Liverpool Rumours Archive January 06 2022

 

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06 Jan 2022 16:44:01
Eds
Just wondering if there is any update an Danjuma, just looked the line up and the bench for Villarreal and he is not even in the squad nor is he injured.
My only thoughts are he has tested positive for C.V..
Any updates.

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{Ed002's Note - Arnaut Danjuma Groeneveld (LW/F) right footed left winger - was watched by Liverpool in 2019 and 2020 and there were discussions with Lille, Leicester, Southampton, Wolves, West Ham and Wolfsburg. He moved to four months ago so it is most unlikely he will be moving any time soon. Liverpool have Mane and Jota in a similar position already.}

06 Jan 2022 19:29:05
Thanks.

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06 Jan 2022 17:57:33
Hi Ed002 would it be possible please for a bit if a summary on potential player departures this window?

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{Ed077's Note - Ed002 did a roundup only a week or so ago mate. So RTP.

Or use the search function. Damsgaard might be a good keyword to search.

06 Jan 2022 20:19:27
Thanks ed077 but it was player outgoings mate not incomings, I already read that post on interested players.

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{Ed002's Note - It included outgoings.}

06 Jan 2022 21:00:31
Argh ok my bad sorry chaps.

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06 Jan 2022 18:43:03
Hi Ed. Is there a reason you have said to check Damsgaard may be a good word to search?

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{Ed077's Note - yup. A good word to search. Searching something like Bissouma or Bowen would a broad spectrum of results.

06 Jan 2022 13:30:31
Hi eds, with Diaz looking a possibility I've seen the name Randal Kolo Muani mentioned also. Any info? Have you heard anything and do you see us getting one of then or maybe both in January? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained all Liverpool need to do to sign Diaz already.
Randal Kolo Muani (W/F) A raw and sometimes clumsy talent Watford and West Brom showed an interest in previously. Eintract Frankfurt and Milan are discussing taking as a Free Agent in the summer - the point of discussion being around the size of the signing on fee.}

06 Jan 2022 14:49:51
Thanks eds.

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06 Jan 2022 16:21:16
A few bosman's wouldn't go a miss.
Ed's if Neco does leave, any idea if his loss would be covered with Gomez, Milner and Bradley?

Also, any news on the Torino defender Bremer.
Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Who will Liverpool be moving on to make space for these "few Bosmans"? Williams has no future at the club and Liverpool may look to a youngster to fill the role - perhaps Bradley. Liverpool added Konate so Liverpool interest will have gone in Bremer.}

07 Jan 2022 00:09:25
I don't think people really consider that we might 'need to move players on in order to bring new ones in, and not just due to money.

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07 Jan 2022 04:48:25
Move Adrian and Karius, Neco, Philips, VDB Or Rhy, Keita, Ox, Mina, Origi.

In 2 mid and 2 Fwd.

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07 Jan 2022 13:56:37
We are in need of a decent cover for trent. Bradley is young and has good potential according to reports i've read so may not require and knowing FSG it may help us save money to spend elsewhere on the squad. However if we could bring someone in like Kostas who is a very good cover player when robbo is out, it would be great.

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{Ed001's Note - have you forgotten Neco Williams???}

07 Jan 2022 22:52:49
I really like Neco and everytime he's in the starting 11 want him to do well. But I just don't see that spark in his play in comparison to trent in 2016/ 17. I would love for him to stay and compete but I think he wants more game time.

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06 Jan 2022 13:53:37
According to many people on here and on Twitter, and despite our squad being desperately thin due to C.V./ Injuries/ AFCON, we are selling Phillips, Gomez, Kieta, Ox, Origi, Taki, and Mane in January.

Seems abit wild but the apparent £1Billion we're going to get for them all will do nicely I guess.

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06 Jan 2022 16:22:35
Surely FSG are going to get Jurgen on the rebuild before he leaves. If so that will involved a big clear out and a few top drawer signings. I can see all of those names leaving, only not this Jan.

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06 Jan 2022 20:53:38
More likely to see a managed decline than rebuild.

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06 Jan 2022 21:11:18
Always look on the bright side of life.

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07 Jan 2022 09:53:44
We live in an age of state owned football clubs and contrived sponsorship deals, not a lot to be cheerful or positive about there.

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06 Jan 2022 11:38:07
Really sorry Ed, I have tried the search and it won’t work/ can’t find what I am looking for, does anyone know what was posted re: Coutinho?

Is he someone we may bring back?

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{Ed002's Note - Philippe Coutinho (AM/CM) was available in the summer and was actively being offered around to English, Italian and German sides - but the clubs approached like Spurs, Arsenal, Wolves, Leicester Liverpool and Everton had preferred options or no interest and would only look to him if options dried up and if a loan to buy option were available - but Barcelona ideally wanted cash and still do. Italy may provide an option on loan but that won't suit Barcelona which might well rule out Lazio. Milan would not be a surprise at the right price. If Barcelona cut their losses then they may look to an exchange and might see who clubs like Juventus have available. Kia wanted to get him in to Arsenal ahead of Odegaard or Aouer - but that came to nothing. Kia will knock on Edu's door again in January and try and strike a deal - but with Odegaard signed it is hard to see where he would fit in without Smith Rowe departing. Kia will also try Spurs again, who do have space in their squad but their focus might be elsewhere. A deal involving Ndombele may be suggested. Other English sides have also been approached but even with a low transfer fee, wages will be high. Aston Villa have asked about a loan. Kia has approached Newcastle but they have no immediate need for a superagent and need to resolve other issues before buying players and it is an unattractive option for Pipco. Everton have been approached but seems an unlikely destination. A loan to Flamengo was suggested but they would struggle to pay much of his wages. Liverpool will likely also be approached but I doubt would be interested - but you never know.}

06 Jan 2022 11:58:32
Thank you Ed really appreciate you putting it back out there for me.

I can inform my son of your wisdom

🤙.

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06 Jan 2022 15:32:22
Coutinho is the most realistic player at least for short term until end of the season to cover Mane and Salah during African Cup and to anticipate unpredictable situation during C.V. as we lost so many players right now because of C.V.. Coutinho already know Klopp's style on playing football on the pitch and training session, know the staff, his ex-team mates (Bobby, Alisson, Fab, Hendo, TAA) and Thiago when he was at Bayern. Moving to liverpool can be considered as a win win solution for Coutinho because he will not need some extra effort to adapt with liverpool environment so he can be more focus for returning back to his peak performance.

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06 Jan 2022 16:07:30
He’d be pretty rubbish cover as he’s neither a winger or a forward of any kind. We don’t play with a “number 10” so he’d be as useful as a eunuch at an orgy. It’s not even as if he can play in midfield as he’s too lightweight and doesn’t work hard enough.

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06 Jan 2022 20:30:30
I agree VVVV.

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06 Jan 2022 21:15:52
And that's not taking into account his wages.

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07 Jan 2022 00:12:08
I think coutinho is even less likely than Mbappe and Haaland.

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07 Jan 2022 05:13:22
Back on 2017, when coutinho-salah-mane-firmino on the pitch together. One of them scored every 23 minutes. With current financial condition, limited transfer budget, etc. Loaning coutinho is one of realistic alternative however it depends on how much Barcelona want to share salary expense.

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07 Jan 2022 09:54:37
Thankfully he’s off to Villa.

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06 Jan 2022 08:54:58
Any truth ed2 we are interested in Luiz Diaz?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained that he is a player the club have an interest in.}

06 Jan 2022 09:42:19
Luis Diaz (LW/ LM/ AM/ F) Porto rejected an offer from Spurs in 2020 and Mr Mourinho is thought to be keen on taking him to Roma and moving Justin Kluivert on permanently. Spurs do remain keen and Atletico have a declared interest. The player has been offered to Chelsea and Everton and has been scouted by Newcastle, Manchester United, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Liverpool and Borussia Dortmund at the behest of his agent although with Ancelotti gone Everton are not an option. His agent would like to organise a move to Real Madrid but they will not be looking to spend the required €80M cash on him.

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06 Jan 2022 09:52:10
Surly we can’t spend €80 mill on him. I’ve not seen him play by the way but we are supposed to be broke!

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06 Jan 2022 10:15:34
Mane is surely off to play on the right somewhere else, and therefore we need to replace him ASAP. Looks like Diaz is the man to do that.
What is realistic in sales? 14m Nat, Taki 15m, Ox? Div? Suddenly the Diaz transfer doesn't seem to out there.

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06 Jan 2022 10:39:41
What makes Mane surely off to play somewhere else on the right? Jumping the gun a bit there likes.

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06 Jan 2022 10:40:19
So sell 4 attackers - Mane, Taki, Div and Ox and replace with one player? That’s a bit of a risk given our injury record and C.V. C.V.es and such stuff. Given people want to get rid of Bobby too that would leave us with Mo, Diogo and Diaz as our only attacking options - suddenly the Diaz transfer seems out there again.

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06 Jan 2022 10:43:40
We’ve played against him twice this season how have you not seen him play?

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06 Jan 2022 11:06:44
15m for taki? . xmas season is over.

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06 Jan 2022 11:07:08
I haven’t a clue about Diaz watched a clip on YouTube looks like he’s loads of tricks tho! It’s big money if possible would it not be better to Go after bissouma and danjauma for the same amount or there abouts?

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06 Jan 2022 11:29:29
If Diaz came in, Mane is 100% leaving in the next 6 months. We're not City/ Chelsea. We can't afford €80m players on the bench. It's bad enough we're relying on the likes of Morton because of the €100m we burned on Keita and Ox.

On Diaz himself, he looked good against us. It's hard to judge if he' worth that much off 2 games though. I do feel like he'd link up better with Jota though. Diaz looked like more of a playmaker/ link up player. Something Mane is not. Mane and Jota are too similar. They're often attacking the same balls and making the same runs. They both want to score goals and neglect the build up play. It's rare they create a shooting opportunity for somebody else and even rarer they get an actual assist from creating a good chance. Salah is the best because he does that whilst also out-scoring everyone else.

If Jota is replacing Firmino (who has long been our main playmaker) despite being more of an out and out goalscorer, then the person replacing Mane needs to be a player happy to come deep and be more creative.

Diaz wouldn't be my choice as i've not seen enough of him, but stylistically at least, he'd fit that requirement.

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06 Jan 2022 11:40:14
Bit harsh on Ox, was super for us before a horrible injury. i love this new notion that we've wasted or "burned"a lot of money these last few seasons. I would say of all the big teams in England we have got the best value outa the transfer market by a mile.

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06 Jan 2022 11:49:09
Fleet Street BS. We’re not signing anyone and making do with what we have, if we were to spend (which is about as likely as Everton winning the champions league at this point - sorry Ed025), it certainly wouldn’t be £60-70m as we’d struggle to afford a quarter of that.

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06 Jan 2022 12:07:42
To be fair Ox already had a bad enough injury record before he joined Liverpool and while he has had some great spells the rest has been a mitigating disaster as has Keita.

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06 Jan 2022 12:15:18
Jadon, when we played Chelsea the other day Ox and Keita sat on the bench and watched a 36 year old James Milner (signed on a free transfer by a previous manager) start ahead of them.

I really like Ox as a person, but anybody who honestly believes he is currently justifying his transfer fee is mad as far as i'm concerned. He's shown glimpses of the player he was bought to be but never sustained it. Nowhere near as bad as Keita for sure, but those two were an abhorrent waste of money, with the benefit of hindsight.

What i do agree with though is that overall we've spent quite well under Klopp. Which is why i'm saying we won't intentiomally put an €80m player on the bench.

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06 Jan 2022 12:16:56
Diaz rumours are all over the papers and Internet. Talking 60 million and saying we are close to a deal. Release clause of 67 million now or 45 in the summer. No idea if true but let's hope so. Be great to get some new attacking blood in but we also need a midfielder. Who knows but let's see what happens chaps.

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06 Jan 2022 12:18:31
No point bringing them up as reasons for not been able to buy or for having to rely on kids though. Weve had enough bargains like Robbo or Matip ourselves thes last few years. No team hits the jackpot everytime! just more needless moaning.

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06 Jan 2022 13:33:26
I reckon it's going to happen. 🤞.

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06 Jan 2022 13:37:27
Also Randal Kolo Muani been mentioned in one rumour online. Plays for nantes apparently and no idea who he is! Just relaying what I've read.

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06 Jan 2022 14:00:13
MK- while in someways you are right about Ox and Keita nobody gets all transfer right, a lot of other clubs you’d be quicker highlighting the ones that are contributing rather than the ones that are not.
Both have been unlucky with injury and Ox did look a real asset before his big injury (shouldn’t have come as a surprise with his track record) and I do think he’s been playing okay recently, if he can stay fit he’s certainly a decent enough player to have around and at £30m we didn’t pay the earth in comparison other transfers. That said I would snap someone’s hand off for half that fee and move on, especially with the reported wage he gets.

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06 Jan 2022 14:05:57
The naysayers want to believe that FSG won't spend a penny, but with JK having only 2.5 years left, i can see them allowing him to start the rebuild .
Does anyone really see Mane signing a new contract? He is not playing well enough to warrant the wages he will desire and it seems to point towards him making one last big move somewhere on the cheap or for free.
If Diaz is the player Edwards and Klopp think is the best for that position, then so be it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Bellingham join at some point either.

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06 Jan 2022 14:29:14
Regarding Ox, I think we have to look at his time with us and say it's been a disappointment, certainly considering the money we paid. When we signed him, I think he was in our top three or four most expensive signings ever. Even now, he must still be top ten or close. It was a big signing. Of course, it's clear he has been unlucky with injuries which have impacted him during his time with us but, whilst he showed a few glimpses prior to his serious knee injury and has that very useful attribute of being able to score goals from midfield, I would disagree that prior to that injury he was looking like a player you would expect for your third highest transfer fee of all time.

Nothing personal, seems like a great bloke and a good man to have around the club but he's not really delivered and, at this stage, I don't expect that he is going to, even if he stays fit and has a good run in the team.

But of course, not all of your big transfers work out well. Fortunately most of ours have in the last few years and, importantly, one or two of our less expensive/ lower profile transfers have also worked out very well.

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06 Jan 2022 14:39:26
Randal Kolo Muani? Any ideas ed? Anyone?

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06 Jan 2022 14:51:06
James pearce saying we won't be trying to sign Diaz in January.

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06 Jan 2022 16:11:24
FSG want freebies and bargain basement stuff. That’s why we’re sniffing around Kessie, Dembele and Traore. They’ve no interest in spending top whack, as there’s no money to spend, even if we sell Salah and Mane we’d still have the square root of nowt to spend. That’s not naysaying, that’s just reality.

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06 Jan 2022 18:57:27
Even if we got 15m for ox and 15m for keita and 10 ish for phillips (be lucky to get that for either) doubt we would see the money to buy anyone. The money would disappear. I agree fsg need to give klopp the money to rebuild the team for when he goes, but I'm doubting they will.

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06 Jan 2022 20:35:43
When you sat the money would disappear can you explain what you actually think would happen to the money @Magico? Genuine question btw.

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06 Jan 2022 21:20:38
The money would disappear - hahahah, I've read some funny stuff on here and that's up there with the best.

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07 Jan 2022 08:16:03
Maybe Paul Daniels will turn up and put the money in his top hat?

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07 Jan 2022 10:03:11
Marty, I once met Paul Daniels and I asked him about that time he said he’d leave the country when Labour got in and if that was the case, why was he still here. He told me to **** off. My only regret is not asking him about the magic trick that Debbie could apparently do with a dogs lipstick.

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08 Jan 2022 10:48:15
Ha ha ha. like that!

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06 Jan 2022 07:22:43
Good Morning Eds,

Liverpool are being linked with Luis Diaz of FC Porto and I was wondering,

1, If Liverpool have any real interest in him?

2, Would a possible move, depend on moving one of Salah, Mane, Firmino on?

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - 1. Yes, I have explained. 2. It is dependent on something else.}

06 Jan 2022 09:45:30
Hi Ed002, would it be possible for a move to be sorted in January, or is Summer much more likely? I just don't see Liverpool being able to find the funds in this window.

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{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt Porto would be open to selling now unless someone forced the situation - which requires an €80M cash payment and the player to agree.}

06 Jan 2022 09:51:23
Hi Ed - sorry if i am repeating the question or information is below but i couldn't find it.

Is the something else - that Porto own 80% of the player and need to own 100% before they can sell?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes but they have been looking to strike a deal with Junior and will do before the summer.}

06 Jan 2022 09:53:44
You a fan ed2? Highly rated but Portuguese football isn’t a league i keep up with.

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{Ed002's Note - There is no doubt he is a talented player and he is scoring goals from LM in a 4-4-2 but the price is very high and it is difficult to see how he will naturally fit in at Liverpool unless utilised as a LW.}

06 Jan 2022 10:04:46
Thanks Ed for the info. €80M cash payment is all I need to read lol as we don’t have a penny. I will file this one away with the others mate.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would need to borrow or perhaps sell (like other clubs do) to raise the money.}

06 Jan 2022 10:31:07
Higher price with a deferred payment again, Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - That is not how Iberian buy out clauses work.}

06 Jan 2022 20:38:13
You may have just opened up another line of questioning there Ed02, once we all figure out what Iberian means 😉.

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{Ed002's Note - The direct translation “is those in pointed hats”.}

06 Jan 2022 07:07:09
Has there been any approach or advances from us towards Luiz Diaz Ed's please?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained that he is a player the club have an interest in.}

 
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