Liverpool banter 7

09 Oct 2025 13:50:36
The Greek Scouser seems to be doing well on loan at Roma, So far this season, he’s regularly featured for them. And with Roma second in the table at the moment and only conceding two goals so far shows how solid their defensive line actually is. Wonder will he be back up next season for us in place of Robbo?

09 Oct 2025 14:08:09
I do hope not, Mcgov.

09 Oct 2025 14:12:08
As much as I love Robbo, I’d have preferred to keep Tsimikas. Robbo’s influence in the dressing room is invaluable, but that alone doesn’t win games. I’m not Tsimikas’ biggest fan, but I do think he’d have been the better backup option between the two.

09 Oct 2025 14:30:35
Tsimikas seemed like a good lad and was best mates with Salah.

But ability wise he would have caused more issues than fixed at left back this season.

09 Oct 2025 15:36:52
He never got over the winning pen against Chelsea, JK! I swear he never recovered from the euphoria.

09 Oct 2025 18:39:47
What for, to run the pensioners lottery, he will be in his thirties by then.

09 Oct 2025 20:13:32
Along with VVD and Mo @Mytton.

10 Oct 2025 00:35:25
imagine losing another leader in the team.
no thanks.

10 Oct 2025 02:52:02
Wdw . bit of a difference in Mo n VVD to the Greek scouser though.

10 Oct 2025 09:27:23
Yep, VVD and Mo are 3 or 4 years older 😉.

10 Oct 2025 18:46:55
And 3 or 4 times the player wdw.

10 Oct 2025 22:22:21
Totally agree @Strom.

My point was that writing off players for reaching the age of 30 iis ridiculous and based on what you (rightly) say about VVD and Mo suggests we agree on this one.

12 Oct 2025 01:30:22
Wdw . yea definitely agree on that one . I like the experienced player . helps the youngsters on n off the pitch.

09 Oct 2025 10:16:36
See egypt qualified for world cup, mo scored a couple.
Hopefully that gives him the wee boost he needs to recapture his form.

09 Oct 2025 10:57:46
Anyone know what position he played last night for Egypt? Wonder if he plays closer to goal for them than he does for us? Also appreciate that international football tends to be lower quality than the PL so the answer to those questions may tell us nothing 🤣.

09 Oct 2025 11:09:11
He could play any position against Djibouti mate.

09 Oct 2025 15:11:08
He probably does play closer to the goal Johnny because he’s their main man. He’s not the main man for us anymore and perhaps he’s having some trouble accepting that.

It’s like me and many others have said all along, if we sign a top centre forward who scores 20+ goals it won’t mean that we’ll score more goals as a team. It just means that Salah will score less goals. Mo has to accept that 10-15 goals this season is a decent return as long as he’s supporting Isak and Ekitike and helping them get 20+ goals. If he is trying to compete with them for top scorer then everyone will suffer.

Salah has shown last season he can be prolific in assists as well as goals. This season that’s what he needs to concentrate on.

09 Oct 2025 16:31:54
Is that Sheik Yerbouti! Sorry, Frank Zappa quote there 😁.

09 Oct 2025 20:22:51
Might do Mo the world of good. I think he needs to be in a positive frame of mind to be at his best - he suffered a couple of years back when Egypt lost in the AFCON final and then didn’t qualify for the Workd Cup. I think he took Diego’s tragic passing very much to heart and I think the shift in the squad with ‘big names’ and proper CFs has had an unsettling effect on him. Like I say, a couple of goals, qualification for the World Cup and the positive press from the game could be the best thing that’s happened to him in recent months. I genuinely hope so.

09 Oct 2025 21:41:48
Time too put mo Salah on the bench for us for a bit and give Chiesa a run of games too see what he can do for us opinions?

10 Oct 2025 05:31:55
Mo has had enough opportunities to get his obligatory stat pad goals :p.

09 Oct 2025 08:11:17
It's all very simple.

1) half of first team starters joined this summer

2) death of a team mate and friend

It is remarkable the results we have got under these circumstances. Things will gel but don't expect it to be overnight.

Their side is to achieve that and our side is to be positive and support the team to when it happens (likely months rather than years folks so keep patient) .

Personally I love the bumps along the journey as it makes things more interesting.

09 Oct 2025 09:43:35
Spot on, 1jj. It's a small miracle that we are where we are with all those things consider at this point. We just need to recaliberate things tactically, selection wise and do a better job of putting players in the best positions and situations to perform their best. If we do that, we will have a chance of gelling a lot quicker and go from there. That's my hope, at least.

09 Oct 2025 10:12:37
1jj good points but when we won the first 7 it didn’t seem to be an issue.

Surprised to hear earlier when we’ve scored first this season (7 times) we’ve won all 7. When we’ve conceded first (3 times) we’ve lost all 3.

09 Oct 2025 10:15:08
I hope you're right 1jj, but for me, they are two parts that will undoubtedly have an effect, but there is more to it.

I see a squad and team of players that are fantastic players, but not necessarily the right profiles to compliment each other. I also think going into the season with such a heavy reliance on a 34 year old CB and a 33 year old forward was perhaps not the best planning - unless of course the idea is for Frimpong to rotate with Salah (which it doesn't look like it is, thus far) .

09 Oct 2025 10:22:33
This sounds crazy but I think we are struggling for competition in certain areas, mainly the wings. Salah has literally no one to push him. Yes we signed frimpong but he did not impressed against Galatasaray and looks so lightweight. Then on the other side we have gone from Gakpo and Diaz to Gakpo and Rio a 16/ 17 year old boy who has played a few minutes here and there. This isn’t a dig at Rio by the way I like the lad. It’s just no competition for Gakpo who I think is very predictable.

09 Oct 2025 10:43:12
@TP, I guess you are one of the few posters referred by @Salamon who is posting the same thing over and over again 😁
You explained the same thing yesterday in another post. Though I agree with your opinion perhaps you should change your opinion and align with “lack of chemistry” and all you know lol 😂.

09 Oct 2025 12:42:44
Tbh, I would put hold up a mirror and maybe, just maybe, consider that the person was referring to you instead, Harry ;)

09 Oct 2025 13:46:46
Why are we heavily reliant on Salah TBB? We’ve just spent £300m on attacking talent who have been bought to take the reins from Salah. They haven’t even got started yet and you’re writing them off as ‘not the right profile’?

We tried to sign Guehi to take pressure off VVD but due to circumstances beyond our control it didn’t happen so we have to go with what we have until January. But what we have at CB just won a title so they can’t be that bad can they?

You’re in your own head too much TBB.

09 Oct 2025 14:45:12
OliRed, you say 'it's a small miracle we are here are' but a couple of days ago you told me that we are in 'pretty deep hole'.
Which is it?

09 Oct 2025 15:06:26
JK23 most would agree that we didn’t play that well and were slightly fortunate in those first 7 games hence I’d suggest we are ahead of sensible expectations. It will gel but will take longer than some are expecting.

09 Oct 2025 15:45:41
When we beat Bournemouth Salah was crying after the game. Of course it's affecting the players and everyone said it would in July but now we are in October some people think footballers are just robots and it shouldn't affect them anymore.

09 Oct 2025 16:30:02
Robbo - we may have signed £300m of attacking talent, but not one attacking player in our squad other than Salah is left footed. So if we're not going to play with someone cutting in (like Salah does) and change style, who exactly is going to play there? Chiesa is clearly not fancied and it doesn't look like it's going to be Frimpong from what I've seen, other than in an emergency. None of Isak, Ekitike or Wirtz play on the right either.

Some might say leaving the Guehi signing until the final day isn't the best planning.

We are short in both central defence and right wing.

09 Oct 2025 16:39:25
Sorry, no specs on.
OliRed, you say 'its a small miracle we are where we are' but then you tell me, a couple of days ago, that we are in 'pretty deep hole'.
Which is it?

09 Oct 2025 18:21:38
Wirtz007, you are definitely one of the main culprets! But then you are a city fan….

09 Oct 2025 20:29:33
Great original post @1jj and @TB2. It seems to be easy to forget that football players are actually just ordinary people, who have to do everyday things and who experience everyday ups and downs and emotions.

09 Oct 2025 21:02:06
Agreed 1jj.

10 Oct 2025 02:23:04
Not really related at all but i'm kind of curious why rigsby and jk23 dislike Oli so much, it's a little bit distracting haha.

10 Oct 2025 05:31:08
Not really sure why my comments would be a distraction to you Patrik.

But hey ho.

10 Oct 2025 07:51:33
PB, I find OliRed's posts condescending, hypocritical and some other things but I can't think of the words to describe them.
Maybe I shouldn't react as I do and as often as I do but it is the banter page. We're not all going to get on and we can take the pee out of each other, imo. It may not always come across well on the internet and in a face-to-face situation the way you say something or a facial expression can show that it's not really dislike for a person.
I've no dislike for anyone because I don't know them well enough.
And I don't want to be on Oli's ignore list.

10 Oct 2025 09:56:47
Okay lads, just wondering whether there was some longstanding vendetta that went back years and years, maybe I'm the only one who's as curious as I am.

10 Oct 2025 11:59:05
Nah, Oli gets on my nerves but that's my problem not his.
I think I've insulted every Liverpool player that I've ever watched, at some point, but it doesn't mean that I don't like them or don't want them to succeed.
I actually enjoy JK and Oli's exchanges (even if it is just Oli saying I'm not talking to JK) but my sense of humour is too close to the bone, at times.

10 Oct 2025 12:39:52
@PB, I can categorically state, without doubt, that there are a lot of curious people on this forum.

09 Oct 2025 00:28:00
A bit of positivity amongst the doom and gloom of recent losses: Ratcliffe has just verbally backed Amorim for 3 more years.

09 Oct 2025 06:08:18
The dreaded vote of confidence.

Remember when he said the club were close to running out of money and had to sack all the minimum wage staff and then spunked about 400 million on new players.

09 Oct 2025 08:22:05
Wasn't liverpool the only club to spend close to half a billion? I though United spent just over 200?

09 Oct 2025 09:01:25
Dio Radcliffe said it a couple of windows ago mate.

Not sure on exact spend but just threw that number out as an estimate.

Either way it was significant for a club that had ran out of money.

Point being I don’t believe a word he says.

09 Oct 2025 09:45:27
Darwin pls, tell me that info is fake. Cos if it's real then, relegation beckons for these guys WAY quicker than I thought.

09 Oct 2025 10:24:06
I don’t think that’s the first time Ratcliffe has told a lie!

09 Oct 2025 10:52:53
I that how long it will take him to save up the severance package using the wages of the 100s of other club staff he got rid of?

09 Oct 2025 14:14:31
Take anything they say with a pinch of salt, if they went on to lose the next 5 matches, he's out. I'd like to believe the nonsense he speaks because we'd see them go to the lowest of the low but it's not going to happen.

09 Oct 2025 14:23:40
They ( Utd) are still a money making machine, imagine if they didn’t have to pay the glazers loan off?

09 Oct 2025 14:26:35
JK23 it was around 207 million give or take no where near 400 million. At the time Jimmy made that statement it was confirmed United had in the region of 150 million in a account somewhere which apparently is a lot for a football club in that type of account. United are a limited company all their finances are available to the general public. United is the biggest cash cow in the league they finished 14th and had a record breaking season regarding the income. HE lied United will always be able to spend they are massive world wide. That will reduce if they stay where they were last season but not for a good while.

09 Oct 2025 15:18:34
Dio Radcliffe said it in September 2024 and they then spent around 30 million in Jan on Dorgu and around 213 in summer.

So yes you are correct it was nowhere near 400 mill.

The point i was trying to make though was don’t believe a word he says.

09 Oct 2025 15:47:05
How much money did United recoup from sales?

09 Oct 2025 17:15:16
Google it.

08 Oct 2025 23:35:27
You know it’s a slow week when outlets are reporting (club x) have “moved ahead” of (club y)
Semanyo (caught offside via BBC gossip)

Phew?

Only wish ed02 was still around to correct us all. 😂.

08 Oct 2025 21:56:30
10 years ago today, Klopp started a new chapter for the club. With his famous line "We have to change from doubters to believers, now"

Open question for the floor and honestly not looking for a fight lol

Just interested in what that sentence, that rallying cry means to you?

What does it mean to be a believer?

Is it blind faith as the boat sinks to the bottom of the ocean, is it steadfast backing of the team and the process?

Or do you prefer to remain a doubter.

And if so, what does that mean for you and how you support the club?

For me, being a believer means believing in the culture of the club, how we operate is the best model to keep us competitive at the top over the long term.

Amongst other things this includes the profile of player we sign, the coaching group, our playing style, how connected the fans are to the team are all as important factors to me that connect me to the club despite being oceans apart.

So whilst there may be blips along the way, I believe in the journey, doing it the right way and that these blips are necessary steps towards our ultimate goal each season which is to be competing for trophies at the end of each season. Obviously we want to be winning them too :)


How bout you!?

08 Oct 2025 23:12:29
Might add too - for me, being a believer means that I'm not inclined to defer course just because we don't win a trophy. You can do all the right things and ultimately not win every trophy, or even a trophy.

If all the ingredients are there then I'll be right back there next season backing the club to make the next step!

Now if trends develop like they did under Rodgers, Hodgson etc then that's a different story because that is when I start to stop believing in what we're doing and can feel the synergy not quite there and we're primed for a change!

08 Oct 2025 23:21:31
I remember having a conversation with a mate of mine who’s a Spurs fan years ago, must’ve been around 2011-2012.

We hadn’t won the league 20 odd years and were in the midst of the Hicks/ Gillette troubles and Roy Hodgson era. Spurs were, well they’re Spurs.

I asked him if he thought Spurs would win the league in his lifetime and he said no. He said he supports them but doesn’t expect them to win the league or the champions league although he hopes they’ll surprise him.

He then asked ‘Why? Do you honestly believe Liverpool will win the league again in your lifetime? ’ I was a bit confused by the question because in my mind we are the greatest club in England and will always win major trophies even though we were going through a tough time. I answered ‘absolutely! We’ll win loads of leagues and champions leagues in my lifetime’.

That for me is the difference.

To believe is not just to say you believe it’s to feel it. It’s to know it. I’m so proud I was born a red and no matter what happens I will always believe in and trust in this club. I accept you can’t win all of the time but I always know the club and the fans will always pull us back to success and I understand my role in that as a fan.

That’s why I can’t stand it when we lose a couple of games and some so called fans start blaming everyone right down to the tea lady. It’s football, we will always lose some games but it’s the belief that we’ll ultimately be successful that will pull us all through.

08 Oct 2025 23:35:39
"Klopp believer to Arne doubter"

09 Oct 2025 00:19:03
To be fair, Robbo, we have always had recent memories of glory days to fall back on when we are not winning. Spurs fans still hark on about Ricky Villa.

09 Oct 2025 01:13:10
For me it was a rallying call to the crowd and I remember a couple of early incidents that illustrated the point.
In an early game at Anfield - can’t even remember the game - we weren’t playing well and we weren’t winning. Some of the crowd left early after 78 mins. Klopp immediately called it out and couldn’t believe people were leaving with 12 mins to go, he almost shamed them in post-game interviews.

Then I remember a terrible game against WBA at Anfield. We were losing 2-1 in injury time and Big Div scored an equaliser. The crowd obviously went crazy but at the end of the day it was a draw at home versus WBA.

Klopp made the players line up and celebrate with him in front of the Kop. He got some abuse for it externally for celebrating a draw at home versus WBA. But for me, this was Klopp forming a connection with the crowd and the players. Almost saying, believe in us, stick with us to the bitter end and we can achieve greatness.

Then obviously there were the incredible games against Norwich 4-5 and Dortmund at home.

Those amazing tight finishes which Klopp celebrated like he was ‘the goalscorer’ all fed into the ‘doubters to believers’ story.

It was a rallying call to the supporters to wake up from our recent slumber and drive the team on to greatness.

09 Oct 2025 04:35:32
Yeah, the celebration at the end of the WBA game for me felt more like he wanted to thank the fans for staying all the way until the end, rather than the team celebrating the draw. That was at the very beginning of his tenure, I think and also what brought him closer to the fans and made him feel like he was one of us.

09 Oct 2025 04:58:59
I mean give us something to believe. Klopp came in and the changes and things he did changed fans minds. There was progress, there was vision, there were the building blocks of us improving. Right now it feels like we’re regressing - want us to believe? Give us something to believe in. Dreary possession based, slow football game after game, whilst continually shipping goals, ain’t it. We are not the UK’s most successful team because we blind ourselves to mediocrity. The team needs to show fight, work rate, desire to give everything for the shirt - they aren’t showing that. Say what you want about Trent but he did have passion, he did have fight - time for the players and coaches to stand up and he counted.

09 Oct 2025 05:48:40
Regressing? That guy just won us the league few months ago.

I agree that something is wrong. The games we won weren't great, and we lost a few already.

But regressing? Come on man.

09 Oct 2025 07:02:25
I must say that this site has been so boring in the last few weeks! People slagging off the manager and the team non stop. Don’t get me wrong, I understand constructive criticism but some people on here ain’t supporters. It’s embarrassing to be honest. Please turn it in! Also some of the stuff that gets posted is a joke! Surely there needs to be more of a filter! It’s the same people again and again too. Let’s just try and be more positive hey.

09 Oct 2025 07:40:28
What harm are the doom and gloomers causing with their posts.

I don’t agree with the majority of posts on here but i don’t believe it makes me right and them wrong. They just have a different opinion to me.

If people get offended by what a stranger posts who they will likely never ever meet in their lifetime then maybe the internet isn’t the place for them.

Nothing of what we think or post has zero bearing on the club mind.

I personally enjoy reading all the posters (except 1) posts be it the world is ending to the most positive and everything in between.

This site wouldn’t be the same if everyone had the same opinion.

09 Oct 2025 08:18:57
I agree to a point JK but some of it is complete and utter nonsense! Same people, same rubbish being posted again and again! It just makes it a little tiresome!

09 Oct 2025 08:27:05
Salmon I agree mate. But I chuckle at some of the posts.

Some of them you can actually tell who the poster is before you get to sentence 2.

Some of my best banter is with my mates over their support for other clubs. If people want to be cup half full or half empty then I say leave them too it.

09 Oct 2025 08:36:10
JK23, do you not see the irony in saying "if people get upset by random posters perhaps the internet isn't for you? " and then in the same post carry on your vendetta against a particular poster?

I enjoy yours and your rivals posts, because you both speak intelligently and tend to back up what you're saying with a clear thought process, but this internet goading is getting a bit silly now.

As for the original post, I believe klopp was just trying to get the fans to shift their mentality from "we've sucked for ages, I doubt we're going to improve any time soon" to "if we give our full support at all times, maybe it'll give the players that extra 5% that we need to start winning consistently". We can all sing when we're winning, but it takes belief to carry a team through rough patches. It seems quite relevant at the moment with the amount of doubters that have appeared on here after a few close defeats.

{Ed078's Note - stop talking sense RP, it'll never catch on.

09 Oct 2025 08:44:06
Fans of the club will get behind it, no matter how disgruntled they get.
Fans of winning, the bandwagon jumpers will throw the toys out of the pram as soon as the winning stops and start abusing all and sundry connected to the club.
It's quite easy to discern between the 2.

09 Oct 2025 08:51:50
@salmon monkey!

My father was just 18 years old when the Second World War broke out, he spent the next six years away from home, in El Alamein, Sicily, Monte Cassino, Italy and Rome, the war when he reached Germany was thankfully coming to an end.

One of the many things he was standing for was "Freedom of Speech" none or any of your Ilk will "EVER" stop me from expressing "My Freedom of Speech" Full Stop.

09 Oct 2025 08:56:06
If you have already made up your mind on what you wish to read or listen, what is the point of coming to the site @SalmonMonk.
And that’s exactly why some of the posters don’t bother to turn up on the main page and stick to the Live chat.

09 Oct 2025 09:12:20
Rugby no not at all mate. I don’t get upset over it. It’s just a bit of banter on a banter site. I’d happily meet up with any poster at a game for a pint and have arranged to a few times on the live chat.

Some poster (s) like to hold others accountable and dish it out. I’m just doing the same back. Like you’ve just done to myself.

As far as the rest of your post I for one cannot wait for this team to click. Once it happens I think teams could be in for some hammerings. But with a glass half full point of view I don’t think it’s going to Happen soon.

Actually I see us doing a PSG. I think we’ll get through to next round CL maybe end up playing the play off game and peaking around Xmas time onwards and possibly getting that no 7 big ears.

09 Oct 2025 09:43:16
Whether I'm a doubter or believer come purely down to how we play, win, lose or draw. Klopp made me a believer, so did Slot last season. My belief is wavering not because we lost 3 on the trot, but because we have player terribly all season so far even when we were winning. My belief remains though because Slot has shown throughout his career he is adaptable. I believe he can turn it around, at which point those poor performance wins will be invaluable, rather than the beginning of a regression.

09 Oct 2025 09:51:24
"If you are fine with things not working out then, you can go for it"


Jurgen Norbert Klopp.


@Faith, that is one of the greatest lessons Klopp ever taught me.

Love the guy, worts and all.

09 Oct 2025 10:15:54
“Warts” and all.

Never question my English apparently.

09 Oct 2025 11:11:24
Hehehe, it's almost like you deliberately set that one up Oli!

Fair enough lads, if your bickering occasionally gives me a chuckle like it did there, then I guess I shouldn't criticise.

I think you could be right JK, a later-season surge could work well in our quest for number 7, but the worrying thing is PSG could afford to start slowly in the French league because they have very little competition, whereas we don't have that luxury.

I trust that Slot will be studying footage of our last few games very closely over the international break and we'll destroy utd when the league restarts.

09 Oct 2025 14:28:25
Lol JK, no need to guess who your “except 1” poster is, mate! 😁👌 We’ve all got one. That said, I’ve probably got a few now - the obvious one, Harry, and Leeks’ new account. As soon as I see their posts, the gobsh*te radar goes off and I just scroll on by.

Most on here are sound though - even when we don’t all agree, it’s more funny than anything.

09 Oct 2025 14:38:09
RP, let's be clear. Not bickeing with anyone a.

09 Oct 2025 14:39:15
I didn't know your father was German, 007.

09 Oct 2025 14:43:09
Sorry, RP. Pressed send too soon.

Just to be clear, I don't bicker with those who's opinions I do not and will never care for. Please, recognise the difference.

09 Oct 2025 15:22:02
Oli don’t be like that mate.

You’re starting to remind me of my wife.

She doesn’t like me or watch Liverpool games either.

09 Oct 2025 16:52:00
Salah, you forgot me!
Only joking, mate. I think I've agreed with your past half dozen posts, as it goes. You must be doing something wrong 😂.

OliRed, whose opinions I do not and will never care for.
Sorry, I couldn't resist 😂.

09 Oct 2025 18:25:54
Agreed, most people are spot on and the chat and banter is great. I’ve been on here for years. Let’s just say those with the James Bond penchant post a lot of utter waffle 🤣🤣.

09 Oct 2025 18:55:30
My apologies Oli, and fair play, you gave up responding to JK a fair while ago.

In the words of someone, at some point, "can't we all just get along? "

09 Oct 2025 23:30:08
OP, from the early 1960’s up to now I have wanted Liverpool to win every game they have played.

From the late 60’s up to the end of the 1980’s I thought that if we played as well as we were capable of we would win.

About half way through Jurgen’s first season until now I’ve thought that if we played as well as we are capable of then we would win. Not sure if that makes me a believer or not but I think it probably does.

10 Oct 2025 10:25:17
Salah agree mate. I remember back in the day we had a heated exchange mate 🤣.

Top bloke and poster though.

Definitely a LFC banter page night out is in the works.

10 Oct 2025 13:20:28
Sorry, my post was meant for the thread immediately below this one - the 10 year anniversary of Jurgen joining.