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26 Jun 2024 14:16:47
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25 Jun 2024 19:34:55
Seen some rumours Man Utd have bid for Ugarte. Has our interest ended since the tapping up or is he player we still may make a move for.
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{Ed002's Note - Manuel Ugarte (DM) Agent has said that the player and PSG may be open to a move if the right offer is made. He has spoken with Chelsea but it is difficult to see if they have a need. He has also spoken with Manchester United, Juventus, Newcastle, Milan, Spurs and Arsenal. I suspect Italy is the most likely destination but PSG might see any sale being dependent on adding Guimaraes although, right now, he appears to be heading elsewhere.}
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26 Jun 2024 10:51:14
Thank you Ed002.
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26 Jun 2024 12:05:34
Sorry to ask here, Ed002. I searched the other pages, is city most likely for Guimaraes?
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{Ed002's Note - Yes, they are one of the interested sides and very keen.}
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25 Jun 2024 16:41:37
Hi edds, Muhammed kudus is a rumour that keeps popping up. Anybody heard anything on this. Thanks for your time.
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{Ed002's Note - Mohammed Kudus (AM) West Ham are not looking to sell but an offer over £70M could tempt them and the player is keen to move on. Manchester United are keen but see the cost as far too high. Chelsea and Newcastle interest went last summer when he signed for West Ham. Brighton interest went during transfer negotiations. May be of interest to Michael Emanalo. I am not aware of Liverpool showing any interest.}
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25 Jun 2024 18:40:57
It looks like VVD will come home early. Absolutely shambolic defending. Playing everyone on side for that third goal.
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25 Jun 2024 18:54:36
What an utterly rubbish player! Sell immediately!
Methinks some posters just really get a dopamine rush from sticking it to our players.
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25 Jun 2024 18:58:16
Just saw that. He was extremely deep!
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25 Jun 2024 19:13:22
Imagine the disappointment to find out you’ve finished third to the elation that you will possibly play England in the next round.
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25 Jun 2024 19:19:46
I swear some people are desperate to criticize our own players.
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25 Jun 2024 19:25:56
I am sorry but what part of my post triggered your little ego @Patrik?
Watch that third goal again. He could see all his teammates two yards infront of him and yet stayed deep. He is 34 and doesn’t possess the blistering pace anymore. We will sell him at some point. You going to revolt then pal?
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25 Jun 2024 19:28:10
I think there's no option but to terminate the contracts of the entire first team. I'm pretty sure all of them have been deemed useless or past it by a boffin here at this point.
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{Ed025's Note - im the only one who sticks up for them SR.. :)
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25 Jun 2024 19:39:24
Actually Jaguar, I think you will find that he is in fact 32 years old. I think you simply rushed to your computer to bash Virgil when he made that boo-boo. He didn't have the best of games and he should be holding the line and directing his fellow defenders better, but I'm not sure what gratification you get from running to your keyboard to say how bad he was? That's what I'm talking about. Also, you should know that Holland already went through to the next round before the game even started.
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25 Jun 2024 19:52:34
It does amuse me that on a rumors site, we have one side coddling 'their players', protecting them from the devastation and hardships of the world. And, on the other, we have people ready to bear arms and assault the players at a seconds notice, should they ever meet.
I honestly see no issue with criticizing players, or defending them, but a lot of posters take this so darn personally. Like, relax, it's a rumors site, not the gates to heaven.
Like, what did you expect on a rumors site, open for public usage? For everyone to conform to your opinion, for it to be the universal truth, and that anyone that says otherwise is a heathen.
Then again I'm the guy that smashed my PS5 controller against a wall yesterday, when I died to a boss for the 30th time. So, who am I to judge?
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{Ed025's Note - I think you are spot on MANGO. And a bit of a hooligan it seems 🤣..
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25 Jun 2024 19:57:39
Could be England Netherlands this weekend. Don't fancy England at all.
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{Ed025's Note - I think we will whack them RF. people from Holland know sod all about football mate .. 🤣
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25 Jun 2024 19:58:11
He just turn 33 Harold.
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25 Jun 2024 20:13:02
Personally i only have any interest in the matches with L'pool players in them, and tune in hoping they do well. Mistake outa virg for the 3rd but been very good overall and Gakpo's banging them in from the left. Seen as trents been scapegoated i hope holland crucify england if they meet.
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25 Jun 2024 20:25:08
@Patrik. Apparently, I didn’t knew the rules of this page mate lol. Are we not supposed to say when a player is performing bad 😁.
Honestly VVD has had a terrible Euros so far and I honestly don’t know how to say this lol.
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25 Jun 2024 20:52:02
England v Holland.
The battle of two good teams managed by circus clowns.
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25 Jun 2024 21:01:16
It’s more the exaggerated hyperbole MANGO. I’m all for criticising players and performances. But balance is important. As is perspective.
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25 Jun 2024 21:34:03
Goals were not VVD fault though, you can blame him for not organizing the defence better and fire up his team mates like Henderson/ Milner. Thankfully I am not from Holland but from the south east of The Netherlands :-) so I do not feel offended that I know sod all about football ;-)
By the way, following this site for about 5-10 years, and my first post now! Liverpool fan since April 1989 . and looking forward to Slot as coach although I do not follow much Dutch football really.
England vs The Netherlands would be great. But . you play worse than us, at least the Dutch scored 2 today!
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25 Jun 2024 21:41:43
typo, fan since 1979.
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25 Jun 2024 22:31:27
@MK, can you exaggerate hyperbole? Isn’t hyperbole itself an exaggeration? Asking in the spirit of this being the banter page 👍
@Jaguar, I think there is a feeling that the person providing an opinion that is negative is sometimes seen as a person who has never made a mistake themselves, and but for the grace of God would be out at the Euros, in this case, playing CB for the Dutch. In this case I suspect VVD is aware and is obviously better than this mistake.
On a different note, the Denmark vs Serbia game was woeful.
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25 Jun 2024 23:38:08
@MANGO, I take it the Elden Ring DLC isn't going well?
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25 Jun 2024 23:58:28
Mango - what killed you 30 times? You on a soulsborne?
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26 Jun 2024 02:00:16
Yes, fair to say the Elden Ring DLC is kicking my ass, in a major way.
Took me 2 hours to defeat Rellana Twin Moon Knight, I celebrate, leave the area and a massive Fire Giant thing greets me off in the distance, fair to say I sprinted back inside to a place of safety without a moments delay.
Having a blast though.
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26 Jun 2024 02:43:19
Critiquing the things a player does is totally fine. It goes overboard when people use said critique to then label the player (multiple trophy winner ) terrible. By no measure is he terrible, he just made a mistake.
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26 Jun 2024 07:15:46
I have no issue with people criticising players mango, I just find it interesting that folks seem to almost enjoy our players not doing well so they can post about it without at the same time taking into account what the larger circumstances are, virgil made a mistake yesterday but he was actually far from the worst defender for the Netherlands yesterday, geertruida wasn’t good either and de vrij was even worse. sure Virgil is their leader but the way Koeman has the team set up is failing every player on the pitch, to say Virgil was awful yesterday and having an awful tournament in general…by what standards are you evaluating that?
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26 Jun 2024 06:47:01
Feel like people have found a way WDW. Hyperbole would be saying “he’s a bad player” knowing full well you don’t get to the Prem if you are a bad player, and that is fine because it’s almost a throwaway comment and not really intended to be taken literally, but to be taken in the context of the debate.
However there seems to be a growing trend to go over the top even with the hyperbole and saying thinks like “he can’t defend” or “there is no position in football for him” or “he’s absolutely terrible”. Blah blah blah. Hyperbole is fine within reason to emphasise your point, but at a certain point it just comes off as nonsense. Maybe exaggerated is the wrong word, because you’re right, hyperbole is exaggeration by definition anyway. Maybe extreme hyperbole is what I should’ve said!
Either way, it’s much easier to take someone seriously if they break down a balanced argument. It comes across as a lack of intelligence when people drop a one liner calling someone awful without justification or caveating what you don’t like about them with what they do well at least. Just a bit of balance and perspective. I criticise players myself. I’m probably Gomez’s biggest detractor. But I still was quick to point out that his attitude is good, his versatility is useful, and I think he’s a decent enough back up right back for us.
People can say what they want at the end of the day. They just won’t be taken seriously if it’s constant over the top negativity. And that’s a shame because they probably could add some really interesting debate to the page if they expanded a bit on their negativity. We need different opinions to make the site worth visiting.
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26 Jun 2024 08:15:22
A defender who rarely puts a foot wrong has a bad day at the office. Nothing to see here.
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26 Jun 2024 09:21:25
It’s just the age we live in, mk. Somehow people think it’s okay to call players that play for opposing teams or even our own team rubbish, trash, deadwood and other such terms, given that they are garbage they are so subhumanly bad that they don’t deserve respect and denunciation of them doesn’t require qualification. Football is a consumer product and people just want instant customer satisfaction, all the human beings running around simply exist for your approbation, when they have outworn their purpose you can simply throw them away. Nuance or context isn’t necessary and counts for nothing besides the small hit of a rush you get for giving vent to hyperbole and getting a few likes in return.
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26 Jun 2024 09:51:48
Sadly PB, I think you nailed it. So much online nowadays is done or said for attention and validation in the form of likes.
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26 Jun 2024 11:36:05
As a person who has worked professionally with sportsmen and women of all types including footballers I can tell you they do read what people write, especially the younger ones.
So you have to ask as a fan, is it really helpful to destroy their confidence with badly or unarticulated insults? If you state for example, player x should have maybe done Z that is a perfectly fine way to critique, it's helpful. Saying he is rubbish, deadwood etc is literally the most unhelpful thing you can post and only does damage.
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26 Jun 2024 12:16:28
Spot on, MKS and PB. It's the age we live in. Some people have their flags firmly planted into the ground on the way they feel about certain player in mostly a negative fashion that it does not matter what they do, they can never do anything right in their eyes. Guys like Elliott, Darwin specifically suffer from this.
At the end of the day, if you continue to slag these players (cos yeah, doing that and destroying their confidence will definitely make them do better) at every turn, my next question to such people is, "Who do you love at the end of the day? Seriously, who do you love if all these players are trash?
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26 Jun 2024 13:20:42
Thank you for that insight Nevada. I don’t know why people pretend that in this age of technology the pro’s won’t see the lashings dished out online. You are spot on about constructive criticism but it’s getting to be closer to abuse than that, to be honest. If you search for “Liverpool runours” online this is one of the first that pops up. So it’d be very naive to think that none of our players have ever visited this site. I’d not be at all shocked if some a regularly reading it. And they will definitely be seeing the stuff posted on twitter and Facebook pages because that goes viral and everyone on the platform that the algorithm wants to will see it.
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26 Jun 2024 13:42:10
Im so confused as to the reaction to Jaguars original post.
Patrik, thunderbird etc. have wildly overreacted to what he said. He never said anything about selling him or he's not good enough or he's past it.
He simply just stated an observation, one of which was very true. For the 3rd goal, Van Dijk was shambolic, especially for a player of his quality and being the captain.
Does't mean to say he's not great or he doesn't love him as a player but players can mess up, it happens and Van Dijk did last night.
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25 Jun 2024 15:56:11
Murillo's name is doing the rounds again with Forest apparently needing to raise £20-£25M by Sunday to avoid another PSR punishment.
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25 Jun 2024 16:39:55
Decent young player to be fair. Bit rash defensively but very good on the ball. At 21 years old you'd expect there is scope for a good coach like Slot to improve him a lot. Be interesting to see what comes of this rumoured link. They wanted big money for him before this PSR concern.
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25 Jun 2024 17:55:21
Not convinced. Not a terrific defender, doesn’t win many challenges, can’t header the ball to save his life. Plus at 6ft he’s a bit short for a centre back in this country, not exactly what you’d call a dominant defender and that’s being generous. Might be good on the ball but if he can’t defend or win headers then he’s just a wasted transfer.
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25 Jun 2024 18:04:39
Viktor has spoken.
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25 Jun 2024 18:22:08
Wow. What a surprise, another player that Victor claims is rubbish.
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25 Jun 2024 18:56:06
I think he is a very very good player despite being a bit short. If he really does cost that much it would be excellent value for money methinks.
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25 Jun 2024 19:22:45
Viktor never tells you what players he likes, he's too scared to do that.
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25 Jun 2024 19:36:37
Martinez at United is 5ft9.
Thiago Silva at Chelsea is 6ft0.
Ake at Man City is 5ft11.
Timber at Arsenal is 5ft10.
Guehi at Palace is 6ft0.
Mee at Brentford is 5ft11.
Senesi at Bournemouth is 6ft0.
Holgate at Everton is 6ft0.
A lot of CB’s in the Prem are 6ft or shorter. It means nothing.
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25 Jun 2024 19:43:11
I think Viktor believes all footballers are a bit rubbish.
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25 Jun 2024 20:14:57
Except De Bruyne. nd haaland. nd Foden nd.
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25 Jun 2024 22:37:14
You ok @June🙂
@VV - hypothetical situation. Liverpool are going to buy a back-up keeper, a left sided defender, a defensive midfielder and a right sided attacker (preferably left footed) . Rather than list everybody you think is unsuitable, here’s the challenge, name the the four players you would sign.
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25 Jun 2024 23:20:07
A lot of the defenders you name MK are rubbish 😂.
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26 Jun 2024 02:49:38
Cannavaro is often cited as one of the best defenders of all time was 5 9. Height and speed aren't the most important attributes for defenders, timing and reading the game are.
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26 Jun 2024 06:57:05
Nevada, Puyol wasn’t tall either. Nor was Mascherano. Both played CB for Barcelona at the peak of their powers.
6GoldStars, that’s not really true is it pal. Holgate is pretty average hence why Everton loaned him out. Mee is decent but Brentford is his level. The rest are all good solid defenders. Martinez probably the best at United when fit. Silva been one of the best this generation. Senesi too good for Bournemouth. Timber looked very good when fit. Ake just won the league and knocked the taller Stones and Gvardiol out of CB. Guehi is a very good CB once he gets back to his best following that knee surgery. Aside from all that though, the point isn’t that shorter CB’s are better. The point is that 6ft isn’t really short for a CB. There are hundreds of examples if you expand the parameters out to Europeansnd lower league football as well. Martinez is probably short for a CB at 5ft9. I personally think 6ft or above is tall irrespective of the position you play in football.
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26 Jun 2024 08:09:20
They flight the ball lower in the continent for the smaller CBs 😂.
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26 Jun 2024 08:14:55
Like my missus said - it’s not about the size, it’s about the quality.
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26 Jun 2024 08:19:40
Sorry Adam, after watching 2 hours of paint drying last night my comment amused me more than it should have!
There will always be some exceptions, but a cb in my eyes should be taller than 6ft. They should be winning every header and every physical duel. There’s more to defending than physical dominance, but without it you really are struggling. We can agree to disagree, that’s cool. 😎.
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26 Jun 2024 09:24:49
It’s cool 6GS, you’re entitled to your opinion mate and who can blame you looking for entertainment, there certainly wasn’t’t any on ITV last night. I personally think smaller CB’s tend to be more effective at some aspects as they can generally turn and accelerate quicker. Helps with reacting to lose balls or recovery tackles. However the taller CB’s can generally dominate aerially and also have higher top speeds once they get into their stride which can help them thrive in a 1v1 battle. I don’t think it’s a defining factor if you’re a good player who knows how to make the most of the gifts you were given. The only defender to win the Balon D’or in my lifetime was the 5ft9 Cannavaro, but the only other one who came close was the 6ft4 Van Dijk. So height is a side note for me when discussing a players ability. I don’t care either way as long as you’re good at what you can do.
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26 Jun 2024 12:17:13
MKS, Murillo ain't ready to make the jump just yet, IMO.
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26 Jun 2024 13:44:09
I like that Murillo, especially at that price and age. I think it could be a shrewd signing that.
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24 Jun 2024 20:52:06
Hey Ed2, is there any possibility of Liverpool signing Sucic?
Many thanks for your work on the site👍.
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{Ed002's Note - RBS want a new contract.}
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25 Jun 2024 08:06:36
Thanks Ed, would have loved him with us.
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25 Jun 2024 08:07:27
Pretty sure we don’t need another number 10.
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25 Jun 2024 09:16:37
Wouldnt have had him down as a No.10.
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24 Jun 2024 19:49:06
Good Evening Ed002,
If you have time I would appreciate a reply and again maybe your opinion?
As the euros role on and teams are getting knocked out im sure there maybe more movement in the market with teams trying to get players before pre-season.
Regarding Liverpool everything you have said regarding our defensive targets look like they are spot on as usual, Yoro, Calafiori colwill etc. all built up in the media to now be heading elsewhere or staying.
As you say we may push for Ederson for MF and possibly Pacho for DF but do you see anyone else becoming a priority signing? If not no problem as you have already gone through everything and there may be no change.
Thanks Ed002 always respect your time so no panic 👍🏼.
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{Ed002's Note - You are right, as the Euros conclude there will be more movement. I still think interest remains in Hancko.}
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25 Jun 2024 07:09:46
From the sounds of it Ed, Atletico might beat us to the jump on Hancko and apparently his missus only wants him to go to a club in Spain or Italy.
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25 Jun 2024 07:23:45
i'd be ecstatic if we somehow were interested in calafiori, excellent overall performance capped with a key assist after a surging run and one-two from deep yesterday, brilliant player. hancko has been excellent at feyenoord and looks to have all the qualities to take over from virgil, i'd like to think that he can eventually reach that level, anyway.
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25 Jun 2024 07:08:46
Thanks Ed002.
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25 Jun 2024 08:00:21
VV, Ed002 never said we were signing him just where interest remains regardless of how someone’s wife feels about directing their husbands career. There are no certainties with transfers.
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25 Jun 2024 08:19:22
Calafiori's representatives are putting the finishing touches (from what I can gather (from reliable Italian press) for his move to Juve. Yoro has allegedly agreed on personal terms with Real Madrid although that remains unclear.
Personally, If Diaz is intent on leaving us for Barcelona then I'd make an offer of player plus money for Ronald Araújo, who covers 3 positions in the defensive line and would help Darwin embed better. I think it's an unlikely transfer but many of us thought Diaz wouldn't move away from us. Hopeful thinking on my part.
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25 Jun 2024 08:52:43
are you sure araujo is worth diaz plus money? i'd imagine diaz is worth 70 mill at least, and araujo didn't have a great season by all accounts, particularly the second half of the season.
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25 Jun 2024 09:59:21
@PatrikBurgher, I imagine you'd have condemned VvD after he had an abysmal year with us.
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25 Jun 2024 10:23:45
I absolutely would not, have you seen my other posts on here? I’m very protective of our players 😆
My question remains whether araujo is worth what you say, no doubt he’s a very good center half but why should we have to cough up more money plus a top class winger that they badly want for a player who isn’t in top form?
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25 Jun 2024 12:13:56
Two things about Araujo is that he is a bit prone to losing his head, the second thing is that he’s a bit injury prone and I think we’ve had our fill on that front.
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25 Jun 2024 13:34:41
@PatrikBurgher and @VV
Two years ago he was called the best Centre-Back in the world, this has disappeared but he still regularly gets in the top 10 on multiple lists around the world by varied publications and numerous journalist recommendations. Are they accurate? TBH we can't know about anyone prior actuality but he does have great strengths in his tackling and his coverage is astonishing (so he has a great engine) but as VV said he really is prone to getting overly angry. but overly angry in La Liga is run-of-the-mill regular temperament in the EPL (at least I like to think so, lol) . He's tall enough at over 6'2" but very well-built also. He is seemingly susceptible to injuries but I think that might be his temperament and over-eagerness pushing him to overstretch a lot. it is perhaps an issue but Ibou has missed more games and I'd not get rid of him. Is he worth it? It'd depend on what Barcelona want. Let's be honest we're not going to under-price Diaz who has a longer contract period remaining.
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25 Jun 2024 13:47:54
Two injury prone centre backs isn’t worth the aggro or risk. 20/ 21 should serve as a reminder as what can happen if we were to lose multiple centre backs due to injury and he is not worth the risk.
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25 Jun 2024 14:18:55
But VV we're not in the position of 20/ 21 and a defender that can cover 3 positions at the back is worth it.
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25 Jun 2024 14:51:30
We also qualified for the CL in the same season.
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25 Jun 2024 15:20:29
I would say that I wouldn’t be opposed to trading Diaz for araujo on the condition that we actually want him and he’s who the scouting team have decided we should make a priority to sign, rather than because Barcelona have indicated that he’d be available for exchange. Otherwise, there are better options that the scouts feel can fill our needs better and for a more cost effective price. Also, in no universe do I think he is worth Diaz plus additional money to begin with.
Who was calling him the best center back in the world? Better than stones, Dias, bastoni etc?
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24 Jun 2024 15:14:49
Deco at Barcelona is apparently obsessed with Diaz and is looking to offload Raphina to Saudi to fund the transfer.
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24 Jun 2024 16:32:34
Shame I do love Diaz but would swap him for Williams from bilbao. Kid is electric.
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24 Jun 2024 19:23:33
I would miss lucho but we really really really really really need to focus on a right winger as either a backup to moe or Moe's eventual replacement. Dear Lord, please do not bring any more left-wingers in.
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24 Jun 2024 19:56:29
Good player but he's definitely upgradeable if they get 70 or 80 million for him I would sell. Doesn't do enough for me in final 3rd. Electric taking players on but passing and finishing only average.
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24 Jun 2024 21:20:12
I’m with Eddie, good player but his end product isn’t good enough and for me not in the same league as Manè. If there’s an upgrade out there, I’d be up for it.
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25 Jun 2024 00:03:09
Thank Christ Barcelona are cashing in Raphinha to Saudi rather than offer him in exchange. Cold hard cash, say no to Barcelona trash.
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25 Jun 2024 08:55:03
Can’t see Barcelona being able to afford more than £50m for Diaz unless their fire sale goes off.
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25 Jun 2024 11:46:31
I believe Ed2 has mentioned previously that the issue for Barcelona isn't affording transfer fees, it's the wages they are needing to reduce, so if they want Diaz and LFC have a figure in mind, I'm sure it can be done if they can offload various high earners which I think is their plan.
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25 Jun 2024 13:43:52
You are right I believe about wages stuie but if you buy a player for say £20m and pay them £5m/ year, if you got them on a ‘free’ you could offer them say £9m/ year instead. Unless Barcelona can offload several of their highest earners they’ll only be shuffling the chairs around on the deck. So if Barcelona sell Raphinha for say £60m and get his £10m/ year off the books, they’ll want his replacement on less than £10m/ year or they’ll need to spend lower on a transfer fee else they won’t have moved the dial.
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