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20 Jan 2022 16:45:03
Rhys Williams is recalled. Maybe to make the way for Joe to leave on loan to Villa?


1.) 20 Jan 2022 17:03:26
Expect more likely to be for Nat to leave and Rhys to become new 5th choice.

2.) 20 Jan 2022 17:05:51
More likely Nat Phillips, lad deserves his move. Hopefully he goes to a team that see him as a starter.

3.) 20 Jan 2022 17:26:20
Swansea weren't using him. That's why he's back.

4.) 20 Jan 2022 19:49:26
I would be very surprised if Rhys Williams didn't go right back out somewhere else. He wasn't getting the minutes he needs at Swansea.

5.) 20 Jan 2022 20:35:23
Unfortunately he is not good enough for the Championship.

6.) 20 Jan 2022 20:45:28
Might need a loan in league 1 if he's to get the full games he needs. No shame in dat he's still young.

7.) 21 Jan 2022 07:09:53
Philips to Watford acc. To bBC?

8.) 21 Jan 2022 18:03:39
How we got champions league football with Rhys Williams playing centre back will forever be one of life’s great mysteries.

9.) 21 Jan 2022 18:26:08
Good luck to the lad!

10.) 21 Jan 2022 21:08:25
He is a decent player but very slow. If you read the game like Big Sami did, fine. But few do.



13 Dec 2019 09:24:24
Eds fellow reds, quick question on the homegrown quota. With Millie, Clyne and Lallana possibly on their way out end of this season, and with the likes of Minamino coming in to add to last season's signing of Allison and Fab, are we hoping for some youth players to scale up to first team levels to manage the homegrown quota? Sorry if this question is ill placed, I don't really know where we are on HG overall but off the top of my head we have only Hendo, TAA, Ox (outside of the three mentioned above) of age 21 and over in the first team squad who are homegrown.


1.) 13 Dec 2019 10:32:39
Gomez. Really hope Milner stays.

2.) 13 Dec 2019 10:58:17
Isn't Robertson counted as homegrown also?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

3.) 13 Dec 2019 12:11:58
Absolutely over the moon at the news of Klopp’s contract extension.
Happy days 👍🏼.

4.) 13 Dec 2019 18:12:00
There is no home grown quota just a cap on how many foreign players you can have which I think is 18.

5.) 13 Dec 2019 19:17:18
I believe the number is 17 (25 minus the 8 home grown of which 4 should be from within the club) . An 18 member squad would be a weak one if we didn’t have great kids coming through the academy. For that sake really hope the likes of Brewster kick on.



10 Jan 2019 09:17:59
Eds, sorry if this is a random name plucked out of the blue. I remember Liverpool reported to be interested in Hysaj, the Napoli full back over the last two seasons. It appears that Ancelotti doesn't rate him highly, and Chelsea might be looking to swoop in for him. Any chance of Liverpool retaining an interest, for him to come in to help Trent at RB. He can play on both flanks so could cover for Clyne on the right and Moreno on the left as well.


{Ed002's Note - No. Unless Liverpool were to sell TAA.}

1.) 10 Jan 2019 10:44:39
Thanks Ed002! Then we are not going to buy any first choice right back.

{Ed002's Note - Not unless TAA leaves - or drops down to being second pick.}

2.) 10 Jan 2019 12:26:26
Do you think we will ultimately move trent into midfield in the long run?

{Ed002's Note - There has been no indication that there is any intention to do so.}

3.) 10 Jan 2019 13:52:56
We should get Azpilicueta in if Chelsea buy Hysaj, surely they couldn't keep both players in their squad.

4.) 10 Jan 2019 14:04:49
Thanks Ed.




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13 Feb 2019 22:04:53
Just caught the Ajax - Madrid game and again felt that VAR takes things out of context making decisions which are too arbitrary on technical grounds. Didn't think there was enough in it to overturn the decision of the first goal. Also thought Ajax had an argument for a foul in the build up to Madrid's 2nd goal.

Why can't they just do it like Cricket? Teams can ask for VAR for goal related situations (up to 2 wrong attempts a game then you can't anymore) . VAR can overrule the ref only if ref is significantly wrong.

The current rules just allow for lazy refereeing. I am confident that in a season or two we will no longer be seeing any offside flags as linesmen would rather play it safe and wait for VAR to rule it out. Same with penalties.

Rant over



1.) 13 Feb 2019 22:19:35
I didn’t watch that game but I’ve got to say whenever I’ve watched a game with VAR in it kind of sucks all the fun out of it, especially when you get a notification that VAR is being looked at behind the scenes, means you can’t concentrate on the game because you know it’s about to be stopped.
I had mixed feelings before it came in but for me I don’t like it, would rather we just had competent referees.

2.) 14 Feb 2019 00:03:29
I agree with both of you. I can’t stand it, it just ruins the game. We’ll be in a position where players and fans won’t celebrate until the goal is reviewed by VAR and the ref points to the centre circle.
I don’t know about you but I want to jump and scream as the ball hits the net not on the blow of a whistle or the point of an arm.

Then there’s those decisions that people just disagree on. Take Mane last season (I think it was against Stoke) when he was clearly kicked in the ankle in the box. He’s not immediately gone down so got booked for diving and some said it was a dive and others said there was contact so it’s a pen. How will VAR help there?

If you’re going to use it then it has to be for offside decisions (if they look at it in line with the last defender we should get it 100% right) and ball out of play type decisions only. Black and white decisions. Otherwise it will cause more problems for the game than it solves.

3.) 14 Feb 2019 00:52:51
If you have to have it, then use it properly. There was a flag raised for offside early in a counter attack. The Ajax player was actually in his own half when the ball was played. Isn't VAr there so that play continues, if he scores, then review the offside?

On a second note, I though Ajax were outstanding in the first half. Their pressing and intensity was brilliant. They created so many good attacks, just didn't have that striker to finish things. Madrid were totally outplayed in that half.

4.) 14 Feb 2019 05:20:22
to the original post the way it is used in cricket will just make football unbearable. teams will just gather around captain and ask him to call for VAR and in football most of the decisions are fifty-fifty so VAR can hardly judge a tackle.
VAR should be strictly restricted to offside and goal line tech. whenever a goal is scored just check for offside and whether the ball crossed the line, everything else should be human and as it used to be.

5.) 14 Feb 2019 11:19:03
Tough one this as I like the human element when it comes to decision making. VAR seems to slow the game down and it becomes almost robotic.

I do feel however that, the quality of the refereeing needs to be addressed especially in England.

I'd love to hear Ed02's take on it if you have the time?

{Ed002's Note - Largely if it could be left at it is with the referee making the decision then that would be best. Perhaps use VAR for critical goal or no goal decisions but it has to be quick. I agree the refereeing has gone downhill - and this seems to be more of an issue in England than elsewhere. That needs to be addressed regardless.}

6.) 14 Feb 2019 14:04:57
Ak, but var is there to eradicate human error. For me it needs to review everything or nothing, I know they can’t review every decision as the game would become slow, boring and just unbearable. But why have it if a human error can then lead to a completely fair goal. One instance that comes to mind, Chelsea vs Derby (I believe) in the cup, derby should of had a free kick in the corner but instead Chelsea got a throwing (which actually came of a Chelsea man) straight from the throw the balls whipped in and they score. Nothing wrong with the goal except to two wrong decisions leading up to it. Var gives the goal because they can’t review the previous errors.

7.) 14 Feb 2019 18:28:40
Completely agree Ed. Maybe if they put the money from VAR into better training the referee's we wouldn't be having this conversation?

I'm sure Benny Baller has some good insight on this debate if he's about.



15 Jan 2019 02:54:24
Been reading on about the Red Bull Salzburg striker who wants to come to Liverpool. He has a good record this season, but never heard of him before or seen him play.
Ed's and fellow reds, any interest in him from our powers that be? Also anybody seen him play and can share what kind of a player he is and whether he will fit in?


{Ed001's Note - it would help if you gave us a name.}

1.) 15 Jan 2019 04:54:57
His name is Munas Dabbur from Israel 🇮🇱.

{Ed001's Note - sorry I know nothing about him.}

2.) 15 Jan 2019 06:48:00
No Israeli is coming to Liverpool as long as Salah is here.

If we buy Munas, that means that Salah is on his way out to Real or so.

{Ed025's Note - you are guessing there mate..

3.) 15 Jan 2019 07:32:22
Yossi Benayoun was on Chelsea's books (though out on loan), when Salah joined Chelsea in 2014.

4.) 15 Jan 2019 07:46:52
JJLT, what is your basis for making that statement please? A tabloid rag? A social media ‘source’?

{Ed001's Note - it is nonsense, the guy clearly knows nothing about Salah and is making an ill-educated guess based on Salah once refusing to shake hands with an Israeli team.}

5.) 15 Jan 2019 08:01:29
A certain Mr Brewster won't be too happy if we are signing more squad players for the forward positions.

6.) 15 Jan 2019 08:44:56
He has scored 20 goals plus 6 assists in 30 games in all competitions this season, seems a talented player.

7.) 15 Jan 2019 08:54:41
Sorry Ed wasn’t sure on the name there. It is indeed Dabbur who has seemingly announced to Salzburg that he is leaving in the next few days.

{Ed001's Note - a hundred players a week talk about how they want to play for Liverpool mate, pointless even starting to discuss things like that or it will never end. I mean Akinfenwa talks about it on a daily basis but it will never happen.}

8.) 15 Jan 2019 08:55:21
JLT - ED2 already discounted that as a "thing". Salah might leave but this will not be a reason for it.
As an Israeli myself, can safely say that a likelier reason might be that the vast majority of Israeli footballers are just lazy and no good at football. .

9.) 15 Jan 2019 12:42:49
Yeah, all this religious BS has no place in football. 50 years ago a liverpool player would not go on to manage the gers.

10.) 15 Jan 2019 19:45:02
Salah is leaving regardless, but I think the poster who implied he'd leave because of signing an Israeli player is correct in principle because the extremely strained relations between Israel and the Muslim world is there for all to see, its not a dislike its a genuine hatred based on facts that are not to be discussed on here. But either way that scenario will not present itself because we are not signing the player anyway and Salah won't be here next season.

11.) 15 Jan 2019 21:11:09
Waro, there are a number of contentious assertions in your post but I will leave the political one aside and concentrate on the footballing assertions: ‘Salah is leaving regardless. ’ and ‘Salah won’t be here next season’. They are big statements to make and I am intrigued to hear what evidence or information you have for making them. And one in five who live in Israel are Muslims and some have even represented the National side.}

{Ed002's Note - For the third time I will re-iterate that when Salah joined Chelsea, a Jewish owned club - he gave a assurance that he was over the previous issue and there has been nothing since to say it is still an issue.



10 Jan 2019 19:25:27
Ed's, fellow reds

Saw a press article today about Sunderland cancelling Jerome Sinclair's loan. I remember he had left Liverpool to play first team Football - and was wondering how he has been doing?

Sinclair, Nemeth, Morgan, Mellor - just makes one wonder how hard it is to Guess how a career is going to pan out. Hopefully Brewster comes on strong - the lad seems to have good spirit.


1.) 10 Jan 2019 19:39:40
I can't say that I watch the youth teams at all but as I recall I don't think any of the 4 names you mentioned were ever really expected to break into the first team and play regularly.

2.) 10 Jan 2019 20:22:29
Sinclair definitely was.

3.) 10 Jan 2019 20:51:17
And Mellor was breaking Gods scoring records in the ressies.

4.) 10 Jan 2019 21:41:44
So was Adam Morgan and has ended up at Hemel Hempstead.

5.) 11 Jan 2019 00:47:59
Suso, L. Alberto, P. Gulacsi, C. Coady are doing very well.

6.) 11 Jan 2019 05:21:53
VakPa, true that about players like Suso, Coady and Gulacsi. I wouldn't include Alberto as we signed him close to being a senior player (similar to Le Tallec and Sinama Pongolle) . My post is focused more on strikers - we haven't really seen a striker come up from the academy since Michael Owen, unless you categorize Sterling as a striker. We hear similar good things about Bobby Duncan these days. Hopefully he can kick on and break the jinx for us!

7.) 11 Jan 2019 06:31:19
Christian Nemeth, I remember we had big hopes for him. Its a shame it didn't work out for the lad.

8.) 11 Jan 2019 22:32:01
Bobby Duncan will be the next fowler, Owen type stdjker to break through. That kid has built in sat nav, he knows where the goal is for sure. Trust, the lads a goal machine.

9.) 11 Jan 2019 22:32:24
And he is gerrard's cousin.



02 Jan 2019 08:32:19
Gotta love the latest Fekir rumors, with a fan reportedly seeing a Mercedes drive into Melwood at 7pm last night. Let the twitter madness begin!
Pretty sure we will not sign him unless one of our prodigious three leave.
Next incomings to Liverpool will hopefully be cover for full back and a centre forward (to replace the impending departure of studge and Origi), not sure if it happens in Jan or in the summer.


1.) 02 Jan 2019 08:41:15
I heard he was a done deal ages ago mate, you heard it here first! Eds, do you think we'll sign Fekir? ;) .

On a serious note, I really don't see us signing anybody this month.

2.) 02 Jan 2019 09:30:39
Chelsea signed pulisic, they got a gd player there.

3.) 02 Jan 2019 09:35:14
I’d be happy with what we have but just have a feeling someone will sign.



26 Dec 2018 19:12:31
Great win today. Looked absolutely comfortable. Also delighted that Salah is getting back in form, even if Firmino seems to be missing some of his sharpness with passes.
I still don't want to count my chickens yet. Will wait till the city game before deciding if I am ecstatic or nervous. Spurs also clicking into form but I am less worried about them as they will have a dip in form too.

In other news, did you all check the Harry Wilson screamer this week? Kid's special. I hope we can keep him and make a player out of him!


1.) 27 Dec 2018 00:02:16
Gonna check out Wilson's goal, OP. Thanks.




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16 May 2022 21:13:26
I am guessing the Diaz deal was a summer transfer pulled forward. Given the double (hopefully treble) maybe we do better financially than we expected but I wouldn’t expect any significant purchases unless any of the old front three move on.




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24 Jan 2022 13:37:07
For a player the important thing is to have self awareness of your skill level. Not every player will break into the Bayern team, and at an age of 22 you want to be in a team where you can play and grow. E. g. would you rather do this or play an Origi-sequel role? I fully appreciate that he wants to play and believes that he will have a better chance of breaking into a team like Bayern by spending more tim3 at PSV.




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07 Jan 2022 10:50:17
Didn’t Chelsea’s backup kiddies go for 25M or so? I don’t think fifth choice is justification for a Low price. He is worth whatever people are willing to pay.




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19 Jul 2021 16:33:34
The challenge I believe was the word resign :) which could mean two very different things.




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13 Dec 2019 19:17:18
I believe the number is 17 (25 minus the 8 home grown of which 4 should be from within the club) . An 18 member squad would be a weak one if we didn’t have great kids coming through the academy. For that sake really hope the likes of Brewster kick on.





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17 May 2022 17:41:40
This is what I expect / hope for:
Konate / VVD

Subs used:
Divock / Sadio for Diaz
Sadio / Divock for Bobby
Hendo / Thiago for Keita.




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16 May 2022 07:27:56
My hypothesis is that with the Salah contract situation there may even be a case for Harvey finding once again an RW position as his primary vs CM. With TM and DO leaving this season and Salah potentially around for only another season, Harvey could be seen as a successor there. And we might sign another seasoned pro for the innermid position.


{Ed0666's Note - whatever happened to young Harvey? Maybe he finds himself playing against Southampton??



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29 Mar 2022 03:21:07
Hope you had a good birthday Bazza mate!




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12 Mar 2022 00:21:19
I think Salah would want to break records as one of Liverpools greatest ever goal scorers and he will not go.




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06 Feb 2022 02:02:00
El Hadji Diouf. Scored a brace on debut I think.