Liverpool Banter Archive November 17 2017

 

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17 Nov 2017 22:42:58
Just heard Matip is out tomorrow.

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{Ed002's Note - Dancing?}

17 Nov 2017 23:13:45
that's GREAT yarmouth gomez can take his place.


17 Nov 2017 23:21:13
Abductor problem.


18 Nov 2017 00:02:41
And in steps Ragnar Klavan :O.


18 Nov 2017 00:02:41
And in steps Ragnar Klavan :O.


18 Nov 2017 03:28:39
Another Lovren blunder incoming.


18 Nov 2017 10:35:54
Let's get behind them guys. Gomez and lovren to strike up a fantastic partnership. Lovren has had a bit of time away from the spotlight. Maybe he's sorted his head out.


18 Nov 2017 10:40:12
aoe, have you seen the way he marked his opponent during a corner recently in an international game?


18 Nov 2017 13:08:02
Nope I was busy hiding away from the world after Denmark came to town- if you made note of it, I'd imagine it's another dreadful piece of defending from him. In error I meant to leave a question mark about their partnership. Personally I'm just desperate for the lad to get through this dodgy period until klopp finds an answer (which I still believe isn't necessarily a new centre half) . I believe the back line needs far more protection and I'm still hoping masterson gets a call up, even though he might not be ready. I heard a rumour that O'Neil might be calling him up for Ireland soon enough. (If he actually stays in the job)


17 Nov 2017 18:34:59
Thanks for the latest sharkopod Ed002, the music at the end put me to sleep for 4 hours this afternoon though, you putting in this hypnotic music to put us all to sleep so you can have some peace on here? Lol.

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{Ed002's Note - Seems like a plan. }

17 Nov 2017 19:45:08
Ed002, always love the music and segues that you put in your podcasts. Can you give us an Ed002 playlist?


{Ed002's Note - Obviously it is easy to tell you the three finest albums ever recorded are:
1. Country Joe and The Fish - Electric Music for the Mind and Body
2. Grateful Dead - American Beauty
3. Kaleidoscope - Side Trips

And the five finest cuts:
1. Caretakers of Deception - X+Y=13
2. Third Bardo - Five Years Ahead of My Time
3. The Uncalled For - Do Like Me
4. The Gants - I Wonder
5. The Misunderstood - I can Take You To The Sun

18 Nov 2017 11:21:58
Was you at Woodstock Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - No I am a little bit too young for that, and from the West Coast.}

18 Nov 2017 11:51:38
Jesus eds2 think your choice of music in some cases is worst than your choice of a football club. You must be on meths mate šŸ˜±.


18 Nov 2017 11:53:18
ed002 have you ever heard forever changes by love? that album my friend is a masterpiece.


{Ed002's Note - I know it very well and saw Arthur Lee play a few times.}

18 Nov 2017 14:54:00
Iā€™m going to give those a listen Ed.


17 Nov 2017 15:20:21
ED001, I'm curious to your thoughts on this coutinho matter. I know you don't want him to play again, but what I'm curious about is selling price. Barcelona have no doubt unsettled the player. He's not playing well. If we leave him out until January, or the end of the month as Ed002 has said, does his value drop? Do we let it go down just for the sake of being rid of him, or do we stand firm and risk him staying? I want Barcelona to pay the maximum after this whole saga, but as much as I don't want coutinho to play for us again, I don't want the guy to have to waste half a season on the bench.

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{Ed001's Note - his value will go down either way. He is playing terribly so it makes no difference to his transfer value. However it does make a lot of difference to the team and, right now, we look better without him. The most important thing is to finish as high up the league as possible.}

17 Nov 2017 15:36:44
Very interesting eds.


{Ed001's Note - thank you.}

17 Nov 2017 14:09:02
Ok Red men simple question:
Couthino to start YES or NO
I say NO.

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17 Nov 2017 14:52:00
Never again.


17 Nov 2017 15:09:16
What would be the point of playing a player that has no desire to be here or would make the required effort to play for the team and not just himself?

Sell and move on.


17 Nov 2017 15:10:08
No. I wouldn't even let him into Melwood, let alone Anfield.


17 Nov 2017 15:38:02
Nope should never wear the Liverpool shirt again!


17 Nov 2017 15:50:53
after watching solanke the other night I would rather see him get some game time than coutinho.


17 Nov 2017 15:53:56
Yes, heā€™s a Liverpool player until we sell him, the team is bigger than any individual and if he can help us win a game he should start. Donā€™t cut off your nose to spite your face.


17 Nov 2017 16:05:27
I'd bring him on as a sub all day long. Still a quality player who can be a match winner when needed.

Hope we stick with the 4-4-2 tommorrow.

My Team Choice:

Ward
Gomez Matip Klavan Moreno
Ox Wijndaldum Can Mane
Firmino Salah

Subs: Karius, Milner, Lovren, Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge, Solanke

Some nice options to change the game there I think.

I toyed with the idea of putting Gomez in CB but I'm not sure about Arnold defensively at RB. And I think right now it is about being as solid as possible.

Lovren's break needs to continue.


17 Nov 2017 16:26:29
Same team that beat West ham for me.


17 Nov 2017 16:45:25
Smeg head how is it cutting of your nose to spite your face! He is faking injury and not interested in playing for us on heā€™s current form we have better players to start ahead of him. Simples.


17 Nov 2017 17:00:40
Longthing76, at home against a team that has trouble scoring goals and is probably going to sit back and defend I would play him in midfield. We are going to need guile and creativity to break them down and he has the ability to open up defences. Ultimately what matters most tomorrow is 3 points not your precious feelings because you feel slighted by a footballer.


{Ed001's Note - and the last thing needed is some little tit who will lose the ball constantly in our own half because he is feeling slighted that the team that has paid him millions to play for them haven't allowed him to go. The guy is a liability right now and you just want to make snide comments at other fans for not wanting him in the team. Sad that you would rather support someone who is dumping on you from a great height than a fellow fan who would prefer players to make an effort.}

17 Nov 2017 17:13:37
Smeg this is nothing to do with my feelings what so ever. Football is a team game everyone has to be playing for each other otherwise you wonā€™t win. And he is NOT a team player at the minute. Open your eyes.


17 Nov 2017 17:30:22
Well said 76.It's always been Liverpool's ethos that we win, loose and play as a team. Not 10 but all 11 player's and at the moment he couldn't give a toss about the team so yes he should be kept well away.


17 Nov 2017 17:38:49
Well as we all know footballers are transient employees, I guess I just donā€™t get upset by these things. Football fans get so upset when a good player doesnā€™t show enough loyalty but have no problem running down a player who wants to play for the club but they deem not good enough, loyalty should go both ways. Ultimately my point was that Coutinho should play if he can help the team win, which I think he can tomorrow.


17 Nov 2017 18:06:42
I agree with Smeg Head. I don't understand where this hate came all of the sudden? 2/ 3 weeks ago it was all fine?


17 Nov 2017 18:39:09
It's not about hate. It's about getting on with thing's and fighting for your team.


17 Nov 2017 18:47:12
It's World Cup year he should be out of the squad until after the Jan window. Not played and not sold. When the prospect of moving is gone and the World Cup round the corner and he is not featuring we would get a stellar few months of couts or he won't make wc squad and probably miss his dream move.


17 Nov 2017 18:53:49
Yes for me, if his commitment is right. If not then he shouldn't be anywhere near the squad but then that applies to all players.


17 Nov 2017 18:31:19
No you should have to prove yourself to play for Liverpool or any team for that matter, I have no issue in players wishing to leave but if your going to fake injury or be a knob trying to get that move then you shouldnā€™t be in the squad, why should more loyal and players putting a proper shift in be picking up his slack from lack of effort? Sets a terrible precedent that does. Let him rot till his attitude changes or heā€™s sold.


17 Nov 2017 19:01:42
Whilst I accept that he was faking his injury back in August I believe that this latest injury was genuine, as evidenced by him playing no part in Brazilā€™s game against Japan. The other stick being used to beat him with is that heā€™s is not playing well, although with 4 goals in 9 games you could argue heā€™s doing ok, itā€™s just another example of fans turning on a player who is supposedly playing badly.


17 Nov 2017 19:16:42
Am not upset and I donā€™t hate him. I just have an opinion šŸ‘šŸ».


17 Nov 2017 19:38:24
Agree Rover it should/ does apply to ALL player's mate.


17 Nov 2017 22:20:54
I never want to see him in a Liverpool shirt again. Faking injury, sulking, no effort etc etc is not acceptable from a professional footballer getting paid millions of pounds a year. Good riddance I say.


17 Nov 2017 23:09:10
Never change a team that's doing well just to please others, including him again would only disrupt things. Right now is the perfect time to start giving young solanke a 15-20 run every game to gain more and more experience he has a lot and I mean a lot of potential. He's carrying on very similar to Suarez when he wanted to go and disrupted the team until he got his way so in my opinion leave him on the bench and only draft him in if it's a last resort as we are playing a hell of a lot better without him and when you look at the table we are only 2 pts from 2nd place and city WILL drop points this season. They are far from unbeatable especially under the overrated Gaurdiola. And with hopefully 1 new CB coming in at January things can only improve from here on as long as the players and staff stay focused on the job they are payed to do and that is not entertain couts to boost his ego any further. If he wants out let whatever club put their money where their mouth is and take him and I bet it will turn out not too well for him in 24mths time. Just wait and see.


18 Nov 2017 09:39:26
Why are we thrashing him so much.
Letā€™s judge him in what he does on the pitch from now on.
The club are still paying his wages and in my view he will still have a major part to play for us this season.


18 Nov 2017 10:46:52
I could be wrong but hadn't things gone bad for coutinho in Italy and we rejuvenated his career? He wasn't living up to the potential or something along those lines. Regardless, I find his attitude disappointing- I understand his frustrations but his disinterest in the team once he hasn't gotten his way could be something Barcelona would probably want to pay attention to. For me the argument that we should use him because he has ability to break down stubborn defences isn't reason to bring in such a disruptive force. I think we should be concentrating on how to beat these types of teams without him sooner, rather than later.


{Ed001's Note - well said.}

17 Nov 2017 13:09:11
Looking forward to getting back to prem games this weekend, tough game against Southampton but think weā€™ll turn them over what do you guys predict for this one? also is mane in the squad or will it be late fitness fest? cheers anyway Edā€™s onwards and upwards for the festive period #kloppgetbetter#.

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17 Nov 2017 13:42:52
Just a scouting session isnā€™t it? šŸ˜‰.


17 Nov 2017 13:42:55
Late fitness fest won't do him any good! He'll be knackered by Saturday afternoon! šŸ˜‰

In all seriousness, i thought he wasn't available. Some people seem to think he is though. Fingers crossed they are correct.


17 Nov 2017 13:47:58
4-1 To LFC.


17 Nov 2017 13:58:09
not overly optimistic on post international games, hope the lads prove me wrong;)


17 Nov 2017 14:32:29
Southampton won't be an easy 3 points, they have a very good record at Anfield, so we need to take this game very seriously, but now we have Salah, this man seems to score in every game .


17 Nov 2017 21:11:37
Mane is fine.


 
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