27 Dec 2017 08:37:19
Ed 001, can't understand your criticism of Robertson. He's head and shoulders above Moreno. Shouldn't even be a debating point. Agreed he's not world class but neither are any of our other defenders. At the moment he's doing a job and doing it far better than Moreno.

{Ed001's Note - is he? In what way do you think he is doing better? He is struggling defensively, can't stop crosses, can't put crosses in and looked half the player TAA was on the other side. I think you are seeing something that is not there in your desperation to be a boo boy and get on Moreno's back. Moreno has been much better than Robertson this season. You have been verbally masturbating over every Robertson performance, you must be related to him or something because you are seeing something that isn't there yet.}

1.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 10:56:20
I'm with you there Ed1. Moreno ahead of Robertson anyday of the week for me.

2.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 11:06:19
I think Robertson has done ok since he's filled in. He's hardly a top class left back but for 8 mill he's not really put a foot wrong for me. Moreno has improved considerably this year and recovered well from his Sevilla nightmare which shows how strong his character is. Roberston has been receiving a little bit of stick whilst the Ox has been getting the praises. However I think If Klopp fielded his strongest team neither would be in the starting 11.

3.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 11:07:33
Not much to split them in my opinion. Moreno offers more going forward because of his pace but defensively they are both on a similar level, moreno is just more rash in tackles at times. Moreno just edges it for me. Robbo is certainly challenging for that position when Moreno is fit again. Either way that position is being played better than Milner played it last season imo.

4.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 11:09:05
I think they are of a similar level to be honest. But have to admit iam far less nervous when Robertson is defending around or in the box. Compared to moreno who is very rash at times. Just my opinion. Anyway great performance 2nd half last night after a slow start. So glad Firmino is getting the goals and acknowledgement he deserves fantastic player.

5.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 11:10:43
I think Moreno has been pretty good this season. I don't understand the acquisition of Robertson myself as he is not at Moreno level at the moment maybe he will surpass him maybe not. But he's not the level or calibre yet of what was needed.

6.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 11:52:35
How many points/ goals has Moreno cost us? And how many has Robertson? On that basis alone Moreno should never go on that team sheet ahead of Robbo.

I'm not saying he's the answer to our left back issue but at the moment he's the best we've got and hasn't cost us any points so let's get behind him instead of getting on his back.

7.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 12:02:10
Robbo over Moreno all day long for me. Neither are brilliant but Moreno, as much as he’s improved is an accident waiting to happen and we already have CBs and a keeper that make enough mistakes.

8.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 12:03:45
Difficult one this, moreno has improved yes but still has it in him to have a complete disaster of a game, a dangerously rash tackle, a defencive brain fart or being caught upfield, he’s improved in these areas but it’s still in him and that makes the team and defence nervous in my opinion, he is however quite good this season going forward, much more effective than he has been previously.
Robbo I find is more consistent than moreno in that each performance is roughly the same, that being said his performances have all been below par, I do find him better defensively and the rest of the defence seems to be more organised with him in it, he’s been quite poor going forward though.
Robbo needs to do much more in this run of games to get the place in my opinion, he needs to better understand our forwards runs so his crossing is much more effective, I would like to think he has it in him to take morenos place but I don’t think he will.
Long term I don’t think either are the answer and both are expendable in my eyes as soon as someone better is found, would love to be proven wrong though, both players being at a similar level should spur them both on to fight for the place and I don’t see replacing them as a matter of urgency like I did last year, we need a new goalie and centre back first.

9.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 12:19:13
the reason why Robertson become first choice LB is because Moreno is injured. if not Robertson will back to his normal position, bench.

10.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 12:29:56
Everyone has their own opinion but the fact is Robertson is finding his feet as a Liverpool player. His deliveries are much better than Moreno’s and he doesn’t self destruct like Moreno. Defensively we have been solid since he has come in, Arsenal game aside for which 2 of the goals were down to the clown in goal. Robertson will be a steady 7 out of 10 week in week out. Hard to judge him against TAA who is really developing into an excellent player. For him to be performing like that at 19 years old is an excellent sign for the future . Him and Gomez have saved us a fortune!

11.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 12:55:42
The lad is a good signing and will get better has been a massive step up, but he's doing fairly well I watched him all season at hull and he is solid and works hard for the team, don't think he has done an awful lot wrong in his games this season, in the games Trent has played he has also been caught out but both have great potential and pleased getting games, I have no problem with Moreno his attitude has been fantastic and deserves his place up until he got injured . Although we won 5-0 I thought the team in general where all average so I feel the criticism of Robertson is a bit harsh except for firminho who was fantastic the team was a bit slow and passing was poor all over the place at times and against better operation would come unstuck.

12.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 13:05:10
Aimlessly crossing the ball into the box doesn't count as good delivery. I can imagine that he has been talked to about this by Klopp. As in the recent weeks the number of crosses put by him has gone down.

I don't understand how people say that he is defensively solid is beyond me. The only outlet Swansea had in the entire match is from his side and at one point he was beaten by Wayne Routledge by an old 'kick the ball past and run' trick. To be honest Milner did more offensively and defensively in that match than Robbo. That is not me saying Milner should be playing there. Cause I am not.

I don't hate Robertson, he is okay from what I have seen till now and nothing more. Moreno has done more and imo has the tools to be even better. So I don't get this obession with having Robbo in our starting XI? The only logical explanation is the last time we were league champions we had a few Scotsmen in our starting XI :P.

13.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 13:14:44
I think that Robertson needs a good run in the team before he becomes first choice,
pity Robertson didn't play agianst Seville, having said that, we really need to invest some money in our goalie and back four, when we do that we will be top four every season,
cant be buying attacking players all the time, when you watch MOTD, some of the defensive errors are just not good enough,
but who do we bring in, this window, its got to be a centre back .

14.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 13:17:33
I don't think Robertson has done badly but also he's not don't that well, he's been nothing more than ok. My main issue with him is the same issue I had with Milner playing there, for some reason he keeps coming inside when he gets the ball and closes down other peoples space. After watching him the couple of times he has played I would say the only attribute he has over Moreno is that he doesn't make rash/ ridiculously stupid challenges in dangerous areas. Being as we've dominated the ball in our last several games I think we've missed Moreno personally.

15.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 13:32:43
He’s got quite a distance to go yet. Maybe a few more matches where he’s put under pressure might be the making of the lad. As it is, he hasn’t been tested yet still has been beaten far too easily on occasion but while I’m not at all ready to say he’ll dislodge Moreno, I certainly think there has been a slight improvement in his game. This can only be a good thing for the lad, the club, and for Moreno as competition. I still think the first thing he needs to do is improve his decision making. Any lad can whip in a decent cross from the wing, but there’s no point if there’s no player waiting for it. I like his energy which can always be mistaken for ability but hopefully like the great Steve finan, he can surprise us all. For now, if Moreno was fit, he has to play.

16.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 13:46:38
don't get all this robbo bashing we all know he's not first choice left back and Moreno has been playing well but still prone to mistakes robbo is part of the Liverpool squad and we all have different opinions on players but just get behind the lad while he's in the team.

17.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 14:13:28
What I like about Robertson is his short range passing. Seems to be developing some chemistry with Coutinho in that department. Some smart runs to go along with that too.

He does have some adjusting to do at the other end. Seems to forget some of the basics from time to time, much like our other defenders. Klopp needs to take some time on the training field to adress this, like he has done with Moreno. Get the balance right between pressing/ dropping, starting a move forward/ circulating the ball and so on.

Seems a bit over eager the last couple of games.

18.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 14:14:33
also we look so much more fluid without hendo, really hope he leaves this summer maybe to stoke with his sideways twin allen.

19.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 14:12:30
i guess you're related to henderson then ed? robbo has improved every game now couts trusts him motm for me.

{Ed001's Note - I can't even be bothered with moronic comments like this. Couts trusts him? What kind of nonsense is that? The lad couldn't stop a single cross from the worst attacking side in the Premier League yet somehow he has become the messiah because he wasn't playing. Embarrassing. Moreno was far better this season, apart from one game. Robertson has a long way to go yet.

As for steve, it is not bashing him to pick out his many faults, it is stupidity to verbally masturbate over a player who is so far away from the level we need if we are to win things. He needs to be looking at his performances and learning from them, not be told he is great by the clueless lot that just want to use him to attack Moreno because they have decided he is their latest target for abuse.}

20.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 14:28:31
Lerchy, What does Hendo have to do with the Moreno/ Robbo discussion or are you just desperate for some Hendo bashing?

21.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 14:38:38
Redmist, if you are dwelling on the past perfs. of Moreno then you will always have something to moan about every LFC player BUT that is not the issue, is it? Robbo is not on Moreno's level just yet. People say they had seen a lot of him already in an LFC shirt. Well, the guy has only played 5 or 6 games so don't know how much one can conclude from so little games. Moreno is the better player and has improved both defensively and was already way better than Robbo offensively.

People say Robbo puts in good crosses. Sorry, his crosses are to no one in particular and just putting in inaccurate crosses is not a quality. Look at the crosses TAA puts in. They are quality. Also, Moreno is a bit more unpredictable in his crosses as you don't know if he will ping one in front of goal, the back post or cut it back. This makes him very difficult to defend against hence, way better than Robbo in this regard.

As I mentioned earlier, Robbo is still learning the way we play so needs to show more in more games and those bigging him up are doing him a disservice cos right now, he is just a work in progress. How a "work in progress" can be better than Moreno defies logic, IMO.

22.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 15:06:11
i was at the match lads and wij or couts didn't provide any cover but trent had emre and salah covering. i find it quite funny my comments to be moronic when the whole kop was buzzing off robbo. what i find moronic is thinking we can progress with moreno and hendo when they have offered nothing in the years they've been here. like the end of last season everyone's buzzing off migs improvement then he goes back to showing people exactly what he is, crap. as are the other two they're major liabilities. never been good enough and never will be so let's blindly support them, that's not moronic then? hendo is joe allens level and moreno ain't even junior level.

23.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 18:02:34
Final post on this topic.

The number of points Moreno has cost us he wouldn't get into any other Premiership team. I see Ed001 constantly slagging off Migs for costing us games and points but how is Moreno any different. Even when he has a decent game he is liable to making a rash challenge and giving away free kicks in dangerous areas and even penalties. He is also constantly being caught out of position bombing forward when we should be consolidating our lead with a few mins of the match remaining. If you're going to criticise Migs then by the same logic you should be criticising Moreno.

He is the weakest link in our defence and given what we have in the centre that's saying something. When Robbo starts costing us points I will readily begin laying into him. Until then I'm prepared to give back the lad and give him the chance he's waited for.

{Ed001's Note - I give up, people just want to see stuff that isn't there. I criticise Moreno when he makes mistakes as well but you are so busy talking crap you fail to read that. This whole thread is pointless. You are just all wasting my time with your inability to read. I will just ignore you in future, as it is pointless talking to someone who is unable to read the replies.}

24.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 22:32:06
Is this the same Moreno who was mercifully slagged off on here for the last 2 years. Comments like, " he should never put on a Liverpool shirt again ". " Not good enough, and never will be to play for Liverpool ". " Must be Klopp's favourite to be picked every game ". " Can't defend to save his life, and is nothing but a liability "
Oh, THAT Moreno.

25.) 27 Dec 2017
27 Dec 2017 22:33:55
Robbo has been steady since Moreno's injury. his better than Milner. like Spurs, we have adequate cover in the fullback areas. not world class, but adequate.