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16 Jan 2017 12:44:59
what a superb gesture from everton yesterday giving brave Bradley lowry a day he will never forget, that little chap is a inspiration to us all, I hope Liverpool and other clubs give him the same experience as he received from the people's club, puts everything in perspective really as to what truly matters in life.

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16 Jan 2017 17:45:02
What bell hit the thumbs down button I pray it was a mistake.

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{Ed025's Note - i would hope so as well barry, some things transcend football rivalry and this is one of them mate..

15 Jan 2017 23:23:01
Got through a difficult Christmas period. Still in both cups, joint 2nd on pts in the league with the other 3 of the top 4 to come to Anfield in the next month and a half.
I'm happy

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16 Jan 2017 04:14:23
totally agree fitzy we have built ourselves a great platform to be in the race and that's all you want as a football supporter. Last nights game was 2am kickoff in Australia and i watched it with a handful of supporters from liverpool area thanks to them for a good night in a bar full of united supporters.

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16 Jan 2017 09:56:20
Agree, some disappointing performances last few weeks but also some great wins vs City, Everton and a very credible draw away vs Utd.

Some key players coming back too just as we head into a critical patch of games against 3 of the other top 4 contenders. I think the key will be having Hendo and Matip back.

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16 Jan 2017 11:50:10
Tbh, we are on 4 match winless streak

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16 Jan 2017 12:04:05
All these positive post that your happy it's a joke. We have gone from 1st to 3rd and got steadily worse. Will you be saying it's ok when we go to 4tg then 5th

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16 Jan 2017 12:48:08
The top 4 will change again before the season ends Dot. It's been tight at the top from day one and it's not like we were 10 points ahead sitting pretty in first then threw it away and are now third in a crisis. we were a couple of points ahead. we've played the tough Xmas period without our most creative player, best defender and our anchor, our rock and our captain in midfield. plus Mane for last 2 games. we are right in the mix and them players are now returning. First position isn't our god given right, we are joint second with an excellent Spurs side and both trailing a well oiled machine in Chelsea. Spurs play city the weekend so let's see what they're really made of, we have a tricky one against Swansea but we could be back in 2nd this time next week with a huge game against Chelsea round the corner. stay positive mate, things are not that bad

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16 Jan 2017 13:14:10
We were 2 pts clear, now 7 behind that's a 9pt swing and actually it's more than that because Chelsea weren't 2nd.

We have actually been pretty poor from the moment we went top. People need to acccwpt this and stop papering over the cracks saying we are seccond, now their saying we are 3rd it's ok. We are dropping the table right before our eyes.

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16 Jan 2017 13:43:49
Each game against our top 4 rivals in the run in will be like cup finals.

We can beat all of them.

It's the lesser teams who shut up shop and catch us on the counter attack or score from weak defending at set pieces that may trip us up.

The defence seems to be getting better the longer the season goes on so really we are in great shape compared to previous seasons

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16 Jan 2017 14:04:40
Not to mention a few of young players getting a run out, that stood out for me but all in all its not a bad time to be a Liverpool fan.

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16 Jan 2017 14:07:40
dot, u are one negative soul. chill a little. it's a long season and we are just half way. We have had a few injuries and our squad isn't as deep as others. Have some faith and patience my friend. ynwa

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16 Jan 2017 14:23:58
If we even go into the Chelsea game with the gap the same a win there would leave it wide open still. If Costa goes to China or his form even dips (could have a bigger impact than him leaving) then Chelsea will struggle.
Say what you want about Saturday as an example against this but over a stretch of say 10 games no Costa or a dip in his form will make a big difference.
Also we still I'm sure have our record points total at this stage? And Chelsea I can't remember many teams having that many points at this stage so fair play to them.

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16 Jan 2017 15:34:46
To be realistic, we try not be rose tinted glass. Brace ourselves for defeats at anfield but we keep marching on, no title is OK

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16 Jan 2017 16:17:05
Chelsea are 7 points clear because they went on an unusual phenomenal winning run. That's not going to happen too often so yes, they will drop points and we need to make sure we pick up 3 against them!

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16 Jan 2017 20:20:08
Regardless of all our issues currently, we are joint 2nd (3rd on Good) with yes 7 behind Chelsea (BUT who we play at Anfield) 3 head of City and 1 ahead of Arsenal and 5 ahead of the Mancs, in both Cups still until otherwise and have built a great platform to push on for the title of CL footie (first priority IMO) and we will be much better for the run in (easiest of all the top 6) with players coming back fitter and sharper.

Till then, we have to dig deep, fight and claw our way into getting the wins at home vs Swansea and Chelsea (saints and Plymouth as well) and we will be good to go. It ain`t over till it`s over and right now it definitely AIN`T over yet.

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15 Jan 2017 23:20:45
Just want to say a big shout out for Trent Alexander-Arnold.
Talk about getting chucked in at the deep end, he didn't just hold his own but actually looked really solid and composed for the most part, against man United at old Trafford! Almost scored early on as well.
Sorry Clyne but if I was Klopp I would not be dropping this young lad just yet.

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16 Jan 2017 01:04:04
Couldn't agree more, he came into one of the biggest games of the season, sure made mistakes but who wouldn't at his stage, half of it is nerves. Top talent, Id keep playing the lad.

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16 Jan 2017 01:19:52
Clyne is the incumbent and hasn't done anything to not deserve that. Not least the sparkling shine of the new youth prospect

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16 Jan 2017 01:56:17
I think I was watching a different game. I think he didn't okay. But martial was having his way with TAA in the first half. TAA grew into the game in the 2nd half, not a horrible debut. Certainly better than the 100 million pound man in the other side.

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16 Jan 2017 06:39:03
TAA will learn from yesterday's game and will go on
to become a top player for us.

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16 Jan 2017 09:59:12
I agree an outstanding performance in an exceptionally tough situation but he wasn't perfect either and not sure he'll be displacing Clyne anytime soon. I hope he develops into a better attacking option though (his pass to Coutinho was pure class! ) and that'll see him play games where we need that cutting edge vs. Clynes more solid all round game.

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16 Jan 2017 11:16:53
Have to agree with TjRed, thought it was always going to be tough for him in such a high-pressure environment but he did get run around a lot by Martial. Think he will regret giving Rooney so much respect for the cross that ended in Ibra's goal. You do learn from these moments though and he is young.

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16 Jan 2017 14:01:28
He was clearly targeted early on and agree with TJ he did ok but struggled for the first 30 or so. I wouldn't say outstanding performance, but he didn't look shabby either. a solid game after a shakey start. He wasn't helped being alongside Lovren sadly.

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15 Jan 2017 22:10:51
A question for the eds.

Herrera' s cynical foul on Firmino today was only given a yellow, and I'm not saying it should have been a red, but haven't new rules been brought in regarding fouls with no intent to play the ball?
I remember Xhaka being sent off (Straight red), for tripping someone who ran past him on the halfway line earlier in the season.

Apologies if I am mistaken, or it has been covered before,

Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - It is at the discretion of the referee.}

16 Jan 2017 02:01:59
I'd be more concerned about rooneys cowards challenge on Milner

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16 Jan 2017 10:02:01
I hate to see that much cynicism on the pitch, we were clearly on a dangerous break and when it's as obvious an illegal attempt to stop an Attack like that I think it should be punished far more than a yellow which often gets given for just a mistimed or desperate tackle.

What really should have been a red though was Pogba on Henderson. that was outrageous.

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16 Jan 2017 11:05:09
Pogba so blatantly grabbing and throwing Hendo to the ground in the box really annoyed me. And instead they get a free-kick in a dangerous position!? >: (

Any chance of retrospective punishment for sth like that eds? Since the ref obviously didn't see it. Totally not ok imo.
Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}

16 Jan 2017 12:43:12
So Pogba, Herrera and Rooney should have been sent off 😂😂. Why don't we make it a zero contact game then? Rooney was mistimed not intentional and you see them week in week out. Herrera took one for the team on the half way line, not when your through on goal with just thenkeeper to beat. You see that week in week out. Are you telling me that's now a red card offence? Jesus Christ

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16 Jan 2017 13:05:41
My gripe with Herrera is that he made that many niggly fouls before that incident he should have already been on a yellow by then.

As for Rooney his tackle was infinitely worse than Lovrens and yet there wasn't even a booking awarded. On the subject of Lovren I don't like the way United players reacted (again) . It's a Jose trait in his teams that i don't like one bit.

To balance the above out, I personally think firminio could have maybe should have gone for the push back. It was entirely brainless.

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16 Jan 2017 13:47:42
Can Pogba be done retrospectively for his rugby tackle on Hendersons.
I thought referees were meant to clamp down on that once the ball was in play

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16 Jan 2017 14:04:51
It was poor refereeing but it's not red for Pogba on Hendo. there were plenty of united players back fr Firmino's break, so not a red, but Herrera as usual embarrassed himself with the play acting grabbing his face. (the FA need to look at incidents like that) Rivaldo was given retrospective action in the world cup years ago for the same silly stunt. I hate the play acting grabbing faces, it's pathetic.
Rooneys was a late challenge, yellow at best.

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16 Jan 2017 14:10:28
Stand united. take your united tinted glasses off. You were lucky to escape with a point at home. First good team you have played in your unbeaten run. and you came up short. We will have to give u a cup for going unbeaten and moving from 6th to 6th! Great going!

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16 Jan 2017 14:30:07
Rodney's and millers was 50 50 imo they both went in missed the ball Rodney's foot was higher. Progba was just stupid and a red. Herriara was just embarrassing and should not be allowed in the game and the play acting was bad but on rules frimino should have walked

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16 Jan 2017 20:34:48
Spot on, lfcdiamond. Don`t care for the fouls on either side as the ref dealt with those correctly on the pitch. Stand, Utd have scored 5 offside goals int he last 4-6 games and only an (you guessed it) offside goal got you back in the game so stop mouthing off cos we fielded an under strength team (including an 18 yr old RB who held his own vs Martial), took your best shot (playing stoneage football with Sam Allerdyce tactics) and still couldn`t make a dent in our 5 point lead on you.

Your team is the most expensive team in PL history but all you could muster was an offside goal? Klopp still owns Mou in head to head as well and is undefeated at OT. Must be frustrating to know that prior to your run, you were 6th and even till now, you are still 6th.

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16 Jan 2017 21:37:24
Firstly, my post was regarding the so called red card incidents. If any of you think they were reds your embarrassing yourself. Secondly, and Hamilton, especially for you, you constantly talk crap, we beat Spurs, are they not a good team now? We beat Sunderland, did you manage that? And we play stone age football do we? You haven't watched the last two months worth of games then no? If changing tactic mid game to get a result is a bad thing then more fool you. You think football canning be played one way and one way only? Well had br had the initiative to change his style once you would have a title now. Instead 23 years and counting. As for awarding cups, your the only big English club without it. Must be had to take. Klopps lost his last 5 cup finals. Hardly the messiah is he. Can't wait to see it all come crumbling down

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16 Jan 2017 22:28:42
Stand - the rules are quite clear, if you go into a tackle with studs raised - as Rooney did on Milner - that is dangerous play and a straight red card. 50-50 doesn't come into it, it was dangerous play, there is no argument. A handball in the box denying a goalscoring opportunity is also a red card - Suarez at World Cup- but Pogba didn't even get booked.

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17 Jan 2017 14:09:12
Ron, but no mention of your defender denying Southampton with his arm on the goal line when redmond hit the bar the other nightV its double standards at its very best

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17 Jan 2017 18:34:44
Again. imaginary hand balls viewed via united coloured glasses. Obsessed with Liverpool. u sure u really support united stand? On the liverpool page an awful lot! Lol something u want to tell us? Come on. it's ok.

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15 Jan 2017 22:44:27
Just want to say well played Simon Mignolet. I posted on here that I didn't think he should have been dropped when he was, because in the games he played he did nothing wrong Since he has come back in he has done very well for us, and today saved 2 certain goals. Just hope he can carry on in the same vein

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15 Jan 2017 22:41:48
Boys not a Liverpool supporter but why didn't coutinho and sturrudge didn't start today was baffling, if you don't want sturridge send him down to the spurs

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15 Jan 2017 23:43:58
Team was picked to stiffel Carrick and went well until HT and then they reverted to using the long ball from the back because they have 0 creativity anywhere on the pitch.

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16 Jan 2017 01:20:56
Unfair to say they have zero creativity. They created a couple chances in the first half that without migs could have swung the game easily

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16 Jan 2017 03:49:51
They were silly mistakes on our behalf not creativity from UTD, Mourinho knows what he has to do to get results hence utd resorting to the long ball. It's a fact look up the stats and tell me where the creativity is in that?

As for the goal we conceded well I think klopp put it best.

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16 Jan 2017 04:41:24
You`re right, Faith. However, their attacks and build up play were not consistent enough cos as Savvy says, we played to stifle them in midfield and the press sifled their buildu play from the back. Also, Can did a job on Pogba too as his athleticism, energy and size matched up well with Pog, making him useless the whole game.

The fact that they couldn't deal with our press (Mou said so as well, they resorted to hoofball and bypassing the midfield. This is where Matip would have helped but unfortunately, he couldn`t play.

We created more chances than them and had moshots on goal than they did too so all in all, a very solid performance under the circumstances

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16 Jan 2017 06:28:33
Hamilton

Where did we create more chances than UTD? They had two clear cut chances in the first half and a couple in second half as well.

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16 Jan 2017 07:13:18
We created 13 chances Harry. they created 9. that is where mate

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16 Jan 2017 07:44:47
How many were on target and clear cut goal scoring opportunities. I don't think we tested DDG enough comparing to Migs was just brilliant on 3 occasions. A solid point is what we set up for and we got it. I am happy but stop over hyping!

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16 Jan 2017 10:01:15
The raver. coutinho didn't start because he has just come back from 7 weeks out and it's was always going to be an intense game with them kicking us every time we played through them. And Seeing how firmino hustled there backline all game tirelessly showed why he is preferred to studge. I don't want him to leave I want him to get sharp again but I fear the injuries have drastically affected his acelleration. I'd swap you studge for dembele 😉

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16 Jan 2017 10:06:30
Coutinho unfortunately wasn't fit enough yet, you could see him huffing after just 10mins and no way would he have lasted a game of that intensity for even 60mins, he would have slipped up defensively.

Sturridge was left out because Firmino sets the tone on the high press from the front and frankl I agree, particularly away from home. I personally would have played Sturridge out wide but Klopp perhaps wanted Origi upfront for his pace and aerial ability. He seemed to target Origi from the get go as an outlet ball from the back when our keeper/ CBs had no other option.

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16 Jan 2017 20:41:17
Harry as lfcdiamond said, we had more shots than they did, more shots on target than they did (4 to 3). Those are the stats. Now if you want to say which ones were more guilt edged, that is a subject of opinion cos I could also say that apart from the free kick, Migs made the saves he was supposed to make as they were right at him. They had all their creative players on the pitch, we did not. Either way, not overhyping. Just calling it like it is. Isn`t that what you always say?

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15 Jan 2017 21:04:58
Forgive me if this is a stupid question Ed002, but as Matip wasnt actually selected in the final Cameroon squad for the AFCON how was there any question around his eligibility to play?

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{Ed002's Note - Assuming the Secretary informed FIFA that the player had retired from International football and was not avaialable for selection there should be no problem.}

15 Jan 2017 21:53:42
Would it his retirement status not be irrelelvant due to the fact that they didn't select him. Surely if they had been under the impression he wasnt retired and not injured they would have selected him in the finalsquad? Or am I just nit picking?

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15 Jan 2017 20:49:48
Overall given the loss of the 2 defenders before the match, a point is a good one.
Remember, this talented, expensively assembled squad we played against are on a hot run. They are playing without the hindrance of the offside rule, yet they are still unable to beat us! If these decisions even themselves out. then bring it in!

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15 Jan 2017 22:11:32
I'd have settled for a point before the game to be honest. But, with not long left when they scored, it was tough to take, though probably a fair result in the end. They wasted a couple of chances, mainly from our mistakes, and we had just a few chances that were off target or straight at De Gea.

Migs was very good, as was Hendo. Apart from some great technique for the goal, Zlatan was quiet and Pogba should be buying a round for the entire crowd after that performance given what he cost (yes, it does matter what he cost if you're scraping the cash to afford to watch and he performs like that. )

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15 Jan 2017 23:34:10
Playing without the hindrance of the offside trap 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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16 Jan 2017 04:48:43
W/ O the linesman`s decision (which is beginning to wind me up, these ref decisions that Utd seem to have been getting), we prolly would have won cos they were getting disjointed and desperate especially if you bring on Fellaini as a battering ram. If hoofball is all the "greatest manager in the world" has to offer us with the most expensive squad in PL history, then I fear for him and his bunch of millionaires.

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15 Jan 2017 20:57:54
I'll take that despite their late goal - a point against an in form Utd and we looked like we were really up for the fight and also moved the ball quicker through midfield. I also thought we were better with Firmino upfront. Firmino just seems to bring something to our pressing game and you could immediately see him and Coutinho starting to click again.

Both sides created good chances and probably a fair result. Only 7 behind Chelsea and hopefully with Coutinho and Hendo back we can start to find a bit of the form of earlier in the season.

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16 Jan 2017 04:53:21
Firmino is out of the world. The guy runs and presses with the same high intensity and energy levels from the first minute till the last. The guy reminds me of Cafu, the legendary Brazilian RB who played as if he had two hearts (Fergie`s words) up and down the right flank through out his career. His perf today shows why Studge will never play ahead of him in games where the press will be crucial.

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{Ed025's Note - hes a good player hamilton, i dont know about "out of this world" but hes a grafter all right..

16 Jan 2017 07:44:31
he would be out of this world IF he could finish HR, what a great chance he passed up when couts put him through, his current record is 1 in the last 12 and that's not good enough mate, sturridge may not work as hard but at least he can finish, thankfully countinho is back and as we saw yesterday he makes such a difference to us.

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16 Jan 2017 08:31:51
He will be out of this world if he learns to take his chanced

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16 Jan 2017 10:55:41
A lot of people keep saying Sturridge can finish and would have finished this chance or that, but in all honesty we haven't seen that Sturridge for a while, walks around the pitch, spends far too much time outside the box, makes no runs in behind any more, thinks he can take everyone on and twist and turn out of trouble only to lose the ball, and predominantly shoots from outside the box. When was the last time we saw him run full pelt, with or without the ball? This has nothing to do with
Unfortunately I think the injuries have taken their toll on Sturridge, this isn't a Sturridge bashing post, it more a concern that we may have seen the best of him, hopefully he'll prove me wrong, but his recent performances have left me feeling underwhelmed and frustrated and I just don't see him being around next season.

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16 Jan 2017 13:58:20
If you could mix the 2 of them together.

Carlsberg don't do strikers.

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16 Jan 2017 20:44:35
Maybe I did not clarify my post. I meant Bobbie is out of this world regarding his unbelievable work rate and ability to maintain his high energy levels for 95 mins hence, the comparison with Cafu.

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{Ed025's Note - i will have that hamilton..

15 Jan 2017 20:26:17
8pts away at Chelsea Arsenal Spurs and United decent total if you ask me . We just need to get through the next few weeks then we should have our strongest team available again for the run in . Exciting times ahead for us Reds. The academy is looking like it is going to save us millions and we're showing great spirit and fight on the pitch . Hopefully this will be our year but if not it's not too far away

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15 Jan 2017 21:12:15
As much as I agree with the sentiment of this post the one thing I hate is the saying just could be our year

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16 Jan 2017 07:47:49
one game at a time please lads, Plymouth Wednesday followed by Swansea Saturday lunchtime. Trent Alexender Arnold I thought did very well and can be well pleased with his display.

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