Liverpool Rumours Archive August 04 2020

04 Aug 2020 17:06:03
any of the eds how true are rumours for origi and villa if so i hope more mins for taki and Brewster.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach for Origi but suspect he would be available if Brewster were to return.}

04 Aug 2020 18:25:37
Brewster will return.

04 Aug 2020 22:57:03
Brewster would be better off to build on his successful loan with a full season in the championship, Swansea again would be good. Much better off there than playing in the u23s and the league cup, if he would even start in the league cup that is.

05 Aug 2020 08:49:51
He needs to step up in his development Sean and if we want him to go out again it should be to a prem team Brighton Would be a good shout as they play an attacking game and he would get chances and not living off scraps.

05 Aug 2020 10:26:57
I think it's a big risk if he goes on loan to a premiership club at this stage, I'm not certain he would be a regular starter. If he stayed fit he would start around 40 games in the championship whereas if he goes a few games without scoring in the premier league then he would very likely find himself on the bench.

Swansea is his only senior football experience, 22 league games with 11 goals. I would 100% prefer another loan there rather than risking him sitting on the bench of another premier league club. He needs minutes on the pitch at this stage for his development.

05 Aug 2020 19:27:11
With Brewster, I think it depends if we bring anyone in if Origi is sold. If we replace Origi, then he needs another loan. If we don't, he'll get time on the pitch.

05 Aug 2020 20:51:40
I would be going with Sean on this, Brewster was very happy at Swansea, got loads of game time, loads of goals, and was well liked by his manager, team mates and fans,
would he get that with Brighton or Leeds .

07 Aug 2020 06:00:24
People foget he missed over a season with injury, at his age a season in the championship playing regularly and scoring puts him in the best position to make an impact. A few mins here and there may disrupt his development.

04 Aug 2020 13:12:24
Ed's are you aware of there being any truths in the media talk about LFC buckling at the Thiago price. I remember you saying, we had made no approach and haven't spoken to bayern. I always go with what's said here, so has the situation changed at all or are media outlets just filling column spaces as per usual, please.

{Ed002's Note - There remains a reluctance within the club to spend a significant amount on a player who will not have any resale value, although Klopp clearly wants him. The club could gift him to Klopp for doing so well the past couple of years but they are looking to recover money through sales as the owners face huge issues.}

04 Aug 2020 14:10:53
Do the owners face Financial issues in general or are they specifically related to Liverpool?

{Ed002's Note - Not just Liverpool - across their investments - remember the owners are investors across several sports. It could be that the shorter MLB season could be ended any time.}

04 Aug 2020 15:27:54
What are your thoughts on Liverpool maybe being bought in the future by an owner is 100% just liverpool focused, who has the vision to set them up like Chelsea and City who turn a profit even in the face of a global C.V.?

{Ed002's Note - The owners of Manchester City are City Football Group who has a stable of clubs - Manchester City, New York City, Yokohama F Marino, Lommel SK, Mumbai City, Girona, Montevideo City Torque (Atlético Torque), Sicjuan Jiuniu, Mumbai City, Atletico Venezuela, Lommel SK in Belgium and Melbourne City - and are looking to expand in to China and further in South America.

Chelsea is owned by someone dedicated to the club. Liverpool is owned by sports investors, so it will be different. Liverpool has a very high value so the sale to a single individual would be difficult.

04 Aug 2020 16:13:17
Eds, any chance the owners could sell up so we can invest while we have a team that's at the top, instead of one that is waiting to get torn apart so the owners can take their cut? I know i'm one of the few on here who think the owners have taken us as far as they can and need to sell to owners who can give us backing, before Klopp gets pissed off, Thiago is the one he wants and he should be backed.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

04 Aug 2020 16:15:42
Should FSG seek investment in the club, even if this means they have to give up a ownership percentage? I like that what FSG have done for the club but surely they as businesses owners that know we have funding issues to address would look for investment?

{Ed002's Note - If someone buys 25% of the club for £500M that is the owners money - not the club's money to buy new players with.}

04 Aug 2020 17:10:05
Not necessarily. Someone could buy the business and structure it so there was a capital investment In the club. I. e. £500m For 20% but £100m of it by way of cash into the club.

Working on a deal structure similar myself right now, although not at those levels!

{Ed002's Note - You don't seem to get that the owners are investors and care primarily about their money - they have no intention of continuing to putting money in to the club once the growth has flat-lined - and right now they have serious financial difficulties.}

04 Aug 2020 17:45:01
FSG are great investors and bought us the league and CL will always be grateful, we have a great squad and manager, so let's crack on.

04 Aug 2020 18:44:00
They are all about themselves, fed up seeing that muggings John Henry taking credit, klopp did this for us not him. They didn’t buy anyone last year, bought a Cheepo in January now they don’t spend again. I want them out. I’m grateful to klopp not them.

{Ed002's Note - The owners don’t pick the players.}

04 Aug 2020 20:26:14
Mattbea I'm not sure if you remember the predicament we were in when they took over. Champions and premier leagues were the least of our concerns at the time but they dragged us up to colossus we are now. They are not perfect and have made mistakes but I don't think you can fault their commitment to us.

04 Aug 2020 21:50:21
If klopp hadn’t came we’d still be 8th.

04 Aug 2020 22:44:43
It’s an interesting point you make Ed, that they could turn the club (potentially have done already) into such a valuable asset that they then can’t sell it. I’m always wary of having a couple of owners, particularly if their stake is reasonably large, like what happened at Arsenal where 2 big players seemed to be at loggerheads, and didn’t H&G have a pretty big falling out too?

04 Aug 2020 23:09:24
Painful if people are going to start giving grief to the owners again. Nonsense like 140million for Coutinho mentioned by Sly Sports won't have helped and their silly net spend amounts. Liverpool won't have gotten anywhere near that money for Coutinho and the cost of transfers plus fees likely costs more than what they announce so the net spend propaganda isn't accurate.

The club is going in the right direction overall financially but it's not in a great place yet, not good at the moment.

In my opinion, two signings would be enough with a half dozen on the way out. One winger/ forward and one defender (or maybe even no defender and let Nat Phillips replace Lovren unless we can get someone versatile who can cover left back as well) .

05 Aug 2020 05:22:57
So over the "fsgout" brigade.

05 Aug 2020 06:02:33
Im surprised anyone loves or dislikes the owners. They are background people who are in the business of making money. Its fortunate for the fans that success on the field leads to a greater chance of profits but don't kid yourselves that FSG are trying their best to make supporters happy. At the end of the day, if it was more profitable to be in the Championship than the Premier League, you can bet we would be heading on a downward trajectory.

05 Aug 2020 07:34:55
Oh I do get it Ed. Was just suggesting that they could sell a stake of it with the new investors also lending money to the club to invest on the field. Wouldn’t really be out of their pockets as such as the club would pay it back or it would come off the top if/ when sold. That’s if the club desperately needs cash but fsg are Struggling themselves.

I’m a big fan of fsg for what they’ve done for us but bet they’ll be struggling right now.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they did look to sell up to be honest. The value of LFC will be at a peak right now (if it wasn’t want due to C.V.) and I could imagine they’d want to de-risk themselves. They’d of come into this with a business plan to peak the value within 10 years say and then sell up to realise their return.

{Ed002's Note - That is not going to happen. The club are no longer able to underwrite any further debt. FSG have very serious problems and they could potentially get far worse in the coming weeks. They will, as I have explained, not be making any panic sale of Liverpoolo but when the opportunity for growth flattens out they will look to sell and use the money elsewhere where the opportunity for growth has yet to be exploited.}

05 Aug 2020 13:05:01
@MattBea you have a very short memory. When we needed a CB and Klopp wanted Van Dijk the owners backed him. When we needed a goalie and Alisson became available the owners said, yep, whatever he costs. Who did you want to buy last summer or in January when the squad we have was busy winning the Champions League and then Premier League by a country mile?