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08 Aug 2017 17:49:06
ESPN claim Liverpool have agreed a deal in principle with Barcelona for Coutinho, worth up to around 100m pounds. Some claim it is nonsense. What do you think eds?

Robin in the Hood

{Ed001's Note - nothing has been agreed......yet.}


1.) 08 Aug 2017 18:27:28
I don't think anything will be agreed at all.


2.) 08 Aug 2017 18:30:49
It was £81.6m that was in the article, with 'bonuses' (whatever they mean by that? ) that could bring it up to £108.8m. Probably best to not think about it, though I would hope we hold out for more.


3.) 08 Aug 2017 18:32:11
Hi Ed001 first time poster, I was wondering what implications this may have on Klopp? He has incessantly told the press that Couts was going nowhere, this feels like the board have gone against his wishes by negotiating a deal with Barcelona. Or is it all just a ploy to make us believe he has put up a fight? Thanks again!

{Ed001's Note - like I keep saying, the club and Klopp will only sell him if Couts makes it clear he wants to go. In which case, Klopp will understand. I wish people would stop stressing, Klopp is the reason the transfer window has been a mess, so I don't think he is in any position to make ultimatums.}


4.) 08 Aug 2017 18:32:45
Hi Eds n Reds

Ed001.do you expect a deal to be done now?

atlfc70.

{Ed001's Note - right now? No. Maybe in the next few days. I really don't know, I don't know how desperately Coutinho wants the move this summer. This is when we need Lucas at the club, he would have made sure the lad stayed at least one more season! Right now the club are trying to persuade him to stay.}


5.) 08 Aug 2017 18:38:27
Hi Ed, first time post - I hear Lanzini is the most realistically priced replacement if Little Phil does go - Thoughts? Who would you hope we would consider?

{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any interest from us and he is likely to sign a new contract with the Hammers I believe.}


6.) 08 Aug 2017 18:41:57
Cheers Ed001

One final question. do you believe he will go in the coming days. hope he stays but I think he'll go unfortunately

atlfc70.

{Ed001's Note - I hope he stays but my head says he will go. Hopefully that has put the jinx on it!}


7.) 08 Aug 2017 18:49:45
Can't Firminio do the the role of Lucas for whatever it's work to keep him if it is an option?

I don't think Lucas being here would make any difference Ed.

When Barcelona come calling it is difficult to say no.

The lure is more to be able to play alongside Messi more than Barca.

Cheers.


8.) 08 Aug 2017 19:00:46
Cheers Ed001 for your replies and opinion. really hope he stays

atlfc70.

{Ed001's Note - so do I, but it is up to him and I will wish him well if he does go. He will be taking a step down in my eyes though, there is nothing that can compare to being at Liverpool.}


9.) 08 Aug 2017 19:34:06
The news is false. Sky Sports have said that Barcelona officials never met with LFC officials and our stance has not changed. Guillem Balaghe via twitter, also said that LFC's stance has not changed and we met with no one.

On the contrary, German sports paper Bild and French media have said that Barcelona officials are in Dortmund to thrash out a deal for Dembele instead. LFC and Klopp are still standing firm and are trying to convince Couts to stay (frankly, Lucas should have been kept to help with this process, really) and we are STILL not selling.

{Ed002's Note - That is incorrect. Just to clarify, there has been one formal offer rejected about 10 days ago. There have since been discussions of a more general basis (e.g. would a player being part of the deal be viable), and Barcelona looking to return witha formal proposal during this week. That is it, and it has not changed (to the best of my knowledge) in the past couple of days. But it will.}


10.) 08 Aug 2017 19:43:33
Well said Ed, on all accounts.


11.) 08 Aug 2017 20:18:47
It's a strange position to be in. In the past having an extra 100+ million to spend could have been incredible. As it stands we clearly have funds available to purchase a CB, there seems to be healthy competition between competent players for the striker role and hence selling would only leave us looking to improve on Coutinho, which is near impossible.

What we have in our favour though is his mentality, attitude and proffesionalism, couple this with Klopp and the clubs stance and we seem safe. Unless something drastic happens I can see us keeping him for the season.

Doesn't stop me nervously checking every source possible every 5 minutes however.


12.) 08 Aug 2017 20:21:06
It's up to him? How is it up to him and was not up to ? or VVD. Klopp may have crapped the bed thus far in this window but their foes seem to be a little inconsistency here.


13.) 08 Aug 2017 20:27:16
Barca have £200mil banked (while carrying large debt according to previous media)
I would want a majority of that for Coutinho!


14.) 08 Aug 2017 20:29:43
Hope he stays and will be a backward step. but to be honest while i think he is out best player perhaps, he is made to sound like he is unstoppable, but in reality he is only unplayable perhaps 1 in 10 games, and yes he scores and breaks teams with some great long strikes, but man. it won't be the end of the world.

I am still very happy we got Klopp, but agree with Ed01 (and normally do) that he has made a mess of this transfer window. but all that aside if couts leaves we will have a lot of money available to entice other very good players (maybe not as good) to the club.

the wheel keeps turning.


15.) 08 Aug 2017 20:47:02
But the hamsters dead?


16.) 08 Aug 2017 22:21:30
The problem is not so much whether he leaves LFC or not, players come and go, but the real problem is the time he'd be leaving in the transfer window. If he was to leave next week I can't see us being able to secure a top quality replacement during this window, especially with how slow we seem to be getting transfers done. At best, I see us panic buying someone easy to get.

I love Phil and he's been great to the club but I couldn't help but feel a little 'betrayed' if he left this late in the window. I know that's just how it's playing out with the Neymar sale being late too but oh well.


17.) 09 Aug 2017 00:25:44
Wake up and realise couts is going to Barcelona. Why on earth would we be talking to them if we had no intention of selling him?
It's not the end of the world (although it has been predicted to end on either August 21st or September 23rd) . Players come and players go, the club still remains.


18.) 09 Aug 2017 02:58:14
Nice one ed001! A step down, like it. Nothing like Liverpool. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he next hears jerry and the pacemakers. Y. N. W. A. Tears I reckon.


19.) 09 Aug 2017 12:57:47
Good post Gareth. I agree that Phil only hook zbout 4/ 5 games by the scruff of the neck, luckily one nor two of those were at the end of season.

Everyone talks of Phil as z midfielder, but he rarely plays there. He is a number ten. And as a forward, who on most team sheets plays up front on left, allowing him to cut in on that right foot of his. Exactly neymars position.

There is no doubt in my mind that we can find ourselves a new number ten who gets more than 14 goals and 7 assists.


 

 

04 Jun 2017 12:22:18
Well now the Echo are reporting that reports last night of VVD agreeing to City were very premature.

And just to add on that, who actually reported that? The Mirror? They're not even reliable!

Robin in the Hood

1.) 04 Jun 2017 12:33:12
I wouldn't be surprised if a supposed agreement with City fell through because VVD was like, 'No, please Soton! I don't wanna go to City! Let me go to Liverpool! '


2.) 04 Jun 2017 12:34:38
Maybe more suited to the eds but open to anyone.
Do you think there is an element of panicking from all clubs.

A scramble to get deals done. Huge amounts of tv money. I get this is now how the market looks in terms of money but a player can have 1 good season and see his value rocket, do u think clubs launch money at a name rather than having a detailed look and spending the required time to make sure the player suits.

Are teams buying best available and not best foe the system.

{Ed025's Note - i think they are lee, clubs are certainly offering over the odds for players because they dont want to lose out...and aint them scumbag low life agents just loving it?..


3.) 04 Jun 2017 13:08:07
I'm sure they are mate.


4.) 04 Jun 2017 13:30:53
I think this may be true, pay the fee now, clubs accept cos they have time to replace, wait any longer and they may be forced to pay even more or go for a second of third choice down the line and pay an equally large sum, just for someone else who wasn't first choice.


5.) 04 Jun 2017 14:16:30
Agents do this all the time in order to essential set the starting price on a player before the club (in this case Southampton) can do it for them. It typically provoked a bidding war. You'll notice that nobody bit. That's very telling.


 

 

02 Jun 2017 14:54:29
Hi Eds

Re: Sessegnon, you guys have labelled the pursuit failure down to Fulham's bad blood, while others have suggested that it's because Liverpool didn't offer first team opportunities straight away like Spurs did.

Is the truth just a bit of both?

Cheers.

Robin in the Hood

{Ed001's Note - yes mate. We could have potentially had a deal done before Spurs came in for him anyway.}


1.) 02 Jun 2017 15:17:35
Another Dellle Ali mistake?


2.) 02 Jun 2017 15:33:53
100% Nicky. This kid is the real deal. It's so obvious!


3.) 02 Jun 2017 15:43:06
So, it sounds like that Fulham were reluctantly cooperating with Liverpool, until Spurs came in and Fulham said 'oh, thank god you're here, can you please buy him instead? '

{Ed001's Note - no, that was the point. If we had been able to get Fulham to reluctantly cooperate with us we would have had the deal wrapped up before Spurs came in.}


4.) 02 Jun 2017 15:51:49
It's not a mistake, it's a matter of Fulham not wanting to cooperate with us. At least MK Dons were cooperating with Liverpool.

Thanks for the info ed. I suppose you won't hear in the press that Fulham refuse to deal with us.

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea what the press will have to say, sorry. I have not read the press in years.}


5.) 02 Jun 2017 16:27:20
Possibly down to an inexperienced chief exec new to football?

{Ed001's Note - what has he to do with it? If anything having him is an advantage as he is untarnished by the mess before.}


6.) 02 Jun 2017 16:21:18
Can hardly blame Fulham for their stance. We behaved appallingly.


7.) 02 Jun 2017 16:30:07
It's not over until it's over, the lad is a Liverpool supporter. Must be something we can do to sign him.


8.) 02 Jun 2017 16:45:44
If not Danny rose finished article and would suit us?


9.) 02 Jun 2017 16:45:34
Fair do's ed so the offer to sessegnon was on klopp then?

{Ed001's Note - no, it was on the previous regime that tapped up Dempsey and then never made any attempt to smooth things over afterwards.}


10.) 02 Jun 2017 21:09:59
Ah that explains it, thanks for the info ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


 

 

02 Jun 2017 14:21:57
I think FSG will find a way to make something work with most our transfers this summer, they realise the importance of this window, and they won't want to let Liverpool miss out on all their top targets because of stuffing around with wages.

I understand the frustration with stuffing around over wages, but FSG are trying to be careful. That's all. Teams like City don't have to be as cautious when figures like 180k for a CB are in play.

Robin in the Hood

1.) 02 Jun 2017 14:40:13
I tend to agree, we have to be much more sensible when it comes to the wages we offer. I can't remember the figures exactly but don't clubs aim to run at around/ under 60% of wages:turnover? When FSG first took over we were roughly 10% over that threshold which is seen as unsustainable, hence the big earners being moved on.

What can't be happening though, which has been hinted at, is offering/ suggesting a player will be on a certain wage and changing the structure later on.

With the extra revenue you'd have to imagine the club can expand the wage structure we currently have, its just by how much and the consequences of doing so. £180k a week for VVD would have Firmino, Coutinho, Lallana and others agents wanting more.


2.) 02 Jun 2017 14:52:49
Yeah, I don't agree with the way FSG have changed their offer to VVD. Things like that are an example of how Liverpool can be such pricks in the negotiating room. I understand the financial reasons behind it, but the matter of principle for me is greater than the consideration of the financial jigsaw, and when you make that offer, don't rescind it and return with a worse offer.


 

 

 

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22 Aug 2017 12:48:45
This Coutinho lad seems to really struggle with thinking for himself. Was pressured to sign the new contract. was pressured to submit the TR and make himself unavailable. was pressured by Bobby F to bleach his teeth. the list goes on!

Robin in the Hood

1.) 22 Aug 2017 12:55:38
It's all nonsense. He's a big boy, he makes his own decisions. I can't help but wonder how ugly things really got. Oh well. I'm usually all for power for the players, but recently I've started to see the consequences of such a standpoint.


2.) 22 Aug 2017 12:56:22
Maybe this episode will make him grow a spine.


3.) 22 Aug 2017 13:14:49
That bleach his teeth part killed me 😂😂😂😂.


4.) 22 Aug 2017 13:17:00
If we get him on the pitch in the middle off the park watch us get 30 percent more out of salah an mane honestly the signs in pre season were all there.


5.) 22 Aug 2017 14:00:08
I think we would get more out of Salah, Mane and Firmino with him on the pitch because of his passing.


6.) 22 Aug 2017 14:12:23
Salah's success depends on Coutinho picking his runs with sublime passing! I can't see Salah scoring for fun without Coutinho!


7.) 22 Aug 2017 15:09:28
Everyone will benefit from phil on pitch, also salah done well wid big target that was dzeko, I like solanke in there he has everythin possibly the english diego costa without baggage he really excites me the potential of solanke.


 

 

20 Aug 2017 16:54:37
Apparently coutinho has gone on strike now. Any confirmation eds? So disrespectful if true.

Robin in the Hood

{Ed002's Note - Coutinho wants to leave and has not made himself available for selection nor has he trained. Large numbers don't seem to recpgnise this and simply want to whine about the contract.}


1.) 20 Aug 2017 17:19:21
Guess it's similar to another situation at Southampton. so no room for complaint really.

My only concern is that we don't let him join Barcelona on the cheap, as the offers so far have definitely been on the cheap (in context of a crazy market) and the probability that we won't bring in a suitable replacement, which I've no confidence that we will bring someone in, given previous form and the names being bandied about (Lanzini, Oxlade, Mahrez and Laxalt simply aren't good enough IMHO) .


2.) 20 Aug 2017 17:23:33
The whole Coutinho thing remind me of the Torres saga few years back, the club was in denial that the player wanted to leave for a whole month, and ended up selling him in the last 48 hours of the window then waste most of the money on panic buy. Yes get top dollar for him but give yourself enough time to find a replacement and we do need a replacement, we have very thin squad. And "no" our youth are not ready to take on the responsibility of champions league, its not fair on them and will knock their confident right down if they been thrown into a struggling side.


3.) 20 Aug 2017 17:25:20
So his "back injury" was just bs then? We all knew it 😂.


4.) 20 Aug 2017 17:34:40
How can he get away with not training? Shouldn't he be fined wages? Or is this whole "my back hurts" excuse sufficient to keep being paid? May try that one on my employer, and see how far it gets me.

This whole thing stinks of the Suarez saga. And if I learned anything from that, its get rid of the disrespectful player; not fit to wear the shirt.

That being said, Barcelona need to meet a fair price or he can stay in the reserves.


5.) 20 Aug 2017 17:38:04
"Want to whine about the contract? ". simple fact is he HAS a contract, a multi million pound a year contract. it doesn't matter how long he's wanted to leave or if he's unhappy at the moment, he's contracted to the club. is paid by the club. So should get his arse out on the pitch. End of!


6.) 20 Aug 2017 17:40:11
Couts wants to go. We will sell. So I can't understand why Barcelona won't pay up?


7.) 20 Aug 2017 17:43:23
And he's paid £200,000 a week. He should not have signed the contract for 5 years and took the extra cash if he thought Barcelona would come calling. Im losing patience for these players who earn in a day what most earn in a year!


8.) 20 Aug 2017 17:53:59
If this is true, then it's massively disappointing. Expected far far more from him.


9.) 20 Aug 2017 17:58:06
Acered- for precisely that reason. The player wants to join them so they, and the player, can use other means to come to a lower deal.


10.) 20 Aug 2017 18:09:50
RTFP statto, heck the 4th thread on the first page on the rumours side near the end a ED1 says Coutinho didn’t expect Barcelona to come calling for him so soon or if at all. can’t fault him for signing a new contract not expecting his dream team to come calling for his services.


11.) 20 Aug 2017 18:18:55
He signed it, he can deal with it.


12.) 20 Aug 2017 18:22:51
Red_Phil why do you think Coutinho signed a new contract? More money. He didn't think Barcelona would come in for him? Clearly he was wrong, he now has to live with that decision. Lots of us have dreams that don't come true, most of us just move on and get on with things, he is a paid employee with a job to do, there is no defending his actions here.


13.) 20 Aug 2017 18:54:51
End of the day he's playing for a club where he adored. The main man. Getting paid on par with all the other world's best number 10s. Plays at anfield every other week. Plays for klopp. Graces the same pitch as some of the greats like the king. Get over yourself. Enjoy what you have and what you chose, yourself. No-one held a gun to your head.


14.) 20 Aug 2017 19:36:41
Smeg head (great name btw) of course more money, he probably deserved it too being one of our best players.
Again he didn’t expect his dream to come true so he knuckled down, extended his contract and kept wowing the fans who adore him and even those who don’t.

Also footballing contracts are a lot different to your every day jobs. Did you sign a 5 year deal? No you signed what could be a lifetime deal and you don’t have a say in your yearly pay rises but you can leave at any time, Plus the money can’t even be compared.

People should stop bringing up "he signed a new contract" now because in his head his dream wouldn't come true (who expects dreams to come true? ) but he would rather stay with us than go to any other team.
Unfortunately it was just bad timing and his dream suddenly became something that could happen but it was now or never. Lot of pressure on the lad, take up his dream move now or live regretting it if they don’t come back for him next year or ever?


15.) 20 Aug 2017 19:47:39
Agger do understand what you're saying but let's say somebody wants to buy your house and say 150 thousand they then come back and say I'll give you 100 grand I guessing you would say no I've told you the price it's then up to them to give you the asking price if not look for another house.


16.) 21 Aug 2017 00:37:38
Don't understand all the down votes?

Also, I have nothing to do with VVD, so yeah I do have a reason to complain. VVd never went on strike, it was Southampton who barred him from training.


17.) 21 Aug 2017 06:25:33
If the transfer window passes and Coutinho hasn't got his dream move, and is still intent on refusing to train or play, then what sort actions are the club allowed to take? Do they still need to pay him despite his refusal to honour his contract? Could Coutinho go on strike indefinitely? This is all hypothetical as, in my eyes, the situation is so toxic that the lad just needs to be sold - this sort of unrest will only harm the team in the long run - but I was curious as to what legal avenues (if any) the club has when a player is seemingly breaching contract.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure that it won't come to that Seano but the could potentially take legal action against him in respect of his contract.}


 

 

19 Aug 2017 02:14:23
That Graeme Kelly guy has always maintained nothing below at least 130m up front will tempt Liverpool to sell Coutinho.

Considering that Barca's best bid thus far merely involves 80m over about 5 years, and 30m of add-ons hinged upon somewhat unrealistic conditions, you'd think there is no way that they are willing to pay 130m up front?

Robin in the Hood

1.) 19 Aug 2017 05:32:09
Barca won't pay 130 million pounds excluding add ons for Coutinho. He will stay at LFC for one more season now. Barcelona want Dembele as well and have wasted 40 million euros on Paulinho. Plus they are trying to wrap up Inigo Martinez deal as well. Did u really expect them to make a 130 million pounds offer for Coutinho considering they want to sign 3 other expensive players as well?


2.) 19 Aug 2017 06:48:57
Depends Indian, if they actually want him they will put down 130m instead of this standard dirty Barcelona tricks they do.


3.) 19 Aug 2017 07:29:03
£130 million up front?
That would recoup nicely the £70million for Keita and £60 million for VVD that we'll be splashing out shortly. 😀🙏🏻.


4.) 19 Aug 2017 07:40:35
Ruthless, this is Barcelona we are talking about. They will keep lowballing. They have this chip on their shoulder that they can f**k with any club they please by stealing their players on the cheap. Look at the situation they have put BVB in with Dembele. Barcelona are behind this ruckus 100%.
Barca won't put up 130 million up front so in short, Coutinho stays for another season. Barcelona can do one for all I care, hope they finish outside the UCL spots next season (won't be surprised with Neymar gone and all their good players ageing faster than Klopp and Conte) . I have had it with their antics. They play with other players' emotions season after season, and its the selling clubs that pay the price for this nonsense.


5.) 19 Aug 2017 08:30:23
A reported £118 million is lowballing?


6.) 19 Aug 2017 08:42:11
Buzzer is on the money. Many don' know how Barcelona operate so they keep thinking they will pay up. They won't. This is how they and RM act. They put pressure on a player via the media in a bid to have the player force the move himself. Then, they swoop in with pathetically, low-ball offers so as to force the player, to force the club to take the deal under the pathetic guise of, "you can't keep a player who wants to leave as he will down tools, not be committed" crap. Nonsensical talking point really, as far as American owners of sports teams are concerned.

Let me tell you how they operate as I'm an American. NO American owner will be dictated to by his employee esp. a player. NONE. They write the checks and they will make sure said player stays at least for that season until they say he leaves. Not before. Ask Suarez who took LFC to a tribunal in 2013 to force a move to the Gunners (of all people) and how did that end?

Now FSG has said he is not for sale and it is out of Klopp's hands now. Barcelona might as well kick rocks esp. with that pathetic offer with nonsensical add-ons in a bid to shaft us.


7.) 19 Aug 2017 09:19:46
Flash - "The breakdown of Barcelona’s bid would have seen Liverpool receive a guaranteed payment of £82.1 million with a further £36.5 million linked to the progress of Coutinho and his new club.

Of those add-ons, Barcelona wanted to pay a specific sum if Coutinho followed the likes of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in lifting the Ballon d’Or, the award for the best player in the world. They also proposed payments linked to the club winning the Champions League in future. "



So yes, they are majorly lowballing.


8.) 19 Aug 2017 09:24:29
FlashRed, 118 million is lowballing when you just got 198 million pounds up front for Neymar and the 118 million comprises of 36 million worth of add ons that will never happen. In short Barcelona want Coutinho for 82 million pounds that too paid over 5 years. I'd sent the same disgraceful fax back to Barca's head office but spattered with dog poo. If you bow down to the spoilt elite, you will forever be on your knees and at their mercy.
If you cannot sense Barca's desperation, then you are clueless. They know their golden era is come to an end, their la masia academy is failing to churn out quality players due to years of neglect and Real keep pounding on the misery for them by signing the best young Spanish talent for peanuts.
If I was John Henry, I'd call them up right now and tell them to deposit 150 million pounds at LFC's doorstep the way PSG did or just disappear into mediocrity. Every LFC fan should feel disrespected for the way Barcelona are going about the Coutinho saga.
And yes, I hope BVB make Barcelona squirm over Dembele as well. They thoroughly deserve it.


9.) 19 Aug 2017 11:32:40
IB, you are in midseason form, my friend. Great post! I would send them their fax back with "DON't COME BACK" written in dog poop on it as these guys must think we are as stupid as they think we are.

Flash, you are falling for the "follow the money" gambit that Barcelona is trying to pull. Allow me to explain. Their offer effectively says that they want to pay 82m cash for Cou (the 5 year payment structure for this, is a joke in itself) and that is it. Barcelona will not be winning the CL anytime soon/ ever, Cou will not score 30 goals (has never cracked even 15 at LFC in a season) and him winning the Balon D'Or, as it stands right now, will never happen as those better than Cou are still yet to win it.

So in the end, we will not be seeing the add-ons anytime soon. If that is what you like then thank heavens, you don't run LFC cos if you did, we would be in the Conference right now.


 

 

16 Aug 2017 10:07:02
Yo ed001

You said that Matip was only brought in as a stop gap. Why didn't they just go and search for a permanent centre back instead?

Robin in the Hood

{Ed001's Note - because there are only so many players you can buy at a time with limits on the budget. We are not Man City and can't just go and buy a whole new team each season.}


1.) 16 Aug 2017 10:47:17
Eds I know you don't like talking money but wasn't last season's net spend quite low. Surely we had enough in the coffers to buy more than stop just gaps in Matip (free) and Klavan.

{Ed001's Note - Matip was not free, you still have to pay a large signing fee and other costs for a 'free' transfer. Same with Manninger. Plus we signed Mane, Wijnaldum and Karius. There was quite a bit of spending.}


2.) 16 Aug 2017 10:53:49
Makes me wonder where exactly is this TV money a no CL revenue vanishing if you need to keep your net spend 0. Are we yet again in the same situation that we couldn't buy without offloading?

{Ed001's Note - what? This makes no sense, no one has said anything about net spend being 0. Stop making stuff up.}


3.) 16 Aug 2017 11:21:36
you can't just keep adding players and not selling any the wage bill would bankrupt the club, I think under klopp the squad quality has improved with out him spending loads of extra cash and his net spend his pretty low is a good thing.


4.) 16 Aug 2017 11:56:57
Thanks ed. So shall we expect either Gomez or a new defender take Matip's place next season?

{Ed001's Note - should do yes.}


5.) 16 Aug 2017 12:08:04
Ed001, excuse me if you find yourself repeating yourself I'm just really curious about the matip stop gap scenario.

If he was just a stop gap, does that mean Klopp sees the ideal pairing as lovren + new signing/ Gomez? Or does he feel both players need replacing in terms of first choice position? I understand Klaven is back up so that's different to stop gap.

Thanks for any info you provide, really interesting to read as always.

{Ed001's Note - both need replacing, Lovren was never his man.}


6.) 16 Aug 2017 12:26:10
Ed001 I'm curious, if Klopp doesn't rate Lovren, why on earth did he get a new contract with a pay rise?

{Ed001's Note - to preserve value.}


 

 

15 Aug 2017 12:20:33
Reporter asks Klopp about his first time (in the UCL), Klopp responds by sheepish about disclosing details about losing his virginity.

So much for Klopp's clown persona wearing off.

Robin in the Hood

1.) 15 Aug 2017 15:57:05
Haven't read or seen the interview but my goodness, it sounds cringeworthy.


2.) 15 Aug 2017 16:16:24
Wow, talk about totally misrepresenting a quote, maybe you should properly explain what was said because it actually was quite funny.


 

 

 

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17 Aug 2017 07:56:35
Did I read him incorrectly or did ed002 say the Sessegnon no deal had nothing to do with club relations?

Robin in the Hood

{Ed001's Note - Sessegnon was not coming anyway as he had decided to stay with Fulham. I don't know what Ed002 said, but that would be correct that Sessegnon was not happening either way, even if we had been on great terms as the lad himself was not interested.}


 

 

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14 Aug 2017 12:40:31
Ed002 there are that many coutinho posts that I wouldn't know where to start. I've been reading the posts anyway and don't remember anything about FSG going back on their word and selling him?

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14 Aug 2017 12:29:25
leave this window or in a year ed? The Echo seem so adamant that LFC will keep him.

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14 Aug 2017 09:44:27
I get that exact same feeling ed, there's something about Eriksen which always makes me feel somewhat unconvinced about him. I always get this feeling that there is an extra yard he fails to make up.

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{Ed001's Note - he just isn't quite top class, certainly good enough for the Prem and better than say Siggurdsson but he is not in that Alli and Kane bracket where you can't improve on them realistically.}


 

 

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13 Aug 2017 15:36:03
Okay, was just curious because you usually say something like "don't hold your breath"

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22 Aug 2017 12:41:21
Kia Joorabchian looks like a grubby see-you-en-tee.

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22 Aug 2017 10:04:03
Maybe it's because Coutinho can be trusted to eventually get back on with it and apply himself, whereas Sakho can't be trusted.

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22 Aug 2017 09:50:45
Will Hughes, the player everyone has been calling a 'great young talent' for the last 6 years!

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22 Aug 2017 09:49:42
Woops, I meant to say available, not unavailable!

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22 Aug 2017 09:48:56
He seems like the kind of guy who could get led around easily by such people, ed002 already suggested that he could have been pressured into signing the contract in January.

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