Liverpool Banter 2

05 Apr 2026 20:02:37
Players are looking for an exit that's why the behaviour is what it is with them. This is why we need Alonso in now so the players maybe start looking forward to training and can understand the direction there being given and start enjoying playing football again! Alonso ain't going to change the course of our season but he still has time to get the players on board and excited for a new season.

This is why we need him now.

05 Apr 2026 20:21:38
For me, Jimjam, they are checked out cos the manager has clearly done the same. Hence, they are prolly keeping themselves injury free for the WC approaching.

05 Apr 2026 20:29:14
So you don't think they'd jump at a move to get away from Slot oily?

05 Apr 2026 20:38:39
Alonso doesn't want the job until the summer. This has been explained multiple times.

05 Apr 2026 20:41:41
Jimjim, I think there's a very good chance of a number of them jumping ship if we don't get Champions League.

05 Apr 2026 21:05:04
That's for sure, Chewy! And, Amiej, you jump at the job you want if it becomes available n even if it was in his contract that he couldn't take a job that becomes invalid if you're sacked! That means your contract is over, but you would have to miss out on bonus money, but that can be made up.

05 Apr 2026 22:41:29
Players should still have personal pride though. If not to do it for the fans, do it for themselves; for next season, they should not want to be playing on a Thursday.

06 Apr 2026 02:12:56
It's easier said than done, Florian, especially when you're playing for somebody who's completely incapable.

05 Apr 2026 17:03:17
So what exactly was Szobo having a go at the travelling fans for?

Those same fans who actually stayed until the end.

I've not actually looked at what transpired, nor what he said / did. So I'll reserve any judgement for now.

Yesterday was just the straw that broke the camel's back, I reckon.

Fans leaving with 30 mins remaining, VVD admitting that the players gave up, Szobo and the fans thing, fans singing Gerrard's name, the whole Hugo / Cherki shirt swap thing, our very ITKs saying that the board are not happy with the players after Szobo's incident.

This is just uncharted territory for us.

05 Apr 2026 17:22:47
Time for a change methinks.

05 Apr 2026 18:23:38
Expecting the fans to blindly support this nonsense 😂 Is he having a laugh? What an idiot.

05 Apr 2026 18:52:21
Defending people who he works with and considers friends, I would say LFC, and asking fans for more support.

I mentioned already my thoughts on the rumours page.

Not a fan of calling this guy an idiot. Or Slot for that manner while we're at it.

I have no problem with people saying an intern could do better right now, or the tactics are awful, or that he fails to motivate players, or that a player is too slow, legs have gone, someone is useless to the team, whatever.

Criticize performance to the max that you want.

But calling players or coaches things like idiot, clown etc., personally can't stand it. You do what you want, I guess, but to me, it's just toxic crap.

He shrugged his shoulders for goodness sake. Get over it.

05 Apr 2026 19:06:22
Davey, fans pay for the right to make comments about players and coach. They don't throw their arms up when the fans are cheering them, so the fans have the right to express their anger as long as it is not violent.


I respect where you're coming from, Davey, and your opinion, but you need to respect what the fans are paying for, plus they want to put up the tickets, mate.

05 Apr 2026 19:50:10
But that doesn't give the fans the right to slag off players who are trying their best. Sobo is one guy who gives 100% every game. Maybe it's the manager who is at fault, making players play out of position or using tactics the players don't agree with.

05 Apr 2026 19:44:34
I respect paying money albeyred. Trust me. It's a lot to watch what we are watching. And I respect LFC8 a lot. We agree on many things so perhaps I went a bit too hard there on a very valued poster so apologies for that.

Personally, I think we are at the point of booing and leaving early to make a point. It's almost all we got to make a point.

Paying money certainly gives right to criticize many things performance related. We do it all the time here. I do it almost daily.

But let's not go into name calling. They still represent us and Szobo has given a lot this season in a really tough season. Doesn't sit well with me to call him an idiot and I reacted

Slot deserves all the performance criticism he is getting. He is truly awful this season and can't wait till he leaves. But some stuff, mostly away from this site, is sickening. Should teach me to stick here with the intelligent folk.

He is a talented coach in a job that is too big for him and a league that is too fast for him. He is a family man and an intelligent person who is under massive pressure so making slip ups now and again in press conferences.
That is all that he is. He is a good man. Out of his depth but a good man.

Let's call it for what it is and avoid name calling. No need for it imo and paying money doesn't stretch to that right.

I'll leave it there because I feel bad for having a go at LFC8. Feel free to call me an idiot LFC8. Just one time though. It's all I can handle.

{Ed025's Note - good post that Davey..

05 Apr 2026 20:05:42
Some fans get way too close to football players they've never met. 😂

Jog around, lose your match, pick up your wage, and f*** off home. Criticising fans after a 4-0 drumming is embarrassing.

05 Apr 2026 20:09:59
Good post, Davey.

05 Apr 2026 20:11:02
No need, Davey, it's all love between us Liverpool fans.

I'm just more for the fans rather than a player if you know what I mean. I'd back you over a player for instance. Coz we are what make Liverpool special, as Shanks believed.

05 Apr 2026 20:14:10
Slob has been our best player this season by a country mile, but if he can't read the room, if he's shrugging his shoulders at them, he can't expect the fans just to cheer endlessly.

But these players are not in touch with the fans like they used to be, they live in walled mansion n most don't even live in the Merseyside area, they only hear the noise when it's directed at them.

05 Apr 2026 20:20:02
I appreciate that, LFC8, because truth is I couldn't have handled it. Not even one time. 😂

05 Apr 2026 20:28:20
Those players earn more in a year than the average fan will earn in a lifetime, if they can't deal with a bit of legitimate criticism, then tough. They need to pull themselves together and stop being such big girls blouses. It'll get worse than that if this carries on.

05 Apr 2026 20:28:49
Davey, multiple things can be correct at the same time and your points are more than valid. I have criticised Slot for everything that has to do with his actual work as a manager this season. Many of us have.

However, when people start taking the mick, stripping him of his credit and merit of actually dominating the PL last season (the numbers are off the charts, btw) is where I have always drawn the line.

We can criticise his work while at the same time giving him his due credit for dogwalking the whole league last season.

When I say he is feckless, arrogant etc., it is me addressing his attitude to his job. I have never attacked him personally cos I don't know the man. And if I have done so without me knowing it then, I fully apologise, as that was not my intention.

05 Apr 2026 20:57:12
What Dom did was wrong, no doubt about it, but what I will say is, he must be overwhelmingly frustrated. He's playing for a clueless fool who's been sticking him at RB for half the season. Dom's been playing out of his skin pretty much all season. He gives 110%, he's the only one out there who actually looks proper match fit, which means he's definitely doing extra conditioning work outside of team training.



Dom without doubt recognises that Arne is the issue, and I'm sure he feels like the fans can still support the players without having to back the manager. No, he shouldn't have done what he did, but put yourself in his shoes, and it's easy to understand why he's so frustrated.

05 Apr 2026 21:51:54
But Chewy, do you think that when the fans are leaving early after that performance yesterday that they are only frustrated with the manager? Dom has been good all season, but Jesus, I wudnt blame anyone who left that early yesterday.

05 Apr 2026 22:26:38
Davey, mate, I would never call you an idiot. I read your post and enjoy them, and 95% of the time I agree fully with what you have posted.
The point I was trying to highlight was the fans are frustrated. Having paid good money to watch their team they love and follow everywhere, and yes, they have kept their anger well, but Saturday was the straw that broke the camel's back, and the fans could not hold back any longer.

Sboz should of seen that and waved and just retired to the changing rooms. Sboz has been great all season, and I don't think the fans were having a go at him, but certain players, who let the side down not just on the day but for several months, also the head coach, who has deserved the fans' anger.
I did not mean any disrespect towards you, Davey, and hope you carry on posting your thoughts, mate.

06 Apr 2026 02:10:57
They're frustrated with the manager, the players, the execs, the owners, the whole lot, it's a complete joke. My point is that Dom is just as frustrated, he's 10x times more fed up than we are. As a footballer, there's few things more infuriating than playing for a moron who doesn't know what he's doing and whose managerial decisions are effectively sabotaging the team.

05 Apr 2026 16:41:48
How to express your passion.

Now, for some reason I think I recall that posting links is not allowed here. So spend 30 seconds googling Fenway Sports Group and go to Media, then inquiries and let them know what you think of them giving up on us and forcing us to watch pure dog s&^% football under Slot. Then go to Liverpoolfc dot com, make your way to the bottom of the page and follow the "contact us" link and once again, dump all your anger and vitriol out. At this point it is almost an intentional insult and there is, and can be, zero rational reason to continue to inflict this upon us.

05 Apr 2026 16:59:51
Those kinds of emails and responses will just get binned by the club's media team. What the club will respond to is when the majority of crowd turns at Anfield and that's not far away.

05 Apr 2026 17:10:44
Yes, I heard all of those enquiries from the contact us page get forwarded automatically to Tom Werner and John Henry marked as "high importance".

Yesterday was a joke on top of what has been an awful season, but some of the histrionics on here in the last 24 hours are a bit much.

05 Apr 2026 17:14:49
True, VV...
Need to hit these guys where it hurts.

As an example, I think it was in Australia, when bus drivers went on strike due to certain grievances they had.

What did they do? They didn't send nasty emails, they didn't stay away from work, they didn't run the streets making a mess, they didn't send nasty worded emails...

they simply all went to work, and allowed the travellers to travel for free!

And yes, that quickly got the attention of those higher up, because it was their pockets that were impacted.

05 Apr 2026 17:19:43
Chicagored,
Grow up. What needs to happen will happen at the end of the season. It's not the first time we've had a bad season, and it won't be the last. With this new breed of Liverpool supporters, everything is so dramatic. If things are not going well, they are looking at every little thing to moan about. Ekitike swaps shirts while he is on the bench, with both players having been subbed - scandalous! Szobozlai, clearly frustrated with both the teams and his own performances, asks fans why they don't support the team when they need it most - disrespectful.

I will go as far as to say that any supporters who left with half an hour to go are not genuine Liverpool supporters. Don't they understand the words or sentiment of 'You'll Never Walk Alone?' It is when times are tough that teams need their supporters.

05 Apr 2026 17:23:36
Well, I guess it's a good placebo if folks on here want to vent some steam, Gvardiol....

05 Apr 2026 19:08:15
Good to see Beckers Peckers back with another new username.

05 Apr 2026 19:26:06
Can't believe anyone is giving that take from Kemlyn a thumbs up. Must have made six new accounts to thumb himself up.

How would demonstrating frustration and disapproval for the poor management of the club not make someone a "genuine" supporter? Thinking you can decide who is and is not a supporter is wild levels of self-importance. Not to mention the OP said nothing about the players.

We can all disagree how you want to express frustration, but YNWA applies between supporters just as much as between the club/team and supporters.

05 Apr 2026 20:33:05
They paid their money and had every right to vent, getting battered 4-0 is one thing, but the complete self awareness of swapping shirts before the game has ended whilst on the end of a drubbing is mind blowing. It shows the players don't care.

The fact that Szoboszlai had the brass neck to have a pop at travelling supporters, who were rightly pissed off, is off the scale lack of self awareness. You've just been absolutely battered. Show some respect to those fans who stayed to the end.

05 Apr 2026 15:16:52
Pardon my ignorance, but don’t the club conduct meetings with fan groups to discuss issues Liverpool related and fans to air concerns? Seems the club is becoming out of touch with fans, which is not what LFC stand for.

05 Apr 2026 16:13:01
Well, the fans walked out early yesterday so I think that says everything.

05 Apr 2026 16:31:44
As far as I'm aware, the Spirit of Shankly have a say on certain matters. I doubt very much that that stretches to having an input on the sacking of a Head Coach, though.

05 Apr 2026 16:46:38
Don't we have an AGM meeting or something?

05 Apr 2026 14:32:47
Lack of fitness really rears its head when you’re behind or towards the end of a half.
Fatigue affects concentration and you make silly mistakes, either conceding or missing easy chances.
It’s obvious that’s been a huge problem for us. At the beginning of the season we were nicking results late in games. Now other team's fitness has clearly overtaken ours. We’re on the wrong end of those outcomes.
Secondly, recently, when we’ve been behind, there seems to be no energy to turn it around.

I’m sure the players care. They’re just under-conditioned for the Premier League.

No doubt they’d be flying in the Eredivise.

Fitness and Leadership are the biggest issues the players face.

A new manager and fitness coaches can turn fitness around in the summer.
Leadership is a bigger issue.
I think we need a “midfield enforcer” to come in and be the dressing room leader we need.

The central spine of the team is weak. Isak will make a difference when fit. Becker will too, but we need to work out his long-term replacement soon.
Central defence and midfield are something which a new manager needs to work out immediately.

05 Apr 2026 15:09:08
I think you give them too much credit, Ron. Yes, we're being managed by an absolute joker, so things have to be contextualized from that point, but if the players actually cared like they should, they'd take it upon themselves to improve their fitness, be competitive in games, fight until the last, and even ignore the "coach" that they clearly do not want to play for.


Everything below the part about Eredivisie, I agree with.

05 Apr 2026 15:10:20
100%. Ruben Peeters, Lead Physical Performance Coach, brought in from Feyenoord along with Slot, is not catching anywhere near enough flack. Apparently his whole angle at Feyenoord was increasing "player availability". I can only imagine they did this by reducing the intensity/frequency of training sessions, which of course aligns with the rumours we've been hearing.

That might have worked in the Red Light League, but they're dealing with elite athletes now. Sometimes less is more, but this is not one of those times.

05 Apr 2026 16:50:47
And when exactly will they work on their fitness in the summer?

Will they be given a fitness program to do in-between the games at the World Cup?

It's going to be a long summer and longer campaign next season.



Maybe we can buy 7/8 very fit players to make up for the lack of fitness now and lack of time that we'll have getting everyone to the required fitness levels for next season.

05 Apr 2026 17:02:29
Buy 7fit players in the summer, Slot will train that out of them by xmas.

05 Apr 2026 17:35:55
FYI, JLC - Not all our players will play in the final of the World Cup. 👍

05 Apr 2026 19:35:24
Not the final, Ron, but nearly all will be impacted. The fact that it is a WC year and the reduced training time haven't made the board assess the situation earlier than the end of the season is concerning.

Combined with Slot being out of ideas, losing the team, and producing terrible football for over 9 months, with no intervention, paints a really damning picture.

Obviously, changes can be made in the summer, but we're starting out so far behind, it will now be a monumental challenge for the club to get back on track at some point next season, let alone the start of the season.

Even if we get recruitment exactly right and the next manager is perfect at addressing all the problems that have developed over the last year, I'm worried we struggle for part of next season as well.

05 Apr 2026 21:03:59
The fact that our players haven’t really put much of a shift in all season (except Dom, who isn’t going to the World Cup) will probably make them perform better in USA, and they’ll probably be less gassed than players from other teams.



The World Cup will impact every Premier League squad, but our players may have a bit of a head start because they’ve been strolling for 10 months instead of battling.

05 Apr 2026 14:23:27
Can someone tell me what Hughes n Edwards do everyday at the club, esp Hughes, there is only so many players to look at, so many contracts to do, so many chats you can have with a manager, what is their actual day to day job?

05 Apr 2026 15:11:03
Fannying about by the looks of it.

05 Apr 2026 15:22:37
The thing about football is that it's really not that complicated.

The issue with these modern suits is they think they are galaxy brains playing 4d chess, and that's why they're paid so much money.

We just wouldn't get it. Their genius minds can see five years into the future, and have calculated that we will be the best team in Europe, so long as we persist through this "transition" period.

05 Apr 2026 15:32:53
Strom, what do people in similar roles at other clubs do? Very few of us know. I certainly don't know, or particularly care.

05 Apr 2026 17:01:40
What do Hughes and Edwards do? A circle jerk every morning with the loser eating the spoiled digestive.

05 Apr 2026 17:20:34
They analyze the Slot stats, saying we are performing great, and should have won every game if it wasn't for the opposition.

05 Apr 2026 19:12:51
Glad I'm not the only who is a bit clueless, but thanks, Viktor, I won't be eating Digestives ever again ha.

05 Apr 2026 20:31:19
If they really back the manager, then where is the contract extension? Asking for a friend.

05 Apr 2026 22:53:25
They probably read this and crack up at a lot of the posts.

05 Apr 2026 14:18:57
Jesus Christ, I have never heard a player admit that the team gave up. But, Van Dijk, our captain, has just admitted as such. It is one thing to see it and know it, but another to have it outrightly confirmed.

If I went to the match, paid the ticket, then I would be absolutely furious to hear that.

05 Apr 2026 14:42:55
He's just not a leader for me. Great player, don't get me wrong, but in many respects the game has come too easy for him. In the past he's been able to stroll through the game, he's quick and can recover. He's dominant in the air so he's been able to be out of position and cope.

He's never been a 'blood, guts and thunder' type of player, he didn't need to be.

Now the game is too quick for him to recover, he's struggling.

Great servant, tough to replace, needs to be done ASAP.

05 Apr 2026 15:12:12
Agreed, not a leader, not a fighter, no grit, no passion. Great servant, will always be remembered fondly, but his time is up for me.

05 Apr 2026 15:46:17
I don't think his time is, but maybe it's time to remove the captaincy from him, I remember GH taking it from Sami Hyypia and gave to Gerard.
It improved his game if I remember.

05 Apr 2026 15:53:49
Funny how Mo's been crucified by fans, yet Van Diijk is having a woeful season and people are still backing him. He's 35 and having the worst season of his career. He's not recovering from this. Get a fee for him while we still can before we end up in the exact same situation with him next season as we did with Salah.

05 Apr 2026 16:00:28
Similar predicament to Salah, if he doesn’t ask to leave we have to pay up his contract, or at least part, and what would we get for him, probably less than his wages for the year.

05 Apr 2026 16:25:42
It's time to move him and get some fee. Legend and all that but he is done at top level and is 35 so yea no hard feelings, but he can go to MLS with Salah.

05 Apr 2026 19:02:12
I've been saying for weeks Vvd is a s**t captain, he has been making excuses since they apparently had a players only meeting in December, so sick of the players coming out and saying they don't understand what's going wrong, what's wrong is they're unfit and look like they don't give a flying f***.

05 Apr 2026 19:41:39
I agree Vvd hasn't been great this year, but I also agree with Chewy that Salah has gotten far worse treatment this season, and the treatment of Vvd and Salah is not consistent.

I also think this is why it's so damaging for the club to have persisted with Slot because now we're in the position of talking about "getting rid" of two legends who don't want to leave and could still have so much to offer because we're grasping for any solution to improve the team or blame players for the poor performances.



I think it's damage done to the club because both these players are class and if used properly in a team that hasn't been literally beaten into submission by Slotball negativity and poor fitness, they have a lot to offer on the pitch and even more to offer off the pitch.

{Ed025's Note - im not having that Snuggle, their poor form has been one of the reasons you have been struggling mate, these are seasoned internationals who cant control a ball or make a tackle and i know Slot has a lot to answer for but so do them 2 who are supposed to be leaders, the only thing wrong here is that you are very unlikely to get any money for them..

05 Apr 2026 20:32:01
Did we really need Vvd to say or infer that, op? We can see that with our own eyes, no?

05 Apr 2026 14:16:56
Worst case scenario this season is we are eliminated from CL by PSG and we don't finish 5th. I am in the Slot out camp simply because of the turgid performances and tactics.

We have been in worst situations than above. Does no one remember Roy Hodgson's era with the club days away from administration?

I have supported LFC since 1981. Like everyone else I have seen highs and lows.

Highs. Too many to mention.

Lows: Souness era, Evans era of Spice Boys, Houllier era (last 2 years of it 1-9-1 tactics), Hodgson era, Rodgers era (Luis Suarez dragged us nearly to the league title).



We won the league last season when we had no right to. Most agreed that finishing top 4 and a good cup run would be a good result from Slot's first season.

Next season will be a fresh slate with new manager, few new players and a stronger LFC.

Let us put things into perspective.

Arne Slot will be gone and we will rise again.

05 Apr 2026 14:44:05
Good post, CL qualification is important but not vital.

05 Apr 2026 14:56:31
I think CL qualification is pretty vital myself. How much revenue does it generate? Massive loss in my opinion.

05 Apr 2026 14:57:47
So one year after winning the league and signing players worth a fortune, and watching the drop off under Slot, and the loss of faith from a fans' perspective, it's not vital we get Champions League? Of course it is, for the money, the pull of the club when it comes to signings, the whole mood of the fanbase.
If we don't qualify after one season of winning the league, then the negligence from FSG in not stopping the rot before Xmas is beyond huge.
I still cannot get my head around us not changing things earlier on, when it was clear things weren't working, and if any of this is down to the arrogance of Edwards and Hughes wanting to prorect their man, then the lot need to be outed.


This is Liverpool Football Club, not a project club or a club to keep putting back in transition, a club that should expect the highest order every season.
I'm sorry, but the Europa League isn't somewhere we need to be one season after walking the Premier League.
YNWA.

05 Apr 2026 15:05:17
For one season it's not vital, otherwise we would have sacked Klopp when he didn't qualify.

"Vital" to me means the club will take years to recover. It's simply not true that one season out of CL will cause that. Several seasons would, which is why lack of CL will lead to changes.

05 Apr 2026 15:18:08
Heavily disagree, Ron, it's absolutely vital. Not qualifying will see us lose £100+ million in revenue, meaning a reduced transfer budget and making us a far less attractive project to any potential transfer prospects. It will also leave us with our own players more likely to consider moves elsewhere.

05 Apr 2026 15:28:44
I also remember how long it took for us to recover from those bad periods, AYB. It was years of football being miserable.

I don't want the trio of frauds Edwards, Hughes and Slot blowing Klopp's legacy with their incompetence. We've been too patient watching the club catch up on the pitch and financially to allow these fools to come in and ruin it.

05 Apr 2026 16:28:58
I think you guys are forgetting we will still be in Europa League, which still is 30mill in revenue and another 20mill if we win it. So, yea it's not absolutely vital, but does not mean we should be giving it our everything.

05 Apr 2026 17:05:34
Cafu, I really hope you're joking mate.

05 Apr 2026 17:15:16
Europa League is massively disruptive to a league campaign. The absolute maximum a team can earn, including winning the final, is substantially less than what you're saying, Cafu. If a team had a perfect run this season, this is how the prize money would work out.

League Phase Participation Fee £3.74m
8 League Wins (EUR450k per win) £3.13m
1st Place Ranking Bonus (36 shares) £2.35m
Top 8 Finish Bonus £521k
Round of 16 Qualification £1.52m
Quarter-final Qualification £2.17m
Semi-final Qualification £3.65m
Finalist Bonus £6.08m
Champion's Bonus £5.21m
TOTAL £28.37m

Compare that with what we've already got from the year's Champions League, which is around £83m.

That's a £50m+ black hole in the budget. And that's without discussing the hugely disruptive impact Thursday night football has on the bread and butter of the league campaign. Don't sit there and paint it as being ok. It's nothing but toxic positivity.

05 Apr 2026 17:38:57
What was it when Klopp didn't qualify for the CL?

Presumably, the club folded and we sold all our first team players...

Or, maybe it wasn't the death knell it's being painted as. Maybe it turned out "OK"?

05 Apr 2026 17:56:40
Ron, the club survived it because it was the only time in eight full seasons that Klopp didn't achieve Champions League qualification. Everyone knew what the issue was (the midfield), Klopp said "mea culpa", but everyone still trusted Klopp to put us right again and players still wanted to come and play for Klopp. He had earned that.

Financially, we invested okay that summer. We let go of some big earners that summer (Firmino, Henderson, Milner, Fabinho).

Could we have invested more if we had qualified for the Champions League? Probably.

I'm not so certain that failure to qualify for the Champions League will be interpreted as a blip as much as it was last time. We will be left to convince players of the validity of the project again. Urgent course correction is needed at the club, preferably before the end of the season.

05 Apr 2026 20:34:52
Spot on, Babbity. And btw, many of us hated watching us play EL that season and couldn't wait for us to get back to CL footie the season after.

Is CL vital? It depends on what you think a lack of CL footie would impact us, esp.

when it comes to being able to attract the actual players we need of a higher quality. Pretty subjective, imo.

05 Apr 2026 20:51:52
From vital to death knell? Upping the ante, Ron? I don't think anyone has suggested it would be the end of the club.

05 Apr 2026 13:35:18
At this rate Slot is after our lives with these performances, I streamed that match and was sat by myself but I tell you I felt ashamed (why I don't know). Haaland used to hardly have a sniff Vs Liverpool. We've been humiliated 3 times just this season already and whatever aura we had left If any is surely gone.