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15 Oct 2020 22:11:15
Evening ed 2.

Will we get any kind of loan fee for Herbie Kane going to Barnsley?

Also, is it true wr are asking Cardiff for £1million plus for a Harry Wilson loan?

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - (a) I would not think so. They may contribute to wages. (B) More.}


1.) 16 Oct 2020 14:44:54
Kane was sold for £1.25mil.

{Ed002's Note - Another shame isn't it. Another "club developed" player leaving.}


2.) 16 Oct 2020 15:49:45
Ed002 I don't think its a shame if he was only good enough for Barnsley and not even a low level prem side his never going to make it with us so good luck to the lad he can settle down at a club for the long term.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will he playing with smaller squads in Europe and when the rules in the Premier League change they will have a smaller squad than others sides. Kane was well thought of by the pub - I guess they don’t know their stuff.}


3.) 16 Oct 2020 19:03:26
he might have been well thought of ed but he was way down the pecking order and would have never got any minutes best thing for him like Brewster I wanted him to stay and play but would have done him no good.


4.) 16 Oct 2020 19:25:36
Sometimes Grino you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.


5.) 16 Oct 2020 20:04:27
The Irish Rover hopefully he does well there and gets a move back to the prem but it would have done him no good staying here. He is about to turn 22 in November and we are stacked out where he plays and it is much better for him to move and play first team football rather than play U23 level with us.


6.) 17 Oct 2020 09:54:41
Exactly Irish. If we’d kept hold of him we’d be accused of blocking his career. You really can’t win.
Unfortunately at all clubs the vast majority of promising youngsters don’t end up being good enough for the first team, especially at the top of the premier league.


7.) 17 Oct 2020 09:55:49
Grino75, I agree with you.
In fat, think about players who Liverpool willingly let go, any of them went on to do big things? Probably none. Unlike Sancho, De Bruyne, etc.
Think about Ibe, Solanke, and many more.
Prove 2 things,
1. Liverpool does well in letting go players who can’t make it.
2. Liverpool doesn’t develop enough good enough players.


 

 

20 Sep 2020 07:55:53
Morning eds n reds

Ed2, do you see AOC being sold in this transfer window.

I like him as he offers something i little different and he seems to give 100%. But i saw stat about how many games he has actually played since joing us, boy has he been injured a lot.

What kind of fee would we expect. as he is still only 27/ 28 i think.

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt it as it would further dilute the European squad size. And it is unclear when he will return from injury.}


1.) 20 Sep 2020 08:41:52
Thanks ed. Going to be a busy day on here i think.


2.) 20 Sep 2020 09:21:10
Who's going to buy an injured player?
Ox has a contract until 2023. He's a well-liked member of the squad with a big personality, homegrown and a good player when he's fit. So I can envisage him staying until the end of his contract and then being let go, similar to Lallana and Sturridge.


3.) 20 Sep 2020 12:33:32
We bought for £25million, we need money im sure there are teams who would be interested if they thought we would sell.

Could be that he may get less game time with our new signings.


4.) 20 Sep 2020 12:58:58
Thought it was closer to £36m. Since his injury against Roma? Ox has just been an expensive squad player and constantly injured. Not sure how he’ll get the chance to get back to peak now unless Gini, Keira leave and Hendo is injured but if he could I’d keep him. However, if a bid came in for £30-35m would be very tempting.


5.) 20 Sep 2020 13:57:46
Last season OX had a period where he was playing at a high level again and scoring every other game. He would be playing regularly if fully fit and starting a lot of games too. I do think at some point we have to look into moving him on just based on his injuries, him and Keita would be two midfielders I’d look to move on if the rest of them are playing at a high level come next summer. Keita has to prove something this season otherwise I’m done with him, he would have had enough chances to prove himself by then.


6.) 21 Sep 2020 03:59:01
If I could get rid of Keita now, I would gladly do it. He offered nothing in the game against chelsea or in fact any other games he has played in for us. I think he has had enough chances to show his ability. If we needed to sell someone now, he’s be first on the list to go!


7.) 22 Sep 2020 10:03:01
Totally agree. He was OK in the dead rubber games at the end of last season but as soon as the pressure is on he goes missing. I watched him in Germany before he came and was underwhelmed. After 62 games and 4 assists I, and an increasingly vocal corner of the support, have had enough. JK's recruitment record is amazingly good but penny for penny Keita has been a disaster. The only trouble with selling him is (and if I am wrong I would be happy to be put right by the Eds) I doubt that there is a single club in Europe that want him right now. Astonishing to think he cost more than Mo and Robbo put together! Incidentally, I haven't been on this forum for about 10 years and couldn't remember my user name or anything but best regards to the knowledgeable Eds and fellow posters. It's nice to be back on a forum that's not a bloodbath! Best wishes to all.

{Ed001's Note - welcome back, whoever you were! I totally agree on Keita, he doesn't have it nor does he seem bothered to try and get it. Such a shame as he was great before we bought him and then he just went all billy big balls.}


 

 

28 Aug 2020 20:47:21
Evening eds n reds from a v cold and wet wiltshire.

Ed2, do you expect us to get a fee for wijnaldum or will we let the contract run down, as we did with Can?

If so, what value do LFC put on him.

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want to sell him and raise money for a purchase - he could part fund that. The value is of little consequence as you need to then deduct say 25% for costs - so he would not cover the cost of what Bayern Munich want for Thiago. No doubt Liverpool will try and exploit the asking price after an illegal approach and turning his head.}


1.) 28 Aug 2020 21:45:13
Ta for your thoughts ed.


2.) 28 Aug 2020 22:43:49
With all that's going on at Barcelona I personally think we'd be doing very well to get €20m. Everything they do from this point on will be scrutinised. Granted, current financial climate, I reckon the prize of trying to win back to back would be worth the risk of losing gini for free. Provided his head isn't in the clouds however he doesn't strike me as a "diva" for want of a word.


3.) 28 Aug 2020 22:20:42
Ed002 sorry if asked before. I know clubs tap players all the time but is this a klopp thing? Has this been a habit of his or is it a fsg thing. Maybe a liverpool thing. I know shanks used to sound out a player years ago and fergie did the same. Its been going on for years. Are we the worst? Personally I think it stinks and its cheating.

{Ed002's Note - Clubs don’t tap up players all of the time.}


4.) 29 Aug 2020 07:39:50
We got into trouble for tapping up VVD, and by right, Klopp should learn from that and refrain from making the same costly mistake. Why is LFC not doing anything to prevent klopp from tapping up again?


5.) 29 Aug 2020 17:34:34
DAPred, Do you think it was worth it to tap up Van Dijk?


 

 

25 Jul 2020 09:37:48
Morning eds n reds

ed2, i was wondering if we lose several players with no fee coming in ie lallana would that make enough of a difference to be able to spend in the close season.

Lallana is on £80k a week ( a guess ) . Then perhaps 3 or 4 released players from u 23's. I know they are small change compred to first teamers.

Or do we have to sell players for consideranle fees.

Cheers matey.

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - The savings on wages free up wages rather than give spending money. The wage bill at Liverpool is very high (more than Manchester City and Chelsea) so any savings will be welcome. Players will be sold that likely free up funds to add a couple of players - Grujic, Karius, Shaqiri, Wilson, Miller, Lovren, Larouci etc. leaving will likely fund a player or two arriving as has been explained. But some of those funds would be lost in fees and some might be required elsewhere.}


1.) 25 Jul 2020 10:13:30
Cheers ed. You always reply and its much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 25 Jul 2020 10:58:09
Good morning ed. Hope Milner doesn't leave as an intense season approaches. Clyne, Lallana and Lovren leaving should free up a decent amount in wages as they were all on big money.

Hope we can at least bring in one first team starter, and lb cover. We though have room for internal growth, I am expecting Keita, Fabs, Firmino, Ox, all to have better seasons. Also Williams and Jones should have an increased role to play. Appreciate you work.


3.) 25 Jul 2020 12:43:58
Wow wage bill higher than City. Is that as a higher percentage of income on wages or just a higher figure being spent in general? Chelsea I could see as they’re not the star studded team they once were and have a few young academy players.

{Ed002's Note - It is the wages paid.}


4.) 25 Jul 2020 13:03:55
Agreed that is a surprise but its only £3m or so difference. Next year expect City to pay more than us.


5.) 25 Jul 2020 13:22:00
Even still, yeah only £3m but never in a million years I would have thought Liverpool would have a higher wage bill than City.


6.) 25 Jul 2020 14:58:31
I don’t think people realise how much wages we will save from Selling/ releasing certain players.

Lallana, Clyne, Lovren would be just under £15m a year savings, add to that Shaqiri and a few others might help offset the new contracts for our key players.


7.) 26 Jul 2020 01:52:38
Good lord - some on here are so disrespectful to our players treating them like meat at a meat market, all the best to Lallana and Clyne and thanks for the memories.


 

 

07 May 2020 14:51:43
Hello ed2, hope you and yours are all healthy and safe.

If we see a lot more player exchanges will this reduce the amount of money agents make on the back of these deals? If so will they try to resist these type of deals?

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference to what agents will look to charge. There are few clubs that seem happy to pay extreme agent charges (both English) whist other clubs simply shun away from moves if agents won't negotiate. Even if there are exchanges, transfers are assigned a fee so agents working on a percentate also get paid.}


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2020 18:00:48
Ed1, if you could change whatever and whoever in time for the new season that would be.?

wiltshire red

{Ed001's Note - the home kit.}


1.) 31 Aug 2020 18:57:14
🤣🤣 It's growing on me!


2.) 31 Aug 2020 19:20:32
I like it too. Not as much as last season's. But it's growing on me.


3.) 31 Aug 2020 19:56:45
Asked the mrs if she wanted a home shirt.

The look said it all.


4.) 31 Aug 2020 20:00:47
The neck reminds me of toothpaste?


5.) 31 Aug 2020 20:58:06
Robbie, that is Mad Ting, man.


6.) 31 Aug 2020 21:07:04
I’ve bought it. Still no Thiago.


7.) 31 Aug 2020 21:09:05
If they didn't have that white line down the side would rate it so much more.


8.) 31 Aug 2020 21:20:00
Looks like something from the 70's. What are they smoking at Nike, up there in Beaverton?


9.) 31 Aug 2020 22:41:30
exactly Ed. These kits are horrendous.

{Ed001's Note - it is the trim. What is with the back of the neck? It just looks wrong.}


10.) 01 Sep 2020 08:04:34
I don’t like the shade of red on the top either. Blood red is the way to go, IMO.


11.) 01 Sep 2020 10:20:42
The white stripe up the side makes us look like a Middlesbrough team from the 90’s!

I quite like the green, tho.


12.) 01 Sep 2020 12:28:53
Looks like we are secretly advertising for puregym.


13.) 01 Sep 2020 12:37:45
agree with Ed1. the neck is all wrong, looks like its on back to front!


 

 

22 Jul 2020 22:59:55
Take a bow FSG. You have taken us from mid table mediocraty to Champions league winners, World club and super cup winners.

You have supported the manager when he had wanted to spend big. You have made the ground bigger. You are biulding a new training ground.

You never look to steal the limelight from this amazing club and team.

I fhope you stay for many years and bring me so many more amazing evenings.

You deseve this night as much as anyone else.

THANKYOU, from a rather drunk and tearful west country red.

wiltshire red

1.) 22 Jul 2020 23:51:08
Agreed but I think klopp deserves that praise. 🤴.


2.) 23 Jul 2020 01:47:00
Klopp is getting plenty of praise. And I think it's a great post and has to be said. Klopp was happy to pick up Robbo for 8mil, matip on a free, klavan for a few mil. But when he told them what we lacked they bought the worlds most expensive cb. Spent 60 on a keeper, 55 9n a cm (who had a great g as me tonight. If keita can put those performances in consistently then he will prove to be a great player I think. They've funded many 30 odd mil players in gini, ox, salah and mane.

They've been good to us. So yes, thank you John Henry and fsg.


3.) 23 Jul 2020 12:42:42
Livergat, and who signed Klopp to become manager of LFC? Did you also know that John Henry did not even want to hire Klopp due to his last difficult season he had at Dortmund and where they finished?

Do you know that it was the the Data Analytics team who convinced him to sign Klopp after they crunched the numbers of Dortmund's last 10 seasons and showed him that Klopp had a poor season due to some severe bad luck with injuries?

If Henry had not let himself be convinced to get Klopp, All of this never happens so now that you know the true story of how Klopp got hired by LFC, I am hoping you will amend that post and give credit where it is due. I doubt you will, tho.


4.) 23 Jul 2020 12:51:54
Crickey, didn't realise how vad they all are. I stand corrected.


5.) 23 Jul 2020 20:59:05
Dont need to amend, your small bit of knowledge is widely known, as per post I agreed then declared that klopp deserved that praise, PSG got the top man and he produced the goods. For what it's worth red meister, I know Tom Werner, he is a gentleman and a businessman and without klopp I digress that we would not be having this conversation. So relax and enjoy yourself as lfc are kings again.


6.) 24 Jul 2020 10:32:18
Livergat, I know that this knowledge is well known. It just looked like your initial post was trying to take credit away from FSG and only give it to Klopp. My bad and I stand corrected. Cheers, man.


 

 

24 May 2020 16:53:38
Afternoon all, hope your all well.

Ive just watched highlights of istanbul and the semi final against Barcelona. Made me go all goosepimply. i've been smilling all afternoon. A good pick me up if you need it.

What do you lot watch if your feeling a little low?

wiltshire red

1.) 24 May 2020 17:29:01
Fake Taxi.


2.) 24 May 2020 18:33:23
nice one Liverpoolfc8.


 

 

18 May 2020 15:27:14
I see the one of the conditions for players returning is that they will have designated parking spaces at least 3 spaces from the next nearest car.

The womens teams will be happy. My mr's can't park for toffee.

wiltshire red

 

 

10 May 2020 11:19:55
Morning all hope your all well.

It looks as though my local club, Swindon are going to be promoted. The chatter down here is that the league is now done and dusted and they will be placed on a pionts per game basis.

Dont know if its true and does not have any effect on LFC or the Premier League. At least there is a conclusion.

Eds, do you know if a, its true and b, will the premier league take any notice.

Going for a long walk now. Found a pub that i can buy a take away pint.

wiltshire red

{Ed002's Note - (a) There is no firm agreement at this time but I very much suspect it will not be viable to restart League 1 or League 2. The clubs need to vote and I would think by next weekend that the decision will be made. (b) The issue of promotion is far more complex as it needs negotiation with the leagues above and really should be part of a larger agreement on how seasons should end if they need to do so. My preference would be for promotion of two sides through the leagues and no relegation - three PL sides have raised questions over the concept and one PL side is so vigorously that they have effectively issued threats against other sides. The advantage League 1 and League 2 have is negotiating with the EFL might be possible.}


1.) 10 May 2020 11:44:19
And if these teams was to be promoted Ed would the teams in 1st place be declared as Champions or just straight promotions.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody is discussing such matters.}


2.) 10 May 2020 11:46:15
Thanks ed.


3.) 11 May 2020 19:10:42
White evangelicals are not the only ones voting trump. I do realize that’s not technically what you said Ed002. They definitely got him over the line though, just as the African American population got Obama over (and failed to turn up for Hilary) . Love him or hate him, trump has definitely shone a light on a lot of things that needed exposing, even if he is as dirty as the rest of washington.

And the Midwest is behind in a lot of ways, but the more urbanized regions leave much more to be desired with extensive homeless populations, crime/ gangs, cost of living. I much prefer rural living.

Hope you’re well Ed002. I am surprised rodeos weren’t considered essential business. Florida kept wrestling events open after all. No love for the adventurers like yourself I suppose.


 

 

 

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03 Oct 2020 06:15:41
Does anyone know how many players must test positive, then they have to cancel a game?

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24 Sep 2020 07:53:34
ta very much. Either amount is not bad as he obly played 1 game for us.

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23 Sep 2020 18:13:16
Ed, how much approx are we asking? . And how muvh would Burnley pay?

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{Ed002's Note - £20M at least - perhaps £12M or so.}


 

 

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20 Sep 2020 12:33:32
We bought for £25million, we need money im sure there are teams who would be interested if they thought we would sell.

Could be that he may get less game time with our new signings.

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20 Sep 2020 08:41:52
Thanks ed. Going to be a busy day on here i think.

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01 Oct 2020 06:10:32
Liverpool
Man city
Leicester
Wolves.

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26 Sep 2020 13:58:30
Spot on Davey. I don't have facebook/ twitter/ instagram. Im older so probably a bit old fashioned. These people feel safe in their dark, dingy, under stairs cupboard. They think that they are entitled to say these things as they are 'supporters'.

The potential damage to all players mental state is unmeasurable. If someone tells you something often enough you might start to beleive it.

oh i pine for the Saturdays at 5 30 when the only way you could get match reports quickly was to buy the 'Football Pink' instead of pisting 2 mins after a game and always complaining because your team let in 2 goals and we only scored 7.

Do these morons remember not so long ago that TAA was not so great at defending. Look how he has improved. The same will happen with Young Neco, with good coaching, experiance, and a little time.

This site is the only online input i do. You guys ST/ southern red / salah etc along with the eds whose knowledge and humour (ed25) make me check this site every few hours.

But if i saw a lot of player trashing i would stop visiting.

There, rant over.

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22 Sep 2020 14:27:35
If that was the case we would qualify for the champions league and the Mancs would get relagated.

Tempting.

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20 Sep 2020 12:36:49
Did you see the documentary on spurs a while back. Jose was calling him lazy, he looked well hacked off.

Hes been poor for a while. I reckon he needs a change of club. Not sure if i would want him though.

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19 Sep 2020 17:28:40
Corness carressed corner captivates.

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