable tactics, and above all the forwards not hitting the back of the net. Get the latter resolved and the first two issues become irrelevant.

28 Apr 2024 10:41:26
A clean sheet means you have to hit the back of the net less often.
It might be an age thing but give me a clinical and professional 2-0 win over a 5-4 one anyday 😂.

28 Apr 2024 14:33:04
Defending has been a big issue for us this season, and it’s an area that badly needs addressing. Hopefully Slot will. We need to spend big on a new CB and I’d demote Konate to 3rd choice with 4th choice Gomez/ Quansah. The latter I think will become extremely good with experience. We need to get to Arsenal levels of defensive consistency.

Up front I would sell Salah and Nunez, and buy quality with the money. I’d be buying a DM also, as I don’t think Endo is the long term answer. Adjust tactics by Slot will get the best out of Szobo.

27 Apr 2024 21:43:47
I am seriously worried that FSG got someone from Dutch League. I remember a certain Steve Mclaren who could not find a job in Premier league winning the Dutch League with FC Twente Enschede.

27 Apr 2024 22:39:24
Best thing to do is to not worry. I find it best when people are better than me at something, to let them get on with it. Especially when my reaction won't change a thing.

27 Apr 2024 22:52:44
Is it FSG or Michael Edwards and Richard Hughes? Think Edwards was brought back to see LFC rebuild again in he's watch.

27 Apr 2024 23:33:51
Who should we have got?

27 Apr 2024 23:45:01
I’d be more worried about our upcoming 6 pointers against Villa and Spurs given our leadership group are closer to throttling each other on camera, than they are to setting a good example or guiding us over the finish line.

28 Apr 2024 00:05:30
Leekuanyew

There is good reason to worry.
Equivalent to the Championship even though the Netherlands produces some very good players.

28 Apr 2024 00:05:55
It’s true, every manager that’s ever managed in that league is of the same standard :thumbsup:

28 Apr 2024 02:37:56
I’d be concerned if John Henry was ringing the phones to find a new manager. Thankfully he’s not

It’s a normal human thing to get caught up on the barriers. Allow yourself to put the barriers aside and just look at the person, what they do and how they may fit in.

28 Apr 2024 10:00:08
Leek, if you can genuinely name a better candidate (who actually wants the job, because Alonso didn’t want it), then go ahead and name them. Because not one of Tuchel, Mourinho, Nagelsmann et al would be remotely a good fit for us. Amorim, for what it’s worth, is probably the same level as Slot, as the Portuguese league is not a stronger league than the Dutch league and his record is vaguely similar, he ruled himself out of it with his antics, even if he wanted the job, he soiled himself in public so much that we offered it to someone who didn’t need to think twice. I’m impressed with the way Slot handled the question when asked, but also that he backs himself and is confident he can bring something to the team.

28 Apr 2024 10:31:34
Agree with that VV. The Amorim public apology was quite the humiliation. Initially thought it might have been a disagreement over strategy and his remit but perhaps it was over his behaviour. Flew to London to speak to West Ham for leverage perhaps? Quite embarrassing and glad we’ve got someone who backs himself this much, giving us a firm yes.

27 Apr 2024 18:53:54
Even if we had won the game today overall, the performance was poor and not good enough. Quality was missing, but for me more so the hunger and desire wasn't there.

Defensively, we always look very vulnerable. Midfield was sloppy and again the attack, even though we create chances, we very rarely look like scoring.
The changes for me came way too late and were the wrong men. Diaz was our best player today, and he goes off?

Such a shame and a sad way for Klopp's final season to finish. Especially is if you had asked a lot of Liverpool fans at the start of season if we get back to CL and win a trophy it's a step in the right direction. Madly enough, it was the kids that rescued our season and since the first team players have come back, we've looked disjointed and a mess.

Some of the players over the course of the season have shown that maybe they are not quite what a lot of us believe them to be. So there is still plenty of potential there, but plenty of work to be done.

Would love to see a solid number 6 come in, another left back to keep Robertson on his toes. Would take a number 9 if salah leaves and have nunez playing out wide where to be honest he looks more dangerous. Jota unfortunately can't keep fit all season.

27 Apr 2024 19:35:23
I wish that was all was needed.

27 Apr 2024 22:14:41
We were playing well but klopp and Pep ljinders decide tweak tactics, it was no longer heavy metal football, more like classical boring music.

27 Apr 2024 23:07:52
Have you ever listened to Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, Leek?
It's better than anything by Whitesnake.

28 Apr 2024 10:04:58
I wouldn’t say classical music, for example you could hardly call ride of the valkyries boring, Leek. I’d say what we’re witnessing is more in resemblance to elevator music, or if you’re ever on the phone to a company and placed on hold, that awful rendition of greensleeves which appears to have been played on a telephone key pad.

28 Apr 2024 10:32:49
Or maybe even The Moody Blues, to paraphrase Malcolm Tucker.

27 Apr 2024 18:44:28
Kudus was decent against us today I think that lad is still improving and could be top drawer
Inacio £54m Kudus £70m and a decent RB and we would be a better team I think next season.
TAA into midfield and surely Slot would be looking at a title challenging team again.

27 Apr 2024 20:13:02
Kudos for £70m you have got to be joking me, he did next to nothing today and is nowhere near that kind of valuation although I’m sure West Ham would take your hand off with that offer.

27 Apr 2024 20:33:16
TAA into midfield would not improve our midfield one iota.

27 Apr 2024 21:02:13
He'd just be another midfielder that can't defend or track back. Best passer in the team and capable of scoring from distance, mind.

27 Apr 2024 22:43:25
Not sure how anyone can watch that game today and want Kudus, when Bowen was clearly the best player on the pitch for either side.

27 Apr 2024 23:24:02
@MK, a lot of us see what we thought we were going to see before the game starts. It happens a lot with expert summarisers. Kudus has been mentioned on here after times so it was predetermined that he would have a good game, irrespective of how he actually played.

27 Apr 2024 23:34:38
And if you’re on about spending £70 mill I’d rather test the water for Isaak at Newcastle.

28 Apr 2024 03:15:26
Think Bowen would be great for us but our owners won't see value in a 27/ 8 yr old with no sell on value.

28 Apr 2024 06:19:43
Kudus played well, that’s what I watched!
Yes Bowen was the best player on the pitch but at 28 he is never going to be a Red.
Kudus still has lots to learn but he is young and full of potential.

27 Apr 2024 18:38:12
I have to say this reguarding klopp. Forget the results atm, when this man manages his last game we're going to feel it. I don't really care about the performances or results now. Didn't even watch the game today because it's dwindling out. However he's been an incredible manager and man for this magnificent football club. His personality was massive and there will be tears when the final whistle blows. The memories will be replayed and we will all feel the blow of it. Klopps been magnificent and was the perfect and dream appointment at the time. We suffered over a decade of mediocrity and he finally won us thr title. It's unfortunate we couldn't win another one with him and with the crowd but it is what it is. We have a very good squad and hopefully continue to buy well. The clubs in a very good place so let's try abd remain positive especially seeing this great man out and welcoming in someone that wants the job.

27 Apr 2024 19:45:19
So we must listen to your take on things when you couldn't be bothered to even watch the match? that's like taking advice on which is the best steakhouse from someone that is vegetarian.

27 Apr 2024 20:16:41
And why bother commenting on a post that you didn't bother to read, Kloppoutnow? Nice name, btw.
If you'd read it, you'd know that it was about Klopp's tenure not today's game.
The tenure you want to cut short by a few weeks after nine years.

27 Apr 2024 22:44:13
I am a vegetarian kloppoutnow and I can safely say the best steak in Surfers Paradise on the Gold Coast is at Moo Moo The Wine Bar And Grill…. My dad’s recommendation mate and he has let me know how incredible and wonderful and delicious it was for the best part of 10 years now
Your welcome….

27 Apr 2024 15:33:16
"If I speak today, there will be fire" - Salah

I wonder if this is just about being benched today or if this is a reflection of a rift in the dressing room.

27 Apr 2024 15:36:45
Wasn't there some arguments on the touchline between klopp and Salah. I missed what happened due to children being naughty.

27 Apr 2024 16:21:13
Who cares, he's always been a prima donna. Legend and prob gets in a LFC best 11 on performances but there's something dislikeable about the fella. He doesn't come across like he has the love and heart for LFC like Klopp does. Loves himself a bit too much for my liking and if Ed02 is right he's been itching to leave for years. Thanks for the goals Mo but I won't miss him.

27 Apr 2024 16:31:01
100% behind Salah here, for such an easy going guy to have that reaction there is something seriously wrong at the club especially the way things are going at moment.

Hate to see Klopp reign ending like this, the club should have insisted he goes when he made it clear he wanted out.

27 Apr 2024 17:08:23
Lol to the replies. How about goodbye to both and peace be with them. Klopps a goner and I think it's salahs time to move on. Hopefully we get a decent fee and buy a top drawer attacker.

27 Apr 2024 17:15:30
SpecialK, I'm with you in being a supporter of Salah, but you don't do that to your Manager in plain public view. There's the dressing room for that. Salah was gesturing with both arms at Klopp and had to be pushed aside by Nunez. That is unacceptable behaviour. Absolutely unacceptable. Klopp has stayed with Salah through thick and thin; made him the top player he has been. Now that it is time to part ways (everything in life has an expiry date), this is how you show your level of respect for the man who has propelled you to great heights in your profession?

Am I turning on Salah because, in all likelihood, he will leave this summer? Absolutely not. For me it's more a matter of how you leave the club. You leave with class and dignity and make sure others around you don't lose their dignity also; especially considering you are the highest paid player at the club by a mile. Not by being petulant on the field and then declaring to the media that "there will be fire if I open my mouth".

27 Apr 2024 17:32:12
Following on from games and players after match comments there has definitely been friction about "the forwards" not converting chances and rightly so. To be honest Salah was poor last season and worse this season, 17 prem goals (inc 5 pens? ) from 91 shots is not good music. Whomever made the decision to not sell him for a big bag of Saudi cash has a question to answer. Nunez shoots like a scared rabbit, there is a player in there somewhere for sure. Diaz is a creator and Jota a finisher. Gakpo, should be playing for Wrexham. or maybe the argument was about how long it took Mo to get ready and Klopp saying that that goal was avoidable if the changes had been made more timely. But the end result is the same, someone on the coaching team needs to be responsible for shouting "your going the wrong way! " We play with a front line of 6 David Batty's (no offence, he was good at what he did! ) . I am so happy that I have a watch and forget policy. moving onto the next 99 minutes. Peace.

27 Apr 2024 17:37:14
Its about time someone stood up to klopp, all these players are getting destroyed in the media due to klopps tactics but he needs to be protected? He is basically leaving them all exposed and literally setting them up to fail but just because he is a loveable guy then he needs to be free from retaliation?

27 Apr 2024 17:37:29
Our performances and results are hard to take as it is. But to see Salah and Klopp arguing on the touchline is just sad. I just knew there were rifts within the squad as it’s been showing for some time now.

Right or wrong, Salah doesn’t just react like that unless something has been festering or going on behind the scenes. In fact, Salah even doubled down and said to the press on the way out and I quote, “If I speak today there will be fire”. So that confirms there is disharmony within the squad. And Salah might well be right in how he feels, but no matter what you do that behind closed doors, not in plain sight for the world to see.

What a sad ending to Klopp’s tenure. I will choose to remember the Klopp I knew and not this unrecognisable version of him.

27 Apr 2024 17:41:35
I wouldn’t mind him having a go if he was playing some outstanding football.

Mo has been gash for weeks and really should just pipe down and work on his own game.

Legend or not (he 100% is a club icon) there is a time and a place. The sideline stuff was petulant but the “fire” comments to reporters are just embarrassing.

27 Apr 2024 18:19:57
Does it really matter?

We're not going to win the league, we're not going to drop out of the CL places, and at least one, if not both of them will be gone in the summer.

27 Apr 2024 18:23:41
His comment sounds a lot worse on paper than it does in the video, even though he shouldn't have said it. But with the wheels coming off the season emotions are running high. Salah has been a great professional and we should all move on. Let the media run the story into the ground if they wish.

27 Apr 2024 18:35:49
People always look for something deeper.

I just see two uber competitive people extremely frustrated at what has transpired on the pitch at the crunch end of the season. That frustration as boiled over and will be quickly forgotten no doubt.

27 Apr 2024 18:45:39
You’re a professional footballer.
You’re an employee of the club.

You’re being fabulously remunerated.
Do your job, do your talking on the pitch.
Stop being a cry baby.

Klopp is the manager, show some respect Salah, he’s your boss. Klopp should have changed his subs and left Salah on the bench.

Respect to Darwin Nunez. I liked that. He intervened and stopped it further escalating.

Good team mate, good professional. Well done son.

27 Apr 2024 18:58:33
Good god the bs on here, Salah’s a prima Donna, Klopp’s a goner…. what the actual f. k is wrong with you all. Best manager of the last 20 years and a player who is, at-the very least, in the conversation for the best player of the last 10 years and you can’t wait to be rid of them. Madness, this player and coach are part of our modern halcyon days, you will miss them when they are gone. Enjoy them whilst they are here, so they fell out today, so what, passion is what we want isn’t it?

27 Apr 2024 19:23:21
Everyone is hurting. The boss, the players and the fans. Was always going to be difficult to keep emotions in check after announcing his departure in mid-season.

27 Apr 2024 19:39:50
I’ve just seen the clip where he says it. Personally I’d interpret that he doesn’t want to speak as it’ll cause a media storm, ironically By saying what he said he caused a media storm.

27 Apr 2024 19:50:53
Nothing to do with it. Klopp expects a handshake and a hug before subs go on the pitch. Shows they are all in it together. Salah couldn’t be bothered to do either as he has so little self awareness of how bad he has been playing, he prob still thinks he should be starting. Klopp called him out for it and Salah spat his dummy out. The fire is entirely on Selfish Salah.

27 Apr 2024 19:52:57
Anyone stopped to think maybe the reason why salah is playing so poor is due to how he is being coached and since he is not happy it translates onto the pitch?

27 Apr 2024 21:29:11
Kloppoutnow (some name by the way) klopp made these players what they are today, name me a player who left us under klopp whos became better?

28 Apr 2024 00:42:23
We have a recent history of keeping players past their use-by dates (Hendo, Gerrard, Milner, AOC, etc) . I would be ok with selling Robbo, Thiago and Salah as they are not going to improve from here on in.
Salah starts every game despite playing poorly. The one game he starts on the bench he throws a wobbly when he comes on and then does nothing to justify his inclusion. He was a great player but his time has come and his frustrations with his decline are now creating negative headlines. I don't think Slot needs to deal with a player like that in his first season. Take what ever the Saudis are offering and run.

28 Apr 2024 00:42:36
This may sound harsh but it's the way I see it. I saw the clip of what happened between Klopp and Salah. Put simply if I were in Klopp's shoes, Salah would never play for me again. Who does he think he is? you respect your manager and his decisions, if you disagree? absolutely fine, do it behind closed doors.

Ra, Ron, completely agree with you two.

Acting that unprofessional, well, in my opinion he's done himself no favours. It's almost as if he doesn't care because he knows both of them are out at the end of the season. This should not be happening and it's not acceptable. A legend of a player but I see him in a different way now, a man with zero respect and has shown his true colours.

28 Apr 2024 05:47:30
Kloppoutnow - Yeah. wish I got paid £15.6M a year for being as absolutely gash as Salah has been recently. Yeah. I'd probably throw my toys out the pram for being renumerated such a pittance as well if I was being told to sit down and not need to do my job while still getting paid. life's hard.

28 Apr 2024 05:49:50
Spot on Salah, he's offering nothing on the pitch now anyway so what's it there to lose. He obviously off so protect the harmony in the remainder of the squad by demoting him to the reserves or simply giv him the time to sell his house or whatever. No need for him to put a red shirt on again. As with Klopp he's a legend but it's time to move on for both of them.

28 Apr 2024 09:41:53
Klopp is also an employee of the football club and hasn’t coached the team well in a long time.