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27 Sep 2018 08:58:50
It annoyed me the way Klopp berated Shaqiri in front of the cameras. It's not the first time he's done it to a player. That should be kept for the dressing room.


{Ed002's Note - You are right, he should not do it.}

1.) 27 Sep 2018 16:06:52
Yeah don’t get that Rudder? Even with extreme frustration with a player or with the result you deal with that in the changing room. Not seen Klopp do that before? Shaqs had a good game. Moreno however, now he deserved some hair dryer treatment. Perhaps he did.

2.) 27 Sep 2018 16:41:21
RR, I don't think it was about Shaq's overall performance, but apparently something about the last free kick. I totally agree though, save stuff like that for the dressing room - especially when concerning such a 'minor' detail.

3.) 27 Sep 2018 16:44:13
I also felt it a little harsh because overall, he had a pretty good performance.

4.) 27 Sep 2018 17:52:55
What did he say?

5.) 27 Sep 2018 18:48:38
Oh get over yourselves! Klopp goes a little bonkers in virtually every game it’s just it picked this one up for one player more obviously.

He’s a brilliant man manager - some people
Need an arm round their shoulder and some need a stronger arm. He knows what he’s doing.


6.) 27 Sep 2018 19:26:38
Please, the PC police need to take a chill pill, seriously. Klopp is not the first nor the last one to do that and he has explained what he was on about with Shaq and it was NOTHING to do with his overall performance which by the way, was decent. Klopp was pissed that Shaq did not do what he was told to do on the last free kick and that is IT and nothing more. Should he have done it? Prolly not BUT I don't see prob with it PROVIDED it was addressed in the post match n Klopp did that. Shaq is a big boy and should be able to handle that.

7.) 27 Sep 2018 20:06:05
Well said JJ.

8.) 27 Sep 2018 20:36:34
I resent the snowflake comment. It has nothing to do with that. Shaq has a good game so I don’t think he deserved a roasting immediately at full time.

I think your reactions show that you’re incapable of hearing a bad word said about klopp. Perhaps you are the #snowflakes?

9.) 27 Sep 2018 21:01:56
Didn't Henderson take the last free kick? Why did Klopp not have a go at his captain who obviously made the decision to hit it aimlessly into the kop end.

10.) 27 Sep 2018 21:02:25
True 87red, but he was given instruction and he didn't follow it. This has always been the worry with shaqiri. He is a great player, we all know that. I thought he was probably our best player. We have some great training ground moves on free kicks and I think salah was completely open. A fake and then a quick pass to salah and he would have been in the perfect position to curl one into the far corner.

If shaq is not going to follow instruction then I think the saying it to the camera was calculated. If shaq is going to be a part of this title push and ucl push then he needs to do what he is told and be a part of the team.

Although shaq had a good game I thought his final ball was pretty poor to be honest.

11.) 27 Sep 2018 22:11:27
Spot on, Mane. 87red, you are free to defend Shaq BUT you are defending Shaq on what did NOT happen. If Klopp (as he said) expected Shaq to do something on the free kick (something they obv. already worked on for this type of free kick at Melwood) and he did not do it then he is asking for Klopp wrath whether in public or in private. Again, should Klopp had done it like he did? Prolly not BUT I repeat, this is a nothing burger as managers have done this in the past, present and will continue to do so as football is an emotional game. This has nothing to do with whether someone ever has a bad word to say about Klopp cos we all know his flaws. Again IMO, This is a Nothing-burger that people are falling for it for no reason and I personally, am not falling for it.

12.) 27 Sep 2018 22:44:45
Cheers brover. Good to have you back mate BTW.

The loss comes down to our defence. We played our defence of two years ago who were easily the worst defence of the top 4, even top 6. Clyne is unpopular but I thought he was the only one who played well in that defence yesterday. Hazard must have looked at it and smiled.

Bring back Becker, van dijk, gomez, robbo and trent.

13.) 27 Sep 2018 22:46:27
Heat of the moment, emotions running high, probably happens all the time. I remember Klopp used to spend 89 minutes roasting Moreno when he first started 😄😄.

14.) 27 Sep 2018 22:56:21
This has absolutely nothing to do with either protecting Shaq or being against Klopp for giving reprimands to the players. Snowflakes? Give me a freakin' break.

For me Klopp, the players and virtually anyone involved can go as bunkers as they want to during the 90 minutes of football that is played, as much as they can show appreciation and joy. Players shout at each, managers shout at players or the refs, etc - that's what happens during a game. You know, in the end it's a way of communicating and make clear to anyone on the pitch that what is happening is not good enough and so on.

I simply just don't think that what happens after a game is for anyone to watch. Save it for the dressing room - I don't see how it helps anyone getting pointed out like that right out in the open. Especially not when he has to explain it like that afterwards. Just keep it cool, don't show off your frustrations when there isn't anymore football (that day) to play anyway.

15.) 28 Sep 2018 00:55:47
Please don't defend Klopp for it. i find it really wierd that kose is getting blamed for the same thing then klopp is getting praised? what u smoking media?

16.) 27 Sep 2018 23:25:12
I agree with most of that 1jj, nothing wrong with a manager lashing into a player. don't see whah he didn't wait till the dressing room though, suppose tempers are running h8gh after a defeat.

17.) 28 Sep 2018 08:57:15
Livebird Jose gets roasted for hammering his players in post match interviews not for shouting at the players directly.
When Klopp comes out says ‘I knew we were in trouble when VVD and Gomez had to take a penalty’ to a journo then I’ll have a problem with it. Telling a player off for not doing as he’s told is fine in my book.

{Ed025's Note - you know im a massive klopp fan bobby but for me that lacked a bit of class mate, more of a mourinho trait than what i expect of him to be honest..

18.) 28 Sep 2018 23:42:33
Sorry Ed25, comparing Mou's continuously shameless behavior with Klopp telling a player off for not doing what he was told, are two DIFF. things. It is such "both-siderism" foolishness (not saying you are foolish) that helped give rise to Trump in the States. As the French say, "Let's compare what is comparable". Klopp gave Shaq a dress down on the pitch cos he did not do what he was told. If a camera was put on a manager in every game, we would see that A LOT so for me, this is a nothing-burger that people want to dwell on for no reason. In fact, Klopp addressed it and praised Shaq for his perf. and called him a good boy. This is NOTHING like Mou and his shameless behavior and open warfare with Pogba proves that. Cheers, man.

{Ed025's Note - im not saying it was serious brover just that i would have liked him to do that behind closed doors mate, i dont want him compared to that self indulgent dionosaur in any way shape or form..



26 Aug 2018 13:34:37
Not a great spectacle yesterday evening but at the end of the day 3pts and a clean sheet is an absolute positive. Mane had an off day. Keita under hit a few passes yesterday and on Monday night but I think that's down to getting used to the pace of the premier league. Between Milner and Gini for MOTM for me. Roll on Leicester City.


1.) 26 Aug 2018 13:55:07
Coincidence that both those players never played in the World Cup?
A few players seem to be at different stages of fitness too.
The defence is looking much better, Gomez doing well.
And I love Alisson. A couple of minor harum-scarum moments but it comes with the territory.
A keeper full of confidence is much more important.
Three out of three will do me.

2.) 26 Aug 2018 14:40:16
Mane did play at the World Cup?

3.) 26 Aug 2018 15:04:47
I think he was referring to Gini and Milner. The two that Rudder said he thought it was between for MOTM.

4.) 26 Aug 2018 15:05:03
A bit of an off day, but Gini was fantastic and only missed one pass (98%! ) and Milner good again, so with our defence and midfield it only took one moment to seal the points (especially with Alisson’s exceptional save) .

On the down side it was a little concerning how we played the last 30 minutes, and we took our foot of the gas, and we gave them every chance to get back into things.

I think we really should have injected some urgency to midfield or out wide at around 60mins and given Shaqiri a run. Try sitting back like that against a better side and we perhaps would have been punished.



18 Jul 2018 16:18:29
Liverpool have now spent over £200 million in less than a year. PLEASE stop the whining.


1.) 18 Jul 2018 16:39:25
Certainly can’t say FSG lack ambition.

2.) 18 Jul 2018 17:27:14
Please can we just forget about the money. Let the accountants take care of it.

3.) 18 Jul 2018 19:13:38
Technically we bought VVD last year (27th December) and keita's was sorted last summer so funds sorted then ;)



01 Jul 2018 21:53:56
At this rate we'll have 50% of the keepers at the World Cup signed!


{Ed002's Note - That is the plan.}

1.) 01 Jul 2018 22:14:03
They would all be a massive upgrade.

2.) 02 Jul 2018 02:10:45
Ron 😱😱

What happened to all that famous positivity.

3.) 02 Jul 2018 02:42:19
Is the plan to play 11 goalkeepers?

4.) 02 Jul 2018 04:10:50
Isn't nueur 2nd choice at bayern? Why isn't someone snapping him up? Does he love bayern too much to leave. I think he'd add some security.

{Ed001's Note - why would you think he is second choice? He had a long term injury and missed most of the season because of that.}

5.) 02 Jul 2018 07:31:54
Ed001, I think PH was just messing. Don't think he was serious.




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29 Jul 2018 11:46:47
Look a Ed01's review about Fabinho. If I remember correctly he spoke about his speed. That he is deceptively fast and glides along the ground or words to that effect.




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18 Jul 2018 03:14:21
Its not happening. Another false dawn.





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01 Oct 2018 08:29:28
Yes Salah brilliantly! How many games has Henderson started?




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30 Sep 2018 10:19:49
I think it's more a case of doesn't rate him, which is a totally different thing.


{Ed001's Note - again not true, I do rate him, I just do not think he plays to his potential.}



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30 Sep 2018 10:18:05
Never ever ever ever ever will I have sympathy for the United fans. They have lorded it over Liverpool fans for nearly 3 decades. I know it won't happen but I hope they get relegated. I repeat I have zero sympathy for them.




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23 Sep 2018 22:06:07
Great review as usual, you call a spade a spade. Do you think Liverpool's improvement has anything to do with Buvac leaving and Pep Lijinders being more to the fore?


{Ed001's Note - I do think Buvac leaving has been a big part of it. While they worked well together there was constant friction between them, which is now gone.}



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22 Sep 2018 14:33:58
He's on the bench, can't be that serious if he is injured.