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24 Apr 2017 15:06:40
Hi eds, just wondering if Real did come in for coutinho (which I doubt) would we look at taking Isco in the deal as a possibility or is that just my wishful thinking?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed001's Note - nope.}

1.) 24 Apr 2017 16:06:48
We have little chance of attracting players of his calibre Henlow let alone stumping up his wages.

2.) 24 Apr 2017 19:36:22
Calibre? He is pretty much at the same level as the likes of Tadic or even Khazri!

He is not this world class talent that the media would have you believe. Good player, but very over rated and certainly not too good for us!

3.) 25 Apr 2017 00:54:49
The first thing Couts. would be taught in Madrid is if there is contact on you in the box you go down. Make the ref make a decision

Not like on Sunday.

Its not proper but that's modern football.



30 Nov 2016 20:40:45
Hi eds, keep hearing these Christian Pulisic rumours saying we are going to bid for him in January, surely he isn't coming to us as it just seems unrealistic to me. He's playing at Dortmund regularly but with Reus coming back from injury he might not play as much so why would he come to Liverpool and be in exactly the same position when Mane comes back from Africa in January and courinho back Dec/ Jan?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware there is no intention of making a bid for him in January and there would be almost zero chance of Dortmund accepting a bid for him anyway.}

1.) 30 Nov 2016 21:24:30
Thanks ed001, couldn't see Dortmund selling a young player with a lot of potential either.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

2.) 30 Nov 2016 23:06:17
Surely they won't do a gotze again and let him leave on a free next summer.

3.) 30 Nov 2016 23:56:44
He's not coming here as we already have players and youngsters like Ojo and Woodburn to step in if need be. Don't know what people want, really. On one hand, we want kids to be given a chance and on the other, spend 20m on another kid. Make up your minds!

4.) 30 Nov 2016 23:06:17
Surely they won't do a gotze again and let him leave on a free next summer.

5.) 01 Dec 2016 20:03:47
Umm Goetze didn't leave on a free. However Gotze didn't want to extend his contract so Dortmund were forced to sell him but not before squeezing a record price out of Bayern.

6.) 01 Dec 2016 23:48:25
Wrong, Phil and Reus as none of what you say is true, I'm sorry. Bayern triggered Gotze's release clause shortly before the CL final between BVB and Bayern and Gotze chose to leave, something the Dortmund fans and even Klopp, found to take. That's why he left Dortmund, and not due to contract negotiations or to him leaving on a free. Ed can correct me if I'm wrong.

{Ed002's Note - Bayern paid €37M for Goetze and Dortmund took him back for €22.25M.}



16 Nov 2016 16:46:52
Hi eds,

Also just heard Gerrard is in advanced talks with Liverpool over a coaching role with the academy, not saying it's true but this is a rumour site after all.

Henlow red.

Henlow red

1.) 16 Nov 2016 22:34:45
Wow, has it been in the press at all? always wondered why people put news like this on this site, it may come as a surprise to these people, that if you have access to this site then you can pretty much guarantee that they have checked pretty well all the football news sites as well, apart from the radio news, Sky news etc.

2.) 17 Nov 2016 13:33:43
Maybe Henlow red heard this off a source close to the club or someone they know, who provides good information. or maybe we should flood your inbox so you can filter out what's been reported on. I hate moaning posts (as I write one) but your post John B has no point to it whatsoever.

3.) 17 Nov 2016 16:19:38
John, people come to this site to read a variety of rumors. I don't see the problem in posting a rumor? Is it too much for your eyes to just scroll past it?

{Ed025's Note - your spot on Tj..

4.) 17 Nov 2016 17:31:12
Its not just posting the rumour to share it, but to enable us the ability to discuss it too. If we don't post about stuff that's all over the press, how can we collectively rip it to pieces for being rubbish?

5.) 17 Nov 2016 19:09:02
Philosophical discussion aside (! ), BBC reporting he's in line as the new MK Dons manager (possibly player manager) . Interesting.

6.) 17 Nov 2016 19:53:10
I might be wrong Zeddicus but I doubt that Gerrard has all the badges and licences required to be a manager yet, like many internationals.
There was an article the other day proposing that Lampard and Gerrard should be fast tracked through their qualifications given their knowledhe of the game.
Eds, any idea on the coaching qualifications Gerrard holds?

{Ed001's Note - I think he has the B license, if I remember correctly.}

7.) 17 Nov 2016 23:00:32
I'm sure I read that he is very close to or has just finished the UEFA A, which means he can coach in the second tier and below.

8.) 21 Nov 2016 10:14:24
200k a week in china, Gerrard cares more about his own pocket.



09 Oct 2016 13:57:52
Hi eds, just seen all this talk of coutinho and people saying he's world class. The reality is that the kid is a one in six player and isn't consistent enough to be called world class. I'm not saying get rid but what I am thinking is if an offer of 50 million came in surely Liverpool would find it hard to turn down for a player that performs once a month at the most. Don't get me wrong he's a great footballer and would rather him stay but he's not consistent enough at the moment.

Henlow red

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what a "one in six" player is and the term "world class" is subjective and is way over used.}

1.) 09 Oct 2016 15:46:25
Does 50m 80m 100m even mean anything to you? As a fan I don't want to see our club selling one of our best player at any price.

2.) 09 Oct 2016 17:02:44
We will never be able to buy ready made superstars. We will only have top level players by developing them. However, we are able to pay superstar wages so we should do everything we can to hold onto the ones we are lucky/ clever enough to have.

3.) 09 Oct 2016 19:20:11
@Henlow Red

Why do fans like you obsess over the money? What good is a £50m sale to you, surely you want to keep all of our best players? The FIFA generation I think it's been called.

4.) 09 Oct 2016 20:15:51
Remember when we got £65 million or whatever it was for Suarez, and he was a 6 month player with bans each year, done really well with that money didn't we, imagine Suarez working under Klopp with his work rate etc, now that would be frightening - a lot more exciting than £65 million in the bank to spend.

5.) 09 Oct 2016 20:58:17
He's not world class . But some of his goals are world class and he's are best player . 50 mil are you having a joke.

6.) 09 Oct 2016 21:11:33
Nobody wants to see Coutinho leave, unfortunately though not many football club owners are devoted fans and if they want to accept a bid for him then not a lot we can do.

7.) 09 Oct 2016 21:32:25
Some crazy people on here.

Football is a business

Clubs have. more pulling power than Liverpool. it's called money, which in this case, backs up the case to sell at the right price, as we need money.

Continue isn't indispensable.

8.) 09 Oct 2016 21:34:01
What do you all define as World Class? In my book World Class is a league of players who are one of the very very best in their position in the entire world.
Ronaldo, Messi, Bale, Lahm, Neuer, Lewandowski are all World Class.
Is Coutinho quite in their bracket? No. Is he on par with the likes of Rakitic, Hazard and David Silva in the bracket behind? Yes.
His ability to play quick and intricate passes to unlock a defense is right up there.
Everybody is a Genius. But If You Judge a Fish by Its Ability to Climb a Tree, It Will Live Its Whole Life Believing that It is Stupid.
Coutinho is a different kind of fish / player to most of those listed. His skill is in linking play between midfield and attack, then just helping out with a couple of goals. Does he do that? Yes, and he is one of the best at it, and in the Spanish league could do some serious damage.

Love nor money can replace a player who fits into a system like that, but if he wants to go there is little a club can do these days. Life goes on, let's just wait and see.

9.) 09 Oct 2016 21:46:15
He is world class.

10.) 09 Oct 2016 22:33:05
You're missing the point Davey.

What I'm saying is WHY do fans want him to go? Why are fans getting turned on by the thought of a £50m sale? What's exciting about the club having more millions in the pocket?

Are you accountants or football fans? I'd rather have great players doing well for the team and the club being successful than having more money in the bank.

Then again, I actually love the football side of the game; I swear most people these days are more bothered about the transfer windows for gods sake.

11.) 10 Oct 2016 00:32:41
Why complicate things with fish AA?
As for Codhinio, he's not the Sole of the club, and we won't flounder without him but he is well worth his plaice in the team and is integrated into the grouper well. Eel skate around opposition defenders and contribute with assists and goals. He may not swim in the same shoal as Messi etc, but he's no minnow.

12.) 10 Oct 2016 07:44:30
To be honest I woulndn't see Bale as world class, I think couts is better.

13.) 10 Oct 2016 08:13:32
I'm not sure anyone actually wants Coutinho to leave Puzzled Red but if the player wants to go - and he has indicated this to some of his international team mates according to the Eds - then it's up to club to get the best deal possible for them!

14.) 10 Oct 2016 09:35:31
Hats off to AndyM.

15.) 10 Oct 2016 09:51:06
If you want to build a great team you need great players - Coutinho is a great player. The only thing you do by selling those sorts of players is weaken your team - we've done it far too many times in the past, I sincerley hope we don't start doing it again in future.

Obviously if Coutinho really wants to move on then we shouldn't stand in his way but, ultimately, it would be better if he stays. The lad is quality and it wouldn't exactly be easy to replace him. All these talks of Ojo replacing him are a tad premature in my opinion. The lad has a lot of potential - but he has barely had a season under his belt of Premier League football, surely a little early to be touting him as a Coutinho replacement? I mean look at Ibe - he was thought to be destined for big things but it didn't work out.

It would be better to hang onto Coutinho for at least another season (i. e. 17/ 18) and ideally two more. We'd know if Ojo was the real deal by then and Coutinho would still be young enough to join, and have success with, a team he's always dreamed of playing for (which is Barcelona if my memory of what he discussed with his Brazilian teammates is accurate) .

{Ed002's Note - You are forgetting that this is the additional season that he is staying without Champions League football.}

16.) 10 Oct 2016 10:44:43
I understand Ed that this is an extra season he wasn't sure about taking on - I remember you alluding to this earlier this year - if we were to perform well in the league this season (top 4) then I hope it would convince him to stay on longer. Not saying he will, or i'd hold any grudge against him if he didn't, just I'd prefer him to stay rather than us sell. Of course if he's already determined to leave this season regardless of how we perform then best of luck to the lad. Do you think he is destined to leave at the end of the season irrespective of how we perform Ed?

{Ed002's Note - You are all trying to look to deeply in to this. The situation is as I have explained.}

17.) 10 Oct 2016 14:30:57
Ed has basically said he's unlikely to move in January and at the end of the season he'll have a decision to make. No yes or no just that he will have offers on the table one of which he will consider will still be Liverpool and as others have said if we had a very good season and I would say title challenge rather than top 4 he may well see a settled Liverpool team as the best option.

18.) 10 Oct 2016 15:14:37
I think it's pretty simple, he's not indispensable, but he's clearly one of our best players and has enormous talent and ability to go much much further in the future. Why sell him now if he's currently helping improve the team and very likely going to continue to get better?

As someone above said, have no idea why some people as so keen for the club to sell players for big money and create a hole in the team we just have to spend a fortune to fill again or risk sliding backwards (and there's always the risk of the newcomer not settling quickly or adjusting to our style of play at all) . I agree it seems to be the FIFA playstation generation, which has no bearing on reality.

Best thing Klopp did this last window was only selling players we weren't actually using, and keeping the best.

19.) 10 Oct 2016 20:30:00

I'm just a realist, and I can imagine the player is also.

He will go, end of.

Accept it and enjoy the money as the grass appears greener on the other side for most players, not that it's always the case mind.

This is a Suarez scenario, OK, not as vocal as him, not yet anyway.

20.) 10 Oct 2016 21:08:20
If Coutinho wants to go then good luck to him. He's been a great player for us, given it 100% on the pitch, never once caused us any embarrassment in or off the pitch.

I don't think he'll go in the summer, why would you leave the champions?

21.) 10 Oct 2016 21:13:34
Daveybootle how can you say he will go? - we don't know that do we? do you? it's pure speculation at this point and far too early to talk about it to be fair, I mean we can have this conversation about the majority of our players can't we. end of the day, if he goes good luck to him, but at the moment he's a liverpool player and goingg to be until atleast summer. I'm not in any way 'in the know' but I wouldn't be surprised if we got top4 he stayed with us.

22.) 11 Oct 2016 04:26:11
We really ought to keep our best players. Only sell if a player no longer has the desire to play for our club or if our manager thinks that he is no longer in his plan. We're trying to build a successful team under Klopp, so I do not see the logic of selling our top players and buying someone new, and we need time to train and develop them all over again. We want progress, and only with progress, we can keep our best players and attract other good players to join us.

23.) 11 Oct 2016 08:13:35
You're welcome muscatred.

24.) 12 Oct 2016 21:45:55
50m after the last transfer window. you having a laugh we got about 32m for benteke and pogba went for what. if this is a business that would not make any sense.



30 Aug 2016 20:36:17
Hi eds thanks for all the hard work to keep us in the know, just wondered if the Sakho loan to Sunderland I've read about is true, if it is I would be surprised as I really rate the guy, I mean yeah he doesn't look the most comfortable of players on the ball but he's not a bad defender in my opinion.

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed002's Note - He has rejected offers from WBA and Stoke and Liverpool are desparate to move him on.}

1.) 30 Aug 2016 21:22:51
are they looking for a loan genuinely or to get rid permanently?

{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

2.) 31 Aug 2016 03:13:36
klopp wants him gone, like it or not that's the situation.

3.) 31 Aug 2016 08:16:32
Won't that leave us short of defenders? Tell me if I am missing something, but what's the plan if Clyne gets injured on international duty? I can't see any immediate cover - Gomez is injured, as is Klavan, don't say Moreno! . I feel that we are leaving ourselves dangerously light, except in midfield that is!

{Ed002's Note - Take it up with Klipperty.}

4.) 31 Aug 2016 08:19:34
Henlow, have you been paying any attention at all?
It's nothing to do with his ability as a defender and his physical appearance or style of movement has always been irrelevant.

5.) 31 Aug 2016 09:04:58
What has Klavan's injury got to do with having cover for Clyne? If Clyne gets injured we have Randall, if Randall goes on loan we have Alexander-Arnold, who is a great talent. So, no worries.

6.) 31 Aug 2016 09:45:08
Alexander-Arnold, Ilori and Lucas are still with us. So to Randell if no loan move. We must also have players in the U23. Arnold looked great in preseason tbh, like to see him get a game.

7.) 31 Aug 2016 10:34:16
Jurgen Meister. The answer is nothing really, but I presumed Klavan was more a utility man should we have any gaps in the defence with injury. But we still don't have any experienced cover - Ilori is bound to be off in this window, which leaves Alexander-A and Randall. Not players I'd expect to be brought in against big teams .




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24 Jun 2017 20:14:05
Hi Eds, thanks for all the work you out in, especially this time of year. I just wondered if we do sign Kieta where would that leave Grujic, would it effect him directly in terms of pecking order or are they different type of midfield players?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed001's Note - we won't be signing him unless something drastically changes.}



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16 Nov 2016 15:21:46
Hi eds hope you're well,

Just a question out of curiosity, with Gerrard coming back to England to live do you think he will train with Liverpool until he finds a suitable club or considers other options? Also if he did come and train would it have a good or bad effect on the squad, as I remember you said he was disruptive at times in his later years as a player so was just wondering if Klopp would think it was wise to have him on the training ground just before the busy festive fixture list.

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed001's Note - no idea, it really depends on what offers come his way.}

1.) 16 Nov 2016 16:42:27
Ive read that he has spoken to us about a roll within the club. Not sure I want him back in any capacity tbh.

2.) 16 Nov 2016 17:22:04
His time is gone as a player.

3.) 16 Nov 2016 18:24:13
I read somewhere that it is a role with the youth team he's been talking about. Might it, on the one hand be good for the youngsters to be working with Gerrard with regard confidence and learning from a player who has done so well during his career, (as he learns the ropes of coaching) but on the other hand his stature and reputation make it difficult for the other coaches to exert their influence and authority? Suppose it depends on if Stevie can accept being on the bottom rung and having to work and earn his way up the coaching ladder.
He can come help me with my u14s team, 😁 that'll box his head in!

4.) 16 Nov 2016 18:28:39
If he does have a role with the club it should be very removed from the first team. I wouldn't be opposed to him doing some sessions with the under 18s midfielders and then shadowing some of Klopps sessions. A bit like what Henry was meant to be doing at Arsenal before he chose to be a dreadful pundit instead.

5.) 17 Nov 2016 00:03:39
Nah he should be out there bringing all the prospects to the club. Can you imagine a 15yr old sitting in his house with his mates and his bird expecting someone from the club to call and gerrard knocks on the door😎.

6.) 17 Nov 2016 08:56:26
I worry about his influence on the team dynamics if he comes back to play a role with the 1st team. Just don't think its a good idea tbh, he will be fondly remembered let's leave it at that. If he goes away and does his badges then comes in to learn from inglethorpe them fine.



15 Nov 2016 15:15:16
Hi eds,

Just seeing this rubbish about Sturridge going to West Ham or Stoke in January, with Mane missing up to a month over that period surely that would be ridiculous to let sturridge in the January window?

Your thoughts eds?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}



04 Nov 2016 08:00:22
Hi eds, can you really see coutinho leaving in January or even this summer? I can't see him getting a game ahead of MSN at Barcelona and I can't see him getting in the front 3 at RM, then there's midfield, he would have to compete with Kroos Isco and moderic at real and busquets iniesta rakatic at Barca, I know his form has been more consistent recently but he has been guilty of having a blinder and then be quiet for a month sometimes in the past. Just my thoughts or maybe I'm wrong, what's your view on it eds?

Many thanks

Henlow red.

Henlow red

{Ed002's Note - He won't be leaving in January and the summer is a long way off. He has made it clear that he wants to be playing at the highest level - that has been explained.}

1.) 04 Nov 2016 09:48:42
Long term iniesta replacement maybe.

2.) 04 Nov 2016 11:00:08
Barcelona will have to sell someone big to bring in Coutinho. Real is facing a transfer ban. PSG could come in. Pastore and Lucas Moura could be on their way out may be?

3.) 04 Nov 2016 14:12:15
I don't see why any footballer would want to go to PSG they're in a league of their own at the minute hard to see that changing within the next few years. He's almost certainly going to end up at Barcelona but hopefully we get a couple more years out of him.

4.) 04 Nov 2016 14:47:12
Barca can't afford him.




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08 Mar 2017 21:46:35
All this about Lahm when Paulo Maldini was the greatest left back of all time and he is in fact right footed and he wasn't even mentioned.

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22 Dec 2016 19:33:16
We should buy wilshere too so he's got someone to talk to on the treatment table.

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30 Nov 2016 21:24:30
Thanks ed001, couldn't see Dortmund selling a young player with a lot of potential either.

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06 Nov 2015 23:28:03
I had the same from him, my family know him and his dad terry quite well and said he's a sound lad but whenever I've met him (not through family) he's been an ignorant bell end.

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12 Jul 2015 06:13:06
To be fair although sterling is clearly a knob head, drinking straight after a game does make sense, it's the furthest night away from their next game and they have the most time to recover, I'm not saying players should drink but if they're going to shouldn't it be well before the next game??

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{Ed001's Note - no that is simply not true. It is the worst time to drink as it is when the body needs to be recovering from the match. One of the first things you are coached, or should be, it certainly is in athletics, is that you need to steer clear of alcohol the night after competing to allow your body to recover. Probably explains why are athletes have been so much more successful in recent years than our football teams. They are treated as professionals in athletics, with every little thing looked at that can improve their performance level, even to the point that they are taught the correct way to wash their hands to ensure they are properly clean to cut back on colds.}




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