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06 May 2024 07:35:14
Much better yesterday. 3 key things for me that changed our fortunes.

1) Trent back playing as an actual right back and holding the width.

2) Going back to the midfield that saw us playing our best football this season (Endo, Macca and Elliott) . If only we'd done it sooner instead of persisting with Jones and Szoboszlai who've just looked miles off it since coming back from injury.

3) Gakpo and Diaz interchanging throughout the game, so Gakpo was on the ball more in his preferred wider role and as a result looked arguably the best player on the pitch (along with Elliott) .

Went a bit to pot after the substitutions disrupted our flow but we'd already done the damage so it ultimately didn't matter. It's almost certainly too little too late this season (barring a quite spectacular implosion from both Arsenal and City) but hopefully we can end on something of a high by carrying this performance into the final 2 games.

06 May 2024 08:02:17
Mk I might be wrong but quickly glancing back over the season line ups it appears that yesterday was the first league game that Mac, Endo and Elliot have started together in midfield this season.

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06 May 2024 08:27:42
JK23, possibly as a 3 because I think Macca was injured for a bit around February time, but they are the form players who carried us through that period of mass injuries January-March in my opinion. They and possibly Clark to a lesser extent are our only midfielders who I believe can say they have performed to their best this season. I really don't think we look solid with Jones and Szoboszlai in there, with Macca in the 6. They go too high and wide, and Macca isn't suited to being a lone 6 as it is, never mind when he has 40 square yards to cover on his own in the middle. Endo makes such a difference and I can't believe we dropped him in so many important games.

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06 May 2024 08:41:01
Double checked JK23, and you're not far wrong. They only actually started 1 game together I can see, which was the 5-1 win over Sparta Prague. However whilst skimming through, it seems to be quite noticeable how much better our results are when Macca/ Endo (this duo especially) or Macca/ Elliott or Elliott/ Endo have started together. Looks like the main reason they haven't played together often is due to rotation for Europa league games. Such a shame they've not played together more as a 3 because they dominated Spurs yesterday and that's 9 goals scored in the 2 games they've started together which say's it all really.

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06 May 2024 08:42:29
Mk cheers for the reply mate. I didn’t actually look at that stat to call you out. I looked at it yesterday before the game when the team was announced because my first thought was I couldn’t remember this midfield playing together. So thought I’d throw my 2p in that’s all to add discussion.

On Endo I’m not sure which games you mean when you say he was dropped. Our season seemed to derail when we went out of the fa cup against Utd and then after that we drew with Utd, lost to palace, Atalanta and Everton and drew with West Ham.

Of those 6 games Endo started 5 of them. Only game he didn’t start was the derby.

In regards to Clark mate I’ve hardly seen him this season to really judge. Think he’s played 87 mins in the league and then 150 mins across the other comps.

On Elliot yesterday though I thought he was fantastic and so was Gakpo. But I’ve got to call a spade a spade and those two haven’t always been fantastic when played this season. But in both’s defence they’re probably the ones (and Gomez) who have been shifted around the most position wise and then seem to be the ones that get sacrificed out of the starting 11.

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06 May 2024 09:10:22
Mk agree on the Endo and Mac call.

It’s been a bit of a nightmare getting them into the team together. Endo started very slowly and I’ll even admit after watching him live at home in the europa I wrote him off of which he’s undoubtedly proven me wrong. When Endo eventually got up to speed and came into the team it was Dece, her and Mac then picked up the injury that kept him out for a month.

When Mac returned Endo was at the Asian games for a month so it wasn’t until February that both started games together regularly which saw us go on a 7 game unbeaten run in the league.

Both haven’t been great mind in the poor run we then saw recently and I thought both were ok yesterday and not spectacular.

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06 May 2024 09:18:18
Or did we play better yesterday as pressure off? Didn't get to see game myself due to family get together so can't comment on game but according to reports and what i read here we played much better.

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06 May 2024 09:19:16
Playing it forward quicker helped a tonne.

Less playing around at the back. The defence and the midfield seemed eager to get the ball moving up the pitch. Big difference from last few games.

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06 May 2024 09:20:30
JK23, no worries mate I worded it badly anyway. I meant they've been our best 3 midfielders rather than them as a unit and your point was correct so nothing to dispute! I hadn't even considered how many they'd actually started together, I just knew I'd found us better to watch in the periods those 3 were playing more minutes.

With Endo mate it's more taking him off early in games recently (although dropping him in the derby was madness) . The guy did 120 in a Cup final and didn't falter once so subbing him after 60/ 70 minutes most weeks of late is baffling for me. As you say, he did play in our last 6 games but his minutes were very fractured.

Against United he was hooked on 69 minutes and they took complete control of the game eventually going 2-1 up. Elliott came on and salvaged something by winning a penalty.

At Palace he was taken of at HT but to be honest everyone was poor that day. Not having his security in midfield in the 2nd half didn't help though as it clearly hampers Mac Allisters game when he doesn't have Endo giving him more freedom, and Macca is our key to unlocking low blocks.

Yesterday vs Spurs he was hooked on 65 minutes with us 4-0 up and we lost control again and conceded twice. Luckily the lead was unassailable!

Against West Ham he was hooked on 79 minutes with us in the lead and looking more likely to extend the lead than to lose it. Not long after he was subbed they scored to make it 2-2.

Our only comfortable win in the last 6 games where it didn't feel like we were having to do any desperate defending at any point was the 3-1 vs Fulham and it is not a surprise to me that Endo played 90 minutes in that game.

To compare, in our 7 league games between Endo coming back from the Asian Cup and our United collapse he started 5 of those games and played the full 90 minutes in all of his starts. We won 4 of them and drew 1 against Man City. In fact every defeat we've had in the league this season Endo has played 45 minutes or less! He's such a key player for us that I'd be sending him out onto the pitch in plaster if I had to! The guy is a machine. I still can't comprehend people wanting to replace him next season when he's arguably our player of the season.

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06 May 2024 09:21:25
Jones and Szobo, before their injuries, were solid and I thought deserved their minutes. Jones looked very natural in midfield and for a period of time, I thought he was our best CM, especially since Macca was still finding his feet back then. I do agree that they have not been great since they came back from their respective injuries but then again, no one from the team did during that period.

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06 May 2024 09:40:57
Dracred, Jones and Szobo started the season very well but I think Szobo got figured out and needs to adapt to cope with English football, and Jones fell apart again with injuries and just never found his form.

Both players haven't played well arguably this calendar year. I don't think they can complain if they don't start again this season. Even Gravenberch has done more in recent weeks and to be honest, I wrote him off before he even pulled on a red shirt, but whilst others have faded away this season, he's got better and better. So hold my hands up there, because he might turn into a decent player for us if that trajectory continues.

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06 May 2024 09:43:29
Agree about Endo MK but just wish he had a bit more pace over the 1st 10 yards. If he had that he’d be the perfect platform for Mac and to protect the defence.

Since Endo found his feet he’s the perfect out ball from defence or keeper to break the press. Opposition close him down and he invariably plays it simple to a fullback or occasionally wriggles free, leaving Mac or the wingers available for the killer out ball. But if he had that burst of speed he’d be the perfect CDM for this team.

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06 May 2024 09:44:59
Digger, I'd like to think the players won't give up on the league until it is mathematically impossible so if they were playing without pressure, that's damning of their mentality this season! You could be right though mate.

Davey, I really liked that about the performance. I think having Robbo and Trent back and coming back to being fully fit will help a lot. They both progress the ball very quickly either with Trent's passing range or Robbo's forward runs. Throw in that Elliott and Gakpo also likes to travel with the ball and are very direct and it all came together in that first hour of the game. Shame it fell apart towards the end but I think that epitomised our season really!

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06 May 2024 10:04:05
Pompey Rouge, fair point on his lack of pace. Although Fabinho was never quick either. One benefit to his lack of pace is that he's unlikely to suffer from a major decline for a while yet because he doesn't rely on his legs, his game is mainly in his head. Same traits that allowed Milner to play for us until 36 years old.

I think Endo is ideal for us right now because he is not going to block the emergence of Bajcetic. Baj wasn't great yesterday when he came on but he has been out for a year in his defence. I'd probably wait until he has a proper pre-season under his belt before throwing him into a big game again though.

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06 May 2024 10:38:05
Good points on Endo, MK. I have to agree that he has grown on me as the season has gone on and am glad that he has taken that DM spot for himself. I can see why a few would want an upgrade on him but unless that player is a prime Fabinho, I think we can wait for Baj to grow into that position.

One Szobo, I don't think teams have figured him out. I think he has sacrificed part of his game for the sake of the team. He does a lot more running around now off the ball than he did when he first came in. I think it is a tactical issue and he should go back to form if he is allowed to play naturally like he did when he first came in.

For Jones, his injury came at a bad time since he was a regular then and playing very well. Not sure if the injury is his fault though since I recall that it is an impact one. I think he still needs a run of games to build back his match fitness and he should be back to his best. I'm still reluctant to call it quits on him and to move him on.

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06 May 2024 11:35:33
Unfortunately it’s the same every year with Jones he can’t put half a season together never mind a full one. I agree on Dom he really needs to knuckle down and try to regain his place next year. Endo has been a first class signing for the fee but he did have a major dip recently that led to Mac going back to no.6 and that was never the answer. I don’t think Endo will be first choice next year but he will still get plenty games.

I think Elliot hasn’t had the game time he deserved, why some players kept being chosen ahead of him I could never understand. He should be even better next year.

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06 May 2024 12:03:19
MKS, Im with @Dracred on Szobo. It's not like he is playing the same positio, and doing the same things he was playing/ doing when he was killing it at the start and suddenly now, he is struggling cos teams are targeting him. It is the change in his functions on the pitch where he can no longer be as dynamic on the pitch like he was back then at the start (and at RBL, btw) that has set him back. All you have to do is watch him then, and watch him now and the diff. is clear, IMO. And with the wall the whole team has hit in terms of form, that has affected the confidence of everyone, him included. Just my take.

As for Quansah, the kid is talented, no question and can be really good esp. with the platform he set for himself this season. He just needs to be more aggressive in his interventions, stay focused and concentrate the whole time cos he can get sloppy and play a wrong ball to the oppo. via a blind pass. Something he did again vs WH last week and led to the corner that caused the goal. That will come with more experience, IMO.

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06 May 2024 12:08:24
markp08, my hope is that Bajcetic is first choice next season after a barnstorming pre-season! Last summer we held off signing a RB because we knew how good Bradley was and I'm hopeful we do the same for Bajcetic. Endo might not be world class but he's not a weak link either so it's low risk but I'm sure Slot and Hughes will assess the squad in the summer and make their decisions. They might choose to go in a completely different direction.

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06 May 2024 12:59:51
@mkscouser, I have always said gakpo should play out wide which is where he played for Ajax and for the Netherlands and in the games he has played out wide, he has been brilliant. Why klopp persisted with playing him central as a false nine is beyond me. Klopp is a legend but simple and obvious thinks that like make me thing that there’s perhaps more than just a bit of arrogance that made klopp keep trying to play him a position unfamiliar to him. In some ways, I am actually glad klopp is leaving. He is a legend but I think it had got to the point where his tactics had been sussed out, and teams knew how to play against us, I think deep down inside he knew this hence helping him make the decision to leave.

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06 May 2024 13:22:46
Can I just say if we had twitter (or it hadn’t been so toxic) Peter crouch would have been crucified by so called fans.

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06 May 2024 14:34:45
Endo is ok and an ok back up it his game is very limited, would hope we can get an upgrade in the 6 position.

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06 May 2024 01:29:00
Konate

Genuine question here for the Eds or anyone.

Why is Klopp starting Quansah over Konate?

I've been so impressed with Quansah, young lad who has come in and done an incredible job for us. I know he's made a few mistakes but that's to be expected with his age.

Konate, a French international, possible injury issues, has been rotated with mid week games. Should have played more Premier League games with his physicality, as Ed.001 suggested, with Quansah in Europe.

Without Matip and with Gomez essentially being L/ R back cover, we have gone through the season with basically 3 centre backs.

However, we haven't played since West Ham, over a week since our last game. Why is Quansah above Konate?

{Ed001's Note - because he is better on the ball.}

06 May 2024 03:35:31
I think Quansah has played amazingly well thus far. His first season of top flight football and he does not look out of place at all. In fact, I dare say that he has played his way from being 5th choice CB to being 2nd/ 3rd choice. If he was playing for another club, we were all be putting his name forward as a potential signing for us. He does have his faults but he is going from strength to strength and if he keeps clear of injuries, I can definitely see him as our long-term CB.

I love Konate but his injuries are a concern. Especially so for CBs where partnership is so important. It's no surprise that Arsenal have been playing well when they have an assured CB partnership of Gabriel and Saliba. Maybe that's something that we need to look into after the season ends - who our 1st choice would be moving forward instead of rotating between Quansah and Konate.

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06 May 2024 06:46:01
My personal feeling is that our defence has suffered massively through the level of rotation that Klopp has insisted on. Pick your favoured CB partnership and play it as often as you possibly/ reasonably can. Only then will we tighten up how many goals we concede.

I get Konate has injury options but how can he possibly build form and momentum being in and out of the team.

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06 May 2024 06:55:10
Changingofthegvardiol (reference to rival player in username? )
Konate doesn’t deserve to start. He is unfit to be a starting center back at any club because he can’t keep himself in good shape or injury-free for a reasonable length of time. It’s absolutely not good enough from both him and our medical team.
Let Quansah be the starting CB alongside Virgil and see if Konate has it within him to win his place back. He is a better player (at the moment) than Quansah, but good CB partnerships are rarely about the quality of individuals solely.

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06 May 2024 07:24:46
Quansah plays because he's better in every aspect other than recovery pace and 1v1 defending. His positioning is better, he can actually head the ball in the intended direction, he reads the game better, he carries the ball forward better, he has a better passing range, he is less rash when stepping out to meet the ball, he actually wins headers at set pieces instead of shirking responsibility and leaving them all the Virgil etc. I really think Quansah is the best player we've produced since Trent and I highly doubt he's going anywhere short or long term.

Konate for me does not justify a starting role. To be honest he is near impossible to beat 1v1 but there's not much else good to his game. He's not a CB you win major titles with in my opinion because he doesn't have a football brain or composure. We need to be ruthless if we want to progress and he was a £36m mistake. Why on earth did we sign an injury prone CB who played in a back 3?

Quansah arguably has too much composure and sometimes he just needs to get rid or play the easier pass, but that is a learnable thing. You can't really coach a lot of things Konate is lacking so he'll never be elite. It would not surprise me if Slot pushes Konate out within 12 months, because he is more possession orientated than Klopp, and Konate is not a player you want to be giving the ball to under pressure.

Gomez probably won't be far behind either as he's even slower and less aware on the ball. His laziness also let Spurs back into the game last night. Robbo had Kulusevski and Johnson on toast and within minutes of coming on Gomez let them in behind from a simple straight pass, to square for a tap in. Average defenders have been allowed to fester in our squad for far too long because Virgil has carried them, but he's too old to do that now and he needs to be able to focus on his own game because he is struggling. He needs some bloody help. Matip has been his only half decent partner throughout Klopp's tenure and he's about as robust as a poppadum.

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06 May 2024 08:25:39
Konate is a better player, at the moment, IF he stays fit.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont know about that Rome, DCL played him like a second hand fiddle in the derby mate..

06 May 2024 08:50:05
Ed025, he get's bullied a lot for such a big man. Seen him get brushed aside by a few too many players to be honest. One that always sticks in my mind was Brentford last season. Mbuemo just shrugged him off like he was an u16.

On the flip side though I've also seen him completely dominate players who rely on speed because he's so quick and good at getting his body across in 1v1 situations. I reckon if we played a back 3 and he was defending against pace instead of physicality, he'd thrive. But we don't so for me we need to take off the red tinted specs and see him for what he is. He's not much better than Lovren or Sakho were. He's not even any use as a back up player because of his fitness issues. You want your back ups to be readily available. I think he'll get a chance to impress Slot, but I can't see a manager who wants his teams to keep the ball selecting Konate regularly.

Be interesting to see if Sepp Van den Berg has improved out on loan. I saw a thread the other day where some Bundesliga fans were saying VdB's in the top 10 CB's in Germany and makes loads of great clearances, but no idea how Mainz play, or if his strengths are transferable to how Slot will want to play.

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{Ed025's Note - i would tend to agree MK, i dont think he is the best against a robust forward but he does well in some areas and is comfortable going forward mate, but as you highlight his injury record will always hold him back, decent enough back up but if Slot brings in his own guys he could struggle..

06 May 2024 08:53:32
Totally agree with that, Ed. He was absolutely useless that night. Quansah, if he keeps his head down, will save us a fortune and will become a better player.

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{Ed025's Note - i like Quansah Rome and think he is only going to get better, i just hope Slot gives him the chance mate because he looks a bit special to me..

06 May 2024 09:19:18
Konate is a player that needs a run of games to get his form. Unfortunately poor performances and injuries are stopping that from happening.

Quansah Deserves that starting place and has been brilliant.

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06 May 2024 09:24:43
Unfortunately konate sijust to injury prone, can't get a relationship built up At centre of defence as he can't put any sort of run of games together at all. if he willing to stay as 3rd r 4th choice id keep him but if not id sell him if we could. Excellent player no doubt but just to injury prone, here 3 seasons now and they've all been more r less the same, stop- start.

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06 May 2024 10:56:49
I would sell Konate this summer while he still has two years left on his contract. Rumours about a move to PSG have persisted for years so get it over with while we can still maximise his value. Give van den Berg Matip's role and bring in someone new to replace Konate.

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{Ed002's Note - PSG has no interest in Konate and it is the player who wants to join them.}

06 May 2024 11:01:52
Feel like Konate would play well in a back as the right sided CB.

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06 May 2024 11:39:42
Cb. Is definitely an area that needs reinforcements. We concede every game. DKL absolutely destroyed Konate, he will take a long time to get over that.

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06 May 2024 13:16:02
What I didn't like about Konate against DCL is that he tried to win the ball off him every time. You don't have to. DCL is a big lad and if he has the ball under control with his back to goal, let him have it and bide your time. Don't foul him, stay on your feet and stay in the game and prepare for the next phase of play. If he lays it off and spins, just go with him.

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06 May 2024 14:36:26
People forget konate was awful at the start of the season too and matip was on a resurgence until the injury which has allowed quansah to get his chance. Konate just isn't elite levels good player but not world class. The same can be said for a few players Nunez gakpo etc.

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05 May 2024 21:57:06
Did anyone see ang give klopp a baggy in the tunnel? Good gear he said 😂.

05 May 2024 23:21:29
🤣🤣 He certainly gave him something in the tunnel before kick off anyway. We never seem to have any width so, maybe he gave him a winger?

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05 May 2024 20:20:05
Good day Eds and Reds, concerning the match today it was a joy to watch except the last fifteen minutes of the game, but what I observed is that the players look well up for the game (maybe due to the long rest we had), but to me it is not a coincidence that we played well today without having any mid-week fixture to contend with.

I'm not saying the players are not capable, but it has been a long journey from the beginning of the season trying to shuttle between competitions, to me that resulted in our decline, though I'm disappointed the way the end of the season has played out but I couldn't be more proud of them (players).what I will say is bring on next season, because I can't wait to see a fresh start from the players and the new manager,all the same thanks to the gaffer (klopp) for what he has done to the club and the city, you will surely be missed, once a legend always a legend jurgen.

05 May 2024 21:37:08
I had a great day!

Elliott was boss.
Quansah cool as a cucumber.
Gakpo had a good game.

Mac Allister was gash.

But seeing the return of Bajcetic (who was also totally off the pace) was a joy. He’s a big part of our future - trust me.

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05 May 2024 21:45:39
Trent playing as an actual right back made the world of difference.

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05 May 2024 21:53:13
Midweek games are to be expected at a club like Liverpool.
It's also a quandary keeping players fresh and asking them to play heavy metal football. You sprint at the end of the marathon not throughout it.

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{Ed014's Note - you should tell that to the marathon world record holder whose average speed during the race is 13.1mph

05 May 2024 21:54:36
Robertson. World class that guy.

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05 May 2024 21:58:20
Bajcetic was absolutely shocking, should have made that sub with 10 mins to go in hindsight. Not his fault at all but yeah well off match fitness. Can’t wait to see him next season after a summer of finding his feet.

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05 May 2024 22:26:06
Glad you guys had a geat day out. Saw the game and frankly, we were brilliant all game till the changes were rung in and we lost our way. All in all in terms of chances created, we deserved the win and Spurs only got in when we rung in the changes hence, the tempo cooled down a bit.

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06 May 2024 08:45:42
@1985Mickey, Baj has to start somewhere and a game we are winning easily is not the worst way to make a comeback. Next time out he should have benefitted from getting the time yesterday.

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05 May 2024 22:58:02
Ed014, I reckon I can sprint at 13.1 mph. But not for 26 miles.

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{Ed014's Note - I’d love to see you give it ago! 😂

06 May 2024 11:46:06
1985mikey1985, why the harsh remarks on Baj, man? The kid's been out for months so what were you expecting exactly? Give over, man.

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06 May 2024 15:18:56
I don’t think it’s harsh at all, he was shocking. No point sugar coating it. And like I said it’s not his fault because he’s been out injured but giving him more than 10 mins was a big mistake and gave spurs a bit of hope.

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06 May 2024 13:19:37
Ed014, I could easily reach 13.1 mph for about ten metres but I reckon I would then hit the wall.

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{Ed014's Note - I’d be lucky to make 10mtrs 😂😂

05 May 2024 16:11:44
Just seen the news about Bernard Hill terribly sad our Yosser gone but not forgotten fly high mate will always remember High Park street and the afraid you'll be terrified in a minute line stuck with me cause it resonated tears in me eyes we lost another good man today.

05 May 2024 20:16:14
He was alright for a Manc!
Boys from the Blackstuff is a classic and one of the best things ever shown on TV. He was brilliant as Yosser. There was a lot of sadness and despair in it but Yosser's story is the one that most people remember.
It's funny how so many people associate Scousers with Yosser when he played the part mostly in his own Manc accent.
RIP Bernard.

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05 May 2024 20:51:02
Sad news. when he was sat next to Souness saying “you look like me” RIP yosser lad.

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05 May 2024 23:08:00
“I’m desperate, Father”
“Call me Dan”
“I’m desperate, Dan”

Brilliant drama series that hit the nail on the head in horrible times.

RIP Yosser and thank you for the memories Bernard.

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06 May 2024 10:06:22
Will always be Theoden to me. RIP sir.

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05 May 2024 11:54:43
Hi Ed001
Considering most of us didn't even know who slot was before Klopp announced he was leaving, any chance you could do a profile on him? I've read all sorts on here, like he plays with inverted fullbacks, a pivot, high press. Would appreciate your in depth take on him.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the list mate.}

05 May 2024 12:02:02
I get the impression that you’re not that keen on him Ed001? You just don’t seem very enthusiastic about him taking over.

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure. I am not a fan of inverted full-backs and he likes those, so that bothers me. He also plays very possession-heavy football, which can be boring. But he does like a high intensity level. I am just waiting until I can look at more of him before I get enthusiastic.}

05 May 2024 13:16:00
For me, Liverpool are gambling on potential with Slot.

He is far from a sure thing.

It really could go either way but I like how he handles the media at least. Seems confident and a strong communicator. Should be helpful.

I'm very looking forward to see how we play under him.

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05 May 2024 13:33:08
Let's hope Slot gets a 7 with us.

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05 May 2024 13:43:23
I’d argue klopp wasn’t a sure thing when we signed him . There are no guarantees in football . Slot may well come in and tweak his system to get the best out the players at his disposal. He might have not had the opportunity to do certain things at feyenoord that he wants to do at Liverpool . I will be firmly in the camp of let’s wait and see what he can do and I will not judge him after 2/ 3 games he needs to be given the time klopp was afforded . Unlike klopp slot will have a full pre season when he starts so I can’t wait to watch all the pre season content lfc related to see what’s coming . I’m actually excited about a new manager . Klopp is / has been quality for us but I genuinely think he’s made mistakes this season and i know it’s not popular because he’s leaving and we are celebrating klopps time etc but he is still accountable for things this season as are the players . Mostly making substitutions too late has been my criticism of klopp .

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05 May 2024 14:42:52
“For me, Liverpool are gambling on potential with Slot”

To be fair Davey, that is kinda our thing.

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05 May 2024 15:18:30
From my point of view I dislike Slot.
My opinion, my view.
I am certain he will fail and quickly.
I had a similar feeling about Brendan Rogers but not so intensely.
Following Juergen will be a mammoth task for any manager.
I don't like Slot's system at all.
There is definitely unease in the camp with Juergen leaving. I don't find this surprising.
I am biased. I don't like Dutch football or their managers. I have many reasons for what I believe will be a difficult coming period.
I don't have the attitude we must get behind the team no matter what. If I don't like something I will say so and not blindly follow.
Therefore if I dislike a direction I will say it, unconcerned about popularity.
Fasten your seat belts it is going to be a bumpy ride.
I just get visions of a once smiling Slot, standing in disbelief with his jaw on the deck, clueless to the events he surveys.
My opinion, just my opinion.

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05 May 2024 15:43:39
Very few sure thing managers to be fair, if any. It’s always going to be a gamble, maybe Slot slightly more than others that have been mentIoned.

Agree1

05 May 2024 15:49:10
@ yuri

Obviously entitled to your opinion but the fact you dislike the man before he’s even had a chance is nothing short of a disgrace IN MY OPINION
you may not like his tactics or playing style but to not like the actual man himself come on .

As a fan base we have to get behind the next man at least giving him a chance and not live in the past because the past is already gone and it was great with jurgen at times but it’s time to move on it really is.

Agree9

05 May 2024 16:04:33
My ex wife left me because I gambled on slots.

Agree2

05 May 2024 17:53:29
I don't mind if people think I am a disgrace because of what I am saying.
That's life.
For as W C Fields famously once said, "Never give a sucker an even break! "

Agree1

05 May 2024 18:26:21
Slots first job will be to teach Nunez English and then the offside rule.

Agree1

05 May 2024 18:32:46
Yuri01, you won't blindly follow Slot but you dislike him, his system and his direction before he has even managed one of our games and because of where he comes from?
Unbelievable!

Agree7

05 May 2024 18:36:41
Looks like you've made your mind up Yuri 😄.

Agree4

05 May 2024 19:08:45
He will be flogging a dead horse there, JK. I'm starting to agree with the Andy Carroll song!

Agree3

05 May 2024 22:30:52
@Yuri from the moment you dislike someone without even knowing them or having a chance to open your mind and judge their words, acts and deeds on the merits, is the living epitome of bias hence, your opinion on Slot or who/ whatever else means absolutely nothing to me cos it is based on inherrent bias and prejudice. Peace and Love.

Agree4

05 May 2024 23:14:20
@Yuri - great motto for life that eh “Never give a sucker an even break”?

Anyway anybody who sees Slot as a replacement for Klopp is, basically on a hiding to nothing. Slot is the next Liverpool manager, no more, no less. For those who like to judge, he can only be judged on the circumstances he finds when he takes up the role in, presumably, July.

Agree1

06 May 2024 00:00:28
It won’t matter how good the manager or system is, we need quality additions to go into the first 11. Some players just aren’t good enough over a season.

Agree0

06 May 2024 00:18:54
the only thing i've seen of Slot is that clip of him laughing when antony goes down "injured", gets back on the pitch and goes down again only to get booked for time wasting.

Agree2

06 May 2024 01:44:28
Yuri, you may well be right but at the same time we have to give him a chance, do we not? poor fella hasn't even signed on the dotted line and you're writing him off. He could come in and win us the league, he could come in and fail - point of the matter is we have no idea what will happen, I hope for the best of course but just got to wish the man some good luck and get on with it.

Agree1

06 May 2024 02:33:48
All.
I haven't posted my thoughts to be popular.
Yes, indeed I have already written off Slot.
Yet, that is my assessment. An average Dutch coach, probably a nice bloke but Mr Average Guy.
I am just going with my gut feeling.
Thank you anyway for putting up with my grumpy feelings.

I would probably agree with a certain Mr Maureen-ho.

Young modern managers maybe the way to go?
Or as Mario Zagalo the Brasilian manager used to say:"Who am I to tell Pele how to play football? "

Who am I to tell Liverpool who should be the next manager?
I am doing it, but it isn't Slot. Even though he is likely a nice man.

We cannot get Alonso or Amorim. Therefore, one grumpy to another. Hey Jose. Come over here and prove you can do it. I know that is what you want. You have enough trophies to prove it.

Agree0

06 May 2024 07:34:28
Yuri, more football based detail rather than just gut feelings would add more credibility to your post.
Your post just smacks of negativity without any football based reasoning.
Also, I’m sure if we wanted Amorim we could have got him.
Ed2 likes him and I think he said he’d be the ideal choice before anyone else was even mentioning him. That’s a good start for me. Reason for my view because his view is well informed and founded on important relevant factors.

Agree2

06 May 2024 08:52:21
Genuine question @Yuri, why do you keep telling us you don’t care if you are popular or not? It’s of no consequence to any of the forum users. It’s perfectly reasonable to put forward your opinion but, as has been said, it would be useful to have some clue as to why you have the opinion you have rather than just making emotive statements.

Agree1

06 May 2024 08:55:23
Yuri, so it's a gut feeling about and not an assessment of Slot?
I respect your gut feeling but what do you regard as him failing, mate? What does he need to achieve for you to see him as a success?

Agree0

06 May 2024 11:29:16
Very happy with Slot - good appointment.

Agree1

 


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