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17 Feb 2017 09:24:45
You told me to remind you about writing up a best cb's in the world article a couple of weeks ago ed001. Would be appreciated mate if you have the time.

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{Ed001's Note - I will get started on it now.}

17 Feb 2017 10:30:53
Don't forget Sotirios Kyrgiakos!

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17 Feb 2017 11:56:17
Is Titus bramble still playing.

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17 Feb 2017 11:41:48
Coates overhead vs qpr. that's up there with the greek conans beard.

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17 Feb 2017 13:02:27
Torbin Piechnik the other Danish legend.

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17 Feb 2017 18:24:15
Forget any of the players mentioned. Anyone remember Mauricio Pellegrino?

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17 Feb 2017 19:14:03
Max that was out of order😁.

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17 Feb 2017 23:17:36
Glen Hysen, Kvarme, Ruddock, Babb, Traore . I could go on. 😎.

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18 Feb 2017 00:06:24
The little odd one out is Glenn Hysen because he could actually play.

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17 Feb 2017 08:23:43
Haha shows how fickle some of our fans are I remember people calling him things like the next Gerrard/ Toure when he first signed. Can is a young player and still learning his trade granted he has been in poor form recently and the team are performing better with Wijnaldum (Captain of the Netherlands? ) in midfield ahead of him but that doesn't mean he should be sold! He's an excellent player that just needs to put his head down and work hard. A lad with a great attitude and seems to have a genuine fondness for the club and guys want rid because of a few average performances. He has been excellent for us since arriving and been played every position besides his own for two years without kicking up a fuss for the good of the team. He needs our patience and support now.

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17 Feb 2017 08:32:33
Thats why he doesn't look to have improved becayse people claimed he was going to be that good and now he isn't well he isn't good at all.


Its very rare they will become that even if they become good players.

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17 Feb 2017 08:48:56
Doesn't cut the mustard with me pal and I've never ever considered him a possible replacement for stevie G wouldn't lace his boots I'm not saying he's a bad player but just not good enough to reach the standards of at least top 4 each season, young and room for improvement maybe but pace he lacks maybe with experience he might become a bit more cunning in his style of play which can make up for his lack of pace! A good squad player but no 1st teamer but that's just my opinion.

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17 Feb 2017 08:52:13
Is he still a young player learning his trade?
This is a 23yr old lad in his 3rd season at Liverpool with about 100 games under his belt in England and Germany's top league. He's also a German international.

He's no rookie.

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{Ed001's Note - still should be 3 or 4 years away from his peak, so yes learning.}

17 Feb 2017 09:29:29
Maybe if he wasn't trying to hold the club to to demand higher wages while completely not proving he's worth them he might be playing better.

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17 Feb 2017 10:21:56
He needs time and support that's all. There's a good player in him. Matter of time before he shuts up all the doubters.

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17 Feb 2017 10:43:10
He's got a lot of work to do is all I can say then.
Hope he does turn it around.
In 3 seasons I've watched him he doesn't seem to have much 'game intelligence' or awareness.
Loads of commitment, incredible stamina, just needs to up his technique and somehow develop the football intelligence to go with it.

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17 Feb 2017 10:53:25
He'll never shut up the doubters. He has the ability, that's not in question for me. He's just too erratic in his form to be a top player, more likely to disappear into mediocrity than give a stellar performance. He may shut the doubters for a game or two but then the usual Can will come back. I said from the start he wasn't good enough. I watch a lot of bundesliga and the traits he shows now he has shown since his Leverkusen days. He hasn't really developed at all which worries me most about him. I don't like being too negative about one player but I think Can has too many flaws, even his temperament, he can be as prone to rash and unnecessary challenges as Moreno if things aren't going your way.

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17 Feb 2017 11:06:14
Natural poolie, Emre's good performances come typically when he is handed a very simplified role.

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17 Feb 2017 11:13:12
A very similar player to Igor Biscan for me.
Heart of a lion, will run all day but never really seems composed and seems to be chasing the game.
Last season I lost count of the number of times he'd leave his position in midfield to literally take the ball off Sakhos foot and then pass it to a player who had moved into the space he'd vacated. What was the point of that? Used to drive me potty. Also if put under pressure by an opponent, he'd seem to panic which is not what you want from a midfielder.

Don't want to tear into the lad, I'd love it if he did succeed, like I wanted Igor to succeed.

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17 Feb 2017 11:05:25
Ed001, Can may be learning, but he is a very slow learner. He's done a poor job of keeping up with the curriculum, so there is a lot for him to catch up on. With all due respect to Emre, I'm not sure Liverpool should be a place for slow learners.

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{Ed001's Note - why? Does it matter how quick they learn, so long as they do? Why are you so impatient? We can't afford to buy finished products and complete packages, so you need to learn patience or you are just going to get frustrated. Just remember Ian Rush was terrible for three years, but the club stuck with him. I am not saying Can is going to be at that level, but that you sometimes have to have patience with a player to achieve what they can.}

17 Feb 2017 11:41:44
Some players just doesn't cut at some clubs. that doesn't make him a bad player. Lazar Markovic is an example. He is not a bad player but wouldn't ever cut at Liverpool. Can is no exception. I would personally love the club to go and buy a world class CM. Someone more disciplined to sit deep and dictate the pace of the game ( Rabiot / Verratti / Carrick ) .

And for the matter of fact, I don't need another Gerrard, certainly not the way we play, moreover I have that position well covered under Coutinho and Lallana playing that advanced role. What I need is an Alonso. Gerrard was a brilliant CAM, we don't need a CAM nor Can would ever be a CAM.

The club over the years tried to replace player to player rather than positions which is why we are short on certain positions and over stocked in some other positions.

Can doesn't bring anything that is a must for the current system we play while we are desperately short in that holding midfielder role for which we have no genuine class. Can would never be that player.

Everyone would unanimously agree the need for a top class holding midfielder and someone has to make space for the new player. Hence Can.

This is strictly based on improvement for the first team.


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17 Feb 2017 11:49:00
Much more ability than biscan. Can has got it and has showed it in snippets. Biscan in fairness wasn't a great player but was a cult figure with a catchy song. Can is much more than that. Be a mistake to sell him on.

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17 Feb 2017 12:50:13
Ron, agree with you in general but the dropping into defence thing was clearly under instruction so I wouldn't hold that against him.

He may turn good but I'm getting a serious Ibe vibe about him, a player I was seriously excited about who turns out to be rather average.

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17 Feb 2017 14:11:16
Sorry ed but I'm not convinced. It's really hard to show patience when the player barely displays any signs of improvement. I didn't expect him to be the finished product by now but expected at least some obvious improvements in his game. For me, he doesn't really have the natural football intelligence to cut it for us.

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{Ed001's Note - maybe so but that is not for us to decide and you don't see him in training to make a judgement on that really. For me he has a lot of weaknesses to his game, but all things that can easily be fixed.}

17 Feb 2017 14:29:03
If they're easily fixed then why has it taken so long to fix? I heard he has a great work ethic at training, but something doesn't seem to be entirely getting through to him. My issue is that he's got too many weaknesses.

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{Ed001's Note - because he has been messed about so much and in and out of the team in various positions. Why are you so hard on him? Lallana was terrible for years before it clicking this season, why can you not give the lad time and support?}

17 Feb 2017 14:36:45
True ed1 you say things better then I do mate and I 100% agree with what your saying. The lad needs more time, to me under Klopp he can be special it could go the other way but I seriously doubt it. But so called fans write him off far too easily give the lad more time, still at his age he needs to learn more no doubt about that but it doesn't mean he's going to be mediocre. Patience is key. Trust Klopp he knows better then us lot.

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{Ed001's Note - he might never get it, but his issues are not the worst, so he deserves time.}

17 Feb 2017 16:19:53
For me, Can is currently a weak link. If money was no object and we only wanted short term success, we could sell him and go blitz £40m on an immediate improvement.

However, and I am one of Can's biggest critics, to write a young player off is insanity! Look at United with Pique and Pogba. Or look at us trying to swap Henderson for Clint Dempsey! Or Spurs offering Gareth Bale around because he was so poor nobody would touch him! Susi who we shipped off and is now a top player at AC Milan. We all wrote Lucas off until about 5 years ago people realised he was actually very good.

Look guys, Can may never make it. I have my doubts. I do not think we should make him a scapegoat for all our issues though. He is 23! The same people are writing off Kev Stewart as well. We need a holding midfielder? Hello people, we already have Stewart who Klopp loves and always puts in top performances when called on.

I would not lose sleep if Can was sold, but I wouldn't actively look to sell him. He has all the signs of a potential regret if we we're to sell. The bloke is an International for Germany! Average players don't get picked for Germany!

We are better than the common English rabble guys. Let's not right off Can so soon. He may be 23, but up until 18 months ago he was playing left back for Leverkusen, right back for Germany and centre back for Rodgers! He probably is behind in his development, but that didn't stop Drinkwater, Albrighton and Vardy from winning the title last season did it!

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17 Feb 2017 17:18:38
MK, that just doesn't cut it, to take your argument to extremes we should never sign anyone and only play youth on the off chance they turn into superstars.

Players need to be evaluated and if they're not good enough they need to be moved on to make space for someone better. That may not even apply to Can yet but it's the correct way of doing business in general.

As for your examples you're cherry picking and it's part of this logical fallacy that because we might come to regret an action we shouldn't do it all.

Bottom line is that Can is part of the problems we've had this season and if he can't demonstrate he can be part of the solution then his future is in doubt.

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17 Feb 2017 17:34:55
Ziege played for Bayern, AC Milan and over 70 appearances for Germany but was a complete failure for us. It is no guarantee.

The difference is the pace of the premier league. You have to have quick feet and speed of thought. The tempo is totally different in other leagues and indeed international football.
Being picked for Germany or thriving in a slower league does not mean you will succeed in the premier league.

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17 Feb 2017 18:59:48
I knew I was reading Harry's post above even before I'd seen his name. Soon as I saw the names Rabiot/ Veratti I knew it was him. His latest man crushes!

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17 Feb 2017 19:23:44
What is all this vitriol against Can? Seems like he has become the new Lucas. Fans always need to pick out a scapegoat. Be happy we do not have Aquilani lining up for us anymore and he did not get anywhere near the punishment Can is receiving.

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17 Feb 2017 19:38:11
Can has weaknesses to his game and that is clear as even he alludes to that in his interviews. He also has qualities as well. His issues can be worked on and his qualities can be improved. I just feel that he hasn't found his right position yet in midfield and this is where coaching and patience comes in. he needs time and patience like we gave Hendo, Lallana and many others. If you are not willing to show patience with a player you want to come good, you don't deserve the player you eventually want him to be, period.

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16 Feb 2017 20:26:39
I reckon TAA and Woodburn are going to get a healthy shot of football next season. They are two of our most promising academy youngsters so far this season and working their socks off. Next season, should we qualify for CL will give them the perfect opportunity to break into the first team squad on a permanent basis.

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16 Feb 2017 20:55:36
Even play them in the Europe leauge and Harry Wilson.

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16 Feb 2017 22:47:22
I've seen nothing from Clyne that tells me why he starts over TAA now - TAA fits our system much better.

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16 Feb 2017 23:39:20
Europa league? We won't be in that next season.

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17 Feb 2017 00:21:18
Would love to see TAA get a little run in the team but not replace clyne just yet, break him in gently.

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17 Feb 2017 03:27:56
The next time we play against a Europa League team will be in the Super Cup in 2018.

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17 Feb 2017 19:00:30
Try champions league!

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16 Feb 2017 18:05:55
Hey eds. for ed001 of he's around
Whats your view on yan dhanda? Is he regarded highly enough in the academy to make it to the first team?

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{Ed001's Note - he is very highly regarded and is making good progress, but he is not yet ready for the first team.}

17 Feb 2017 11:11:50
I was actually excited to see him going with the first team to La Manga.
I hope he just keeps his head down, work hard and climb the ladder .

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16 Feb 2017 16:15:38
Someone Please help me find the Sharkopod!

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{Ed002's Note - }

16 Feb 2017 15:57:29
Ed 1 or 2, do you think we will attempt to sign Jonathan Tah in the summer? Cheers in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

16 Feb 2017 23:02:14
Tah for the reply 😉

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16 Feb 2017 14:36:21

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{Ed002's Note - We cannot spend our time answering questions about random players you think of.}

17 Feb 2017 10:21:05
Thanks very much!

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16 Feb 2017 11:03:56
How to I get to the sharkopod?

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{Ed002's Note - There was one Liverpool specific Sharkopod, there were some final day Sharkopods (one with a Klipperty interview) and a bunch for other clubs. Perhaps Ed033 put them all in the same place. I would search on the word Sharkopod and hope you can find them - if not then let me know.}

16 Feb 2017 01:01:14
A question for ed01 it seems we have a real conveyor belt of talent coming through our youth system. I wanted to know how much of it is down to the restructuring benitez done of the youth system all those years ago.

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{Ed001's Note - pretty much all of it.}

16 Feb 2017 05:06:02
Fantastic i guess you could say it is benitez's lasting legacy.

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{Ed001's Note - one of. He has had a number on Merseyside as a whole that are far more important. The best thing he ever did was bring his family to Liverpool, as Montse has done so much for the city. If anyone deserves legendary status within the city, it is the Benitez family. Forget the football, the work they do for charities etc is immense.}

16 Feb 2017 07:54:19
it's nice to hear stuff like this ed.

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16 Feb 2017 08:39:26
Fantastic family, huge respect to them.

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16 Feb 2017 09:36:56
Rafa still loves the club and easily inside the best tacticians in clubs history. During his time he had a brilliant core of staffs around him who were simply the best. His family still lives in merseyside and I do remember him applauded and crying in one of the Hillsborough memorial Day.

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16 Feb 2017 10:48:11
Loved rafa like ed say the hole fam love liverpool. Also u wouldn't see jose or pep drop down a league like he has legeand.

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16 Feb 2017 11:55:51
Would you ever have Rafa back one day ed?

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{Ed001's Note - not as manager no.}

16 Feb 2017 14:14:26
If it wasn't for Klopp. I'd love to see rafa back but that won't happen. I love the man but I believe Klopp is by far the better man to manage our club.

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16 Feb 2017 16:20:14
I wouldn't, LFC16. His time is gone and it should stay that way. As for what he and his fam did for the club and the community, he deserves the credit. It shows that a true gentleman cannot be found on the pitch where the cameras are on. It is when no one is there to see the great things that they do off the pitch that they can be judged and Rafa and his fam passed that test swimmingly.

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16 Feb 2017 18:09:19
For all the good things Rafa and the Benitez family has done, I still can't quite forgive him for selling Xabi Alonso.

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16 Feb 2017 22:13:52
Good old Rafa, brought some great memories but also put his nose in where it did not belong. In the end, he was to keen on getting involved in politics, like he has at every club he has managed at. Leopard does not change its spots. Except at Chelsea where he was like a pawn.

Around the dinner table he probably will be the most humble guy you can find but I would definitely not want to see him back managing Liverpool. His time had come and gone which ended up being the better for Liverpool.

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17 Feb 2017 01:26:22
Not in a million years, Max. Rafa is history and should stay there.

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14 Feb 2017 18:37:28
Guys Today is officially Kolo Toure Appreciation day, so just how we showed love for Pirlo sorry Allen let's do it again.

Remember when Kolo bowled the ref over and then acted like it was the refs fault! Kolo!

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14 Feb 2017 22:30:43
Remember when Kolo Toure and Giacherini (for Sunderland, something like that), collided for a tackle and were embracing each other somewhat, looked at one another then laughed it off. the power of Kolo.

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16 Feb 2017 03:34:16
Kolo was probably the only one to play the game that could make conceding a goal somewhat enjoyable. His reactions were always priceless. Especially if he knew it was his fault. The ground slapping tantrums, you could tell it meant a lot to him.

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