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24 Jun 2019 19:13:17
Afternoon Eds.

The Times (via Paul Joyce) are running a story about Mignolet, they say the decision has been made that he is staying for the coming season.

Do you have any further info on him at all?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry - nothing new.}


1.) 24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so i’d be very happy if it was true.


2.) 24 Jun 2019 22:05:16
I can only assume we will allow him to go IF we find a replacement and IF the offer is right for both us and Mignolet.

As much as I love his commitment and putting the team first, surely he needs to be looking for 1st team football elsewhere?


 

 

05 May 2019 00:40:23
I have heard from a contact that Klopp has a keen interest in Leroy Sane and as part of his planning for the summer (should a space become available due to a first team player leaving) he has asked to be keep in the loop on the players situation.

Have any of the Ed's heard similar? The guy who told me isn't your typical moron and does hear reliable info occasionally about various teams.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously Sane was an option in the past - going forward if Mane were to leave this summer Sane might be considered again by the club - but I am not aware of any approach to Manchester City asking to be "kept informed" at all.}


1.) 05 May 2019 10:32:35
I would love Sane in our team but you must be smoking something over there if you think Guardiola would sell him to us for a reasonable price!


2.) 05 May 2019 10:36:55
No chance unless Mane goes which is unlikely since Real will probably get Hazard.
Plus I doubt we have that sort of money City would want to part ways with him.


3.) 05 May 2019 11:27:18
Cover for the front three is definitely what we need. Sane is unrealistic, I'd take a chance on Zaha from palace. Can play wide and upfront, he's not lazy. Maybe worth a look reds?


4.) 05 May 2019 12:27:20
Does anyone know .....

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page, this is the Liverpool page.}


5.) 05 May 2019 12:43:29
LiverpoolFC8, I think Zaha has found his natural level at Crystal Palace. I don’t think he is good enough for Liverpool. But who would have thought Robbo would turn out this good?


6.) 05 May 2019 12:53:55
the way to San Jose?


7.) 05 May 2019 13:32:30
Nicolas pepe, or chuckweeze of villareal for me.


8.) 05 May 2019 14:56:23
Big Ed001, would you shell out for CAM next season if you were a manager? Assuming we don't lose any players to transfers.
Or would you try out some of the youth that looks good at the moment? Kent/ Wilson/ Brewster?

{Ed001's Note - Brewster is not really a CAM from what I have seen. Kent is nowhere near good enough and I have my doubts about Wilson. It really depends on who goes as to who we need to buy though.}


9.) 05 May 2019 20:55:18
Kent is gone, Wilson will probably have pre season to prove himself.

I think lallana should go and get regular game time somewhere else but i doubt people will want someone who spends so much time on the treatment table. it's unfortunate as he does offer something different when he doesn't dally on the ball.

Shaqiri, difficult one as ed says he was good at the start then Klopp got frustrated with him but apparently now he is firing on all cylinders, so we shall see he is a useful option but if we can get a decent return then maybe.

I am assuming we will look to bring someone in, to help cover the front line as well as we are severly short up front for back up/ other options.

Brewster is looking sharp in training and i have high hopes for him but sturridge is gone.


10.) 06 May 2019 09:49:33
The Juicer I see you have watched Helix haha
Anyway I can’t see city ever selling any of their first team players to us especially Sane.


 

 

04 Jan 2019 21:23:05
Is there any foreseeable way that we choose to keep Ings at the end of his loan period rather than complete the move?

As in a solid amount of form that would be comparable with our 2nd string CF or the sale of Sturridge and Solanke and Danny offered a chance to rotate/ challenge with Bobby?

I guess I wouldn't have considered it until Solanke was sold but I don't see Sturridge or Origi being real alternatives that can ever challenge and surely you need that to maintain a hungry and sharp CF. (Not doubting bobby in that area, just thinking as a whole in a squad)

{Ed002's Note - Sure, make an offer to buy him off Southampton after they buy him. You all seem to have forgotten that Solanke has not played this season. Ings if he returns won't play. May as well sell Brewster as he has zero chance with Liverpool fans clutching at straws.}


1.) 04 Jan 2019 23:12:48
I think Brewster is going to be a good one. He seems to be a natural goal scorer.

Whether or not he can make the step up time will tell but i have a good feeling about him and curtis jones also.

I think both will see some serious game time next season.

Im also intrigued by lewis. He's good some good reviews. Cover for robertson next season should see him get a game here and there as well.


2.) 05 Jan 2019 01:12:16
Southampton have an obligation to buy Ings at the end of the season, and it works really well for them since he has been their best player this season. 18 million is a snip for them considering Bournemouth shelled out 20 for Solanke.


3.) 05 Jan 2019 08:30:30
I think most fans liked Ings and really wanted him to succeed at Liverpool but it just didn’t work out through injuries but also to me the style of play. It’s a good move for Ings and good money for Liverpool. I would rather have the money for both Ings and Solanke to invest into one player than have them both or to have Ings back then us fans still wanting a so called higher profile player for Ings to be left on the bench never getting any game time again so why look to bring him back and let’s instead look for a new player for the future.


4.) 05 Jan 2019 09:22:56
Ings didn’t suit our style of play 1 but can’t knock the lad he gave 110% . Same for solanke I think if we are in for a forward it will be a player that can play various positions as Klopp likes the forwards to interchange upfront so I think mobility and awareness are a must in any future forward signing .


5.) 05 Jan 2019 09:46:52
I hope Brewster is learning to play a role across the front 3 because that's the only way I see him getting game time really. A simple one-dimensional striker - like a Sturridge or Solanke - however good they are really won't thrive with our current style of play. And I've no idea how much we ended up paying for Solanke but that sale price seems like a cracking deal for us.


6.) 05 Jan 2019 10:27:29
Brewster is more like Firmino. Presses from the front, pulls into the channels, drops deep to create etc. Certainly not one dimensional.


7.) 05 Jan 2019 10:32:20
Perfect fit then MK. I've never seen him play so couldn't comment really, hope he comes good and gets decent game time.


8.) 05 Jan 2019 09:11:41
What happens to Ings if Southampton get relegated?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


9.) 05 Jan 2019 09:26:02
I hadn’t forgotten that Solanke hasn’t played ED but I haven’t seen anything that hinted at him being sold either so it came out of the blue and that then made me question if that has cause a change in the Ings situation (especially given that he has shown form where he is) .

The answer seems to be no and that’s fine, just a question.

{Ed002's Note - How can it cause a change in the Ings situation?}


10.) 05 Jan 2019 13:38:23
I thought they'd have learn't after the Brad Smith and Jordan Ibe transfers. What is it with Bournemouth paying us more than most would expect for our young players that haven't worked out? I wish Solanke all the best, but it does feel like those transfers in the past.


11.) 05 Jan 2019 13:57:43
We've got good transfer fees on both Ings and Solanke. The Eds won't get into the details of the exact amounts but it does represent good business on two players who will hardly play.

I do worry slightly about squad depth overall but with Origi and Sturridge as back up they were not needed.


12.) 05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


13.) 05 Jan 2019 22:42:47
I’d be quite happy to only have Brewster as back up I don’t see why we need 3 strikers on the bench. brewster will get to be around the first team and actually get chances to play. as Ed002 said in the sharkopod the German teams are looking at young English players, I would think a lot of them will have seen what jadon sancho has achieved by going to Dortmund and might quite fancy the opportunity themselves.


 

 

 

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02 Jun 2019 21:17:24
There was a mention a while back that it would not totally be out of the question for Keita to leave this window due to various reasons.

Bruno Fernandes has been mentioned and ED2 has made it clear the he looks Manchester bound and would be too pricey for us and would need to be a starter etc.

Fernandes made a pretty strong comment today re our team, that being we are his favourite premier league team and we play better football than City. That writes off City as a prospective employer and also seems misguided if he is going Utd, bad choice of words as best if he is to make friends up there.

Anyway, point of the post:

1: Is there any more info on Nabys future? Any indication things are still not great?

2: Was that just a schoolboy error by Fernandes or is there another reason for the sudden public kudos for us vs other prem teams?

{Ed002's Note - (1) No. (2) I don't know what BF has said, but critically what question was he asked, and by whom?}


1.) 02 Jun 2019 22:21:16
I read it somewhere before the final. The thing is, quite a number of players talked about Liverpool before any transfer and I can't remember any of them joining in the end.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 22:26:58
I found the original quotes in the Portuguese press where Fernandes talks about both Liverpool an Man City. After talking about City's style of play, he's quoted as saying:

"Gosto muito do Liverpool também" before talking about us for a bit.

The Daily Star appear to have translated that as stating he prefers Liverpool to Man City. Google translates it more neutrally, as "I like Liverpool a lot too". Anyone here speak Portuguese and can advise?

I wouldn't read a lot into it anyway.

{Ed002's Note - But what was the question he was asked?}


3.) 02 Jun 2019 22:30:16
In an interview on Friday with De Cadeirinha he was asked about speculation linking him with the PL and he refused to discuss it. The he was asked what he thought of the league and what teams does he prefer. He said this:

I like Liverpool a lot more. It’s a more direct, more offensive, maybe less organised, but more intense football. When you do not have the ball possession you are more intense. ’

‘In Liverpool they are more individual players, especially in the midfield, usually playing three very aggressive players and recovering the ball. Then they have three players at the front who are lethal. When they have the opportunity, to be the difference. ’


As I said, could be misguided/ misplaced if he is headed to United but high praise for us when he was given a chance to sing the praises of any team. The Keita question was just because I remember it being mentioned and there is no way we even look at a big money midfielder unless a starter goes and he is the only slight possibility by my reading of past posts.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks for that. I have explained that there is Liverpool interest and I guess around €90M might get him. As I have said, the AM role is the one I think Liverpool still need to address.}


4.) 02 Jun 2019 23:32:52
But he is most probably on his way to Manchester.


5.) 03 Jun 2019 06:19:30
Is he any good, ed001? Can't say I've seen him play but he's scored 20 goals and nabbed 13 assists this season which is impressive, albeit in a weaker league.

{Ed001's Note - looks it.}


6.) 03 Jun 2019 09:01:17
31 goals in all comps and 19 assists. What's impressive is he's played often as a box to box CM and he works his socks off, lacks any sort of pace and dribbling threat but he's got quality vision, passing, crossing, set pieces, and strikes a sweet ball. His style is probably similar to de bruynes strengths. The main worry for me would be that the Portuguese league in recent years has seen so many of the top performers not able to cut it in the big leagues. His price tag is double his realistic current value though.


7.) 03 Jun 2019 02:16:09
Ed002 do you feel that this 90m fee will actually be met? Would Sporting flat out reject any lower offers? Surely 50 or 60m would tempt them as a realistic offer, or do you think that a club will be silly enough to pay 90?

{Ed002's Note - They will be open to negotiating but €90M is what they have asked of the club Sporting are talking to - so perhaps something in the rgion of €75M to €80M would get a deal agreed - but certainly not €50M.}


 

 

02 Jun 2019 09:40:47
I have a feel that was Salahs last game for us.

Not a troll and very much in line with what Ed2 has been saying re Mo's agent all but begging RM to take him. Not sure why you wouldn't want to stay at the Champions of Europe (apart from money) but something tells me he is off (PSG maybe after they sell some- Even Juve? ) and I get the feeling Mane won't be too sad.

We would of course get a world class replacement and go again.


1.) 02 Jun 2019 10:15:36
Seriously? That's what you are thinking about right now?
Salah is not leaving. Real are spending all their money on Pogba and Hazard, Juve i very much doubt can stomach how much he would cost, and PSG? Seriously? Didn't know Salah dreamt of winning Ligue 1 titles.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 10:22:04
Can we just enjoy that this point and not think about losing players 🤦🏻‍♂️.


3.) 02 Jun 2019 10:22:30
I'd be very surprised to be honest if he leaves this summer. We would demand a huge fee and that would only be considered if he would make attempts to force out id imagine. I don't know what his financial or lifestyle ambitions are but he seems happy as a red from the outset. I'm sure he'll move on in the future at some stage but this summer would shock me, I'm sure it's just his agent doing his job to promote his client around the possible market.


4.) 02 Jun 2019 10:24:22
I'm not sure PSG and Juventus are much of an upgrade on us unless he wants an easy League title each year. Real Madrid need a massive rebuild which will probably take a couple of years at least and their fans have a habit of booing strikers who don't score ten goals a game. Barcelona probably his best bet if he wants a move but they may not be interested.


5.) 02 Jun 2019 10:37:50
Don’t think you realise how big LFC are in world football

With Jurgen leading us and sensible backing from the owners we are on track to eclipse Barcelona as a global brand.

We have the chance over the next few years to be the number one club in football.

We are in the best league we play brilliant football we have Anfield and we are going to be after number 7

If Mo doesn’t want that then fine but really who wouldn’t want to be getting on board for that ride?

Allez Allez Allez.


6.) 02 Jun 2019 10:43:36
Some people honestly. Yeah salah looked unhappy to me last night. Sorry but ed2 might have his / her opinions on the salah situation but I think it's in hope that the ed wants him to move on. If he does go we move on we are Liverpool our world won't come tumbling down. Get a grip an enjoy your day an keep off the green stuff mate.


7.) 02 Jun 2019 10:44:33
Leave if you want but It's all downhill, ask Coutinho.


8.) 02 Jun 2019 10:45:39
I am enjoying the win, I’m not sure how me having an opinion on a player leaving takes the shine off a win of that size?

I didn’t say would go Real Madrid, I said he wanted to go there. If you have a player who doesn’t want to play for you a business must make a judgement call. The wisest thing to do for the team is to capitalise on your investment, he would be one of the highest valued players in the world so why not sell the stock while on a high and give yourself the chance to purchase a comparable replacement.

Maybe he stays for another season and hope his dream move happens next season? If I was Klopp and there was a top or slightly younger alternative who he fancied I’d opt for a player who wants to be here. We’ve seen plenty mentioned on our wish list and get told, “if Salah or Mane leave. ” I’m just saying that it would not be a surprise at all now if Salah pushed a move though on a high.


9.) 02 Jun 2019 10:48:30
No player is bigger than this club, this team and manager. If someone wants to go at the start of something special than see ya. We look forward to knocking you out of Europe.


10.) 02 Jun 2019 10:53:15
Bizarre reaction to winning the final. Find it hard to believe you're not a troll, but assuming you're not. Ed002 has repeatedly said Salah's agent was laughed out of madrid and that they have other first choice targets. Not sure why you'd ignore that if you're going off what he's said.


11.) 02 Jun 2019 11:01:55
I pity for you we have just won 6 European Cups and your posting negative posts, for gods sake "enjoy" the win every true LFC Fan is, suggest you get on the Train it has not reached its destination yet only just left the platform.

P. S. Bet Buck Rodgers is gutted he wanted to sell Henderson to Fulham?


12.) 02 Jun 2019 11:14:06
I think it would be a surprise though becker. I know if Madrid come calling it's hard for anybody to say no, but it depends on what mo wants himself. Many powerhouse clubs have hit the point of needing rebuild. Bayern Barcelona Madrid need to plan to get back to stable success. They are constantly changing managers and need to settle, juve too are a step behind and PSG also when competing in Europe. He would be taking a risk moving to a club in his peak years who aren't yet set up to be the best. He should play for us and try achieve the historic league medal and maybe in a year or 2 if a huge club are set up to be successful his move would be less risk. That's only what I think is best for his football career but of course there's so much more that players consider.


13.) 02 Jun 2019 11:20:29
Couldn’t care either way, wouldn’t lose any sleep. We are built on hard work and team spirit not superstar egos (not saying Salah has a huge ego) . We’ve been through this with Coutinho and Suarez and look where we are last night. If these players want to move on then so be it, I’d rather support the likes of Milner, Hendo and Robbo. players who love wearing the red jersey!
Anyway, for now it’s time to celebrate last nights achievements! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆.


14.) 02 Jun 2019 11:38:08
Salah said to BT sport that he's staying because he said he wants to win it next year.


15.) 02 Jun 2019 11:38:23
Thanks for at least understanding the point I made Har. Some seem to forget it’s a rumours page and there’s no deny he looked off.

I’d prefer he stay and play with his head up and 100% but I am being realistic. There is no other bigger team in Europe (other than City) so he would be taking a step back / sideways at best.

I am enjoying the 6 but reflecting on something that is clearly an issue and one that needs to be sorted post season one way or another. Get your head back in the team or let us make good money off of you and find someone who does want to play for us.


16.) 02 Jun 2019 11:39:34
Maybe I'm too loyal and don't properly understand the concept of players as transient employees, and I am aware his agent's been touting him, but I'm going to wait until Salah puts in a transfer request, feigns a back injury, refuses to play or train or just generally stops giving a toss on the pitch before I start willing him out the door.


17.) 02 Jun 2019 11:58:00
Get your heads together lads . We just won the European cup stop pissing on the parade nothing else at our club matters right now let’s enjoy the moment eh.


18.) 02 Jun 2019 12:30:43
Left off TAA Welsh. What a tremendous representative of the club. Boyhood dream comes true.


19.) 02 Jun 2019 13:18:23
The question that spings to my mind every time something like this comes up is this.
Who would actually choose to live in England? Especially considering having options like Spain or Italy, and that wherever you go it's going to be in the nicer areas.


20.) 02 Jun 2019 13:22:30
Salah is going nowhere. Forget the days of bately qualifyinh for cl. We are european royalty and reigning champions. Who would want to leave. He was a o happy last night. He isn't going anywhere.


21.) 02 Jun 2019 13:16:53
Err OP, you know when they say, "Timing is everything"? Maybe you should employ this reasoning nest time cos after we just have a season of a lifetime. After we just won our SIXTH CL trophy and all the history that comes with it, this is what is more important to you right now?


22.) 02 Jun 2019 15:46:25
Exactly Red, I agree with you.

After the season of a lifetime and winning the CL you'd expect our so called best player to

A: Want to stay
B: Show the loyalty that we put in him

I really have no interest in comments questioning my timing or lack of enjoyment, if you couldn't see that the guy wants 100% in his attitude or play then you are deluding yourself. I have the brainpower to celebrate MY team winning the champions league but at the same time want a quick resolution to a serious problem. Mane and Firminho need someone who is 100% on the same. page and you saw in their faces at actions coming off at HT that they were not happy with him.

8 weeks until the start of the season. If he is going it needs sorting and his replacing within the next 3-4 weeks so i’d prefer to not waste time. Similar if he wants to stay, some responding and building between the front 3 is needed.

None of you are the klopp, the owners or Salahs team so don’t let it ruin your enjoyment of the season.


23.) 03 Jun 2019 00:46:11
Enjoy the moment.

Enjoy the moment.

Smile. Six times.


 

 

08 May 2019 12:37:39
What a glorious morning to be a red (and we still haven't won anything)

Quick question for Ed2 if possible. A lot has been said and touched upon by yourself regarding Liverpool's tight financials. These are complex and a struggle for fans to fathom but I take from what you have said over the months that we are maxed out currently. A CL win is financially beneficial of course and without quoting numbers of our deficit or gains from a win could you give me an indication as how much of an actual relief it will be to the current situation. Without quoting figures would it potentially be 10/ 15/ 20% of our current debt as a total return for all elements that we gain from a win? I won't ask the same question for a league win as that isn't realistic imo.

{Ed002's Note - It depends what the club decides to do with regards to paying off third party and owner debt - but the club are constrained in respect of additional monies that can be provided by the owners.}


1.) 08 May 2019 13:08:46
Thanks. I guess it’s a positive either way but I did think from what you have said previous that debt would/ should be a priority. I was just trying to get a grasp on the reality before the expected cries for £200 mil plus worth of new players if we win.

{Ed002's Note - The debt should be addressed. The owners obviously have the option to turn the debt in to equity but you must remember that they are an investment fund out to make money.}


2.) 08 May 2019 13:24:01
There is a school of thought that suggests having an amount of debt is an efficient means of running a business, however I don't know what the actual level is within the club and whether or not it's gone beyond the tipping point for good debt Vs bad debt.

{Ed002's Note - Well obviously Liverpool can decide to ignore FFP and take whatever consequences there are.}


3.) 08 May 2019 14:24:29
Works for City Ed002 tee hee.

{Ed002's Note - How did it work for Manchester City?}


4.) 08 May 2019 14:36:04
With FFP around now, having debt has become a delicate issue.


 

 

07 May 2019 16:05:52
Brewster is being let off the leash tonight. The kid has nothing to prove and all to gain.

2+ Brewster goals is 12/ 1 - I'm throwing my support and money behind the lad.

Make yourself a hero!


1.) 07 May 2019 16:31:16
12/ 1 is that it?!

The bookies clearly worried about a romping.


2.) 07 May 2019 16:45:01
I’d think twice about 12/ 1 if it were mane to score twice, that’s awful odds for someone who may not even play, and hasn’t played this season.


3.) 07 May 2019 16:57:01
The kid is a goal scoring machine with faultless stats at every level. The bookies aren’t silly, they see natural talent. No pressure on him here for me, I think he will go out and enjoy it and a striker who enjoys their game has the potential to score plenty. Sod it, I’ll have a bit on the 3+ at 66/ 1 as well.


4.) 07 May 2019 17:36:30
Bookies don't see natural talent. Do you think they are spying at Liverpools training ground? I will be stunned if he starts and it will be the biggest shock ever if he gets 2 goals. The wee lad hasn't even played 1 minute of first team football this season and you think he is going to run Barcelona amoke? he's not Messi.


5.) 07 May 2019 18:31:56
bookies see talent? lol more like they see dollars coming from gullible punters haha.


6.) 07 May 2019 19:02:48
We are 3 down to Barcelona, we can all agree that we need a miracle. Apologies for daring to dream and for giving you what would be the best kind of miracle.

It wasn’t a tip and for the record his goal to game ratio is public knowledge so the bookies don’t need to spy and quite a few people also know he won the golden boot at the WC. Dare to dream folks, have some hope. That’s all we have left now.


7.) 07 May 2019 21:16:22
well its 2-0 now, whos dreaming? This is why I love Liverpool. and as I type its 3-0!


 

 

24 Apr 2019 11:38:29
I've been critical of some replies by Ed02 in the past and we have butted heads but on some self reflection I didn't appreciate what must be the exhaustive frustration he gets when trying to share legitimate views and information at a level that won't confuse or wind up the less than intelligent faction of the forum.

The insane fall out from the Klopp comment is a prime example. He has for years (when the events actually happened) explained what was done wrong and right in approaches and sales and it's no surprise to long time readers that Klopp has been unprofessional at best in his general transfer conduct.

Let's put the benefit of knowledge and experience together with the years of valid explanations and accept that Ed knows better than us and wouldn't make it up.

Thanks to ALL the Eds for a mainly thankless and difficult job in dealing with us lot. It really is appreciated.


1.) 24 Apr 2019 12:02:15
We all love Klopp he’s doing great things on the pitch for us and really assembling a group of players that could have us competing at the top for years. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have his faults whatever they may be. Why should we deny he has these faults. He won’t be the first and last player/ coach to have negatives but still be loved by fans. But Ed’s is pointing out facs and facts that many of us have no idea about and that’s why we read this forum in the first place. We can’t have everything as butterfly’s and rainbows sometimes we will read things we don’t like but that’s life and that’s the way it is. People need to grow up except things for what they are and greatful we get the information in the first place.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 12:29:41
It's just to take the focus off the fact we are brilliant at the minute. Let's concentrate on winning the league and Champions League instead of listening to drivel. Believe.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 12:37:04
Mourinho cheated and hid in a laundry basket, Clough punched several of his own fans. The list goes on. Klopp has deceived authorities and whatever else he did and Ed002 has an opinion on him which is fair enough. I for one don't really care, I don't know klopp personally and never will so I don't "like" or "dislike" him. He is just the manager of the team I support and that's it. People shouldn't take things so personally.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 13:18:37
Well said stuie. I tend to think Ed002 has his nose out of joint about much of what we lfc fans tend to think. I also think this is largely warranted. Klopp is no saint and ed knows this more than any of us do, so cos we need his info more than he needs our attitude, just pull your heads in lads.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 13:31:00
The way I see it, the ed's put a hell of a lot of work into this site, and provide us with information that we cannot get anywhere else. They are human beings (at least, most of them are), and they have their own views, morals and opinions. If any Ed expresses these views and you disagree with them, don't get pi$$y about it and attack the person who gave us their views, be confident enough in your own opinions to (silently) disagree and move on. If I were in Ed002's clown shoes, I would have snapped a long time ago, listening to all the crap he gets (and all the crap he gets that never even reaches the site for us to see), and I would almost definitely try my best to wind up and call out anyone who decided to take a personal shot at me for expressing my opinions on a site that I help run!

If you ran a shop, and had a steady stream of customers coming in and abusing you, you'd shut the doors and never open them again. let's hope the Ed's of this site never do the metaphorical equivalent.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 13:46:46
Wow Rugby, a fan using a metaphor! Wonders will never cease 😀.


7.) 24 Apr 2019 14:04:52
I don't mind his opinion. But we know it. And I feel it doesn't need racking up every few months. As it's common knowledge and we all including Ed002 know it's going to cause problems! Cringe to say it. But c'mon Utd!


8.) 24 Apr 2019 14:29:09
Theres a few people on the site who can't take any criticism of Liverpool, be it a fair critique or just banter. Its a shame, but it happens. Its a small minority but a couple of them seem to have multiple accounts which explains the downvotes. Either way its never great to see the eds (Ed002 and Ed025) in particular on the receiving ends of it with the work they put in.

It also extends to some posters. I regularly see Salah's incredibly innocuous posts down voted for seemingly no reason. Not sure what possesses people to be like that but its worth taking a step back sometimes and gathering a little perspective.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 15:30:18
Exactly Coco9.


 

 

 

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24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so i’d be very happy if it was true.


 

 

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16 Jun 2019 18:51:21
Fair point Har. He’s another name that we know klopp is keen on so quiet easily could be in the mix if Salah stays another year and we miss out on Pepe. Any idea on his current situation Eds? Does he have plans to move on just yet and do we still consider him a person of interest?


 

 

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16 Jun 2019 17:18:41
This thread was going well until I got to ”we have a replacement for Salah in Origi. ”.


 

 

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16 Jun 2019 13:08:09
Ed, what are the chances that we would buy before he leaves? I do appreciate that Ed2 is strong on the “when Salah goes” so it’s not the expected plan of action.

Down sides being that the incoming player would be getting less game time and that Mo would also have his nose pushed out by sharing a role. Also is the obvious that we would be paying millions for a 1 season rotation player.

My uneducated thought is that the upside gives you quality in rotation to allow for a Mo wobble and not only that you know he is going in at least 9/ 10 months anyway so it’s a short term over investment that protects your position with a guaranteed return in less than a year. The incoming player is also well aware that he is the future and that the other player will be leaving. Again, as someone from a non football background but a grasp of business it would seem the safest option in such a massive season and could also be valuable in coverage across the whole front.

{Ed001's Note - it is a very expensive way to do business though. It is only likely to happen when the club expect him to go and it would be more a case of the move away falling through, so we end up with both, rather than being a plan.}


 

 

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16 Jun 2019 12:33:17
I said this after the CL final Har. In possibly the biggest game of his career you saw glimpses of that attitude and you could see the reaction in Bobby and Manes face, they were not happy. There’s a shot of Bobby moaning hard at Mo as they walk off at HT.

It’s such a tough call hence why I asked the managerial angle question of the Ed’s. I like you believe in them to not only make the right decision but to also be well prepared now they know he could soften his contractual demands any time and probably get a bite. What turned me off the guy was that it was always his “dream” to play for RM and that was the team he tried to get to last year and again this year but now he must have some sleep issues because he now hasn’t another couple of “dream” clubs. That’s the point when you realise his head is elsewhere and with an already less than perfect relationship with Klopp you feel it’s getting to the end of the road.


 

 

 

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21 Jun 2019 08:20:28
Thanks Ed, a good real as always.

What is Kompany playing at? He must know that Bellamy is a car crash waiting to happen? Maybe he's invested in a chain of golf club shops and needs some stock moving.

AFC Wimbledon v Milton Keynes Dons should be a good game, time hasn't healed those wounds.

{Ed001's Note - they are good friends and Bellamy just needs a bit of guidance. He is not a bad lad at heart, just an arse when he drinks and sadly he tends to drink too much.}


 

 

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17 Jun 2019 14:11:46
Klopp is still interested in Same, is being kept informed on the situation with Bayern and he is still being considered in case Salah leaves. It is unlikely due to the club he is at but with Bayern not being keen at paying £90 million we could very easily make an approach IF Mo did suddenly decide to go. This is from a solid source and I've shared this for over a month.

I appreciate his negatives but Klopp does like him and we have no choice but to trust in him.


 

 

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16 Jun 2019 18:57:36
Lovely. It makes you appreciate the human side to these lads. Behind every player we praise, slag off, hope to join us or want see leave, there is a man and his family. Long may these guys have reasons to make their families proud.


 

 

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11 Jun 2019 10:15:53
I keep seeing these comments putting Fab in the Ok to Good bracket, I just don't get the marking down of what was clearly a huge amount of development and confidence building that resulted in him being the best midfielder in our squad.

If he stays at the same level and God forbid he improves he is one of the first names on the sheet and crucial in the spine of the team. We couldn't afford to buy a better in his position and I struggle to think of anyone who could walk into his role in this league and be that much better. All the hype was over Naby but Fab came in quietly, worked hard, got his head around the tactics and league and its paid off big time.


 

 

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09 Jun 2019 17:50:21
First midfielder* on the team sheet that is, before I get the obvious replies.