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24 Mar 2017 22:09:32
Word in the grape vine is that dembele of Celtic has turned down another offer to join Chelsea as he is seeking regular football elsewhere, in your opinion eds are we an option he could go for I we are to make an offer obviously, and do you think he would be a replacement for origi who is growing frustrated at non regular football? Would dembele be our only striker signed in your opinion?


{Ed002's Note - No. He wants a guarantee of being first pick and that won't suit most clubs. I had no idea about Origi's frustration. If Klipperty is so stupid to offer that to him it is obviously an option.}

1.) 25 Mar 2017 00:05:03
I can see us offering him first pick as at this moment we do not have an out and out first choice striker, we do in origi, but it's obvious klopp does not have full trust in him, dembele would be a good buy imo but not as our main man, but who knows what zee German has planned.

2.) 25 Mar 2017 08:40:04
Surely Firmino is our first choice striker. I'm basing this on the fact that when fit he starts as our striker. Hence being first choice.
So not sure where the idea that we don't have a first choice striker comes from.

3.) 25 Mar 2017 08:59:21
Would love DEmbele at the club. Would cost close to 30 million but from what i have seen, he is a pure striker who knows how to score all sorts of goals. Sure, Firmino and Origi have their plus points but neither are prolific and every top team needs a pure finisher in their squad.

4.) 25 Mar 2017 10:01:15
I think it will depend on outgoings.
If Coutinho is sold, that leaves space for a first team player.

5.) 25 Mar 2017 13:06:30
Either Firmino or Coutinho are possible outgoings this summer, depending on whether we get into the CL.

And we don't know whether the interest in Coutinho from PSG will turn into an actual offer that is acceptable- especially given his very poor performances since his injury.

But if Firmino was moved into a slightly deeper role, Klopp might like the option of playing a dedicated and good quality lone striker, and going back to the 4231 he often used at Dortmund.

But to promise Dembele that he will start in x number of games per season (regardless of his form) would in my opinion be a major mistake.
A manager always has to keep the ultimate option of dropping any player who is not performing, for whatever reason.

6.) 25 Mar 2017 17:05:00
Scoring for fun in Scotland is one thing but stepping up to the premier league is another.

7.) 25 Mar 2017 22:40:37
30 million for a proven striker in the championship and Scottish premiership, I'd rather buy him from Southampton for 55 million when he's done it in the premiership.

8.) 26 Mar 2017 09:16:52
Firminio is not a natural striker. Let Coutinio go to Barcelona and let firminio drop back in as an AM. Spend cash on dembele (if that's the best option available) and use the remainder of the cash to add more quality to the squad.

9.) 26 Mar 2017 09:16:52
Firminio is not a natural striker. Let Coutinio go to Barcelona and let firminio drop back in as an AM. Spend cash on dembele (if that's the best option available) and use the remainder of the cash to add more quality to the squad.

10.) 26 Mar 2017 11:47:06
Surely it isn't where but how he is scoring that should be the decider. A player who gets in the right places at the right time and takes the chances will do that most places. Chances are being created every week, the problem is the players aren't always in the right place or don't have the natural finishers instinct. A player who does those adds to the team.

11.) 26 Mar 2017 14:02:20
Typical to just lay into Sturridge, huh?

{Ed001's Note - I don't get the hate for Sturridge, it is not his fault England were run by a moron with a chip on his shoulder and caused a bad injury that has affected him ever since. He is one of the most professional players we have ever had at the club, he just is nowhere near fit mentally. The club have not handled him well, pushing him into the team before sorting out his issues, then wondering why he doesn't perform at his best! Doesn't help that we have some fans so keen to abuse one of our best players for something that is not his fault.}

12.) 26 Mar 2017 16:21:15
I feel for Sturridge as he's as good as Aquero when he's fit (IMHO) and at his best and he's always conducted himself as a model pro, but the injuries have taken so much out of him that it's hard to argue against selling him and bringing someone else in.

13.) 26 Mar 2017 16:49:46
As good as aguero, lol that's a good one, milner is better than maldini at lb aswell.

14.) 26 Mar 2017 18:12:53
As a finisher Sturridge when he's fit and on form is as good.

15.) 27 Mar 2017 10:53:59
Sturridge is a wimp! Won't play with any sort of niggle. He's also lazy. Should have sold him in the summer we've had the best out of him.

{Ed002's Note - And there we go again - the so called Liverpool fans trashing the players. Maybe the team would do better if they did not have to put up with the sustained abuse from people like you?}

16.) 28 Mar 2017 11:53:32
That's football fans for you're everywhere, Ed. Not just Liverpool fans. Primarily, we respond to what we see on the pitch rather than rumours behind closed doors about his mental state, which I'll take your word for.

No doubt, Sturridge is a top player when fit. But that seems to be increasingly few and far between these days. If anything, I'd say most fans have been pretty patient with him.

Me, I like him a lot. Clearly not ideal for the way Klopp sets up but is clearly our best finisher and had never done anything to make me question his character or attitude.

{Ed002's Note - No, the Liverpool fans are by a mile the worst. Sturridge will move on in the summer, I have no doubts. Then there can be someone else for the fans to trash.}



16 Mar 2017 15:20:16
Afternoon eds, would it be safe to say that Moreno, sturridge, Lucas, Sakho, and can will be expected to be sold this window? I think they all need a fresh start somewhere else, also do you think anymore will be going? And who do you expect us to replace them with? That being if we are to finish top 4 as to some of the injuries we have had so far, our squad looks very thin!


{Ed002's Note - I would expect Mamadou Sakho, Lazar Markovich, Lucas Leiva, Daniel Sturridge, Albert Moreno and Adam Bogdan to leave. I suspect Simon Mignolet will need to think hard about his future and Danny Ward will likely be forced to do the same. Alex Manninger is out of contract but a new one year deal might be possible. Some of the youngsters will need to decide if they have any future at the club and offers could potentially arrive for players such as Philippe Coutinho. I have already made clear where the club are showing interest in players.}

1.) 16 Mar 2017 23:15:26
I think you can also add Flanagan, Brannagan, Kent, Jones, Randall, Awoniyi, Wisdom, Williams and perhaps even Stewart to that list.



03 Mar 2017 20:02:34
There has been strong interest put in place for Napoli's forward Lorenzo insigne. Expect a few meetings with his representatives pretty soon.


1.) 04 Mar 2017 11:24:34
Highly doubt it as we are scouting Brandt, Napoli will price him beyond our reach, The player prefers a move to Arsenal in case he steps out from Napoli.
That being said he is an excellent winger.

2.) 04 Mar 2017 11:46:02
No thanks, Italians don't travel very well.

3.) 04 Mar 2017 15:29:57
Said Ravanelli, Cudicini, Di Matteo, Carbone, Festa, Lombardo, Vialli, Maccarone, Di Canio, Zola.

4.) 04 Mar 2017 15:36:51
Maybe Aquilani and Balotelli didn't, but there's plenty who have. Zola, Vialli, Ravanelli, Di Matteo, Carbone, Di Canio and Southampton's new striker Manolo Gabbiandini has hit the floor running.

5.) 04 Mar 2017 16:00:20
Isigne is a fantastic player. Would love him at Liverpool. Highly doubt it happening, though.

6.) 06 Mar 2017 00:27:00
Actually Maccarone was a flop at Boro, Ravanelli caused problems at Boro and kicked off until he left, Carbone caused problems until he was allowed to leave Sheffield Wednesday, DiCanio caused problems on and off the pitch wherever he went.

The only ones who've really done well are Zola and DiMatteo, Vialli was moderately successful and Cuddicini was happy picking splinters out of his bum.
Insigne would be too much of a risk, I think if presented with Burnley on a cold November evening he'd simply not fancy it, there's better options available out there.



05 Feb 2017 21:21:55
Evening, don't know if you have already seen but what do you make of the alleged leaked emails of John W Henry? Cheers.


1.) 06 Feb 2017 03:26:30
Nothing at all - they talk about the club being available for a steal, but that's not a steal from the fans. it's simply referring to the ability to buy it cheap from G&H because they were in trouble after running the place into the ground. Why should we care if they thought the price was a steal from those grubs?

They also rightly point out the value in the name and brand, the fact it hasn't previously been making any money from the international fans/ website, and explicitly mentions investing in the stadium and bringing in the best and brightest to run the club.

The references to administration and docking points were that it was unpalatable and that they liked the Liverpool team after they met them. nothing in those mails points to anything other than the view Liverpool was an attractive opportunity and available on the cheap because it underinvested in before. We all knew that at the time.

2.) 06 Feb 2017 12:35:41
Good post zimbo. Sick to death of the owner bashing on here and online etc. people need to wake up and grow up. Fsg have pumped millions into the club and klopp also had funds available which he decided not to use. 3 points against spurs please YNWA.

3.) 06 Feb 2017 16:31:57
Two of the best posts I've read in a while and I thank you both .

4.) 07 Feb 2017 17:05:40
Spot on, boys. Nothing to see here, per emails. Just nothing-burger for their haters to have a bite at. When LFC is struggling and the moaners can't slate Klopp or the players, they default position is to attack the owners. Why? They are easy targets and it's not like they can defend themselves, can they?



09 Jan 2017 11:30:27
Tiago Ilori has signed a contract with reading and has completed his £3.75m move


1.) 09 Jan 2017 15:32:47
Good luck to him

2.) 09 Jan 2017 19:52:11
Good business all round. Hopefully Tiago can get his career back on track and we even managed to turn a small paper profit on someone who played 3 games for us.

3.) 09 Jan 2017 21:29:20
Thought we paid £7m for him?

4.) 09 Jan 2017 22:24:58
We haven't made a profit, quite a significant loss. 7 million to buy, wages etc.

5.) 09 Jan 2017 22:38:54
He was bought at £3.5m

6.) 10 Jan 2017 09:50:40
TM reports the purchase fee was £6.38m, but whatever, no point getting bogged down with figures. The main thing is he can finally get his career back on track. Hope he becomes a real success, and not just because of the reported 35% sell-on clause. ;)

7.) 10 Jan 2017 12:11:15
The 7 mill was based over clauses the initial outlay was much less.

8.) 10 Jan 2017 13:39:47
Only mentioned paper profit. We paid £3.5m for him as per another poster above, with add ons potentially bringing that to £7m. Given he only played 3 games, the add ons weren't ever required.

Of course we paid wages, fees etc, but we have so often over the last 10-15 years made significant losses on our 'gambles' when other teams often make profits or break even. I am glad that in the last couple of windows we have started achieving much better sell on prices for players that are no longer part of our plans (Benteke, Ibe, Smith, Ilori etc) as this ultimately benefits our finances.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool paid €7.5M for Ilori before any add ons. They then paid taxes (€1.125M), a signing on fee, agent fees, €375k FA registration, Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable, legal fees, relocation costs, wages, insurance ..... the loan fee of £350k from Aston Villa was repaid by Liverpool - I don't see any "paper profit".}

9.) 10 Jan 2017 14:09:16
Fair enough, Ed002. It appears the papers have it wrong (as usual! ) as they are reporting that we paid £3.5m as a transfer fee before add ons.

My point was merely that we don't seem to be getting as badly stung in the market when selling on players as we have done in the past, which is a good thing.

{Ed002's Note - The figure I gave was what Liverpool registered on the TMS.}

10.) 10 Jan 2017 19:54:12
Reading for promotion then 😇

11.) 11 Jan 2017 08:39:57
Yeah and the registered fee for Sakho at the same time was £16.15. So I'd expect Liverpol to accept something close enough tho that rather than the £20 that is being reported.

{Ed002's Note - The registered fee is not in £. Sorry.}




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15 Mar 2017 13:00:16
Julian brandt will sign for Bayern Munich ahead of Liverpool!


1.) 15 Mar 2017 13:26:25
So. Maybe klopp will target a player who actually offers us something different than the 700 number 10s we currently have.

Its like cou, adam and rob all play where theu play becauze we have to fit them all in

In an ideal world we only need one of them in the number 10 position

Hendo gini
Mane firmino/ adam/ phil xxxx

Only adams probably playing his preferred position.

I don't even think mane was first choice last summer so kaybe our second choice this yest will be betyer suited to our needs. 😊.

2.) 15 Mar 2017 14:15:02
He's a wide player with pace not like we need him lol . He's the sort of player we need.

3.) 15 Mar 2017 14:44:13
Super, Brandt is not a number 10!

4.) 15 Mar 2017 14:49:28
Not fussed to be honest.
He won't solve our defensive problems.

5.) 15 Mar 2017 15:14:03
Great, bet we end up with Rafa silva 😩.

6.) 15 Mar 2017 15:22:05
Have I missed something ed with Brandt? Few peopke crying he's off to Bayern.

{Ed002's Note - There are other sides interested in Brandt as well. But as I have said if Liverpool really want to make it happen they need to put the effort in right now. Bayern are looking at both right and left wingers right now because they are aware that two other sides have spoken with Juventus about Kingsley Coman and Juve would rather he moved elsewhere rather than to Bayern on the cheap, and Douglas Costabeing a pain in the neck over contractual demands at the moment. Ribery and Robbenm have had short extensions and then will leave - Bayern thought they had the future already in place but right now they are having to look around. And there is still another Premier League side interested in Brandt as well.}

7.) 15 Mar 2017 15:27:11
Erm, it's SportsBild. Or have I missed anything?
I mean, it's like getting a tanctrum because "Marca says Real Madrid are in advanced discussions with a chap called Messi. "

8.) 15 Mar 2017 16:08:12
Brandt seems a decent young player already fulfilling his potential so I wouldn't have seen him as such as risk as oppose to other youngsters that are more obvious risks that would cost around about the same fortune Brandt would. He's not a number 10 either which is exactly the type of wide forward we need at the minute, but I don't think he should be our only top target, if he is then we aren't preparing well for the summer yet again. I wouldn't be too disappointed if we didn't get him unless the next option is way below his level like Gray for example, who apparently we are also interested in or yet another number 10 like gotze.

Having said that it's no surprise that we haven't acted early and other more attractive clubs have came in with the swoop, this is what we do, we are the wingman. we don't get target A, we get target B or C lol.

9.) 15 Mar 2017 16:34:45
Problem is Ron, we are not actually targeting anyone to "solve" the defence problems.

10.) 15 Mar 2017 17:37:05
I know Ko Lo, still no point in frittering more money away buying players for the sake of it.
At some point the penny might drop and we might realise we have defensive problems, not attacking problems.

11.) 15 Mar 2017 19:01:09
I think we should be concentrating on defensive players as a priority it's no good having all the offensive talent in the world, when you can't stop the ball going in the other end.

12.) 15 Mar 2017 19:15:52

1. We have problems in Defense. Clyne is poor, Milner is playing out of his skin but we can't expect him to get better. Lovren is so so and Matip is the best we have which totally is 1.5/ 4 for the 4 positions.

2. We have too many attackers but of average quality.

Only Mane and Couts (when on form) are very good.
Henderson is solid when he plays.
It's like 2.5 or 2 good out of 4.

Firminio, Adam and Wijnaldum are one tier below.

3. No fit strikers. Origi is still potential.
Sturridge is good but he is always injured or doesn't suit Klopps style of play.

4. Less said about both Gk's the better.

The less we think of the team the better. They look like we need complete overhaul and another season in transition.


13.) 15 Mar 2017 21:31:26
Supermane, from what Ed002 said it would seem our second choice for the left wing/ forward position is possibly Rafa Silva, with Jacob Murphy or Malcom being further down the wish list.

Whilst I disagree with you on Brandt (who is a left winger/ forward by trade) I do agree that our second choice may be the better player. Rafa Silva (assuming he is second choice) is far more first team ready than Brandt in my opinion.

14.) 15 Mar 2017 21:41:38
Hope we don't end up with Oxlade Chamberlain.

15.) 15 Mar 2017 21:43:12
Kol Lo, yes we are. We are interested in the Schalke CB Nastasic and the FB Ricardo Pereira (who can play RB or LB) and are looking to move Clyne if possible, for another RB to come in. As for Brandt, not sure if I believe this story but we must move quickly if he's the guy we want.

I won't be surprised if he went to Bayern as that is what young German players mostly do just like Nicklas Sule and Sebsatian Euddy (young talents from Hoffenheim) have signed for Bayern already for next season. I'm sure Klopp has other names on his scouting sheet so as long as who he brings in will improve us, not too bothered who he is.

16.) 15 Mar 2017 23:50:31
Lol Dennis, There is a good chance we might end up with Milner version 2.



11 Mar 2017 12:09:07
So I am assuming origi will start against Burnley tomorrow due to firmino and Sturbridge being out injured, I think this is exactly what the kid needs, his time to shine, you can't always make an impact coming on at 70-80mins, origi to bag a goal.


1.) 11 Mar 2017 12:16:20
My mistake sturridge.



26 Feb 2017 16:34:46
Evening eds, not really a fan of dooming our own players but apart from the obvious departures of sakho and possibly Lucas? Who do you think in your opinion needs to move on, for me I don't see sturridge and can being here in augest, also not sure if Ines would benefit in a loan move when he's fit, cheers.


{Ed002's Note - I expect Sturridge will go in addition to Sakho and Lucas. Lazar Markovich and Simon Mignolet would likely move on and Ward has a decision to make.}

1.) 26 Feb 2017 17:21:27
Come summer, I wouldn't be surprised to see the likes of Randall, Williams, Brannagan, Kent, Awoniyi move along in addition to Mignolet, Moreno, Lucas, Sturridge, Sakho, Markovic, Bogdan and Flanagan, and perhaps even Emre Can.

Perhaps loans for Wilson, Ward and Allan.

2.) 26 Feb 2017 20:20:18
Spot on ag personally I'd put lovren and clyne on there but I doubt klopp will.

3.) 26 Feb 2017 21:55:42
Do we have any interest in a mignolet replacement? Also I think a new goalkeeping ciach may be needed?

{Ed002's Note - It will depend on Ward.}

4.) 27 Feb 2017 00:45:02
I would add Emre Can also in that list which will be a late transfer.

5.) 27 Feb 2017 07:09:02
Ed002 if you're around, where do you see Sturridge going if he does leave? Appreciate your input!

6.) 27 Feb 2017 07:54:58
Agree AG but suspect Klopp will keep Can to see how he develops over another season before making a decision.

7.) 27 Feb 2017 11:28:24
I agree with your list, AG. Emre? I'll believe it when I see it.



21 Feb 2017 22:36:08
If mario gotze does make the move to Liverpool in your opinion who is most likely to be put aside for him, surely he is being bought to be a first team player.


{Ed001's Note - why does he have to be a first team player?}

1.) 22 Feb 2017 07:41:51
I'm sorry but is it just me who thinks gotze is very overrated? Haven't seen loads of his games but the ones I have he's been bang average. but klopp nows the player I suppose so we must trust his judgment. Now if we were interested in rues I'd be one happy man going in to next season .

2.) 22 Feb 2017 09:56:01
He won't want to come and sit on the bench will he ed?

{Ed001's Note - maybe not, but I don't see any way of getting him in the team.}

3.) 22 Feb 2017 10:09:04
Ozil part 2.

4.) 22 Feb 2017 10:21:20
Hi Ed,

Are we definitely back in for Götze again?


{Ed001's Note - not that I know of.}

5.) 22 Feb 2017 10:34:09
I just can't see any deal being done for him if he is to sit on the bench and wait for a injured lallana or coutinho?

6.) 22 Feb 2017 13:52:34
We do not need another attacking midfielder. haven't we learnt our lesson from afcon?

7.) 22 Feb 2017 14:17:07
Eds I presumed with all the talks of him that something had been said that we are again looking at him lol. The whole conversation is a waste then now youve put it to bed lol.

{Ed001's Note - not that I know of. He is just out of favour and looking to leave, Klopp knows him well, so stories come out adding 2 and 2 together. It is pure guesswork as usual.}

8.) 22 Feb 2017 14:55:20
Ok mate fair enough. I prefer Brandt tbh over him. Do you? All thoigh Real are interested I see now.

{Ed001's Note - no idea not seen enough of Brandt to judge him.}

9.) 22 Feb 2017 19:34:54
Nothing but recycled nonsense and making 2 and 2 equal 4, by the media as Ed said regarding MG. As for Brandt, I can tell you Ed that he is some player tho young, but is exactly what we need. He is fast, can play either side of the pitch, can shoot and score with either foot and a menace with his stellar dribbling ability. Saw him a lot at the Olympics where he and Max Meyer were really good.

10.) 23 Feb 2017 10:39:14
Goetze coming to us would only happen if either Firmino or Coutinho left.

11.) 23 Feb 2017 11:24:54
Over rated, we're trying to get rid of one fool we don't need another. He won't be coming, Klopps not that daft, surely.

12.) 23 Feb 2017 11:58:15
Would Gotze improve the first team options? On his last year's performances you'd have to say no. Maybe less an injury risk than Sturridge but hardly the same quality.



29 Jan 2017 19:12:33
5 new players I'd go for in the summer if I was klopp
Van dijk
Inalki Williams
Alex Sandro
Joe hart

That would be a successfully window in my eyes, and sell the likes of, Sturridge, Sakho, Lucas, Moreno, can


1.) 29 Jan 2017 19:38:30
Just for one, may I ask why Joe Hart? personally I think he's far from good enough for us.

2.) 29 Jan 2017 19:46:13
The 2 I would go for are
Titus Bramble
Emile Heskey
Lee Cattermole
Karl Henry
Joleon Lescott
Harry Kewell

That is 2 players, right?

3.) 29 Jan 2017 19:59:31
That's over 200 mil topoftheKOP I like Williams and carvalho but looks doubtful to me.

4.) 29 Jan 2017 19:59:47
About £ 200 million worth of talent in that selection Topofthekop. I take it you mean over 3 transfer windows and not all at once.

5.) 29 Jan 2017 20:16:57
Also around 60-70m on the players from sales, and I should of said 7 not 5 my mistake

6.) 29 Jan 2017 21:38:33
Sure there's 7 in that list not 5 😂

7.) 29 Jan 2017 22:02:37
The 10 new players I would go for is David Silva and Eden Hazard

8.) 29 Jan 2017 22:45:56
I would buy four new players - Lionel Messi

9.) 29 Jan 2017 23:15:15
To be fair messi is 4 players 😂

10.) 29 Jan 2017 23:26:42
I think only 5 of the names in the list are players 😄

11.) 30 Jan 2017 07:19:35
with being a hair dresser,60 -70m for who ever can guess that player is.

12.) 30 Jan 2017 08:51:27
Hilarious, i just love this site, but i digress, i agree with the op, sakho would have been a welcome addition during january. I agree you have to take your profession seriously ron, but who decides how serious you must be, is there some sort of seriousometer? Fact is he is a good footballer and has done the business when called upon. He has also publicly stated this weekend that he takes responsibility for his actions.

I understand what ed01 has said about him but i don't think his antics are a deal breaker especially when compared to the runt for example. I have sympathy for him but accept that it is over for him now and we must move on.

13.) 30 Jan 2017 16:16:09
Topofthekop, I highly doubt any of what you post will happen BUT one can only hope.




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29 Apr 2017 19:21:42
4-1-2-3 my bad.




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29 Apr 2017 13:13:30
I'd play a 4-2-2-3 in that case, firmino and coutinho through the middle, play brandt left wing and mane right wing, striker up front, lallana and wijinaldum behind counts and firmino.




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25 Mar 2017 00:05:03
I can see us offering him first pick as at this moment we do not have an out and out first choice striker, we do in origi, but it's obvious klopp does not have full trust in him, dembele would be a good buy imo but not as our main man, but who knows what zee German has planned.




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03 Mar 2017 17:10:44
More to do with new balence than to do with Liverpool football club.




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09 Jan 2017 22:38:54
He was bought at £3.5m





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11 Mar 2017 12:16:20
My mistake sturridge.




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28 Feb 2017 15:02:57
Difference being, he led them to the premier league and they are still in the champions league, with a chance of going through, what has klopp actually achieved? Even Rodgers did a better job, and kenny won a cup,




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26 Feb 2017 21:55:42
Do we have any interest in a mignolet replacement? Also I think a new goalkeeping ciach may be needed?


{Ed002's Note - It will depend on Ward.}



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22 Feb 2017 10:34:09
I just can't see any deal being done for him if he is to sit on the bench and wait for a injured lallana or coutinho?




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29 Jan 2017 20:16:57
Also around 60-70m on the players from sales, and I should of said 7 not 5 my mistake