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17 Feb 2019 21:31:46
I see taiwo awoniyi scored again tonight we have some interesting options for the future going to b hard too get them all in the squad but a lovely headache, rhion brewster, bobby Duncan, Paul glatzel, Harry Wilson, awoniyi, Camacho, I wonder how many of these players will seize there opportunity in the future, I like the look of awoniyi big strong good with his head, fast, could b a great option of the bench .

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17 Feb 2019 22:03:28
I think Awoniyi should look elsewhere to further his blossoming career cos I just don't see him in our future plans.

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17 Feb 2019 22:19:39
Not many mate, wasnt too long ago we was waiting on stewart, ibe, rossiter, sinclair etc. Imo Wilson looks the most likely as he's proved it at a mans level. Time will tell.

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17 Feb 2019 22:27:18
Even harder to get Taiwo a work permit 😄.

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18 Feb 2019 08:26:34
I like Wilson but he looks a bit lightweight and also not quick enough for a winger, would probably like too see him more central with his shooting an passing ability, be good too send him on loan too a premier league club see how he stands up at the highest level for a season, saying all that I would have him in the squad now ahead of lallana but he needs too play consistently.

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18 Feb 2019 09:27:19
Realistically I think Brewster might be the only one to establish himself in our squad. Clubs competing for major honours every year at the highest level can rarely afford to give youngsters the time and trust needed to prove themselves in the modern day "instant success" game . I'm not by any means writing any of them off but I think realistically it's hard to picture any of them being given opportunities with our current squad and our ability to be able to buy proven quality players.

Trent was a rare example of breaking through when you consider all the other youngsters we've had look promising at youth level but fail to make the grade, and a lot of those players had chances when our squad was a lot weaker in the past. I hope I'm wrong but I just can't see any of them being given enough playing time with the players we currently have.

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17 Feb 2019 20:58:28
No wonder man city doing so well in the Cup competitions they have been very lucky with all the draws so far: Carabao Cup semi final two legs Burton Albion could of been spurs/ chelsea. FA Cup fifth round Newport County, League Two Team the lowest placed team left in last 16 of FA Cup: European Cup last 16 Schalke currently 14th placed in the Bundesliga with a MINUS goal difference of 7, only 18 teams in Bundesliga. My own view is its going to get tougher for man city as the season goes on in all competitions.
Lets hope we draw Man City in the Euro Cup last Eight again, that will be a great straightener. Bring it on.

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17 Feb 2019 22:02:24
True, they can't avoid all the top teams forever, it'll get much more difficult for them as the time passes then they'll be under more pressure, we'll be laughing, I'm sure of it.

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17 Feb 2019 22:05:10
James Bond, there's a reason why Cup competitions can and should NEVER be used to judge a team over a season even tho a glorious CL campaign can override that. Just ask LFC circa 2005.

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18 Feb 2019 12:24:13
So when Gerard Houlliers team won a "CUP TREBLE" in 2001, FA Cup Winners, League Cup Winners, UEFA Cup Winners it was not a successful season, think you will find that carraghers team mates who played in the above sides will say he is talking through his "HAT ", same as you if you don't think it was an EXCELLENT Season.

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18 Feb 2019 18:19:31
007, we were not very good in the league that season (even tho we qualified for yhe CL) cos we focused more on the Cup competitions. If that is your standard then sure, we had an excellent season. Cos that is NOT the standard used to judge a team over a period of time in terms of consistency, the fact that we won three Cup comps. does not change this standard. It's that simple. Peace!

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18 Feb 2019 19:42:39
So ye don't like LFC winning trophies, you are the only purported LFC Fan i know who does not like the Reds winning trophies, you stick to ye Standards, i will like all LFC Fans stick to winning trophies. Every Competition LFC enter the supporters want them to win it FULL STOP.

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17 Feb 2019 20:43:07
What's happening with masterson and philips this season are both injured if so how unlucky for them with our recent injuries could of been a chance to step up.

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17 Feb 2019 19:15:02
"{Ed001's Note - offload Matip or Lovren and bring in someone to fight for the place with Gomez and VVD. }"

Totally agree there ed. And this for me should be the logic with our main recruitment.
We have to sign players good enough to fight for and earn a starting position in the team, even if it means displacing the current starters, as long as it improves the side.

The mentality of a mere "back up" happy to play second fiddle and the equally annoying "where's he going to play" is why when VVD, Mane, Salah, Firmino and Robertson don't play there's suddenly a 80% drop in quality. Differential between "first" and "second, third" picks is Pacific ocean-ic.

I get that we probably may not get exact VVD quality, but you got get something not too far off, 40% at most.
Any higher and you in trouble.
Presently only Gomez comes satisfactorily near VVD. Rest are a long, LONG way off. As is Alisson/ Mignolet.

So I don't get why when we linked with a forward of "top" quality questions arise about where he'll play/ if he'll be happy to sit on the bench.
IF i. e that "top" quality is Werner/ Bailey/ Dybala/ Pepe/ Son, why couldn't he outperform any of Mane/ Firmino/ Salah and earn a starting place? Why couldn't they prove good enough and better for the team?

Sure, don't fix what's not broken. But you surely can (try to) improve it?
Or are we saying there's players guaranteed starting spots and that Klopp's ideas are cast in stone with no flexibility?

There's been occasions when Salah/ Mane/ Firmino weren't playing well and may of been benched, but for want of quality to replace them.

It's common knowledge amongst us that team is looking for a CB, rightly so. Many regard VVD and Gomez as top rank. I've seen many on here punting Koulibaly, De Ligt and Aldeweireld. All very good CBs. But so far no one questioning where, if signed, any of those 3 would play seeing as we already got 2 "class" CBs.

They probably figure that it's Gomez who'd make way/ be rotated more often.
Well I figure as well that if a top rank forward were to be signed, they may prove better than/ outperform the currents, or they may not. Or maybe all four could prove deserving of a start and Klopp may make a tweak or two.
Keep in mind as well that none of Mane, Firmino, Salah are "proper" centre forwards.
Origi and Sturridge could be deemed to be.

Sturridge was done by injuries. Fit and in his element, there's no better centre forward in the division. He WOULD have been a starter in this team. He may have been our own version of Aguero.
Kills me how unfortunate he's been with the injuries.

Many remember that season for Suarez brilliance, rightly. But for me Studge really stood out. Man was unreal. First time got a proper shot at his preferred role and troubled little by injuries, boy did he shine, and shine brightly he did.

What I'd give to have THAAT Sturridge in this team.

I think Klopp will look at a more traditional (starting) forward and then promote Brewster. Sturridge and Origi will leave.
Bobby will assume a sorta 2nd forward, perhaps more play making role. Salah I see reverting to the wide right forward he played mainly in maiden season. Mane will keep left.
Of course there be fluidity and interchanging.

Don't see any attacking mid. Depending on opposition and desired tactics, Fabinho, Keita and Chamberlain will probably be our regular midfield, especially against non-top 6 defensive fodder.
Wijnaldum/ Henderson may come in against the big boys.

Once Keita is fully up to speed and Ox back for and goring, I think we set. Mind you, there's Trent as well, who's seen in mid long term.

My worry is at both full backs. Moreno needs no discussing. Yeah sure Fabinho can "fill in" at RB. But is that enough? We need our best DM/ HM in his best position. In any case, would he be as good? As per ed01 suggestion with VVD and Gomez, I think we should go and buy a RB and LB who'll fight Trent and Robbo for a starting position.
How would that be bad for the team?

Sorry for the long post fellas.

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17 Feb 2019 21:03:16
You lost me at "Pacific Ocean-ic"

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17 Feb 2019 21:19:17
I am hoping we can see adam Lewis Step up as the back up left back as he is well thought of at the club!

I agree on right back but I think we will get someone who can cover cb as well. Trent is obviously first choice but it Clyne will leave so have a space for someone to come in especially given the changes required for cb.

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17 Feb 2019 21:57:53
Camacho will be good cover for right back, can see him breaking through next season.

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18 Feb 2019 01:10:15
I don't think the issue people have is playing a CB, it's more who can we get and afford who is of the quality you speak off. As Ed002 has pointed out, we cannot go and spend vast amounts again without selling.

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18 Feb 2019 08:29:03
Thing is Jonesred Camacho is a midfielder-winger, we don't want another Alberto Moreno on the right side do we .

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19 Feb 2019 09:16:43
Good post. Maybe I'm on my own, but I would be happy to see VVD and Gomez starting pair with Matip as back up and the other slot available for a youngster to step up and fight. Maybe Matip won't be happy without being first choice, but that's where he's probably at for a top 6 club. He could get game time elsewhere, but not on his wages (I don't know what they are) .

We need to have paths for young players to have ambition. Why would a talented 16 year old sign for us if there are a nailed on 4 quality CB's in front of them for years? They'd surely know they're likely to be loaned out and then sold.

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17 Feb 2019 16:55:56
Have we looked at any versatile defenders more specifically one that can play both left and right back? I feel it would block the youngsters paths if we were to replace both Clyne and Moreno. 1 player to cover for both positions should be fine and leaves room forthe youngsters. Who would be your pick?

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17 Feb 2019 20:28:23
Probably not. But maybe Henrichs. It looks as though Monaco will probably get themselves out of trouble and he’ll stay there seeing as he only signed last year. Can’t think of many who can do both, at least to a good standard.

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17 Feb 2019 20:36:56
MattiaDe Sciglio?

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17 Feb 2019 22:28:59
It’s tough to find a player who can play both sides attacking and defending to an adequate level. It’s not just a case of being 2-footed, it’s about runs, it’s about covering and positioning.

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18 Feb 2019 03:17:02
Kieran Tierney can play both flanks and centre back.

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17 Feb 2019 16:41:45
Congratulations to Liverpool Ladies Football Team who have today progressed to the quarter-finals of the FA Cup, they beat Millwall Ladies by Two goals to Nil. The draw is yet to be made for the 1/ 4 Finals.

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17 Feb 2019 20:33:27
I shall be donning my all black attire shortly, and deliver covertly of course to all the Lady Players a Box of "John Barnes " for them doing so well today! Right where are the Keys to me Aston Martin.

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17 Feb 2019 16:23:15
Herbie Kane is looking abit luke Shaw in this match I've not seen him play in years but if this is anything to go by most of us probably never will.

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17 Feb 2019 17:50:05
Simmer down he’s having a top season!

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17 Feb 2019 18:06:05
Far too young to judge.

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17 Feb 2019 13:47:50
Hi Tris,

Hope you and your family are well firstly. Just like to thank you for the reviews each day, I look forward to them every day. Would love to pick your brains on football over a drink (non alcoholic in your case) .

I have been reading about defensive options, I agree, sell Matip and possibly Lovren, I'd love to see us get someone with the ball playing side Matip has but with Lovren physical presence. I know we have differing opinions on De Ligt so was thinking of alternatives. Who would be your ideal signing? I'd welcome Klostermann to challenge Trent the centre back is a toughy, nobody really stands out.

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{Ed001's Note - everything is good thanks mate, I hope all is well with you and yours too SA?

I have not seen anyone enough that has stood out. Konate at RBL has looked good on the one occasion I saw him, but just one game is not enough. Other than that, it would be Atletico's Uruguayan Gimenez that I would like but is very unlikely.}

17 Feb 2019 14:21:13
How about Kalidou Koulibaly I’d like to see him st Liverpool!

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17 Feb 2019 14:40:49
Ed01, I have seen Konate a lot last season (watched RBL's games to keep tabs on Naby) and tho he is a physical presence and and pace like his partner Upamecano, I think he is still a bit too raw for a step up to the EPL. Just my opinion. Regarding CB's that have impressed me as well, Jimenez is a good shout BUT do you think he is that good cos Godin is next to him cos after all, that partnership is also the first choice partnership for Uruguay?

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{Ed001's Note - hard to tell but yes he does look specia,l.}

17 Feb 2019 15:02:13
That athletico Madrid cb. Right footed, stand out cb at the world Cup. Can't remember who he plays for or his name so that's you lot well informed on my opinion. A guy who once played well. Two syllables. Bald or short hair. I think it's Uruguay actually.

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17 Feb 2019 15:03:56
Oh redwolf already mentioned him. Godin. He would be perfect. I'd rather Joe gomez manages to put his injuries behind him though. He has it in him to be one of the world's best imo.

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17 Feb 2019 15:04:54
Remember he is still only 22 and kept that Brazilian prima Donna forward quiet when psg came to anfield.

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17 Feb 2019 15:49:59
All well and good my end thanks. Konate looks fantastic, certainly better than Upamecano in my opinion. Giminez is the real deal, offers everything you’d desire in a defender.

God in is on the wrong side of his career now, so unfortunate as he’s my favourite defender out there. I would worry our style wouldn't suit him either.

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{Ed001's Note - Godin is slowing down badly. Shame because he is my favourite as well.}

17 Feb 2019 16:58:38
Godin has already agreed a deal to go to Inter hasn't he?

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18 Feb 2019 00:30:47
I'd like to see Gary Cahill as a possible option. 32 yes but on a free with a 2 year contract I think it would be smart business. Bags of PL experience and medals won. Very good on the ball and has the defensive aggression that matip lacks. His current role at Chelsea would make you think he might love the last big challenge of his career by adding experience to our backline and certainly be given more opportunities of game time than he currently is. I think it would be shrewd business but I feel others might disagree, we've built a nice young squad but no harm in a couple of guys who've tasted success around the squad. Similar to what Milner has done for us.

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{Ed0333's Note - really mate Garry Cahill? He wasn’t that good in his prime and you want him now that he’s in the winter of his career? Would be a massive waste of money and time imo.

18 Feb 2019 02:56:34
That's a fair point I figured people might disagree. I think it's a tad harsh to say he wasn't good in his prime. In 5 full seasons at Chelsea he's played over 200 games under 4 different managers, he's made PFA team of the year in 3 of those season, won every major trophy possible with Chelsea. Yes he's 32 but with teams who tend to dominate possession like us you often see centrebacks being able to play at a high standard into later years due to less workload needed over course of 90 mins. As a backup option I'd take him over matip any day who's on a similar wage currently. Would receive a fee for matip and get Cahill on a free with a 2 year contract. I can't see how that would be a waste of money as opposed to the crazy money being talked for these young defenders who've proved little at the highest level yet, and sitting in the bench possibly behind Joe and vvd would certainly not aid any of there potential development. I see you're point I just kind of disagree is all hahs.

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{Ed0333's Note - he wouldn’t be free there’s wages and a signing on fee. He’s has no pace and offers little. I appreciate he won honors and was a mainstay of the Chelsea side a while back but I don’t rate him never did don’t do now but I respect the fact you do. I would rather we blood a kid than a near 33 year old Cahill.

18 Feb 2019 04:02:22
I still think it would be low risk maybe 4 or 5 mill sign on fee. An experienced player can be invaluable sometimes to have around the club not only on the field as you see with a lot of successful teams. I understand your view completely, an ideal situation would be a young centre half who beds in straight away and progress over time into world class. I just find fans calling for de ligt, militao, konate etc to sign aren't acknowledging the fact that their fees would be in VVD ball park. Would be outrageous spending that money on realistically a 3rd choice as Gomez and virg have shown zero signs of needing replaced. Those players have a year or 2 experience under their belts in much weaker leagues. There is a very high failure rate with these kind of signings especially defenders coming in young to much superior PL. On a 5 or 6 year contract with big wages it's a huge gamble. Markovich type of situation can then turn very costly. If I was to choose a youngish centre half I'd prefer PL experience personally. Out of curiosity how do you rate lascelles? Only mid 20s and he seems to be a good leader and very vocal from a young age. I feel that's what matip and lovren both lack. If VVD isn't playing, the communication in defence becomes an issue.

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{Ed001's Note - how would Cahill be low risk? He is slow, injury prone and that was at his peak. Now he is lumbering. We play a high line, which is why he can't get in the Chelsea team as he is just too slow to play in a high line defence. He has the turning circle of a double decker bus!

I find fans calling for older players, with no understanding of the financial realities that see them ask for much higher wages than younger ones, odd. Especially when they are complaining that other fans aren't acknowledging the financial realities of buying a younger player, that can be sold on for some return if it doesn't work out.}

18 Feb 2019 04:10:34
Oh and Lascelles is more error prone than Lovren on a bad day. Terribly overrated defender who spends 90% of the game chasing his own mistakes in positioning.

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18 Feb 2019 05:00:02
I'l take your view on Cahill as fair opinion but disagree completely on that judgement of opinion. He made errors regularly in the championship a few years back when he was young but he's actually been very solid defensive wise over last 2 and half seasons. I've watched him play a lot and he's far from weak defensively, he brings calm to the defence and if you analyse the difference in results when he plays against when he doesn't it's an unbelievably drastic difference. Points won, goals conceded, chances conceded, errors leading to goals. Newcastle would have been relegated every season if based on the performance average without him. Interestingly he played in 43 out the 44 points they got last year even though he missed 10 games. They collected 1 point in those 10 games without him. You can't ignore that impact and just call him error prone which he's very much not. I'm just trying to pinpoint a sensible realistic upgrade to matip without breaking the bank. Gimenez of course is one of the best defenders around but not a realistic signing at all. We've the best defence in the league so just upgrading our weaker backups is needed. Not every signing can be an 80 million superstar. I believe other areas of the squad are more important to invest in right now than silly spending on upgrading competition/ backup for centre back.

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{Ed001's Note - oh god you think he is the reason they improved? Typical of those that read stats but fail to actually analyse them or add context to them. In the games he missed, how many were when other first choice defenders were missing also? I bet you have no idea have you? So you have no idea if the impact was down to him or the loss of the other defenders at all, but you have decided it is all down to him. Funny how, despite him playing this season regularly, the defence only improved when Lejeune came back from injury. So, by your reckoning, that would make Lejeune the difference. Or perhaps it is the opponents faced? Or form of other players? Or one of a million things in a TEAM game that can affect performances. I can ignore the supposed impact you have made up, because you provide no context or analyse, nothing. Just guesswork.

I have watched him regularly and he is not even the best defender at Newcastle, or in their top 3 centre backs. Which says a lot. I can call him error prone because he is. I don't know why I am wasting my time, to be honest, you are showing the same lack of understanding of football that Comolli did. You are basing everything on numbers you clearly are unable to accurately analyse, or provide context for.

As for your last bit, no one is talking about upgrading a back up bar you. No team that wins trophies in the long term does it by buying better back ups. You buy players to compete for the first team or you end up going backwards.}

18 Feb 2019 08:27:41
I clearly stated In my post that I've watched him play a lot and i mentioned what i thought were his strengths. Everything you've just stated regarding how you think i analyise football is completely false and presumtious. How you can conclude my opinions are based on numbers and stats is baffling considering I only used them to back up my debate which I clearly stated was from watching him play. I've no problem with you having an opposite opinion to mine of course people differ at times and I mostly agree with your player judgements in general but you've completely undermined my intelligence by stating how you think i reach conclusions, completely false in everything you've said about me.

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{Ed001's Note - no, you clearly stated that those stats can't be disregarded, suggesting they are meaningful, which completely undermines anything you said before. You should just disregard stats altogether in football, because you clearly do not understand them. For starters, nothing less than a 100 occasions is even of real value to a statistical analysis, as you need lots of data before you can rule out anomalies. Really you need 1000s of repeat data to completely rule out anything being an anomaly. As I pointed out, this season the defence with Lascelles was crap until Lejeune returned, which would suggest, no more than suggest as there is too little data for it to do any more, that perhaps the data you were using was false and so should be completely disregarded.

If you are going purely on watching him and haven't spotted that he has absolutely no positional sense yet, then I fear for you. His errors are that he is all over the shop and throwing himself into needless challenges because of it.}

18 Feb 2019 08:39:09
Also In regard to you rubbishing my idea of strengthening the depth of our defenders.

Ed001's Note - why would I replace Gomez? When fit he was exceptional alongside VVD and they were the best defensive pairing in Europe. I don't want to rotate him, I just want to keep him fit and have cover for when he is not. }.

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{Ed001's Note - what has that got to do with buying? I said I would choose not to buy in that as well. If you are going to use quotes out of context it helps if you understand them or it just makes you look silly. If you read through I said if I bought it would not be a back up, but someone to compete with VVD and Gomez, not replace, not this idiotic buy cheap crap to sit on the bench idea either.}

18 Feb 2019 09:31:49
I agree with you completely regarding the issue of using stats in a sport where there is never a medium to relate them to for relevance. I may have worded my post badly but I only included those particular numbers because i found them so odd and one sided when i heard them mentioned in the past. I'd never intend to base an opinion on stuff like


I know what you mean by only buying if we go for top class but I don't think that's necessary. With a back 4 it's always best to have stability and clearly we all know our strongest back line picks itself. There would be no harm at all in upgrading matip though who is very poor and I'd rather a better option to call upon when needed. I don't think it's necessary to buy direct competition because that kind of quality would be too expensive. Title winning teams nearly always have a settled defence all season long and I'm not a fan of rotating defenders.

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{Ed001's Note - ok I get that now, the way you worded it implied that it was the clincher for you and we should all agree because of them. I understand meaning can be misconstrued easily though, especially without the stress you can place on certain parts of your message through hand gestures or your voice. Without those the reader is left without a genuine guide to how the words were meant and can easily misconstrue what you meant and come out with a completely different meaning. It is like putting a comma in the wrong place, it can have a huge effect on the way it is read.

I would have to say that's no longer true about settled defences. Should be, and in an ideal world I would agree. However Man City chop and change their backline every week. Real Madrid haven't had a settled backline in years, Varane was always getting injured, Ramos banned etc. Barcelona also had a lot of changes, Pique getting older meant more injuries and Umtiti picked up a few knocks and suspensions. The last time Man Utd won it, they had to chop and change because none of their centre backs could stay fit. I mean we are joint top and Spurs 3rd and neither team has had a settled defence either!

Having a 3rd defender of real quality also allows the option to go to a back 3, if the manager chooses. There are many reasons why you want a third quality centre back, but most of all because it pushes the other two to perform or they can be easily replaced.}

18 Feb 2019 09:59:08
got a headache from reading this thread. Cahill can't get near a chelseas team that has been smashed 4-0 and 6-0 recently. Tells you all you need to know.

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18 Feb 2019 11:06:29
Spot on ed I'l leave you in peace now haha

Swishcleaner apologies for the headache. Maybe Cahill wouldn't be an improvement on the woeful matip but you shouldn't use the reasoning of him not getting games under sarri as your proof. Those mentioned results and sarris continued use of playing guys out of position actually counteract your point slightly. He's shown plenty of signs of managerial naivety since taking over at Chelsea so I completely disacknowledge his decision making as being proof alone. But if you just don't rate Cahill as a player on your own judgement that's cool by me.

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{Ed001's Note - I quite enjoyed the conversation mate, so no worries, enjoy your day.}

18 Feb 2019 11:33:05
No better way to start the week! You too pal have a good one.

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{Ed001's Note - I can think of a few better ways myself!}

18 Feb 2019 12:52:02
I’m sure Klopp is aware Cahill could be availble. I’ll bet he he won’t go anywhere near him ( nor will any top team) as proof that he’s not good enough. ( certainly not anymore)

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17 Feb 2019 12:33:57
If your about Ed01, apologies if already asked, but is there somewhere to find all of your player/ manager reviews without searching for specific ones?

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{Ed001's Note - they are all on this site mate.}

17 Feb 2019 13:28:17
Ah excellent. Cheers for that Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

17 Feb 2019 10:32:13
Been reading through a few posts and read in the echo the other day that a CB will likely be signed in the summer. I have no way of actually rating some of the names thrown around (de ligt and upemacano) as I haven't seen them play in all honesty just heard people rave about them. I agree with ed001 whole heartedly tho. Gomez and vvd looked the best CB partnership around its jus a shame that Joe is injured at the mo. My question for you ed001 if you may tho is what would you do? For me it's a no brainer when Gomez and vvd are fit they play, simple as. But what then I don't really rate lovren matip slightly more than him but if we being honest Gomez, lovren and matip don't have the greatest injury record. So I'm struggling to see what we should do. Spend on a player that is happy to sit on bench whilst vvd and Gomez fit? Rely on youth maybe but if an long term injury does occur have to throw them in for a long space of time? Leave as is in hope that there 3 injury records improve? Its a bit of a conundrum if you ask me. Lol.

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{Ed001's Note - offload Matip or Lovren and bring in someone to fight for the place with Gomez and VVD.}

17 Feb 2019 11:07:13
Cheers my man, seems simple enough let's hope we manage to do it in summer.

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17 Feb 2019 11:31:13
IMO Alderweireld would be the person I would bring in. Do you think he’s got the right attributes for the job, Ed001, including how much he would cost given he’s entering the last year of his deal?

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{Ed001's Note - certainly a fantastic defender who could also add cover for right back and defensive midfield. Seems the ideal player to be honest. Except he does tend to also miss large portions of each season through injury. So no, not for me, but only because we need someone who can stay fit.}

17 Feb 2019 11:48:44
Been thinking on this like everyone else. If possible Hummels could be a good shout for a reasonable fee obviously.

I’d forget De Ligt, Upemecanno and Koulibaly as they aren’t going to happen. Far too expensive and wouldn’t be happy as third choice.

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{Ed001's Note - Hummels is just another Matip, but better on the ball and just as injury prone. And slower.}

17 Feb 2019 11:52:01
If he has to challenge VVD and Gomez, he must be -
a) very quick
b) comfortable on the ball.

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17 Feb 2019 12:01:02
So who would you want Liverpool to sign for the role then Ed001? I personally think we missed the best option in Pavard. Would Tah interest you at all?

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{Ed001's Note - I have no idea mate who I would like I have not looked into it, but Tah seems a good suggestion. Konate is the one that comes to mind though.}

17 Feb 2019 13:26:34
Might sound mad but I still have faith in lovren. Gomez would be my starter next to vvd. I think we should have kept klavan or find another lcb, coz it's when vvd is injured or suspended that we will struggle.

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17 Feb 2019 14:21:07
Ed, are any of the youngsters ready to fill that role instead of buying another player? Phillips perhaps?

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{Ed001's Note - not really Gomez is the only youngster ready really.}

17 Feb 2019 14:45:17
Ed is correct. We cannot replace injury-prone players with another injury-prone player even tho said injury-prone player (Alderweireld) is the real deal.

On another note, Ed01 what do you think about Ante Rebic as an option in attack?

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{Ed001's Note - not seen him play mate sorry.}

17 Feb 2019 15:50:39
I think Philips injury was at a really unfortunate time, he had a great pre-season. i was fully expecting him to get a chance at some point if he had kept fit.

I think it maybe a bit more difficult given the length of injury but hopefully can recover well and keep pushing!

i agree both matip and lovren are both too injury prone. I know people have bad things to say about lovren but whilst he is a bit of a fool sometimes you can't question his commitment and slightly admire from what he has grown up from!

ultimately we shouldn't be getting a player to play ahead of gomez, so we can rule out Koullibay.

but someone who can push gomez and lovren would be ideal, someone who is a bit versatile and can cover other roles! .

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17 Feb 2019 16:16:01
When is big Joe back? got to be a few weeks now surely?

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17 Feb 2019 18:32:35
What about Coady Ed’s n Reds? I haven’t seen Wolvers play much so don’t know if he would suit our current style? Be nice to get another scouser (back) in the team!

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of interest and would he return to sit on the bench?}

17 Feb 2019 19:09:01
Good point Ed002. I was wondering whether he would prefer 20-25 games at his boyhood club or 40+ at Wolves?

If there’s no interest then it’s a moot point anyway.

Thanks for the answer 😀.

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{Ed002's Note - Maybe he wants to play for a club who wanted him and gave him a chance rather than the boyhood club who didn’t want him, didn’t give him a chance and have no interest in him now. Of Liverpool were to give him that many games and VvD were fit then it would likely be the end of Gomez as he would be relegated to third choice at best.}

17 Feb 2019 22:31:06
I’m with Zed on the Alderweireld opinion.

He would be a quality signing at the right stage of his career to not impact on Joe’s development. Indeed I think it would help Joe’s development as well as providing genuine competition for places.

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