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19 Jun 2018 17:29:43
Hi Ed001. Hope your well mate.

I think it was Sunday you said in reply to a post you had been away for a couple of days and needed to get up to date on any potential change/ progress on any of our transfer targets.

Are you aware of anything that you could share with us please, any snippet of anything mate please as we are living in scraps thanks to the World Cup😅😅.

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{Ed001's Note - no mate not got anything new.}

19 Jun 2018 19:16:55
No probs mate.

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19 Jun 2018 21:59:04
Gossip junky! 😂.

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19 Jun 2018 16:42:51
Another day, another goalkeeper linked to us, it was reported lfc have done some background checks on Nick Pope, not sure what 'background checks' really means, has he got a police record or something? It's probably a load of piffle as per usual.

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19 Jun 2018 20:00:54
Yes he needed a DBS check to make sure he isn’t a murderer or drug dealer! What a he hell ar background checks - our media really is a joke!

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19 Jun 2018 22:16:10
Could background checks not be checking his injury record, and I could be wrong but I think one of the Ed’s mentioned at some point that Klopp likes to do personality checks before signing a player. I don’t know if it’s true or not but I tenner hearing a story about Klopp from his bvb days where he was tracking a player and went to watch him play, the player scored and Klopp decided to end his interest based on the players celebration as he appeared to be celebrating for himself and not the team.

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20 Jun 2018 01:27:38
Remember what JK said about Fabinho upon signing? He talked about his personality and how he trained, how he'd fit in etc. These are perhaps the kind of checks we are discussing.

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18 Jun 2018 21:52:34
Heard a little something, not sure how true it is. About how Madrid might be trying to hijack the Keita deal. Hope not like, but worrying if it's true.

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18 Jun 2018 22:00:40
Deal is already agreed. Don’t see how they can.

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18 Jun 2018 22:07:16
Keita is a Liverpool player. How can they hijack a complete deal?

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18 Jun 2018 21:59:29
What the hell are are talking about? Lol
He signed for liverpool last season. He will be wearing red in Merseyside this season coming and probably for a long time to come.

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{Ed0333's Note - Technically it’s possible so please don’t abuse ScouseDel mate. All Madrid have to do is buy out his pre-contract.

18 Jun 2018 22:21:01
I have thick skin ed's it's all good. Just passing on what I heard. Like I said, I hope there isn't anything in it but given what I was told there is something up.

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{Ed0333's Note - No worries scouse I truly hope your wrong but until a player is doing the Anfield lean no transfer is 100%.

18 Jun 2018 22:55:39
I had heard this rumour a few months ago saying Real were offering us around 75million for him making us a 15/ 20million profit on a player who didn't even kick a ball for us. Technically they could buy him from us but not till 1st of July.


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18 Jun 2018 23:01:45
Never going to happen.

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18 Jun 2018 23:29:21
Quick google led to to a story in the Express (yep! ) from mid-May about Real apparently offering us double what we paid (£96m apparently) for him before he’d kicked a ball.

No other source and nothing since, so the cynic in me says it was a story planted to try to unsettle the team/ fans before the CL final.

Hopefully that’s all there is to it.

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18 Jun 2018 23:44:26
15/ 20million profit is nothing for a player who will probably be worth at least £150 million after one season at Liverpool
Keita will be a red on 1st July

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19 Jun 2018 00:42:47
Google running a story could be a tedious link, I didn't really wanna publicy post why it could be more in it as it would get my pal into issues. But try ordering a shirt from the website with Keita on the back and see how far you can get. Like I said there could be nothing in it, could be something. Unfortunately this is why people stop posting as much now, the community on here used to be amazing and positive. Now it's all about giving people aggro when things are posted that they don't like to read. Unless it is macca or an ed. Even then some people try play them off each other. Sad to see, I'll go back to lurking. Peace.

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{Ed0333's Note - hey scousedel I still get abused and I’m an Ed lol. I’m certainly not gonna shoot the messenger thankyou for your input and let’s hope and pray Keita is in red and not white this coming season.

19 Jun 2018 05:15:17
One brilliant season with us and he is most definitely off. Not being negative but i am pretty sure if he has a great season with us and we don't win anything he would be off sooner than later. I anyhow don't see him as long term solution. he would at max have 3 seasons with us. but that is how football is these days. Same applies for Salah and mane. i think bobby might stay a while unless his talents get recognized in the footballing world. To keep these players at the club we have consistently win trophies.

I pray we get to see a season of keita ripping apart clubs for us and winning us the league. if we sign a few players this window it is very much possible. we do have quite a fantastic team as of now. A couple of additions would work wonders.

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19 Jun 2018 06:47:02
Could the Eds clarify how this could work, given the deal we already have with RBL?

Can Madrid actually ‘hijack’ the deal i. e. it’s something outside of our control that Madrid and RBL could agree?

Or is it something Madrid could only achieve by agreeing a deal with us directly to buy Keita from us on 1 July or thereafter?

Just want to understand if it’s in our control to sell Keita if we decide to (for whatever reason) or not.

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{Ed001's Note - Keita has merely signed an agreement to sign with us. There are always clauses to allow either side to cancel the deal, usually there is a price stipulated to buy it out. If Madrid want to, then they would just have to buy out the contract, similar to a normal transfer.}

19 Jun 2018 06:52:20
Akshit while I agree with the latter part of your post regarding us winning trophies to keep our best players, I think your jumping a gun a little with the keita comment, saying that one brilliant season with us and he'll leave.
And as for Bobby, I'd rather lose any player from our team, and yes I'm including Mo than lose Bobby.

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19 Jun 2018 07:43:04
'Ed0333's Note - hey scousedel I still get abused and I’m an Ed'

Poor soul, wish you'd leave him alone Ed1! ;)

Thanks for the info Scousedel it is indeed worrying if true but I don't believe it to be so personally mate.

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{Ed001's Note - he deserves it mate. And he loves it. If I didn't give him abuse he would feel lost.}

19 Jun 2018 07:44:31
Risky strategy.
If he did end up at Madrid it would not only undo all the work involved in negotiations but most worryingly, leave us scratching around for an alternative with not much time. It would be a disaster.

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19 Jun 2018 07:57:14
Hahaha love it mate!

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{Ed001's Note - the worrying thing is he always says it is what gets him up in the mornings, but he won't clarify what he means by up. It is disturbing.}

19 Jun 2018 08:12:37
Who do Madrid have to negotiate with, us or RBL?

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{Ed001's Note - us.}

19 Jun 2018 08:34:53
Shall we all panic now?
So Madrid are now buying Keita and Mane from us?
Don't worry folks, both will be wearing the red shirt next season. The press have to print SOMETHING to generate revenue.

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19 Jun 2018 08:46:32
I apologize to scousedel it probably didn't come across very well. No malice was intended. The last thing I want to do is come across as a troll.
I didn't know the deal could be scuppered.

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19 Jun 2018 09:24:51
Could this see us land Harry’s dream signing of ‘kovavic’ as part of the deal lol.

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19 Jun 2018 09:35:31
Bloody hell ed, got me slightly worried now. Not likely is it.

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{Ed001's Note - it would be a big surprise as he is a Liverpool fan that always said he wanted a move to Liverpool.}

19 Jun 2018 10:12:26
Didn’t the same happen to Mikel going to Utd Ed? All agreed but then Chelsea came and topped it?

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{Ed002's Note - No, that was fraud conducted by a Norwegian chap.}

19 Jun 2018 12:53:58
Is Keita really THAT good? Not so much the RM wanting to pay double, but is he a player who can single handed win the league? Obviously that’s impossible, but some players are the difference needed. I Don’t recall reading we were up against many to sign him.

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19 Jun 2018 13:02:21
Yeah, well, we weren't up against many when we signed: Salah, Coutinho, Suarez. Or at least we don't know much on that :D As it should be.

Obviously he is good, if we're willing to get a deal with a one-year waiting period. Looking forward to seeing him play for Liverpool.

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19 Jun 2018 13:33:02
McFurgen - depends what you need. If you have a world class attack and defense and no-one linking them together, yes he could be the player to win you the league. If you've got a decent team all round and he's your superstar player, no he's not even close to that good.

Anyway, as Ed001 has said it is us that anyone wanting him now would have to negotiate with, I think we can probably put this one safely to bed as we're not going to be accepting offers for him are we?

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19 Jun 2018 15:16:57
We have a world class attack and a decent defence, he will be key to carry the ball in midfield and add a real edge to our threat in possession.

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19 Jun 2018 16:15:49
SGRed, agreed, I think many people are unaware how much he'll bring to the team, I've watched him for two seasons straight and the lad is the real deal. Our midfield overall I wouldn't of called it weak but without Hendo I would. Next season with Keita this changes, he's going to be excellent. I see people worrying about these RM claims, I wouldn't it's not going to happen.

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19 Jun 2018 16:25:32
It's all good Mark, like I said there could be nothing in it. All I know is that no Keita shirts are allowed to be printed at all. But zero reason given, so staff are speculating hence the rumour. I hope there isn't anything in it, I don't think there is but it's just a strange one out the blue.

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19 Jun 2018 16:43:08
Has Nobby even been given a number yet? Maybe waiting on other transfers to sort that out.

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19 Jun 2018 18:13:57
His number is 8. Thanks Salah. That’s the thing I don’t know enough but he’s being banned around like the final piece of anyone’s jigsaw. Glad he’s top draw. Hope he settles in.

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19 Jun 2018 18:15:05
Players are given a holding number so they can still process orders. Fabinho was 99 when he signed so orders could go through whilst they updated everything officially. I would assume that Keita had one also but no shirts can be done at the moment. The lack of reason why is the worrying part, they aren't even being fobbed off or reassured. It's just a flat out don't do any.

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19 Jun 2018 18:19:48
Agree with Swish there. Considering the ruckus when Firmino switched from 11 to 9 when Salah arrived. For instance. Just sit tight and enjoy the summer.

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19 Jun 2018 18:40:16
Thanks Ed001. So, as unlikely as it is, RM could strike a deal with RBL (with the player's agreement of course) whereby he could never arrive with us and we couldn't do anything about it?

As you said, extremely unlikely for so many reasons, but interesting (and concerning! ) that it could happen without our consent.

Has this sort of thing happened before? Where the buying club hasn't had a say in a deal being bought out?

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{Ed002's Note - perhaps I should try to curtail this weird discussion. The Real Madrid interest was last year when Liverpool and RBL were discussing, but had not agreed, how much of an additional payment the club would need to make in order to buy the player this summer. Real Madrid considered striking a similar deal but dropped their desire to do so and Liverpool came to an agreement with RBL and coughed up the additional payment. There is no offer now, no pre-contract to buy out - nothing. Nobby will be able to join from July 1.}

19 Jun 2018 18:54:21
Thank you Ed002 :)

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19 Jun 2018 19:01:13
Appreciate that Ed002. Thanks for putting mine and others minds at ease. I will relay that to my bud who passed the rumour onto me and hopefully quell worries there.

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19 Jun 2018 20:03:27
Thanks Ed2.

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20 Jun 2018 08:41:40
Imagine how annoyed you'd be if your surname was Keita and you kept being told by the club that you couldn't put it on your shirt and you're just like. it's my name!

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19 Jun 2018 01:39:22
would this mean that Madrid would buy Keita from RB or would they buy him from us?

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18 Jun 2018 19:15:30
Hello Eds,

What is the situation with Sturridge, obviously the club would like to offload him. Is it the price tag the club want or his wages? My assumption is the club would not replace him if he left either.

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{Ed002's Note - if he were to leave he would need to be priced at a level where it would be acceptable and, critically, he would have to have realistic wage demands. I don’t see him going anywhere just for the money nor anywhere he doesn’t want to be. Injuries mean it will be hard for clubs to sign up for what might be a risk.}

18 Jun 2018 19:58:14
Both Sturridge and Markovic are in similar positions in that they are both on good wages and the club want to recoup a lot of the outlay on both. Both will need to reduce wages as well.

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19 Jun 2018 03:14:14
I read the club had set their price for Studge at £15 mil. Thinking some club's would see him as a bargain at that price in the current market.

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19 Jun 2018 05:24:01
i am very surprised with studgers injury management. he is just not able to keep fit. must be terribly frustrating for a player.
cant do much if you are not playing.

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19 Jun 2018 07:28:10
Pretty sure Markovic is only on 35k, but Studge is on around 120k, both need to go though.

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19 Jun 2018 09:31:49
$15 mil a bargain price? Th guy has played less than 50 games in 3 seasons including 5 min sub appearances. He’s on 100k a week at least. Just to get someone to take him off our hand at his wages will be a win.

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20 Jun 2018 02:16:53
While DS was desperately unhappy and wanted to leave for some time.
He now wants to stay.
I don't Know why he changed his mind but that is an ITK fact.

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18 Jun 2018 17:21:54
Any update on Brewster signing a new long term deal?

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18 Jun 2018 17:38:08
I was under the impression that Brewster had already signed a new long term contract very recently. 5 years apparently. I suspect the club has given Brewster assurances that he will get opportunities in the first team this season.

Either way, we will need to have a significant clear out of current strikers to fit him in. We already have Firmino, Origi, Sturridge, Solanke, Ings and a couple of others who can play in that position. I wonder who, and how many, will have to leave.

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18 Jun 2018 17:49:16
To clarify, the reports are that a new deal has been agreed - presumably between Brewster, his representatives and Liverpool.

It hasn't actually been signed yet, but is expected to be signed within the next few days.

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18 Jun 2018 17:56:40
Well i assume we can rule out Sturridge and Ings as they are both been told to look for new clubs.

I believe Origi will be given pre-season to push and show that he still has what it takes to be in the team, luckily for him he isn't at the world cup so can try to impress in the early stages.

Solanke is a difficult one, he showed last year he can be a decent option, however a full year on loan playing regularly could be the catalyst he needs to push on and fulfil his potential.

If Brewster has signed a long term contract then yes that does mean he will be promoted to the first team squad, pre injury he was knocking on the door to get some game time. however he still has a long way to being fully fit!

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18 Jun 2018 18:12:11
It's clear Sturridges days are numbers, likely Origi too. Wouldn't be surprised if Ings left, and if not Solanke and/ or Brewster himself could go out on loan.

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18 Jun 2018 18:39:07
Has Ings been told to look for another club?

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18 Jun 2018 16:56:00
Them Panamanians love a tackle. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of one.

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18 Jun 2018 17:53:28
On the plus side, 3 yellow cards for Belgium, there's half a chance De Buyne will be suspended for our game, lol!

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18 Jun 2018 21:32:20
Our game? When do they play Liverpool?

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{Ed025's Note - when liverpool get to a final and dont freeze.. :)

18 Jun 2018 22:36:38
At least we get to finals Ed025. ;)

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{Ed025's Note - fair point hsf..

18 Jun 2018 15:24:41
Question for ed002 please. When can we expect the new Sharkopod. Summer isn't the same without one!

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{Ed002's Note - I had not planned on doing any - but perhaps we will see.}

18 Jun 2018 16:21:03
This would be good if it were to come to fruition.

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18 Jun 2018 16:24:30

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18 Jun 2018 16:27:46
Would love it if you could do one sometime Ed, it's been too long mate.

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18 Jun 2018 16:42:25
Yessssss. I had given up all hope Ed, youve now given me a glimour.

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18 Jun 2018 18:48:17
That would be amazing ed. If you get a chance it would be very much appreciated. All the best.

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks, I’ll do a be but I am travelling right now and won’t be home for a week. I am going to call in to see my PA but I don’t know if she has anything set up in the office I am use. And Spurs come first.}

18 Jun 2018 19:27:48
David Glimour?

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18 Jun 2018 19:31:14
I imagine the majority of the site will happily wait for however long it might take. And it’s nice that your letting spurs come first at least once. Safe travels ed2.

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

18 Jun 2018 20:01:25
The way I look at it, the longer we wait for it the more info we might get out of it so I'm happy to wait! it'll be worth it, Thanks Ed, hope you enjoy your time away.

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18 Jun 2018 23:33:44
Had to back there a bit stoneage but got there in the end.

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19 Jun 2018 23:19:28
You were considering a musical only Sharkopod Ed002. Is that still a “maybe”?


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{Ed002's Note - I am on the road this week.}

18 Jun 2018 11:24:45
Ed001/ 002. Clear your diaries for June 15th 2019 if you can? We will see if we can hold on to OUR cup.

Ps, highlights will be on YouTube tonight.

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{Ed001's Note - it was a fluke you got it!}

18 Jun 2018 16:38:38
Guys appologies for the drop out things still not sorted but life goes on.

Any chance of securing a stadium for the day and perhaps a tournament on there?

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18 Jun 2018 17:12:22
Hi can we have highlights of the event?

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18 Jun 2018 17:55:14
Stg Ken’s speech and captains hairdryer on Mahfuz were the absolute highlights of the day mate, closely followed by his swan lake dive on the edge of the box. He is the nicest Man Utd fan in the world mate, unless of course he has made good on his promise to burn the official Liverpool Mo Salah Egyptian King crown 👑 we gave him, in which case he’s a stereotypical manc after all 😵.

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18 Jun 2018 20:26:01
what is the match called on YouTube? Ps well done around lads.

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{Ed033's Note - Benny Baller hasn't uploaded it yet

17 Jun 2018 18:00:08
Hola eds,

Question for Ed001 or macca if they're around. Anyone know anything about Milan wanting to take brewster and moreno on loan?


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{Ed001's Note - I don't know if the interest in Brewster is still there, they wanted him if he left us. Moreno is someone they have shown interest in.}

17 Jun 2018 23:04:47
How good is this lad tipped to be my friend?

Seems a lot of hype!

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17 Jun 2018 23:48:51
A kind of hope we trim the squad a little of players who always seem to be there when there are injuries - much rather give solanke, Woodburn, Brewster the minutes. In recent times Flanagan, Gomez and Trent have all been given chances through injury and did well - I know Flanagan hasn't pushed on, but it's always nice seeing a player come through the academy, and I hope we see some more.

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18 Jun 2018 04:12:46
I would rather have a capable squad player in a key position than gamble on an 18 ear old prospect. He can get minutes when we are 4-0 up against Arsenal. Not when 1-1 against Spurs.

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17 Jun 2018 21:55:50
Thanks Ed heard it from a friend of mine in Milan and it was first I'd heard so was initially skeptical.

Apparently they'll be making a loan offer for the pair just after WC ends. Not sure why then since neither players are involved.

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{Ed001's Note - they were showing interest in Moreno last summer as well.}

18 Jun 2018 08:45:31
Tried the search engine to see if the Grulic thing had been addressed in detail but couldn't find something . Is there any serious interest in the kid that could result in him leaving or is the club looking to rid of such as Marko and Allan who play similar positions and facing similar issues such as work permits and any hope of getting game time?

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{Ed002's Note - Markovic is still for sale and it will be a case of setting a revised price that is realistic. His loan last season eventually turned out not too bad but when he arrived at Anderlecht he was out of shape and they were obviously not happy with that. Anderlecht did enquire after buying him but the asking price Liverpool had was prohibitive. Allan has been injured - I am not sure if he has recovered now but he will be let go on loan or permanently as there appears to be no other option. Grujic is wanted by Lazio and there have been some discussions between the clubs but there was no agreement before he left for Russia. The player and his father are apparently keen for the move to go ahead so he can get his career back on track.}

18 Jun 2018 09:54:51
Thanks for the detailed response, it's a shame how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers. Best of luck to them where ever they end up. Thanks again for the quick and comprehensive response.

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{Ed002's Note - I failed to mention it is Olympiakos interested in LM.}

18 Jun 2018 12:00:22
Sounds like Brewster is supposed to be the real deal.

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18 jun 2018 12:55:08
when i read about "how we contributed to the stalling of these kids careers" i feel kind of strange, because it sounds like you are giving the club the "harms intentionally those players" tag. you mean, the club spent money, paid salaries and on purpose kept them away from first team action? because i don't feel like markovic wasn't given a chance, he just didn't perform. grujic also played and didn't look like he should be in the first team. allan just couldn't get a wp. etc?
so, all in all, in my opinion, can't blame the club about people not having a successful career, and also, at the same time, blame the club for not buying marquee signings (whatever that is), and then blame the club for taking gambles, and then blame the club for taking a risk with somebody, etc etc etc, list goes on.
truth is, business as usual, don't stare too much. life goes on, both for players and the club. no blame needed on any part. just best of luck to everybody is in order.

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{Ed002's Note - You are missing the point that Liverpool never had a plan.}

18 Jun 2018 13:42:07
I won't argue on what Liverpool did wrong about every single player, but I don't think they intentionally do/ did anybody any harm. The same window they got Grujic, they also got Gomez, who proved himself worthy and is now a valuable member of the first team - more or less same age, good prospects, etc.
Same window when they bought Markovic, they got also Lallana, Origi, Balotelli - of those 3, one turned out pretty awful, one was pretty decent for a while but got injured and one was so-so and went out on loan. So there you have it - four different cases with four different players, all signed in the same window. My point is, it is more or less up to the player to show that he's the real deal. And, I 100% agree that sometimes the club makes buys that are wrong, but looking back it's easy to say "they didn't have a plan and they ruined the boy". Had Markovic done a Salah first season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Anyway, no need to blame anybody on "failed careers" was my starting point. Of course things can go wrong, as in life in general. And it's easy to say when you look back "hey, that was wrong". Yeah, well, they didn't know that back then. I am sure everybody wanted Grujic to turn out to be a Gerrard, I know I did.

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{Ed002's Note - Nobody has ever suggested it was intentional. It was more a case of buying players at the wrong time and having a manager who makes promises which are simply not true.}

18 Jun 2018 14:37:59
Whz whilst it wasn’t intentional we had no idea what we wanted to do with these players. This was rodgers spending money for the sake of it. 20 mil and when he played Markovic he was played out of position. We then turn off clubs wanting him as we want to recoup our money which is never going to happen. So Markovic has barely played whilst his value has gone down year after year. What’s the point in that?

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19 Jun 2018 01:14:43
I think eds has clarified what was meant to be said, in all honesty the tone was set for the lads the moment we signed them without a plan in place for them to progress. Let's face it with broken promise from management and club that's has not planned a path to at least develop you further the odds are just not in your favor.

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17 Jun 2018 15:44:40
Eds I definitely think we need different options up front, maybe a target man for certain games, is the young lad taiwo awonyi anywhere near up to it as this year he has progressed more with the club he on loan at, from what I can see he looks tall strong quick an potentially a nuisance, what's your opinion on him.

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{Ed002's Note - Awoniyi will go on loan again - getting a Work Permit has proven not possible. I suspect the club will look to Anderlecht as the preferred option but other sides such as Brugge and Standard Liege might be interested in a loan.}

17 Jun 2018 16:25:59
That does make sense Ed. He did quite well in Belgium, would playing for a more higher profile team help get a permit Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Potentially, but one I suspect will be a struggle to keep in the longer term. He will go on the pre-season tour of the United States and then on loan.}

17 Jun 2018 16:35:20
Ed2 are the work permit committee pissed off with us? The only reason I ask is because of how we got Grujic his by lying and I can only imagine we aren't in their good books because of that?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool abused the system so they were certainly at the time. The whole Grujic situation has been a terrible mess but it will soon be over.}

17 Jun 2018 17:17:35
How in demand is ..............

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{Ed002's Note - This is the page - we are not going to answer questions about random players.}

17 Jun 2018 17:22:42
Interesting Ed2, thank you!

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17 Jun 2018 17:41:56
Cheers Ed.

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17 Jun 2018 18:10:11
Why can’t Solanke be the target man?

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17 Jun 2018 18:26:49
He is better behind a striker apparently slightly deeper that's where he plays for England youth teams.

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17 Jun 2018 19:44:49
Ed002, will it be even more difficult after Brexit?

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{Ed002's Note - Not for people like Awoniyi.}

17 Jun 2018 21:09:46
Sure, but I’m mean will the permit panel be a bit overwhelmed when the EU players have to apply?

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