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30 Oct 2026 18:35:03
Can someone explain to me why Araujo isn't a quality RB? I don't care that CB is his natural position.
He has the presence of a CB in that position making him very strong aerially and physically. Something we previously lacked. This gets forgotten.
He's been defensively excellent so that's a bonus to what we've had. Then going forward he's assisted and has scored. Like what am I missing here? because it seems a few have trent brain rot.
We don't have a full back that can ping the odd ball like de bryne. Well who does? There doesn't seem to be a yearning for a top LB yet Kerkezs delivery and final balls have been honestly dross.
Araujo has major positives offensively and defensively to his game so why do we still need a RB? also Bradley is returning who is top class when he's in form. Now if Bradleys injuries continues I'll understand the need for a RB because the club will look to move Bradley on at that stage.
But Araujo is currently quality for us. So I personally don't see the need for anyonelse especially someone who's weak in alot of areas to Araujos game.
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30 Oct 2026 19:57:35
Because we need a long term replacement for Virgil and Araujo could fit the bill there. Hence why the need for a right back as imo Bradley can't be relied on to be fit and who knows if he will be the same after such an injury. Frimpong for me just doesn't suit the PL so a right back is definitely needed.
30 Oct 2026 18:01:59
Tough game on weekend but i think among premier league managers only iraola ball is the antithesis to arteta ball.
Only problem is we havent yet showcased iraola ball for a full 90 minutes.
We wont get bullied on corners atleast.
Two corner goals from aruajo and van dyk and a 2-0 win would feel very good.
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30 Oct 2026 18:14:36
You need top quality central midfielders to help an overall performance over 90 minutes. When they come in the door, I expect us to turn into an animal.
30 Oct 2026 17:35:46
Looking like Elliot will be returning in January,really don’t know what’s happening with the lad
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30 Oct 2026 17:42:06
Not really our concern. Doubt he ever pulls on the red jersey again.
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30 Oct 2026 18:25:22
He needs a club that will suit him and be good to him. There's a player there for a good club. I. Still think Fulham is a good fit if he stays in England. Maybe Germany or Italy might suit his game.
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30 Oct 2026 18:38:08
He has a weight issue and his attitude has gone down the drain in la liga. That red card he got was a shocker but didn't do him any good. It was never the move for him and he should have picked Fulham over Valencia. Now it will be ridiculously hard for him to get into a Premier League team.
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30 Oct 2026 19:16:16
Not quick enough to play out wide, doesn't score enough goals to play as a 10, not physical enough to play in the middle. Think he'd do well in the champ.
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30 Oct 2026 19:27:05
I think Championship is his level.
30 Oct 2026 15:44:57
The entire debate on no 12 in Madrid is absolutely fair because opinions differ.
But what I have to say because there's alot of naivety is that the player himself. Forget the past or anythingelse. The player now is not the same player many of you think you'll be getting if he returns.
Trent does not have the legs or stamina for andonis game. I watch every barca and Madrid game. I've watched him and bellingham close because they play for England.
Trent is a different player now. He's suffered with Injuries and looks like an overweight R9 when running back. He's not a 21 year old kid anymore and he can't be carried by us.
Araujo is a superior right back to this trent.
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30 Oct 2026 15:50:50
An overweight R9 was still class mate.
Bring back the days of those mavericks.
On your post though agree. The PL seems to have moved on and away from Trent's game and if anything it would expose his vulnerability's even more.
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30 Oct 2026 16:01:02
Yup, he's overweight, lost pace, looks gassed with minimal effort, lacks agility, not to mention we're not playing Klopp's system anymore, a system that flattered Trent. No place for him.
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30 Oct 2026 16:14:51
Btw
I absolutely wouldn't take trent back. He should be a lesson for the club moving forward that should never be repeated. We're lucky we're in a far better financial situation than we were in even under klopp. For a player to leave worth at least 80 million, could have set us back years ago when we need outgoings to supplement incomings. And that was the "local future captain".
Trent and Madrid worked together to benefit both parties. Liverpool lost out.
Yet again trent and Madrid aim to benefit from what would be a weak Liverpool spending a penny on him. He left, he wanted to leave and it's been a disaster for him professionally.
He's going to be turning 29 when he's most likely available.
Carragher seems to one of the media minions his team has spoken to, with his stance on the overlap and putting pressure on Julian ward.
Maybe some fans need to replay trents Madrid press conference when he couldn't stop laughing about when he learnt Spanish. There's a few other things he mentioned at the time which went spoke directly *over the fans. That's not a character I want returning to this special club.
You don't realise this is a special club when you're humiliated by "your dream club".
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30 Oct 2026 15:54:56
Jk
I'm referring to the retired R9 that loved his food and would look similar to Ed025 😂😂.
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{Ed025's Note - i will have you know Ron i have lost a bit of weight recently, im wasting away to a bonded warehouse now.. :)
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30 Oct 2026 16:30:06
Ed025 what's your opinion mate. Say it was Everton and Everton were winning leagues etc. I get the different country, culture etc but mate he left at 25 not 30 and did the slimiest sh*t working with Madrid in the background to benefit only two parties. Himself and Madrid. Let's not forget, if he was on a longer contract madird we're never buying him. He took advantage of the contract situation and that's fine. You get over that.
What I really don't like, is that because it's became a disaster now on the professional side, he and his team are pushing for a return.
Get f**ked on that. You made your bed so lie in it with your lovely family who behaved like idiots too. Carragher clearly has been in talks with someone close to him with what I heard on the overlap. Carragher trying to put pressure on ward and speaking as if the fans want trent back.
It's irritating because there's lads at the club that want to be here and are performing and we're now talking about a failed coming 29 year old when he's available, looking to return.
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{Ed025's Note - if i was a Liverpool fan i would not want him back Ron, he had his time at Liverpool and done very well for himself mate, i only met him once and he seemed like a very nice guy but him coming back would be a backward step for LFC i feel, he left under a cloud and a lot of my red mates say they would not want him back for the reasons you have already stated, myself i think he will return to play in England again but a club like Chelsea would seem to me to be a better fit i would suggest..
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30 Oct 2026 17:53:39
I wasn't against him when he left but I wouldn't have him back, no chance. He made his choice and he can live with it, what's done is done we move on.
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30 Oct 2026 18:05:08
I don't think I'd re-sign trent either and that's me speaking from a purely footballing point of view, forgetting about rights+ wrongs of him leaving. We can see benefit in backline of a real aggressive player in araujo and a think we need same in midfield. Trent in last few seasons far too slack and lackadaisical in the way he defends and when he not on ball. As lfc fans we probably made excuses for him due to him being from Liverpool and having been super player for us previously and winning plenty of trophies.
Also he approaching 29 and has picked up few injuries recently which never happened him in his 1st 5/6 seasons at lfc.
If we keep improving as a team we may need better ballplayer at rb in future than araujo but at the minute I think team much better with araujo there.
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{Ed025's Note - i agree Digger..
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30 Oct 2026 18:19:52
Exactly salah. Precisely that, this shouldn't be conversation because the lad wants his career revived and is pushing it behind the scenes. I just hope ward doesn't fall into the trap. The best of trent is well behind him now.
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30 Oct 2026 19:10:50
Digger, your last paragraph. Most fans yearning for him back are unaware of the player he's been at Madrid and his injury record. Add to that, his body has now played a lot less games than he's used to. Fans think they're getting the same player back, when he was flying.
30 Oct 2026 13:51:51
Have not seen Ed01 posting for quite some time now. I hope all is well with him.
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{Ed001's Note - all's good mate. Thanks for asking.
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30 Oct 2026 14:40:20
Good to hear from you mate!
Do you know who we are targeting in January? A number 6 should be one for sure in my opinion. I cannot watch Gravenberch stroll around the park like a moose anymore.
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{Ed001's Note - I don't expect much ,if anything in Jan.
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30 Oct 2026 15:37:06
As they say"You can't kill a bad thing"RRH 😉.
30 Oct 2026 10:06:11
How it going Ed001, all good in that side of the world?
Re Camara, do you think the thinking will change with Trey being used more often, or the club will pursue anyway in the event Macca or others leave?
And are they similar in your view? I've not seen enough of Camara but liking trey so far.
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{Ed001's Note - Nyoni provides a HG alternative, which is obviously extremely attractive with the way that squads have to be put together now. It also makes it easier to get another work permit for an up and comer, if needed, having him play regularly. I would think Camara would only be pursued if one of the others (hopefully Gravenberch) leaves. From the little I have seen of him, he is not really the defensive pivot, but the one alongside him, so could easily play with Nyoni.}
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30 Oct 2026 10:31:59
Camara would be great foil for any of our midfielders in a two. That's the attraction.
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30 Oct 2026 11:10:25
I remembered asking you about both Grav and Macca few days ago Ed. And you've said you would prefer to sell Macca and keep Grav due to his development potential.
You think his past few performances has been really bad that you would rather sell than keeping him? Plus I think he's on high wages, that could be a factor.
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{Ed001's Note - I would sell both personally. But yes, his performances are utterly abysmal.
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30 Oct 2026 12:16:50
Not sure if Macca is playing for a contract. However, as it is, I would rather keep Macca than Grav.
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30 Oct 2026 14:10:03
Thanks for the review Ed001.
It really is time for us to look at Gravenberch being moved on. It feels like the man just doesn't want to fit in. Mac Allister gets injured, Gravenberch doesn't step up and try to cement his place. Szoboszlai gets injured and once again he's unable to cement his place. And a 19 year old steps up and regularly outshines him (if you go by most opinions). The missed penalty is a clear sign of a lack of confidence; you couldn't mistake the body language before he took it. Whatever it is, it's of his own doing.
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30 Oct 2026 14:54:14
Grav looks devoid of confidence to me, but seems to have regressed back into the player he was under Klopp. It really does look like a bad move to have awarded him so heavily with the new contract, especially when young Trey is improving nicely.
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30 Oct 2026 15:03:18
The thing with Ryan is that at this stage he should be performing consistently and everyone knows his best position. He excelled for one season as a 6 and since then doesn't want to play the role or puts in a half ass effort because he wants to bomb forward.
I don't care about any of the central midfielders wants.
Contract or positional. There's major question marks over the 3 of them. Macca doesn't have the legs or mobility and dom needs to improve a lot consistently to be a CM.
I said all summer we needed two midfielders and it seems the club are aiming to put two top midfielders straight in.
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30 Oct 2026 15:14:08
Camara and Nyoni as a midfield 2 could be an interesting combination.
30 Oct 2026 10:31:27
Nyoni + rio are showing real signs of improving and pushing themselves to be starters, no doubt ai influence.
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30 Oct 2026 11:21:09
Great review Ed, can't disagree with much of that.
The one I disagreed with was Gakpo being our best forward. I thought in terms of him making the run and looking a threat yes he had quite a few moments but to me he seemed to pick the wrong option everytime he went forward or he just held onto the ball too long.
Whether that was, as you mentioned Isak or others not making the right runs or whether more down to his fitness I'm not sure but I would still say he's way off of what he was loke prior to his injury when he was probably out best player.
Araujo 100% should've been m. o. m for me. We have to get him signed on a permanent 👍🏻
As an aside Ed01, what do you make of the noise around Trent looking for a return. if you had the choice, would you take him back?
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{Ed001's Note - no he looks well overweight & he barely breaks sweat. He has killed his career.
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30 Oct 2026 12:10:56
Great read, Ed.
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{Ed001's Note - thanks Oli.}
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30 Oct 2026 12:34:31
Such a shame Ed. I imagine he's regretting his decisions big time!
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{Ed001's Note - he should be.}
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30 Oct 2026 15:20:17
Ed001 I remember you saying on the page the day we celebrated the league victory at anfield, he'd regret leaving. No one had a magic 8 ball but it couldn't have gone worse for him professionally.
Injuries, no trophies, constant change of managers who don't fancy him and now seemingly a third choice RB.
Trent made abit of a scene at old Trafford when Bradley came on for the last twenty minutes. Slot had to talk to him.
This lads not batting an eyelid on the bench or when he comes on for 2 minutes into extra time in an el clasico. That's why I wouldn't want him back. Imo, Liverpool was a stepping stone for him.
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{Ed001's Note - he made a big mistake. but he needs to suffer the consequences.
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30 Oct 2026 15:38:23
Ed001 he's not thinking about consequences when seemingly he's pushing for a move back. This club shouldn't be a back up option for any player that wanted to leave and it fails elsewhere. Why should we pay tens of millions to get him back?
There's a lot of debate around should we or shouldn't we from a lot of fans who haven't watched his performances in Madrid.
He doesn't have the legs or stamina for andonis game. And I don't believe we should be carrying him. Also I love arajuo so I'm very content with what we have.
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{Ed001's Note - he looks finished at the top level, like he can't be bothered to work at his game. Players like that have no place at Liverpool.}
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30 Oct 2026 15:48:52
A brilliant review as always Ed001. Gravenberch's place has to be seriously under threat now from Nyoni?
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{Ed001's Note - I think so.}
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30 Oct 2026 16:18:25
Thanks for this Ed. Love your reviews and look forward to them always. On Grav - I actually felt bad for him in the game against Chelsea. Not sure it comes across as someone who is lazy or not trying, it just feels like he is not in the right frame of mind. Given he had such a good season when we won the league under Slot, it is incredible to see he hasn't played to that standard for quite some time now.
I don't like to give up on people quickly, so hopefully he will get back his confidence and will help us win trophies this season or in the future.
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{Ed001's Note - he is not trying, no one trying loses the challenges he was losing. If he was trying, he puts his weight into it and wins them, but he hasn't got the balls for it.}
30 Oct 2026 09:37:32
Don't worry Shappy, you will be able to enjoy this season forever once Amazons All or Nothing show comes out :)
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30 Oct 2026 11:47:18
They're a club in decline.
They should have stuck by Rangnick and let him shape the club. Instead they're stuck in a cycle of hiring and firing managers every few seasons. They're leaderless on and off the pitch.
{Ed025's Note - i will have you know Ron i have lost a bit of weight recently, im wasting away to a bonded warehouse now.. :)
{Ed001's Note - all's good mate. Thanks for asking.
