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06 Aug 2019 15:23:37
The ever so reliable are reporting via a South American source that Fabinho is off to Real Madrid in an agreed £60m+ add ons Deal this week. General end of window trash or any substance at all?

😳🤯.

{Ed047's Note - sounds like 100% utter garbage to me mate, he’s got some clicks out of it though.


1.) 06 Aug 2019 15:44:10
Coutinho is off to Arsenal on loan. Utd, Arsenal, City, Chelsea and Spurs have strengthened considerably while we signed no first-team players. With 6 competitions this season, Klopp and FSG are playing a very dangerous game.

The team this season is the same one we've had last season that competed for 2 trophies. The notion of having the same team competing for 6 competitions (this season) sounds ridiculous.


2.) 06 Aug 2019 15:45:00
Missed the word “ever so reliable ECHO”

Just to add to the click bate chances. 🤡.

{Ed047's Note - 😂


3.) 06 Aug 2019 15:58:38
Kwkhong is that some sort of windup. We literally have 4 first team players returning from injury that were not really utilized at all last season. I’m not saying they’re new signings. But they certainly have a spot to fill and can’t be replaced until they are sold. And imo, Lallana, ox, Brewster and especially gomez are all pretty darn good quality to add in the squad.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 16:25:57
Sorry Ed's. /..................

{Ed002's Note - Take it to the Arsenal page.}


5.) 06 Aug 2019 16:38:01
I may be way off ...........

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page.}


6.) 06 Aug 2019 17:07:09
. but I really do think the moon is made of cheese.


7.) 06 Aug 2019 18:09:00
Madrid don’t have £60m to offer. They’re desperately trying to offer their deadwood to anyone who’ll, which is no one unfortunately for them.


8.) 06 Aug 2019 18:49:08
Well here is some Trivia for you all - Fabinho has played for Real Madrid before in 2013. He was on loan there and made 1 first team appearance.


 

 

04 Aug 2019 22:27:35
Mignolet is set to sign for Club Brugge tomorrow for £7m rising to £9m with add-ons. Absolute bargain and thanks for you service to the club Simon.

Any idea on a replacement or are we promoting?


1.) 04 Aug 2019 23:15:58
Signing in a keeper, my money is on Çakir from Trabzonspor, wouldn't mind having Pepe Reina back as an alternative. Kelleher will remain as 3rd choice.


2.) 04 Aug 2019 23:20:22
The club must certainly have someone in mind, if they're allowing Mignolet to leave. I was not always happy with Mignolet, but after seeing Bravo's performance today, I really hope it's someone of Mignolet's level and better. I doubt it'll be an internal promotion, and probably someone from outside the club. Granted almost all the shots on target were right at Bravo, but he still didn't let anything pass the goal line.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 23:50:07
Let's get that done and dusted and get out of there before they realise what we've done.


4.) 05 Aug 2019 00:11:14
There’s some vague rumours about us going for Alex McCarthy as a replacement.


5.) 05 Aug 2019 00:23:47
Apparently the keeper we are going for is McCarthy from Southampton.


6.) 05 Aug 2019 08:09:34
Wouldn’t be a transfer window with a quick purchase from Southampton, would it.


7.) 05 Aug 2019 08:23:17
Our saints team really is coming along nicely now, could have quite the seven aside.


8.) 05 Aug 2019 10:26:08
My money is Adrian on a free.


9.) 05 Aug 2019 10:56:55
Melissa reddy as said it's Adrian, he's a free agent.


 

 

06 Jul 2019 16:16:34
I hate rumours like this but in a betting group I am in, a usually reliable poster shared some info (with a view to bet on it) that Dembele has traveled up to Liverpool today and is with Liverpool officials right now. The odds (irrelevant but interesting) have dropped substantially in the last few hours so it's either legit or a staged wind up that's spreading through betting groups so that punters jump on.

Do we have any info on this at all? As nobody has left for him to replace I'm dismissing until I hear from yourselves.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 16:44:43
Yeah dismiss it mate if I were you. No interest, would cost towards 100M also.


2.) 06 Jul 2019 16:53:39
Its happening on loan apparently. I don't know why barcelona would ever do that.
They will have to sell dembele and coutinho and others to get in griezmann and neymar.


3.) 06 Jul 2019 16:59:59
Not you as well akrubbish. Its nonsense!


4.) 06 Jul 2019 17:06:46
Controversial and winds people up but Im still not sure that Salah doesnt leave this window if the Merry Go Round starts up. Id prefer Pepe if he did but a loan to buy deal for Dembele could make sense if the worry is his previous injuries. Like you say, it doesnt help Barcelona with funding their main targets. Im dismissing it but I do love a rumour that drops the odds market as Im a sports trader myself and can take advantage of rumours like this even if they are false.


5.) 06 Jul 2019 17:35:37
You imagine the club will be watching Salah closely, and potential replacements, in case he gets the offer he clearly wants from Real or wherever.
It doesn't look likely at the moment, but while it's even possible the management will have a plan ready, just in case.

I would rather they make that move now and bed the new forward in over this season, but it's such a huge investment that maybe they can't really make their move until they know Salah has made the decision to leave?


6.) 06 Jul 2019 18:17:15
I would n't worry about it (I am guessing most don't want Dembele in) . I would imagine he will be part of any Naymar deal that may happen.


7.) 06 Jul 2019 19:38:01
Never going to happen. Plus hed be late getting the flight to John Lennon airport as he was too busy on his Xbox.


8.) 06 Jul 2019 19:57:27
On the possibility of Dembele specifically, surely it's unlikely the club will be interested?
Klopp seems to prefer more solid and hardworking personalities, and every indication is that Dembele is a complete tool.
Maybe Klopp doesn't mind a project and the challenge of turning a brilliant but wayward young player around, but the rest of the recruitment team will surely be dead set against a player with such a poor reputation, and at such a high cost?
I don't think this club will touch him at 100m plus.


9.) 06 Jul 2019 20:20:55
If he's going to be part of the deal to bring Neymar back, PSG are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.


10.) 06 Jul 2019 20:38:24
Does anyone think that we could get dembele? I think if he was travelling to Liverpool we would all know about it. Is Liverpools deals not sorted in London?


11.) 06 Jul 2019 20:47:54
I'm not saying it will happen but would anyone take a loan to buy? Season to bed in to klopps tactics and then when Salah leaves next summer (probable but not definite) we can conclude the dembele deal (if klopp thinks he's good enough/ has the right attitude.

Again, I know unlikely, but am interested to see peoples views.

{Ed002's Note - It is not an option at all. Dembele is not in Liverpool.}


12.) 06 Jul 2019 21:55:01
Thanks Ed. Good job I didn't have a bet then, ill lay him off to all the people who believe it .


13.) 06 Jul 2019 23:24:27
Usually, I agree about bookies and odds regarding football are biased in the bookies favour, obviously, you never see a skint bookie, but interesting non the less as sky have taken him completely off their transfer special section, and he's been on their for weeks. Hmmm.


14.) 07 Jul 2019 03:56:43
Ps don't shoot the messenger but the same window cleaner does klopps house and he swears blind that klopps Screensaver is of Danny wellbeck make of it as you will just passing on the knowledge I just checked the odds at the bookies and he's come in from 100 to 1 to 98 to 1 so it's looking pretty nailed on.


15.) 07 Jul 2019 11:30:05
I saw my missus talking to the window cleaner last week and now bookies have reduced the odds of her having an affair from 20-1 down to 7-2 I don't know whether I should sack him as our window cleaner or to sneak a 30 bet on.


16.) 07 Jul 2019 15:16:07
Giblet, I am your window cleaner . Its over . respect to you, how do you cope, another hour and I would 've gone mad.


17.) 07 Jul 2019 20:59:30
Salah is not leaving next summer . who wants to leave the premier and european champions.


 

 

24 Jun 2019 19:13:17
Afternoon Eds.

The Times (via Paul Joyce) are running a story about Mignolet, they say the decision has been made that he is staying for the coming season.

Do you have any further info on him at all?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry - nothing new.}


1.) 24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so id be very happy if it was true.


2.) 24 Jun 2019 22:05:16
I can only assume we will allow him to go IF we find a replacement and IF the offer is right for both us and Mignolet.

As much as I love his commitment and putting the team first, surely he needs to be looking for 1st team football elsewhere?


 

 

05 May 2019 00:40:23
I have heard from a contact that Klopp has a keen interest in Leroy Sane and as part of his planning for the summer (should a space become available due to a first team player leaving) he has asked to be keep in the loop on the players situation.

Have any of the Ed's heard similar? The guy who told me isn't your typical moron and does hear reliable info occasionally about various teams.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously Sane was an option in the past - going forward if Mane were to leave this summer Sane might be considered again by the club - but I am not aware of any approach to Manchester City asking to be "kept informed" at all.}


1.) 05 May 2019 10:32:35
I would love Sane in our team but you must be smoking something over there if you think Guardiola would sell him to us for a reasonable price!


2.) 05 May 2019 10:36:55
No chance unless Mane goes which is unlikely since Real will probably get Hazard.
Plus I doubt we have that sort of money City would want to part ways with him.


3.) 05 May 2019 11:27:18
Cover for the front three is definitely what we need. Sane is unrealistic, I'd take a chance on Zaha from palace. Can play wide and upfront, he's not lazy. Maybe worth a look reds?


4.) 05 May 2019 12:27:20
Does anyone know .....

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page, this is the Liverpool page.}


5.) 05 May 2019 12:43:29
LiverpoolFC8, I think Zaha has found his natural level at Crystal Palace. I don’t think he is good enough for Liverpool. But who would have thought Robbo would turn out this good?


6.) 05 May 2019 12:53:55
the way to San Jose?


7.) 05 May 2019 13:32:30
Nicolas pepe, or chuckweeze of villareal for me.


8.) 05 May 2019 14:56:23
Big Ed001, would you shell out for CAM next season if you were a manager? Assuming we don't lose any players to transfers.
Or would you try out some of the youth that looks good at the moment? Kent/ Wilson/ Brewster?

{Ed001's Note - Brewster is not really a CAM from what I have seen. Kent is nowhere near good enough and I have my doubts about Wilson. It really depends on who goes as to who we need to buy though.}


9.) 05 May 2019 20:55:18
Kent is gone, Wilson will probably have pre season to prove himself.

I think lallana should go and get regular game time somewhere else but i doubt people will want someone who spends so much time on the treatment table. it's unfortunate as he does offer something different when he doesn't dally on the ball.

Shaqiri, difficult one as ed says he was good at the start then Klopp got frustrated with him but apparently now he is firing on all cylinders, so we shall see he is a useful option but if we can get a decent return then maybe.

I am assuming we will look to bring someone in, to help cover the front line as well as we are severly short up front for back up/ other options.

Brewster is looking sharp in training and i have high hopes for him but sturridge is gone.


10.) 06 May 2019 09:49:33
The Juicer I see you have watched Helix haha
Anyway I can’t see city ever selling any of their first team players to us especially Sane.


 

 

 

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06 Aug 2019 15:54:16
Imagine being the lad who was sat waiting for a job interview and now he's our final hope of a transfer in the window.

In a comment to the Echo, the junior soux chef who has been named locally as Fuzy Faze said, "I was only there for a part time job in the canteen and now I'm covering DM, LB and RB. I've been told my first shift is against Norwich. I'm a big fan of Delia Smith so I'll give it a go to try and impress her. " 🤷🏼‍♂️.


1.) 06 Aug 2019 16:37:23
Haha Love it!

I say give the lad a go. He looks the part.

Is that how we got Moreno?


2.) 06 Aug 2019 16:44:27
That is absolutely brilliant. I love it when the transfer window throws up a beauty like this!


3.) 06 Aug 2019 18:31:45
Class!
Why are we so desperate to sign someone we would be happy with the chef 😂.


 

 

04 Aug 2019 20:24:15
Well that's all the warm up games done, the talking is over.

We retained the whole Champions League winning team and baring any dramas between now and Friday we have a fit squad. A few will need some conditioning and Manè will be packing his bucket and spade away and heading back soon.

We all have ideas on players we'd have liked and some people wanted to see departures but we have who we have and we walk into this season with confidence. We aren't still trying to flog players to bring in new like the Mancs and we don't have a new group that we need to settle in and mould like the gooners. Chelsea are trying to make a team out of an army of returning loanees and City have a manager who is on the brink of a breakdown and we showed today that we can match them toe to toe. We have nothing to fear but fear itself.

We are Liverpool, we stand together and you'll never walk alone.

On the 17th of May next year we will lift the Premier League trophy. It won't be easy and there will be dramas along the way but on Friday at 8pm, we begin.

YNWA.

{Ed025's Note - big shout that BG, lets just hope it does,nt come back to bite you on the arse like it did to salah last season mate..


1.) 04 Aug 2019 21:16:35
It's hard to take too much from that game but I was assured by the fact that it was so close, decided on fine margins looking forward to the season we're in with a shout.


2.) 04 Aug 2019 21:27:21
My positive was that Salah looked keen. We need him focused on us and all ideas of going elsewhere gone and I hope he showed that he means business again this season.


3.) 04 Aug 2019 21:57:40
I think Ed25 means the poster not the player 🙄🙄.


4.) 04 Aug 2019 22:02:11
Still need to address a few things defensively and maybe put our shooting boots back on but it was a much more impressive performance this time out. The game literally could have had six or seven goals if Bravo doesn't show up or Salah and Sterling could finish. Both could have had hat tricks the number of times they were wide open. Great game to watch though, probably the two best teams in the world.


5.) 04 Aug 2019 23:35:11
On our A game we are a match for any team in the world. It’s when we are not on our A game is the the worry. The games we drew last season it’s not like we could say we were unlucky in. If anything some of them we were lucky to get away with the draw.


6.) 04 Aug 2019 23:46:01
Spot on, BGizzles. Klopp and LFC leave rent free in City and Pep's heads. They can't seem to shake us off and IMO, Klopp is loving it and so am I. On today's display (that was no friendly, mark my words), City had better hope that Laporte (brilliant CB) never gets injured this season cos if they miss him for any amount of time, Otamendi and Stones (77m worth of dross) will not survive the type of beating they received from our forwards today.

What also helped us and handicapped City was that there was no Fernandinho in midfield to chop down our players on the counter to break the rhythm, something City and Pep actually use as a tactic to protect that leaky defence they've always had. We have no new players to bed in (had 97 points while bedding in Fab, AB and Naby ) so everyone knows the system and we are still fully focused and hungry for this season as personified by Mo who was immense (need to take your chances, bro) today. We will be in City's faces all season long so let's get it.


 

 

31 Jul 2019 22:47:30
Do the Ed's know if we have ever looked at Josha Vagnoman? He would be the perfect option atm as young and fairly priced cover for both fullback positions. He looks the kind of player that Klopp could do wonders with and is more experienced than Hoever and Larouche.

One for my wish list with Cornet, get those two and I'd be far more confident in squad depth. 2 young and cost effective players who can cover 5 positions.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


1.) 31 Jul 2019 23:42:07
Thanks for the swift reply Ed, I was looking at the Hamburg squad and was surprised he was still there as iirc he was talked up last season for a move to the Prem.


2.) 31 Jul 2019 23:48:41
I don’t know anything about Josha Vagnoman but a quick Wikipedia search shows me that he’s 18 with 8 senior appearances for Bundesliga 2 side Hamburg. He is barely more experienced than Hoever and Larouci, it would be a waste of a signing.


3.) 01 Aug 2019 00:25:08
He is going to be a very good player and while cheap would be a good investment. He fits the Klopp fullback model and can play both sides and also as a possible left winger in the future (the same as Trent will on the right) . If we are buying the likes of Elliott and Van Den Berg he would absolutely be a good buy that offers depth in full back positions. Klopp will clearly know about him, and not just from reading his Wiki page. I just asked if he had ever looked at him as young, attacking full backs who can play both sides are not easy to find in this market and he could end up being a very good one imo.


4.) 01 Aug 2019 07:31:59
Stop with this football manager nonsense.


5.) 01 Aug 2019 07:52:38
Agreed Thunderbird. complete waste. Larouci and Hoever have huge potential.


6.) 01 Aug 2019 10:12:52
We are buying talented kids, I never said he would be a starter. Is it a waste to spend £3-5m on a decent prospect who can play both full back positions when we only have 1 inexperienced kid to cover our starters in that position? What happened to, “we have no depth? ” Where were the questions when we bought Elliot with a packed midfield or Den Berg with Matip and Lovren already in place to cover the bench? This kid can be as good as Robbo and will play for a top German side in the next couple of years, I was just throwing the name out there. As for fantasy manager questions, it’s a football rumours page and I put out a decent name to help out where we are lacking. I’m not sure what kind of meltdown you are going to have when Klopp buys a LB, because he is looking for one. I guess you all want a world beater to sit on the bench or someone who only depreciates in value. That’s not how the club are operating anymore folks.


 

 

31 Jul 2019 21:35:38
Oh Harry Harry, Harry Harry Wilson.

To quote my Derby season ticket holder friend, "He's terrible off the ball, visually lazy. Gets some wonder goals but the rest of the time you wonder where he is. "

If ever there was a description of a player that Klopp wouldn't want.

Snap any hand off for £20-25m and buy Cornet.


1.) 31 Jul 2019 22:19:21
Have you actually watched Cornet? Or are you basing this urge to sign him on a YouTube video, because he’s hardly what you’d call hard working and certainly not a prolific goalscorer, furthermore you do realise that Aulas is not the easiest person to negotiate with and after the debacle with Fekir he’s going to mskr incredibly difficult negotiating for a very distinctly average player at what is the arse end of the window.


2.) 31 Jul 2019 22:26:38
Twenty-five million pounds would be tough to turn down for the lad, but I personally would like to see him stay. Many of the complaints we have about Harry are the same reasons why Shaqiri didn't get a look in toward the end of the season. That said, those particular types of players are integral to breaking down teams that park the bus and, ultimately, winning titles. Not everybody can play ninety minutes week in and week out in a 25+ man squad. Let the lad contribute where he can, play 23's and for Wales and see if he can break in to the first team. No more loans. Sell him if a great offer comes, sure, otherwise let him wait for his chance. I personally think he has the talent to take it, just has to work on contributing in ways that don't make headlines.


3.) 31 Jul 2019 23:01:42
I am a professional sports traded so watch plenty of French football and am more than confident that he would do a job in a Klopp set up. I think you are doing him an injustice, his goal scoring record is fair for the minutes he’s played and in a situation where we are worried that we can’t spare minutes, he’s the ideal player to have on the bench who may well be happy to do that. He is pacey and has a solid work rate, he also has a lot of strength and is good with his head. He’s far more versatile than Origi and Shaq.

It’s a 3 for, he will be a player who buys us some bench confidence in 3 positions in what will be a long hard season. As for doing a deal, if we can get £20-25 for Wilson it would be the perfect reinvestment for team value and would at least be worth testing the water.


4.) 31 Jul 2019 23:51:39
I’ve watched plenty of French football and seen more than enough of him to form an opinion, he’s very one dimensional and is only effective against teams that push up and even then he’s almost solely reliant on midfielders passing the ball into space he can run into. He wouldn’t make any difference in games where teams are sitting back, as the only thing he has going for him is pace, which is useless against teams who sit back and defend in numbers. He looks like he doesn’t have much in the way of technique and his shooting can best be described as putting his foot through it and hoping for the best. If the best that we can hope for is Cornet, I really would not bother selling Wilson as I’d rather give one of our own lads the chance and we’d be negotiating with Aulas who is notoriously difficult, loathes English teams and would ask close to £35-40m for a player who isn’t better than available options already at the club. As for versatility he’s only really effective on the wings, as he lacks the all round game to play through the middle and he’s certainly not good enough to be a midfielder.

{Ed0333's Note - absolutely no way Cornet will cost north of £35 million.


5.) 01 Aug 2019 00:38:36
Ed0333 we are talking Aulas here, football’s equivalent of the French soldier in Monty Python and the Holy Grail who likes trolling anyone who approaches Lyon about anyone under any contract with at least two years remaining. You’re also forgetting that if we sell Wilson and are going cap in hand desperately trying to replace Wilson then he’ll ask for stupid money as he’ll know we’re desperate, it’s a sellers market not a buyers market. In short, Cornet isn’t worth sacrificing Wilson for as far as I’m concerned and it would be a sad indictment on the club if we didn’t give Wilson a chance and brought in a mediocre player instead.

{Ed025's Note - its about getting the best player available 6times..


6.) 01 Aug 2019 05:01:53
6times you say he's not prolific yet he averaged a goal every 140 mins last season in 36 games.

You say he's not versatile and can only play on the wings. That's exactly what we need is a wide player who can play both sides.

You say his reliant on pace would be useless for us in breaking down teams even though pace is our strongest weapon we use to hurt teams.

How does Wilson offer anything better? He's only suited to playing from right midfield in a deeper role than 433 offers. He has very little pace, has only played at championship level and half his goals have come from set pieces, not overly prolific from play at all. They're the same age, probably similar costs. Fact is cornet is much more suited to fall in for salah or mane without a complete change in attacking style. Wilson offers nothing too dissimilar to what we already have in shaqiri.


7.) 01 Aug 2019 06:32:47
Har_red92, I have to defend Wilson a little bit here because last season he played almost an even 3 way split of his games on the right wing, left wing, and attacking midfield. He's at least as versatile as Cornet. I also wanted to point out that pace is not the most important factor when running in behind. If it was then sprinters would be good footballers. Wilson times his runs very well and has good anticipation.

I agree that from what I've seen Cornet is the better player. I haven't seen Wilson in training every day for the last month though so am I going to question Klopp if he keeps him for the year? No chance.

Cornet is quicker, he is stronger, he does work harder, and his movement is better. However it's only fair to then point out that Wilson has slightly better striking technique, much better close control, and takes much better set pieces. It's horses for courses really, but if Wilson works harder off the ball then he will be the better player. It's his biggest flaw and maybe Klopp backs himself as a coach. We'll find out in less than 2 weeks.


8.) 01 Aug 2019 10:38:32
6, are you Harry Wilson’s mum?

You seem overly emotional when anyone mentions Hazza being sold. It’s ok if you have a thing for him, he’s got that pretty boy look that a lot of the ladies like. do you have a soft spot for him? Or are you just Welsh and feeling sad that it’s a bad week for your players not being wanted?

You’ve trashed a perfectly decent option for front 3 cover at a time that we need some versatile experience going into a long season. Cornet is more than able and can do a job across the front. He would be more useful as cover for L and R than Origi and Brewster and we currently have nobody better. I am taking about investing the money from flogging a wonder loanee on a young utility forward who is experienced at a decent level, has shown an interest in joining us and has all the makings of a top international footballer. The type of player that Klopp could mould and develop in the way he has with Mane.

Sorry if we need to sell your son (or lover) to get him but it’s a sacrifice that needs making.


9.) 01 Aug 2019 10:50:20
Why would we desperatly try or need to replace Wilson? A player who hasn't kicked a ball for us in 2 years? Makes no sense to me. He won't make the bench for 90 % of our games, if he is fine with that keep him but i doubt he wants that.


10.) 01 Aug 2019 11:04:35
We need the money Maaaaaa, Klopp has hinted quite a few times in the last few weeks that we don’t have the finances of others and players would need to leave before we sign anyone else. £20-25m is a big sack of cash for a player who in your own words won’t play 90% of our games, he’s also not good enough.

Klopp likes Cornet, Klopp wants to sell Wilson. Are we in a place already where we don’t trust the manager and Edwards?


11.) 01 Aug 2019 11:21:38
Naah man, am all for letting him go for the best of his career. If you write down your starting line-up then the bench there is just no place for Wislon. So if Klopp wants Maxwell he can get him but i don't ser him playing a lot baring injuries either to be honest. Shaqiri, Chamberlain and Origi will all be used to cover the wings when Salah and Mane need a rest.


12.) 01 Aug 2019 16:54:09
People were saying similar things about salah before we signed him. Not saying that cornet is at his level. But klopp can work with pacey players and get the best out of them.

Salah
Robbo
Mane
Origi
Taa
Aoc.


13.) 01 Aug 2019 19:54:08
6 Times, Harry Wilson is nowhere near Cornet's ability. As the OP said, you would not know Wilson was playing as it seems he was hiding the whole game. The only time or two his name was mentioned were the two shots on target he had. The rest of the time he was on the field, he was literally invisible. A complete passenger on the pitch, something Klopp loathes.

As for Cornet, he is WAY better than whatever stories you have made up about him in your head. He clearly can do a job for us as he can play on either flank and at CM. Also, Klopp and the staff think he is good enuff and clearly they have enuff evidence to work with cos they have seen both players play. If not, why would Klopp want Wilso sold and Cornet signed?

As I've said before, you may think Cornet is poor and that is cool. Debate on the merits instead of constantly attacking him with personal attacks and bigging up Wilson like you are his agent.


 

 

29 Jul 2019 16:30:57
Origi has scored some important goals but is an average striker. Brewster is a massive talent and will be a future starter and star but needs time and minutes around the front 3 to learn and develop. Shaqiri is hot and cold but something doesn't feel 100% with the fella and I sense Klopp isn't sure. AOC is coming back from a serious injury and has had the odd recovery niggle in pre season. Salah and Bobby are only just coming back and will need at least 2 week away and minutes to get near prime fitness. Mane isn't even due back for 2 weeks.

With all the will in the world, how can we be confident of any kind of early showing in the season that is only days away? I'm not even saying that a signing would help as they need to be taught the ways of the Klopp. We have a tired and unprepared front 3 with average and not 100% trusted back ups, I think Top 5 after 5 games is a fair target. We can't realistically expect to be top or even top 3.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with any of that BG..


1.) 29 Jul 2019 16:44:55
Good call BG and I also agree on top 5 after 5 game's personally I'd take that all day long.


2.) 29 Jul 2019 16:51:42
What happens if Aguero or Sterling get injured for City?

City realy on those 2 players to get to the 20 goal mark each.

To many ifs and buts from our fans.

{Ed0333's Note - they’ll go out and buy a world class striker probably in January.


3.) 29 Jul 2019 16:56:42
Our frontline back ups last year were origi, Shaq and Sturridge, and we still had a pretty decent season. No player good enough to start every game will come in to start a low percentage of games, ed001 has intimated that this is the reason we're struggling to get players in, coupled with the fact we're struggling to move some others on.


4.) 29 Jul 2019 17:11:28
I all honesty who cares about our league position after 5 games, all that matters is our league position after 38 games.


5.) 29 Jul 2019 17:08:20
Ed0333, as it is Pep cannot keep his City squad happy when it comes to minutes on the pitch.

They are bound to lose Sane replacements for Sane not going to sign for City to sit on the bench either.

There is a reason they have not been active in the market other than signing Fernandinho's replacement.

{Ed0333's Note - I appreciate you’re sentiments. But in my opinion it’s not hard to find good players who will take a mega wage and be happy to sit on the bench. If you dangle a sweet enough carrot someone will bite.


6.) 29 Jul 2019 17:33:10
I agree with you BG - starting the season without our front three (and Alisson) fully prepared is a worry, as while I really like Origi and Brewster there’s a clear drop off in quality.

On the other hand, if you view the Charity Shield and Supercup as just bonus games, then the only PL match between now and the 17th is Norwich, which we should hopefully still have enough firepower to win. If we win that and use the cups to get our front three full match fit for the 17th, we may not necessarily have as bad a start as current form suggests.

{Ed0333's Note - I think this notion we will have a bad start is absurd. It’s panty wetting for no good reason. If we can’t beat Norwich and Southampton without one or two of Mané, Bobby and Mo then I’m sorry we don’t deserve the points. These panicking Pete’s forget we beat Barcelona 4-0 without Salah and Bobby...come on people have a slice of perspective pie please.


7.) 29 Jul 2019 18:09:10
I doubt City in are a position to just sign players for the sake of substituting wages for playing time Ed0333 otherwise you would have seen City making singings other than a replacement for Fernandinho oh and that fullback who they resigned who most likely won't even see a starting place.

Sane wants to leave because he ain't first choice.

{Ed0333's Note - for every Sane that wants playing time there’s another mercenary who won’t mind sitting on the bench mate. I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one mate.


8.) 29 Jul 2019 18:21:05
This squad will not be together forever. It’s a brilliant XI. Why not fight to win every competition? Why not strengthen from a position of strength? No one knows if we will able to keep the core next year. Life happens. Hope this window is not a missed opportunity.

{Ed0333's Note - maybe players were targeted and wanted assurances of playing time?


9.) 29 Jul 2019 18:22:04
Yeah Ed0333, then who will Pep sign to replace an injured Aguero to fill in for him for 2 or 3 games at 150 million and at the same wages as Aguero? Aguero will be on holiday afterwards.

Yes like Sanchez at UTD who does not even know what he is even doing at Old toilet but earning a pot load of wages. They have no plan for him.

Just sign replacements for the sake of them your current regulars 'getting injured'.

{Ed0333's Note - I’m sure someone like Dembele et al would come to City for astronomical wages with a view to deputizing for Aguero who misses more than 3 games a season on average. Also Aguero has arguably one more season left at city’s main striker so I’m sure there looking for a replacement.


10.) 29 Jul 2019 18:26:00
So you are suggesting Sane is a mercenary?

{Ed0333's Note - Not all I’m suggesting the complete anthesis.


11.) 29 Jul 2019 18:37:23
Pep signed Jesus. To do what?

Sit on the bench? Why did Pep sign Sane? Also to sit on the bench?

Players nowadays get promised the world, earn big and are misinformed and made promises and then stuck with a massive contract with many little clubs being able to afford them.

Do you understand that?


12.) 29 Jul 2019 18:50:24
Some fans argue that:
1. We don't need any 1st team signing. Ox and Keita are like 'new signings'.
My concern: Ox injury history is really scary.
In 13-14: Missed 34 games
In 14-15: Missed 20 games
In 15-16: Missed 19 games
Missed the entire 18-19 season.

No doubt on his ability, but he's injury prone.

2. "There is no room for any first team player. We don't need an unhappy player. Look at Sane at Man City. "
My Opinion: What's the big deal, if Sane is unhappy or wants to leave? They have won back to back premier league with that unhappy player. Winning the league - that's the big deal in my opinion.


13.) 29 Jul 2019 19:10:16
So we all agree that the 6 players to cover the front 3 are weaker now that at the start of last season. That’s not even allowing for the main 3 being weeks away from being close to match fit. Yes, we have the best front 3 in the world when fit, but we are clutching at straws for a decent 6.

We also agree that the 8 that cover the back 4 are weaker now than at the start of last season. Yes, we have a pretty Stellar back 4, but as an 8, we are weaker.

We are not in a position to spend and it’s hard to get players in who won’t start. All understandable and nothing different to what the Ed’s have said.

A weaker 14 across defence and midfield and a more tired main front 3 than ever before at the start of a season.

Top 5 after 5 is more than fair. I’m not sure I really read someone say, it doesn’t matter where we are after 5 games. That’s a terrible attitude, we need to be in the mix and fighting at the top after 5. Is it acceptable that City, Arsenal or god forbid United were at the top with say 13-15 points and we were in 5th on 8-9? Totally fine that we would be 2 wins and a draw off top after only 5? That would be a disaster for a team with so much expectation who thrive on momentum.

Looking at our fixtures, we need to be top 3 within 5 and a max of 3pts off the top because I think there will be two teams that are pushing City all the way this year and we can’t get left behind due to unfit players and inadequate replacements. In Klopp we trust but how we start this season will tell us a lot about how good the guy is at getting the best out of the cards he’s dealt.


14.) 29 Jul 2019 18:37:13
Do you think we are done then Ed0333 in the window?

{Ed0333's Note - No mate I don’t I think we’re done I think we’ll sign one at least.


15.) 29 Jul 2019 19:01:57
Spot on, Max. Ed033, the issue with Pep and City is that there aren't that many mercenaries in football now, IMO. Top players or top talents right now, want to play every game in addition to having the paycheck to go with it. Gone are the days where players used to be happy being on the bench and stealing a living. No longer is that the case. If it was the case then why are Sane, Jesus, Gundogan and Mahrez (who are on serious wages) fed up with being on the bench half the time?

Dembele from say Lyon, will not come to sit on the bench behind Jesus (if Aguero were to leave) cos he is a starter at a CL team in Lyion and would not feel Jesus is better which IMO, he is not. And for the last time, comparing us to City is a misnomer. We are not them and we don't operate like them. They signed Sane and Sterling very young to replace the players that were leaving eventually. They were signed as competition, not depth. This is the false argument people keep making. we are not City and we never do what they do and people need to get over that.

{Ed0333's Note - Firstly mate I was talking about Dembele at Barca. Secondly are you really telling me there’s good players out there that won’t sit on a bench for £150K - £200K a week? I really really really beg to differ.


16.) 29 Jul 2019 19:07:18
One Eyed Monster, first of all Sane wants to leave. 2nd of all, he is on a huge pay packet. 3rd, whoever wants to sign him is going to need to fork out big amounts of cash wages and fee plus agent fees etc etc etc.

The result is you have an unhappy player and can only replace him if another club which can afford him signs him.

Then City are still stuck with an unhappy player who wants to leave and cannot replace him unless another club which is able to afford him pays up the money.

Salah wants to go to Madrid but knows he will be fine and dandy if he stays at LFC. His position does not change unless his desired destination i. e. Madrid becomes available.

Sane is in a position where he wants to be first choice, will not be first choice at City and not many teams can afford him.

Spot the diffetence?

{Ed0333's Note - pray tell


17.) 29 Jul 2019 19:15:19
You do realise first place is in the top 5 :)


18.) 29 Jul 2019 19:24:39
Pray tell lol. Let's sign Pepe Ed0333 and make him sit on the bench when Mane, Salah and Firmino are fit.

We can tell Pepe to relax and wait for hos chance.

If you think Pepe, at his age, with many clubs after him is going to sign a contract with a club where he will not be first choice the you are living in la la land. I guess Pepe can always be used in midfield lol.

{Ed0333's Note - I’d use him as the back up keeper until Salah leaves because he’d do a better job than Migs. P


19.) 29 Jul 2019 19:26:47
Ed033, my bad, re: Dembele. I thought you were referring to Lyon's Dembele cos he plays the same position as Aguero. As for your take that there are top players who will b happy being on the bench on 150k to 200k a week. If that is the case, then let me challenge you on that front. Name five of them that you think would do that and then we can discuss. I'll wait.

{Ed0333's Note - how can I give you 5 names of players without asking them? And I don’t wanna piss on you’re chips mate but I’m not friends with any top strikers in world football, in fact Im not friends with any strikers. I do however know about human nature and psychology and it doesn’t take a genius to work out that most people have their price and footballers aren’t the exception.


20.) 29 Jul 2019 19:37:20
Once again, it doesn't matter where we are after 5 games, all that matters is where we are after 38 games.
It wouldn't matter if we were bottom of the league after 5 games so long as we are top after 8 games.
The only people who care about this are the people who will say that the league is gone as soon as we drop points.


21.) 29 Jul 2019 19:50:54
Ed0333, point is, Pepe is not going to sing with LFC unless he is going to be a starter from the off, from the very start when he signs on the dotted line meaning he will take Salah's place and Salah will have to be on the bench.

You are living in La la land if you believe otherwise.


22.) 29 Jul 2019 19:55:52
1st in in the Top 5? Since when? Urgh :)

Looks like we are breaking a record then Thunder as no team what were in the bottom 12 after 5 games have ever won the premier league or old first division. It may not be there be all and end all but it does matter and is very important for player psychology and team confidence.

This isn’t doom and gloom, this is a let’s stop fooling ourselves because we are ever so weaker now and the fitness of the front 3 will be below par for a little while. I haven’t even allowed for Allison to be less than perfect. It’s more of a “don’t expect too much with this squad in this condition” but we need to have one eye on the detrimental effect of us having a poor start and hoping the key players can claw back and push on later.


23.) 29 Jul 2019 20:29:58
I hope your right Ed0333. Anything from your end mate on whom? Times ticking mate with just over a week left.


24.) 29 Jul 2019 21:14:57
A player who will take mega money and just sit on a bench bale is a prime example

front players different to last season
We have only lost studge who lost his place to origi midway through last season so origi is better than last seasons studge so to me we have improved in strength

Back 4 is exactly the same only Matip ended the season much better than he started and displaced lovren as 1st choise sub and possibly pushing gomez for a start so if anything we are better in that area

Also we hadn't bedded fabinho into midfield till midseason

Imo we are going into this season stronger than the team who started last season yes some players coming back from international duty but that's all top teams having that issue.


25.) 29 Jul 2019 22:00:33
Oh beckers stop talking nonsense. how is our back 8 weaker? How is our front 6 weaker? Just a bunch of jokes.


26.) 30 Jul 2019 01:03:37
Liverpool will be joint top after 5 games on 15 points.

Norwich home
Southampton away
Arsenal home
Burnley away
Newcastle home

Not the wost set of fixtures to get the 3 musketers up to speed.

I say 3 points from all 5 games because its a must. Man city's first 11 games up until they play us at anfield aren't the worst they could be either. Its going to be another nail biter this season. Due to the club world cup we are going to be the ones playing catch up come the turn of the year.

I think liverpool will be even more hungry and focused this season. With the same amount of luck here and there and not to many injuries to the key few we should be there or there abouts again.

All we need is a good start until everyone coming back gets fully match fit.

Liverpool are a different animal we the front 3 are playing. If they all stay injury free for the most part along with alisson and van dijk we will challenge.

If not city may win it at a canter because at the moment we are the only team that look close to them.

Spurs have a chance if erikson and toby stay. Or if they do leave replace them with quality additions. Spurs have by far the tougher first 10 games out of the 3.


 

 

 

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There’s hope on Clyne. Chelsea have asked their lawyers to check the small print on their ban to see if they are allowed to sign players from the knickers yard who probably won’t play this year. 🙈🤣.


 

 

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Missed the word “ever so reliable ECHO”

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Best of luck to him. He still faces a challenge to get into their first team but at least he will get some premier league minutes.


 

 

 

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I was watching on NBC sports and only 60 seconds before they were saying “can you believe Adrian, only a few months ago he was training with a 6th tier Spanish team and look at him now. A super cup hero and doesn’t look out of place in the premier league. ”

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Keita looked lively and sharp Virgil. I hope he becomes a headache in a good way for Klopp because he was always the one expected to be No1 on the midfield team sheet but Fabinho took that crown imo but Naby finally at his best would be a lovely headache.


 

 

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05 Aug 2019 16:24:56
Great move for the player, a decent patrias and an improvement on the current CBs at the club.

That’s where the similarities with Virgil end. As an England player I wish him a healthy season but beyond that he’s got the pressure of not only the price tag but also the pressure of expectancy of the squad and fans as that’s a team in one hell of a mess. They potentially have a lot of players still to come in, in a very short time and some key players wanting to leave.

They will alway have a very skilled team on the pitch that’s full of internationals and quality but Ole’s dilemma is how and if the want aways can be accommodated if they don’t get their wish before the deadline and it’s a tough spot for a manger who has probably had a fairly serious drama free career so far.