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18 Feb 2019 22:52:29
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18 Feb 2019 22:52:29
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18 Feb 2019 22:52:29
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18 Feb 2019 20:07:38
Two Updates:Liverpool ladies drew man city ladies in the Womens FA Cup 1/ 4 Finals.
Liverpool u23s presently playing West Ham u23s at Dagenham half-time score 0-0. 7.00 p. m. Kick Off.

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18 Feb 2019 20:25:51
60 minutes now played Liverpool u23s on top still 0-0 though, TV Cameras have highlighted Curtis Jones taking the lace out of his right boot on 55 mins, and he is still playing without any lace in his right boot 65 mins played, has not even gone to touchline to change boot how his boot has not flown off God knows, Adam Lewis just been substituted.

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18 Feb 2019 21:03:16
Game Over Liverpool u23s deservedly won 1-0, In two days Paul Glatzel will be 18 he scored the winner on 75 mins nice early birthday present. Curtis Jones went off before he scored the winner still minus his right boot lace, another funny thing from game when Glatzel scored the only goal scoreboard showed 2-0 to Liverpool, it was nearly right as Mcauley hit post for Liverpool in stoppage time. Scoreboard still showed 2-0 after game finished. Well Done Boys, won at a canter, could of played without a goalie tonight, Neil Mellor just said our goalie never made a save all night and he is right. The game was shown live on LFC Channel.

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18 Feb 2019 21:41:49
Why do you copy everything off Indykalia news on Twitter and post it up here?

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18 Feb 2019 21:52:20
23 for the season now for Glatzel.

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18 Feb 2019 22:12:05
Hearno12,You are barking up the wrong tree old boy, i have never had an account on twitter, facebook, ETC, and never will.
If you read my last post above i stated i watched it live on the LFC Channel. what's indykalia news when its about?

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18 Feb 2019 16:34:21
: Roberto Firmino never trained at Melwood today he was absent with a virus, very doubtful for tomorrow, Lovren never trained today either.

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18 Feb 2019 16:40:12
Jesus Christ we certainly have been on the wrong end of injuries and illnesses this season .

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18 Feb 2019 17:08:49
On the plus side Thomas Muller is banned for both legs after getting a Two Match Ban for a Dangerous Tackle against Ajax in the Group Stages.

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18 Feb 2019 17:04:31
Please play Shaqiri or Kieta as his replacement rather than Sturridge or Origi! Salah can play up top and at least one of those two will put a decent shift in.

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18 Feb 2019 17:29:00
Coman is a doubt for Bayern having limped off at the weekend but I don't think its definite.

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18 Feb 2019 17:46:27
I’d take a 1-0 win at this stage not sure about everyone else.

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18 Feb 2019 18:01:28
Origi for me. Shaqiri always better from the bench but has been poor all round last lot of games. I know Origi missed a good chance vs West Ham but at least he got in the position to have the chance. He still has pace which can really help.

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18 Feb 2019 18:12:21
How can Keita play in place of Bobby? That make very little sense if any. Also, Salah based on the B'moth game, is better coming from the wide areas as well which is where Bayern is weak when their fullbacks bomb on. With Salah playing from wide, Alaba will think twice before bombing on at will.

As for who btw Origi and Studge should play, it's a toss up, IMO. Will have to deffer to Klopp on this one.

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18 Feb 2019 18:42:11
Err think you will have to defer to JK regardless, unless your his assistant!

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18 Feb 2019 19:04:10
Get them well for Sunday 😡.

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18 Feb 2019 19:40:36
Spot on, Ron. If Bobbie were not to be fit for one game, I'd rather it be for the Bayern game. We need him for OT.

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18 Feb 2019 20:00:06
I agree, Sunday is more important for so many reasons.

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18 Feb 2019 21:30:06
Hi RedWolf, Just gave ye post a thumbs up, why because i agree with you.

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18 feb 2019 22:26:19
drogie,
no, no, no. the next game is the most important, which happens to be bayern munich.
looking forward to tomorrow’s game, we as fans have got a big part to play, we need to bring our best singing voices and as many flags and banners as we can, also need to get in a bit earlier to get the atmosphere going while the players are preparing on the pitch, a win tomorrow could have a big knock on effect for the manu game.
cmon redmen.

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GREAT TEAMS PART 3: The 1927 New York Yankees Baseball Team

18 Feb 2019 09:23:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, GREAT TEAMS PART 3: The 1927 New York Yankees Baseball Team

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18 Feb 2019 09:46:54
I know nothing about baseball, but I've been hearing that the current Red Sox team is the greatest in history. How do the two compare?

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18 Feb 2019 10:26:55
I'm a HUGE Red Sox fan and can't stand the Yankees, so for me to say this is very painful, but the '27 Yankess are generally considered the greatest of all time. I'd say that this past season for the red sox was the greatest of this century so far though.

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18 Feb 2019 16:43:09
Such an interesting read about something I know nothing about. Great work!

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18 Feb 2019 19:41:00
The Evil Empire.

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18 Feb 2019 21:24:20
Can't stand the Yankees. Red Sox (and Boston Celtics) supporter all the way.

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Review Of The Day 18th February 2019

18 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th February 2019

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18 Feb 2019 07:47:29
I pat my ketchup bottle while the cap still on, and it still works, and without having it splattering everywhere. Not sure how this can be used as a metaphor though. Help me on this. ;)

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{Ed001's Note - sounds more like a euphemism.}

18 Feb 2019 08:14:18
Shame on you Cardiff! So wrong on every level.

Ramos that is a stat that you should not be proud of. Shocking really when you think about it.
Neymar HAHA!

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18 Feb 2019 08:38:50
Neymar :D Im glad that the people who actually understands football sees what kind of footballer he is!

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18 Feb 2019 08:42:03
Morning Ed, hilarious about Neymar, it just goes to show how much he's disliked, the little turd. I'd of paid to of seen his face when he saw the votes, he wouldn't of liked that! Cheers mate, hope you have a good Monday.

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{Ed001's Note - I am surprised though, I thought Brazilians loved him. Must have finally realised he is not all that. The poll was only done because some magazine or other in Brazil said Neymar was the best since Pele. Clearly no one agrees!}

18 Feb 2019 09:01:26
Cheers. This issue between Cardiff and Nantes is utterly disrespectful and indicative to what the modern game has become. I understand with it being such a unique situation, and the money involved it was always going to result in legality issues but all parties should have made it priority to keep everything behind closed doors. Very distasteful.

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{Ed001's Note - it is not really all that unique, this kind of thing happens all the time, with career-ending injuries etc. The difference is that it is usually just mostly covered by insurance and the buying club pay what is left without all this carry on. Cardiff just messed up because they are unprofessional and did not make all the arrangements themselves to ensure they would be covered.}

18 Feb 2019 09:13:21
Hi Ed, are Cardiff not trying to sue the football agent McKay, as he admitted deliberately inflating the Sala transfer value? Either way, it's embarrassing and this type of stuff should be done in private out of respect.

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{Ed001's Note - it is one of the things they are looking into. It is disgusting. You agreed a deal, things go wrong through no one's fault, tough you just have to get on with it. What they should be doing is looking into why the club itself did not organise everything involved. They messed up and now they are trying to wheedle out of a legally agreed deal because of it.}

18 Feb 2019 09:15:09
Joke of the day that one mate, best since Pele my ar*e.

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18 Feb 2019 09:43:05
I meant it was unique in terms of death, treating the situation with a bit of respect and behind closed doors. Injuries wouldn't be as sensitive an issue.

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18 Feb 2019 10:08:51
I thought Cardiff did provide him option of public flight but Willie Mackey refused. I actually believe Cardiff are within their rights to hold off. Interim report should be due in a few days and that could prove easily that someone needs to be held accountable,! It should be kept behind closed doors but if Cardiff feel he was put on an unsafe plane being flown by an unlicensed pilot in rough weather i think they deserve to at least hear the report.

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18 Feb 2019 10:16:39
i was surprised to hear about fodens comments. Firstly he's barely got a look in all season so his contribution has been fairly limited. secondly city actually havant won anything yet this season. maybe if they had won a cup and were in a couple of finals they would have a great chance but there is a long way to go and could still end the season with nothing other than a comeback against newport to show for it.

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18 Feb 2019 10:44:34
anyone who says neymar is the best since pele has clearly never seen R9. and that man didn't even reach his potential surely with all that injuries and partying.

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18 Feb 2019 11:51:42
So pleased by that survey result - Neymar doesn’t deserved to be ranked anywhere near the likes of Ronaldo, Ronaldinho or Rivaldo etc.

Any player that ‘feels pain more than others’ to justify play acting to get others booked or sent off deserves less than zero respect.

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18 Feb 2019 12:03:11
They despicable Neil Warnock and the detestable Willie McKay appear to have, ahem, a ‘special relationship’. There are numerous examples in the public domain - you just have to Google their names together - but just consider this one. In December 2017, Leeds United terminated the contracts of twin 21 year old brothers Jack and Paul McKay ‘by mutual consent’. They had made 1 senior appearance for Leeds between them. In January 2018 they were both signed by Cardiff City on two and a half year deals. Neither has made a senior appearance for Cardiff and Jack is currently on loan to Chesterfield in the National League and Paul is on loan to Morecambe in League Two. You all know, of course, that Warnock is the manager of Cardiff but did I mention that the twins’ father is Willie McKay? Still think that Cardiff will sue McKay for his behavior in the Emiliano Sala transfer?

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{Ed001's Note - they do have a special relationship but this is not about Colin mate. This is over his head.}

18 Feb 2019 12:19:46
Cardiff - very distasteful.

Ramos - should have been the 50th or 100th red card he received in his career.

Top 10 players in Brazil's history - not only did this poll backfire on Neymar (if it was ever to glorify him) but it gave me hope that the people in Brazil do know who their premium players are. but i also suppose a significant number of the pollsters are older and have seen or at least heard about some of these legends.

On a slightly different note, so many great Brazilian teams filled with great players have won much more than Neymar has (and he's not some poor sod who happened to be born in an era where Brazil has a lack of quality) . So there really is not reason to name him as one of the greats. If he was truly as special as some claims (and Neymar himself probably believes), then go on and do a Maradona. Win something single handedly and perhaps a conversation about his greatness can be discussed.

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18 Feb 2019 12:45:47
Exactly ed this is strictly business at this stage and it's clear already from Cardiffs actions and public statements over the last couple of weeks that they're going to push all the blame on mackay. What I also found odd wasn't it the same day they located the plane that Nantes demanded payment, maybe coincidence but they might have been fearing the found wreckage giving Cardiff a case against them. Its a messy situation.

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{Ed001's Note - it was because Cardiff were meant to make an initial payment immediately but never did, so they sent the reminder that it was overdue.}

18 Feb 2019 14:17:06
Interesting Ed, on the top Brazilians. Any surprise on the rankings for you Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - I personally would not have had Rivaldo up so high.}

18 Feb 2019 15:01:59
Honestly I was surprised to see Roberto Carlos so low, and to not see Dunga at all.

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18 Feb 2019 18:13:38
Neymar being the best since Pele, does not even pass the laugh test.

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18 Feb 2019 22:04:18
I'm assuming the Brazilian poll refers to players who are not Pele's contemporaries, and strictly after his retirement, otherwise there's be easily 5-6 players from that 1970 team that deserve a place in the top 10. But I am surprised that Junior, the left back / midfielder from the 80's is not on that list. Far more deserving than a Bebeto or Careca on that list.

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17 Feb 2019 22:16:05
I see a lot of posters asking what cb we are targeting and tbh not even klopp knows right now.

Imo we should look at nico elvedi, the swiss cb at bmg. Bmg have the third best defensive record and he's comfortable as a ball player, he's covered lb and rb this season also and has over 150 appearences at the age of 21.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained about the CBs we know the club has looked at.}

17 Feb 2019 23:59:50
Yes i have seen that so thanks ed, just a bit of fantasy football fromme.

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17 Feb 2019 21:57:45
Hi Eds any idea what Klopp's plans are for youngsters Lewis, Camacho and Brewster next season? Hope they are given a chance to step up Lewis to be Robbo's back up, Camacho to be Mane's and Brewster for Firmino/ Salah up front. Anyone who's watched Lewis a lot this season think he's ready?

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{Ed002's Note - I would think Brewster will have the chance to fill any gaps left by Sturridge, Origo and Solanke - but they were only ever on the very fringes. Lewis is really well respected but if Liverpool look to another LB then he will need to think about his future. Camacho I sort of feel may be the one to never get a real run at it and may not make it at Liverpool. With the approach tending to buying success, it rather puts the youngsters in a tough place.}

18 Feb 2019 01:52:28
There are only so many juniors you can integrate into a squad competing for top honours - my picks would be

- Sturridge to be replaced by a top competitive forward, and Origi to be sold, with Brewster to step up (1 junior)
- Lallana to move on and Harry Wilson to step up (2 juniors) . Ox will be a big boost coming back and we still have Hendo, Gini, Fabinho, Milner, Shaqiri and Keita so I think we’re good in midfield
- Replace either Lovren or Matip with a top CB to compete with VVD and Gomez. Nat Philips can play in cup games and be our crisis fallback option (three juniors) .
- We need to top fullback to back up able to play both sides of the pitch to compete with Trent and Robbo and be able to push them for a starting position. Move on Moreno to create the space and then let Adam Lewis step up as backup for non critical games (four juniors) .

That would leave us recruiting
1 forward (for Sturridge)
1 CB (for Matip or Lovren)
1 fullback (for Moreno)

And letting 4 juniors fill the gaps left by Origi, Lallana, Clyne and an extra CB, with none of them needing to be thrown in the deep end because we’ll have senior players backing up every position barring an injury crisis.

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18 Feb 2019 04:08:41
I would add 1 midfielder to replace Milner.

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18 Feb 2019 07:28:40
I don’t think any of them would be happy to replace Origi Lallana or Clyne seen as they have about 5 starts between them for us in the last 2 years.

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18 Feb 2019 18:32:53
KK, I am sure they would play more if good enough.

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18 Feb 2019 19:06:38
I think we could bed in Grujic and at least one of Camacho, Lewis, Hoever (if ready) or Brewster.

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17 Feb 2019 21:31:46
I see taiwo awoniyi scored again tonight we have some interesting options for the future going to b hard too get them all in the squad but a lovely headache, rhion brewster, bobby Duncan, Paul glatzel, Harry Wilson, awoniyi, Camacho, I wonder how many of these players will seize there opportunity in the future, I like the look of awoniyi big strong good with his head, fast, could b a great option of the bench .

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17 Feb 2019 22:03:28
I think Awoniyi should look elsewhere to further his blossoming career cos I just don't see him in our future plans.

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17 Feb 2019 22:19:39
Not many mate, wasnt too long ago we was waiting on stewart, ibe, rossiter, sinclair etc. Imo Wilson looks the most likely as he's proved it at a mans level. Time will tell.

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17 Feb 2019 22:27:18
Even harder to get Taiwo a work permit 😄.

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18 Feb 2019 08:26:34
I like Wilson but he looks a bit lightweight and also not quick enough for a winger, would probably like too see him more central with his shooting an passing ability, be good too send him on loan too a premier league club see how he stands up at the highest level for a season, saying all that I would have him in the squad now ahead of lallana but he needs too play consistently.

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17 Feb 2019 20:58:28
No wonder man city doing so well in the Cup competitions they have been very lucky with all the draws so far: Carabao Cup semi final two legs Burton Albion could of been spurs/ chelsea. FA Cup fifth round Newport County, League Two Team the lowest placed team left in last 16 of FA Cup: European Cup last 16 Schalke currently 14th placed in the Bundesliga with a MINUS goal difference of 7, only 18 teams in Bundesliga. My own view is its going to get tougher for man city as the season goes on in all competitions.
Lets hope we draw Man City in the Euro Cup last Eight again, that will be a great straightener. Bring it on.

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17 Feb 2019 22:02:24
True, they can't avoid all the top teams forever, it'll get much more difficult for them as the time passes then they'll be under more pressure, we'll be laughing, I'm sure of it.

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17 Feb 2019 22:05:10
James Bond, there's a reason why Cup competitions can and should NEVER be used to judge a team over a season even tho a glorious CL campaign can override that. Just ask LFC circa 2005.

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18 Feb 2019 12:24:13
So when Gerard Houlliers team won a "CUP TREBLE" in 2001, FA Cup Winners, League Cup Winners, UEFA Cup Winners it was not a successful season, think you will find that carraghers team mates who played in the above sides will say he is talking through his "HAT ", same as you if you don't think it was an EXCELLENT Season.

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18 Feb 2019 18:19:31
007, we were not very good in the league that season (even tho we qualified for yhe CL) cos we focused more on the Cup competitions. If that is your standard then sure, we had an excellent season. Cos that is NOT the standard used to judge a team over a period of time in terms of consistency, the fact that we won three Cup comps. does not change this standard. It's that simple. Peace!

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18 Feb 2019 19:42:39
So ye don't like LFC winning trophies, you are the only purported LFC Fan i know who does not like the Reds winning trophies, you stick to ye Standards, i will like all LFC Fans stick to winning trophies. Every Competition LFC enter the supporters want them to win it FULL STOP.

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17 Feb 2019 20:43:07
What's happening with masterson and philips this season are both injured if so how unlucky for them with our recent injuries could of been a chance to step up.

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17 Feb 2019 19:15:02
"{Ed001's Note - offload Matip or Lovren and bring in someone to fight for the place with Gomez and VVD. }"

Totally agree there ed. And this for me should be the logic with our main recruitment.
We have to sign players good enough to fight for and earn a starting position in the team, even if it means displacing the current starters, as long as it improves the side.

The mentality of a mere "back up" happy to play second fiddle and the equally annoying "where's he going to play" is why when VVD, Mane, Salah, Firmino and Robertson don't play there's suddenly a 80% drop in quality. Differential between "first" and "second, third" picks is Pacific ocean-ic.

I get that we probably may not get exact VVD quality, but you got get something not too far off, 40% at most.
Any higher and you in trouble.
Presently only Gomez comes satisfactorily near VVD. Rest are a long, LONG way off. As is Alisson/ Mignolet.

So I don't get why when we linked with a forward of "top" quality questions arise about where he'll play/ if he'll be happy to sit on the bench.
IF i. e that "top" quality is Werner/ Bailey/ Dybala/ Pepe/ Son, why couldn't he outperform any of Mane/ Firmino/ Salah and earn a starting place? Why couldn't they prove good enough and better for the team?

Sure, don't fix what's not broken. But you surely can (try to) improve it?
Or are we saying there's players guaranteed starting spots and that Klopp's ideas are cast in stone with no flexibility?

There's been occasions when Salah/ Mane/ Firmino weren't playing well and may of been benched, but for want of quality to replace them.

It's common knowledge amongst us that team is looking for a CB, rightly so. Many regard VVD and Gomez as top rank. I've seen many on here punting Koulibaly, De Ligt and Aldeweireld. All very good CBs. But so far no one questioning where, if signed, any of those 3 would play seeing as we already got 2 "class" CBs.

They probably figure that it's Gomez who'd make way/ be rotated more often.
Well I figure as well that if a top rank forward were to be signed, they may prove better than/ outperform the currents, or they may not. Or maybe all four could prove deserving of a start and Klopp may make a tweak or two.
Keep in mind as well that none of Mane, Firmino, Salah are "proper" centre forwards.
Origi and Sturridge could be deemed to be.

Sturridge was done by injuries. Fit and in his element, there's no better centre forward in the division. He WOULD have been a starter in this team. He may have been our own version of Aguero.
Kills me how unfortunate he's been with the injuries.

Many remember that season for Suarez brilliance, rightly. But for me Studge really stood out. Man was unreal. First time got a proper shot at his preferred role and troubled little by injuries, boy did he shine, and shine brightly he did.

What I'd give to have THAAT Sturridge in this team.

I think Klopp will look at a more traditional (starting) forward and then promote Brewster. Sturridge and Origi will leave.
Bobby will assume a sorta 2nd forward, perhaps more play making role. Salah I see reverting to the wide right forward he played mainly in maiden season. Mane will keep left.
Of course there be fluidity and interchanging.

Don't see any attacking mid. Depending on opposition and desired tactics, Fabinho, Keita and Chamberlain will probably be our regular midfield, especially against non-top 6 defensive fodder.
Wijnaldum/ Henderson may come in against the big boys.

Once Keita is fully up to speed and Ox back for and goring, I think we set. Mind you, there's Trent as well, who's seen in mid long term.

My worry is at both full backs. Moreno needs no discussing. Yeah sure Fabinho can "fill in" at RB. But is that enough? We need our best DM/ HM in his best position. In any case, would he be as good? As per ed01 suggestion with VVD and Gomez, I think we should go and buy a RB and LB who'll fight Trent and Robbo for a starting position.
How would that be bad for the team?

Sorry for the long post fellas.

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17 Feb 2019 21:03:16
You lost me at "Pacific Ocean-ic"

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17 Feb 2019 21:19:17
I am hoping we can see adam Lewis Step up as the back up left back as he is well thought of at the club!

I agree on right back but I think we will get someone who can cover cb as well. Trent is obviously first choice but it Clyne will leave so have a space for someone to come in especially given the changes required for cb.

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17 Feb 2019 21:57:53
Camacho will be good cover for right back, can see him breaking through next season.

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18 Feb 2019 01:10:15
I don't think the issue people have is playing a CB, it's more who can we get and afford who is of the quality you speak off. As Ed002 has pointed out, we cannot go and spend vast amounts again without selling.

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18 Feb 2019 08:29:03
Thing is Jonesred Camacho is a midfielder-winger, we don't want another Alberto Moreno on the right side do we .

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