Liverpool banter 2

29 Apr 2024 09:53:34
We’ve lost 4 league games this term with a completely new midfield and we are all but certain of Champions League next season.

Of course no fan accepts just the one cup as ultimate satisfaction, particularly as it is the lowest ranking of the 4 but what were we really expecting at the start of season? If I tracked back and read the posts at the beginning, most of you thought we’d be mid table obscurity - simply somewhere like where the Red Devils ultimately find themselves (much to my happiness).

It's not a 'great' season by any means and a shame that it fell off towards the end, but the work to give it a run and to improve - somewhat with a fair amount of change and also with some very decent youth in the ranks too - for me it is okay and with something to build on!

Our new management inherits some decent talent and I am sure will want to bring in some of his own.

I for one will get behind Slot, but before that I will continue to get behind this manager and his squad and thank them for their efforts in what is the most challenging league in the world without compare!

YNWA.

29 Apr 2024 10:38:02
Well said MetroRed.

How quickly we forget. According to some sections of so called Liverpool supporters Klopp should have left two years ago and now because of the touchline spat at the weekend they want Salah, one of the Premier Leagues best of all time wingers who has broken most records gone in the summer.

99% of Premier League clubs in their entire history can only dream about winning what we have won under Kloop.

Thanks to these guys and all the others the numbers on the trophy wall had to be changed practically every season and for that I will be for ever thankful.

29 Apr 2024 10:49:36
You, like many others unfortunately, are talking absolute nonsense. We were such overwhelming favourites for the Europa League that many fans have now got plane tickets and hotels for Dublin that they need to shift. As an absolute bare mimimum this season I expected us to reach the final of the Europa League and take City and Arsenal right to the wire.

We spent roughly £160m (not even including add-ons) on a whole new midfield because it was universally accepted that we failed last season due to the decline of Henderson, Milner, Ox and Fabinho. We had the front line and the backline to go toe to toe with anyone, and we rectified the glaring weakness in the side.

We proved in the first 30 games of the season that we are good enough to compete for the title and win several trophies. Instead of all this revisionist nonsense, why can't people just accept that we've underachieved? It doesn't make you less of a supporter to call out the truth. It doesn't mean you are disrespecting Klopp's overall achievements to say that he's lost his edge. By his own admission he couldn't do this anymore. It's just a sad reality, but living in this fantasy land where 3rd and a Carabao Cup was the best we could've hoped for is delusional. Just ask all those lads who've now got a random holiday in Ireland next month.

29 Apr 2024 10:54:07
Yeah most of us would have taken that before the season started.
But also as the season went on it was obvious that the squad was capable of going all the way as well.
So I think it’s a bit bitter sweet, because we all know another title was possible with a bit more luck.

29 Apr 2024 11:08:08
Although I agree with you that a prem title was not an expectation. We were sitting on top a couple of weeks ago and the wheels have completely fallen off. So peoples frustration stems from the fact we had the title in our own hands and to put it bluntly, compitulated. I really thought this season was going to be full of emotion and full buy in from the team and fans for a manager that gave us fans and his players all he had. It has baffled me how things have turned out. At the start of the season I would have happily taken 4th place as a pass mark. I don't know how to process how the season is ending right now.

29 Apr 2024 12:02:18
Nothing Wrong with feeling disappointed with how things have turned out but also realising that we had over performed to get in that position. One question if arsenal had similar injuries to us do you think they would be challenging for the title now.

29 Apr 2024 12:35:02
I'd put a years wage on that most posters or fans didn't expect mid table obscurity at the start of the season.

I'd even go as far as saying i could probably name the 2 who would have thought it and that's Harry and Walter (both great posters with their unique opinions)

But there is absolutely no most about it.

29 Apr 2024 12:57:48
Sorry MK but personally I don’t see how fans can be mad if they have booked flights and hotels in expectation and then complain the team doesn’t get there. You take your chances - that’s the game and we all know that. Liverpool could have easily gone out on a ref howler rather than a turgid performance. There are any number of reasons why you can get knocked out of a cup competition and those lads would still need to enjoy their Irish holiday all the same.

29 Apr 2024 13:52:49
I don't think anyone thought third and the Carabao Cup was the best we could achieve. And I think anyone that thinks a place in the Europa Cup final is a bare minimum is delusional.
I think a lot of fans took a punt (pun intended) on flights and hotels because Dublin is so convenient.
Had the final been in Kazakhstan I don't think that would have been the case. Either way it was a gamble, it didn't pay off and nothing to do with the team.

29 Apr 2024 14:10:26
You're missing the point though lads. I'm not saying those fans have a right to be annoyed about their money, because they don't. It was their risk to take and I certainly wouldn't have gambled hundreds if not thousands on us winning it. What I'm saying that people planning their trips there months in advance is clear evidence that many people were expecting more from this team. Especially after the favourable draw put Leverkusen, Milan and Roma away from us until the final.

It's just a bare faced lie to say we all thought this team was only capable of a Carabao up. I read this site daily and we were as a collective very optimistic about this season. Last season was being called a blip after the Quad chase took it out of us. Even the Blue nose Ed025 was speaking in glowing terms about our signing of Mac Allister. Szoboszlai signing generated a huge amount of excitement. We were all saying Nunez could really kick on and Virgil was back to his best.

Why are people lying to themselves to defend our capitulation? It's flaky at best. Call a spade a spade.

29 Apr 2024 16:54:00
MKS, I see what you're saying. for me, it is perfectly normal to feel the ay fans are feeling about how the season panned out cos Im just as frustrated and pee'd off about it cos the issues we had were there to be addressed and were never addressed. We were not clicking offensively nor defensively at a consistent level and were rising above these issues by sheer will and desire, IMO. At some point, that's going to burn you a and the chickens have now come home to roost.

At the same time, people should not come on and start acting like they thought we were shoe-in's to challenge and win the title cos none of these "fans" were saying that at the time esp. after the whole Caicedo debacle. Many of us did not even know what we were going to be cos there was so many unknowns and you guessed it, Klopp said so himself when he was asked if he knew we would be this/ that good at the time. It is the lack of perspective and disingenuous revisionist history I cannot stand. One can't complain that we won't challenge for the title in preseason and then when we do and fall short, you cry again cos we did not achieve what you yourself said at the start we would NOT achieve. Make up your damn mind, will ya?

Now it's tough the way things have happened and how the season has ended. I feel sorry for Klopp cos he looks spent. Did we under achieve? That's tough cos remember, the only way we would have achieved anything this season with the level of uncertainty going into the season, would have been to actually OVER-achieve. Did we do that based on that? Love to hear your answer.

29 Apr 2024 20:43:05
It’s all a process lads. When we won the league before we had to endure a couple of seasons of near misses until the players had the experience to maintain the challenge.

We had so many new players and have been forced to play a lot of young players throughout the season and they fell short this time but it’s their first attempt.

It doesn’t have to be a failure, that’s just not understanding the game at all. The fact that they have been in the thick of it gives them valuable experience and they will know how to deal with it better next time.

The worst thing we can do is to dismantle the team because of the last 6 games of the season. They have shown they are capable we should keep hold of them as now they have something to prove. Trust me they will be hurting so next time that will make them all the more determined to make sure they don’t fall away at the end.

Obviously it all depends on how the new manager gets on too but all this talk of players needing replacing is just knee jerk nonsense in my opinion.

29 Apr 2024 09:03:59
Not enough has been made of Anthony Taylor preventing Gakpo sticking the ball in the net.

What’s worse is he realised his mistake and covered it up by called the trainer on for the keeper when he wasn’t even asking for it!

It was absolutely scandalous and Taylor should be held accountable why is nobody talking about it?

29 Apr 2024 09:43:39
Because it make no real difference. Maybe more should have been said but nobody really cares.

29 Apr 2024 10:03:18
Because every level headed person has already accepted that our season is dead mate. The life has been sucked out of the season to such and extent most of us are not even getting angry anymore when horrible decisions go against us. Paqueta should've been sent off as well for a leg breaking challenge very early in the game, and he wasn't even booked. This is what happens when the manager and the players stop caring; the fans do to.

29 Apr 2024 10:04:57
It's more worrying that the ref was waving play on if he had concerns about a head injury.
But he was more bothered about how he'd come out of the situation than he was about Areola. Areola was ok and made the mistake but Taylor didn't want the fallout from that.
There was another in the Arsenal v Bayern CL game at the Emirates.
You can't just stop the game because a player thinks that the game has been stopped.

29 Apr 2024 10:11:42
That would be possible 9 points lost through incompetence of certain referees and var throughout this season. I wonder how many decisions gone against man city or Arsenal?

29 Apr 2024 11:34:28
In fairness our end of season Jonestown impersonation has made the refereeing disasters irrelevant at this point. For every Spurs or Arsenal game there’s a Crystal Palace or Everton where we pressed the self destruct on our own without any need for interference from the ref. No one but ourselves to blame at this point. That said, there isn’t one competent ref among the current shower, you could sack the lot tomorrow and give it to sone randoms out the job centre and no one could tell a difference.

29 Apr 2024 13:01:36
To follow on from a few of the comments above - think of it this way. At the start of the season if somebody would have said Klopp was going we would all (mostly) have been horrified.

Now - it is almost a relief that this season is ending and there’s a fresh start coming.

29 Apr 2024 16:56:51
Rigsby, Taylor had to make up that stunt in real time cos he knew he screwed up and had Gakpo scored, what would have been his excuse esp. with the howler of a game he had in the Forrest v Everton game with 3 blatant pens not given.

Can you imagine what would have happened had we still had a fair shot at the title and that happened? Trust me, PGMOL would have nowhere to hide and trust me, the lawsuits would be flying out the shelves from the AXA Center.

{Ed025's Note - but tell me this Oli, why the hell did Gakpo not just put the ball in the net anyway?..

29 Apr 2024 20:19:44
Ed25, Gakpo was going to do that BUT Taylor panicked (why? I have no idea) and then inexplicably blows the whistle and Gakpo had to stop, which tells you that Taylor knew he screwed up.

That's why Gakpo did not score. Worse thing is that had Gakpo scored and Taylor awarded the goal, he would have been right to do so cos that is applying the letter of the law. Areola would have looked a right dunce, for sure.

{Ed025's Note - it was a strange one Oli thats for sure, just another in a long line of refereeing cock ups that we have come to expect i suppose mate..

29 Apr 2024 22:04:42
Jonestown comparison to a few games of football - classy.

28 Apr 2024 21:54:01
Eds, I would love your perspective on how Slot might use Dom next year. I am convinced there is a special player there just not sure what position; mid, r wing?

{Ed001's Note - I would expect him to play further forward on the wing.}

28 Apr 2024 23:53:47
Thanks! Salah replacement then move trent to attacking mid?

{Ed001's Note - or as one of 2 at the base of midfield maybe? That would then free up Mac Allister to play further forward.}

29 Apr 2024 00:52:39
Thanks as alway ed001 and all Eds that make this side pire addictive! cheers from the states.

{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate. I was just thinking I would play Trent deeper as he has a better range of long passes than Mac Allister. Macca is better at slipping passes in around the edge of the box, which would suit a higher position.}

29 Apr 2024 06:18:59
I can definitely see a couple of the older attackers being moved on to free up more minutes for the youngsters. If we do move to 4231, I think it would be beneficial to Elliott, Clark, Doak, Carvalho. I think it is exciting. But unfortunately I can just imagine the hysteria on social media if Salah and Diaz both go and we don't get big money replacements for them both. I think we will see the resurgence of the FSGOut babies again this summer.

Anyway I hope Slot gives an opportunity to his fellow Dutchman van den Berg as I think he's a real talent who deserves a chance in the first-team. I'd also sign Huijsen and keep him on loan at Roma as a long-term replacement for van Dijk. If Trent moving into midfield is an inevitability, I would sign Sugawara to compete with Bradley for right-back.

29 Apr 2024 07:43:14
I agree with Ed001 about MacAllister. The more I've seen of him, the further forward I want to see him. Not as a wide player but maybe in front of a two in midfield or even as a 10. Those little interchanges and short passes are better on the edge of their box than they are on ours. And he has got a decent shot in him.

29 Apr 2024 08:37:33
Can Trent be reprogrammed to be a cog in a midfield machine after 4 seasons of being the (attempted) key in Klopp/ Ljinders recent tactics? Everything has been designed to make him the free man to create. Does he have the humility, hunger, mobility and alertness to danger to play as a midfielder at this stage? A big question for me.

29 Apr 2024 09:06:44
For me personally i would like him to go back to right back, i think when he was up and down on the right he created more and had more assists, I know we are a different team but creating width is still the best way to attack teams.

29 Apr 2024 09:54:13
TAA can play there with the right players around him. He's good enough to build a team around especially with the pick of our youngsters being a right back.

29 Apr 2024 09:47:07
For me Trent as the double 6 will be best, if we bring in a proper DM or Baj gets fully up to speed. I can’t see Dom being first choice on the right we would lose 25 goals a season and I doubt we could make that elsewhere.

29 Apr 2024 09:49:42
Ed, I say to anyone who’ll listen to read your opinions on players if they want to know who is or isn’t good, but I just can’t behind Trent being a midfielder. He’s slow, lacks aggression and bite in duels, isn’t particularly agile or fast on the turn, and seems to take little interest in improving the defensive side of his game - of the flaws he has defensively, many have been there since he broke through.
Jones, MacAllister and Trent make for a midfield of superb quality but almost no athleticism at all. It will get overrun and overpowered.

29 Apr 2024 10:24:57
The midfield won’t be Trent, Mac and Jones no one said that. Baj is an Athlete, as is Dom and I am fairly sure another midfielder will be brought in.

29 Apr 2024 10:28:49
Trent and koopmeiners for CDM macca at csm. Is szob fast enough for the wings?

29 Apr 2024 11:39:25
Trent and Koopmeiners as a central midfield partnership is a recipe for disaster Amorim, neither are very good defensively, neither are particularly athletic (Koopmeiners in particular is slow and immobile) . I mean if we’re still going with this whole “let’s give the opponents a one goal head start” thing, then yeah, let’s go for it. I’m sure our centre backs will absolutely love having no protection.

29 Apr 2024 14:26:07
I still can't get over Koopmeiners being slow and immobile in your head, VV. He was absolutely everywhere in both legs against us making runs beyond their forwards and man marking our midfielders all over the pitch. Koopmeiners not being very good defensively, I disagree with you but at least that is subjective and quite a nuanced statement as there are lots of facets to be defensively solid. Calling him slow and immobile is just blatantly incorrect though. He wouldn't be the star player in a team that man marks all over the pitch if he was immobile.

Where we do agree is on Trent in a holding midfield role though. I personally think he needs to stay out wide. His best attributes are switching the play and whipping crosses into the box. He can't use those attributes to hurt teams as often if he's playing in midfield or as an inverted full back. I think Slot needs to sit him down and ask him what he wants from his career. Does he want to be the best right wing back of all time, or does he want to just be a decent midfielder? Because if he goes back to being a proper a right wing back people will talk about him for decades and he'll set a record for assists from a defender that will never even come close to being broken. There are shades of Gerrard under Rafa when he wouldn't play right wing, although reading between the lines I think a lot of this with Trent's position is actually Lijnders influence on the tactics and Klopp going along with it. I'm hoping Slot is a bit more no nonsense about the whole Trent situation. If he won't do what is best for the team, I'm pretty sure Bradley will. Bradley isn't a generational talent like Trent could be, but he's a bloody good young player who won't let us down either.

29 Apr 2024 16:58:16
Is aw the Koop-fella play out wide in the attack when Atalanta came to Anfield so not sure how he can be called a CM, personally.

29 Apr 2024 22:07:43
I’ll bet Baj gets a game or two next season

Ali,

Bradley, Konate, Quansah, Robbo

TAA, Baj / Endo

Dom, Macca, Curtis

Gakpo.

28 Apr 2024 18:21:05
This season has been eye opening, exciting and emotional.

Grateful for the ride and of course sad for the decline at the end. Maybe at least the silver lining is that Slot will be under less pressure now than if Klopp had gone out with big trophies. -it's quite evident the level the team are actually at now.

But the biggest thing I have realised is wow, how lucky we were to have, and how good were prime Mane, Firmino and Salah. To have all 3 at a period when they were on fire was just magic to watch.

I've been guilty of expecting whoever comes in to echo what they did, without recognising how special and hard it was.

This is no judgement on current personnel but more just passing gratitude of having that era with those special players and of course our special Manager.

I think in my lifetime my 2 favourite players we have had would be Fowler and Firmino. let's hope the next one isn't that far away too :)

28 Apr 2024 18:49:09
I’m done analysing the way the seasons ended to be honest mate. There is nothing more to say without just going over and over the same things. No matter how bad it gets, at least we had that night at Wembley where our u21’s plus about 7 senior players beat one of the most expensively assembled teams in history. The season peaked that night so I think I’m just going to hold on to that and forget everything else 🤷🏻‍♂️.

28 Apr 2024 19:06:26
A lot of money needs to be spent. This is not a champions league squad. Centre back, midfielder, centre forward and if Salah goes a right sided forward 🤦🏻‍♂️ and there are none around at the minute.
Big summer, massive changes, fresh start.

28 Apr 2024 19:24:20
Champions League is crucial, everything else is cherry on the cake. Very happy with comfortable top 4 in this season.

28 Apr 2024 19:31:12
I had naively hoped we would "click" once the injured stars returned but unfortunately, it just didn't happen and the season has petered out. The United games seemed to inflict a lot of damage on the minds of the squad and fans.

For some reason we bought back the cheap Brighton-imitation tactics after the last international break. Maybe we'll find out why in the second book.

The hard facts are that we have been poor in both boxes, have gone behind in half of our games and haven't won any of the big head to head fixtures, home or away.

As much as it hurts to see Big Jurg go, it is time for a change.

28 Apr 2024 21:20:13
We can look at one poor pass from Quansah as a turning point of the season. Harsh on the kid but true.

That was the moment it seemed all of the belief drained from the players and they’ve been playing with fear ever since.

I’ve always said though all we can ask for is that we compete. You you compete for the big trophies consistently then sometimes the dice will roll in your favour and you will win.

The fact that we have competed with this squad given all of the trials and tribulations of this season tells me that wholesale changes are not necessary. We can expect the new players and young players to improve next season so incomings are just reliant on outgoings for me.

28 Apr 2024 21:34:48
Well Ron’s happy so the rest of us should be. I’m not happy, not saying we should have won the league, but it shouldn’t have been gifted so easily. Disappointing doesn’t begin to cover it.

28 Apr 2024 21:41:13
Spot, MKS. I fully endorse what you have posted. It is what it is.

Pelican, that was my hope as well. I hopes we would go up a gear since having players back would only give us a boost and more options rather than relying too much on the kids who acquited themselves honorably, should not have that type of pressure put on them. Alas, their return only proved to be a problem.

IMO, All the issues we had all season long esp. in both boxes were NEVR fixed nor addressed and that affected us in both Utd games and alas, has plunged our season down the drain to the point that now even when we play a bit well in games, our demons will always come back to haunt us cos our confidence is shot to the point that someone will ALWAYS screw up and last night, it was Allison. It's hard, guys. Really hard.

28 Apr 2024 21:57:23
Oli, demons is a bit strong, isn't it? 😂
What did Alisson do anyway?
And I hope life gets easier for you, mate.

28 Apr 2024 22:08:58
The season hasn't ended yet but keep the season's analysis coming, Reds.
I'll watch our last few games hoping that we play well and win them all. The hope keeps us coming back for more and if you haven't got any then I feel sorry for you.
I'm also going to enjoy City and Arsenal going for the title. They are two very efficient teams but you never know what will happen. It'll keep me busy for a few hours a week.

28 Apr 2024 22:31:52
Rigsby, we all have our demons, even our beloved club, lol. Me? Im doing fine, mate. Yourself?

As for Allison, he was the cause of the equalizer cos he had a chance to kill that phase of play by catching a simple ball with nobody around him yet, he managed to screw that up. The ball is kept alive, we lose it stupidly again and they score.

If he catches that ball from jump, that phase does not happen, IMO. Cos at that time, WH were NEVR in the game and were of NO threat to us at all. It's the small details, man. /.

28 Apr 2024 22:52:59
Oli - I'll forgive Alli because there's so many times he saved us. Last season he probably earned us 5-10 points.

28 Apr 2024 23:46:17
Mane Salah Firmino was simply the most incredible trio to watch. Best time I ve had as a Liverpool fan watching them three.

Obviously the Alisson, Van Dijk, Trent, Robertson, Fabinho, Henderson etc built a great platform. Klopps tactics were also great for them. But that trio was just magical to watch.

29 Apr 2024 08:40:25
I agree with you there Davey Sulls. Also, I definately think if we still had a proper leader like Henderson, he would never have allowed the team to play without total commitment or fight like we have been doing for a good few matches now.

29 Apr 2024 16:59:17
Nevada, not having a go at Alli. I never will. Just saying where I think he screwed up. that's it.

28 Apr 2024 17:44:11
How can Klopp be blamed for how absolutely awful these players are performing? It is on them they should hang their heads in shame, every one of them, even Allison is not except from this. Each and every player has been terrible. Not a manager in the world could do anything with this bunch they are woeful.

28 Apr 2024 18:18:37
Players and manager are to blame.

28 Apr 2024 18:25:23
Ridiculous, we have 75 points after 35 games, we’re the third best team in the country. We’ve hit a rough patch the past month or so where almost every player has lost form and confidence but they are not woeful.
They are not a great football team but no one thought they were 9 months ago and it’s because of these same players that a league title was even remotely possible.

28 Apr 2024 18:32:38
Think it's a mixture of both. Youngsters Diaz and Nunez carried us through injuries (unexpectedly) but it was unsustainable so we were hoping players like Salah jota robo TAA szobo comeback would Carry us in to finishing line but unfortunately it completely went opposite.

We needed luck last phase of the season which didn't smile on us. Think with players coming back from injuries upset our rhythm even Endo looks knackered loosing Bradley forced us to play TAA earlier than Klopp would like same with jota's injury put pressure on Salah to deliver which didn't happen 🤦.

28 Apr 2024 18:39:13
I know a manager that won a trophy and is third in the PL using boring tactics with these awful players.

28 Apr 2024 19:49:29
Just a shame that in the modern day the focus is always who is to blame.

28 Apr 2024 20:17:49
Because Klopps tactics have been awful. We look like United under Solskjaer no patterns of play poor at the back and toothless up front we just rely on moments of individual brilliance from players to win games.

28 Apr 2024 20:18:06
You're right, WDW.
It's all to do with ego and insecurity. Something or someone needs to be blamed and castigated for our dissatisfaction. In reality we create or already have a lot of our own dissatisfaction.
It's not personal, Reds.

28 Apr 2024 20:49:38
So the manager, his tactics and his players are all awful.
The third least awful team in the Premier League.
Can things get any more awful?!

28 Apr 2024 21:09:54
We are going to come up a bit short for the PL. That would tell me we need maybe a few tweaks here and there, a few fresh faces and some new ideas. I mean we didn’t finish 10th for goodness sake.

28 Apr 2024 21:18:47
Nothing wrong with analysing what went well and what went wrong. Learning from mistakes is how you improve in life.

28 Apr 2024 21:38:05
Mediocrity city here. “We didn’t finish tenth”. We’re Liverpool and anything lower than first should be a failure. Is it a better season than last, yes. Am I happy no, I feel we’ve thrown away a great chance at winning the league. Can’t see it happening any time soon.

28 Apr 2024 21:42:58
We have numerous chances in every game to win matches. That isn’t relying on moments of brilliance and if we had no pattern of play then we wouldn’t create so many chances.

28 Apr 2024 21:49:38
Frode
You must have been living under a rock for 30 years then before Klopp came. I.

28 Apr 2024 21:45:46
The CHief Scout can do one with his OTT takes trying to get a reaction from people. The whole team is to blame including the players and manager. That's how football works or did they not teach you this in "scouting" class?

Pretty sure you didn't think we would challenge for the title before the season started so if you said nothing about us challenging for the title in preseason then, say NOTHING now and stop crying that we did not achieve the very thing you yourself NEVER thought we would to beging with.

28 Apr 2024 21:50:03
Frode kippers with city and pep it's crazy to think any team is favourite including us. think we just have to accept the reality city will always be favourite with pep still managing them.

We gave it a good go unfortunately came short last phase of the season 🤷 we just have to accept and move on onto next season. out best manager in EPL era only was able to win one league title inspite of having 97 and 92 points and yet weren't enough to win that's the level and juggernaut we up against.

28 Apr 2024 22:16:15
Adam, you're right, mate; and there's nothing wrong with analysing the analysis.
In fact, the analysis is often worse than the football and in more need of analysis.

28 Apr 2024 22:21:02
Frode, you could try to be happy that we challenged for the League even though we will not win it.
Smile because it happened, don't cry because it's over.
I should write a book or is that still a sore subject on here?

28 Apr 2024 22:34:17
Rigsby, you are asking for water to be squeezed out of a stone by asking Frode to be positive. Good luck with thay, bro cos even when things are going great, he's still moaning and whining about stuff.

29 Apr 2024 08:55:15
I know all teams are affected by bad refs decisions, and VAR, but IF we had been given the blatent penalties against Arsenal, and City we would have another 4 points, not to mention the debacle at Tottenham too.

Rub of the green could have been kinder.

So with all the problems we have faced this season, I for one think we have exceeded my pre-season expectations.

29 Apr 2024 10:37:21
@Adam, it wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad if people did actually learn from what you call ‘analysis’. I honestly don’t see much learning unless saying the same thing over and over again week in, week out is evidence of learning?

28 Apr 2024 15:20:39
I wonder if lloyd Kelly would be an option, can play left back, centre back and obviously must know richard hughes well.

28 Apr 2024 16:46:31
I personally don't rate huges at all. Think he and Edwards are both very poor appointments by the club but time will tell if I'm wrong and i hope i am or we'll regress back years once again.

28 Apr 2024 17:22:18
Nice one for p. ing on me chips mate, you can't really make a proper call on that til the end of the transfer window, Jason wilcox has just joined man united not exactly a glitzy name.

28 Apr 2024 17:36:42
MIZER, you're basing that on what exactly?

28 Apr 2024 18:26:18
MIZER basing that on the games he doesn’t watch because he only supports the team when they are winning.

28 Apr 2024 19:10:44
Basing it on the contracts handed out previously to old players or was that Klopp and that’s why he left. Who knows.

28 Apr 2024 21:02:40
Hailstones, I can’t see Lloyd Kelly being an option as we had an issue with him and his agents before, apparently to the point that Edwards was furious with his agents so I can’t see that one happening.

28 Apr 2024 21:48:31
Mr Bean, Edwards is not the DOF anymore and will NOT be interferring with player recruitment either.

As for Kelly, Im sorry BUT we can do WAY better than him cos he is old news and that ship sailed years ago. Revisiting such an option makes no sense, IMO. Next.

28 Apr 2024 14:40:39
That's us in the CL next season.

28 Apr 2024 16:45:38
Realistically yes but mathematically no.

28 Apr 2024 17:32:59
It's laughable that someone on here thought we would be in a fight for top 4 after the Everton game.

28 Apr 2024 17:44:42
Shipley, the maximum points Spurs can get is the same as us, we’ve got better goal difference if they manage to win their remaining games.

28 Apr 2024 21:46:31
I don't like that Thursday night football. I go for a few pints on Thursday night and they clash.
I'll be having one season without them clashing and hope Slot can keep us at Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

{Ed025's Note - a wednesday slot would be much better Rigsby.

28 Apr 2024 22:14:49
Great news made up, I can sign up for TNT sports again I just can’t pay them to watch the Europa League. Champions League nights are special and worth every penny. I hope the manager can find suitable replacements for Virgil and Salah if both are to leave and we can evolve as a team. Bradley must play right back and Trent should be relieved of any tracking back duties as Gerrard was to unleash his true potential.