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18 Apr 2018 14:44:21
I see we're being linked with Neves. Can't find anything through the search engine sayjng that we're linked. Is it nonsense?

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18 Apr 2018 15:36:50
Its some agent apparently suggesting it, can't see wolves having been promoted being too pleased with that. Although it is that leach of a person who takes all kind of money out of the game that is his direct agent.

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18 Apr 2018 15:56:54
The agent is Jorge Mendes i think, according to the story he has both neves and talisca on his books. The story says he is trying to set up a move for Neves to LFC and talisca for Wolves. Would be a bit of a tasty pay day for him I guess.

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18 Apr 2018 16:48:23
I'd be happy with Neves. He's taken to the rough and tumble of the championship and stood head and shoulders above the rest.

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18 Apr 2018 18:33:51
Neves was too good for the Championship but his agent couldn't engineer a move last season. His performances have shown he's a star and Wolves got a more than fair return for what was a giant fee for a Championship club. Selling him isn't really necessary -- the plan was always to be in the premier league -- but I think he will move again in the summer. Wouldn't mind a 21 year old with his talents in the squad, that's for sure!

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18 Apr 2018 22:41:40
I'd love Neves here, for no other reason than he is one of the stars of CM15 and I always buy him!

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19 Apr 2018 09:37:15
Doesn't his agent also own a percentage of Wolves?

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19 Apr 2018 12:23:40
Its not that his agent couldn't get him a Prem move, more that Mendes is some sort of director or something for Wolves and has moved his pawns around to get Wolves promoted, and its worked. I am sure Mended will get some bonus for his part in that, and will now profit should any clubs come calling for the players he represents.
The Chinese owners of Wolves now also have stakes in Mendes' company, its all incestuous all benefiting each other in kind.
I do like Neves though, just feel its lazy journalism. We were linked the last two summers and we have a CM leaving, link is too obvious to make.

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19 Apr 2018 12:25:55
Other way round, Spud, was reading that the Chinese owner of Wolves also bought a 20% stake in Mendes's (agent) agency before buying Wolves.

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20 Apr 2018 11:57:17
I think it's the owners of Wolves who owns a stake in his agency.

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18 Apr 2018 11:17:28
I've seen a lot of clamouring for Mathis de Ligt recently.

A huge talent by the looks of it but why are people so keen to sign him when it would / could be a blocker to Gomez? You know, the 20 year old talent defender we already have in our team?

Seriously, if we were to sign a CB, it needs to be someone on par with VVD in both experience and current ability.

I don’t see the point in buying an 18 year old when Joe Gomez is clearly a big talent himself.

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18 Apr 2018 11:55:33
If someone of that talent and potential is available you sign him. Massive if but if he came klopp would likely make say matip and klavan available and we'd then have 4 1st team cbs. 2 more experienced 2 young looking to get in the team.

But also do remember lovren has had shockers and it wouldn't be a surprise if neither Matip or Lovren were in klopps plans.

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18 Apr 2018 13:20:35
Lovren next to VVD looks far better though. Lovren has cut out a lot of the errors but tend to struggle against certain opposition. He’s had a tough time from us as a fan base at times but he’s got his head down and always give 100% which I think should be appreciated.

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18 Apr 2018 13:20:40
I'd have to disagree. you only sign someone of huge talent if you need them and it would be of benefit to both parties.

it wouldn't be of benefit to de ligt or gomez to warming the bench and our money could be better invested elsewhere.

you don't really rotate CB's like you do other positions and in the main need a settled back 4.

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18 Apr 2018 13:23:11
Matthijs de Ligt will be a top top player.

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18 Apr 2018 14:01:40
De Ligt is a couple of years away at least and could be cover for Klavan but I get your point OP.

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18 Apr 2018 14:02:24
Agreed Cesar. It seems like the overt show of support from fans after the Spurs away game (voting player of the month and all) has helped Lovren turn a corner. And recently he's been very good bar the ManU game.

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18 Apr 2018 16:43:57
Completely agree with 87 here, we have Gomez and that's that, if we was to sign such a player we'd be practically forcing Gomez out, something none of us want to see.

It's getting to that time of the year again though, we're 'linked' with literally everybody and his mother.

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18 Apr 2018 22:17:44
To be fair Salah, I hear his mother is a decent footballer with potential to replace Can.

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19 Apr 2018 15:13:22
Klavan and Matip will probably be gone in the summer which leaves us with VVD, Lovren, Gomez (and De ligt if he comes)
So even playing a normal back 4 means we have 2 experienced players and 2 young players for cover.

during early cup games it would be great to have Gomez and De ligt starting with vvd and Lovren rested.

Who knows the 2 youngsters could be a long term partnership when VVD and Lovren start to lose their legs.
Lovren is 28 in a couple of months. When he hits 30, Gomez will be 23, perfect age to begin his push into a permanent starting 11 spot at CB.

VVD is nearly 26 so by the time he is 30 De Ligt will be close to 22, again a good age to start pressuring VVD for the starting 11 spot. And after 4 years he should be well and truly intergrated into the squad and comfortable playing alongside Gomez.

My thoughts anyway xD

Although as someone else said, i’d rather we got another experienced CB and use Lovren as the experienced cover. He has excelled next to VVD but we never know if it'll last as he has been shocking for so long.

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20 Apr 2018 07:39:00
If we buy him as cover he won't be getting much game time wich will hinder his developmwnt.

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17 Apr 2018 16:00:18
Spanish guy I work with reckons we've had a bid accepted for Ceballos.

If Nevada is about, I was just wondering if you've heard anything. Your info on Spanish football is always sound.

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17 Apr 2018 16:37:05
Window isn't open MK how can we even bid?

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{Ed002's Note - You can bid any time.}

17 Apr 2018 16:53:22
As Ed002 touched on, I believe only the changing of registration is restricted to the windows Kloppsreds17. Everything else can be done at any time in preparation for the window opening. Agreeing a fee, contract negotiations etc.

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17 Apr 2018 17:02:04
Fair enough Ed. Sorry MK I stand corrected mate. Im not saying your wrong either just doubtfull imo at this stage.

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17 Apr 2018 17:14:20
Not convinced by him myself from the matches I've watched him.

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{Ed0333's Note - I think he’s a lovely little player. If we can get him for a smallish fee he could turn out to be another Coutinho in terms of value. He would be a positive addition to a weak midfield in my opinion.

17 Apr 2018 18:07:44
I felt the same Davey, then saw he’s only 21. He’s a decent player with the potential to be a great player in my opinion. A lot will be down to him if he can settle etc in England and get used to our style.

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17 Apr 2018 18:13:07
Do you believe he's a starter from the get? Henderson, Keita, Ceballos perhaps?

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17 Apr 2018 18:14:01
Agreed with Ed333, he is a good player and I think he'd thrive under Klopp. Thanks for the info MK.

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17 Apr 2018 18:34:26
Amerigo - id see it as a rotation between Ceballos and Ox. Keita starts for his price tag as does Henderson with him being captain.

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17 Apr 2018 19:31:55
Keita won’t start because of his price tag and Hendo doesn’t start because he’s captain. They’ll start because they’ve earned their place in the XI and because they’re the best at their respective roles at the club.

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17 Apr 2018 17:28:49
Ed0333, you think he is ready to come straight into the team then mate? I guess im going on the fact he gets very little time at Madrid.

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{Ed0333's Note - I wouldn’t base not getting game time as a barometer to wether he’s ready for our first team mate. Coutinho wasn’t being played by Stramaccioni at Inter and we nipped in ahead of Southampton and look how that turned out. I know our midfield is performing heroics at the moment and I don’t want to upset the status quo but we have a sub-standard midfield which needs some considerable tweaking next season. I will go on record and say if signed Ceballos will improve that area markedly. I’d be delighted with this transfer.

17 Apr 2018 17:34:33
I agree with Ed0333, the lad was class at Real Betis before making the move to Real Madrid. Things have not worked out at Real, but Zidane had not changed his line up since he has been at Real.

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{Ed0333's Note - lots of negativity towards Ceballos from reds fans for some unknown reason. The fans want big money, big name players and established world class stars. Truth be told we aren’t the type of club that attracts those players and nor thankfully do we have a manager that traditionally desires those players. He nurtures them and makes them megastars. We can’t afford to spunk 90 million on a player and have him fail like United. I think Ceballos could go on and have the same impact as Nuri Sahin had for Klopp at Dortmund.

17 Apr 2018 18:17:47
Ed0333 just wondering if you were in charge of the money how much you’d be willing to pay? I know nothing of the player and just interested to see what you’d class as good fee for him.

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{Ed0333's Note - if we got him for under 25 million I’d say we’ve done well but I have no idea about market forces. For example I don’t think we’ll get a penny for Danny Sturridge and some people think he’s worth £20 million, and I would never have sanctioned a £35 million transfer for The Ox and he’s made me look like a divvy.

17 Apr 2018 22:50:49
No chance in my opinion ed. His technique is nowhere near that. Vision is not the best which worries me the most for his position. Just don't see it.

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{Ed0333's Note - I appreciate your opinion mate and we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. My opinion I think he’s twice the player Lallana is. How much have you seen him play Davey? Have you seen how Klopp has transformed The Ox, he may restore Dani Cabellos’ eyesight?

18 Apr 2018 07:40:01
I'd recommend people watch ceballos's games for spain u21 this season. he's taken over the free role in their midfield from asensio and smashed it, wonderful player with great potential.

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18 Apr 2018 07:53:26
So does anyone or any of the eds no of any bid for the player that MK suggested yesterday then?

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{Ed001's Note - Ed002 has been telling you for months that we are interested....}

18 Apr 2018 08:16:10
He has to be fair Ed001. He would be a good addition imo.

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18 Apr 2018 08:18:40
It's no shame a 21 year old not playing much when they have kroos modric and Casemiro as first choice!

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17 Apr 2018 21:22:25
Do we still hold an interest ed?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP, use the search engine please.}

18 Apr 2018 08:52:53
Adam83. No disrespect intended here but the OP has said that he beleives we have made a bid for the player. Ed002 has explained for months we have big interest in him and is available.

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18 Apr 2018 10:15:24
besides the front 3 and the increasingly steady back line, can we really say we have a nailed on starting midfield group? I don't think so, and tbh I can see our midfield group continualy rotating throughout the season to deliver the kind of energy we need all season. for me ceballos would be a welcome addition to the group. we can't have 6 Keita quality players, but we can have young and hungry guys like ceballos coming in to compete for a starting position. I think he would be good for the squad.

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18 Apr 2018 11:05:52
From what I’ve seen he seems the perfect fit for Liverpool young talented and point to prove . I for 1 aprove of this move if it’s true. The 1 thing that baffles me is he being signed as a forward (ie replacement for coutinho) or as a replacement for can in midfield . Excited to see what our midfield will look like next year

Thanks for the updates eds and reds 👌🏻.

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18 Apr 2018 11:14:49
You are partially right Ed333. He is better than Lallana but Lallana was bang average and was only hit for Liverpool fans! Cabellos is very similar to Lallana in playing style. A lot of tricks and flicks with no clue what to do next. Just doesn’t release the ball quick enough! Cabellos has no vision to play from the deep. He doesn’t pass when there an option. Don’t believe my words, Ask a regular Spanish football supporter! I would be utterly disappointed if we don’t add Jorginho ( who is what we are missing in that midfield)

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18 Apr 2018 11:22:32
So what happens to the “Young, hungry“ Grujic? How Is Ceballos any better than Grujic. I know people are over the top when we are linked to or close to sign a player. But can we please have some perspective that we don’t do another Grujic?
On to the player. Ceballos is atleast 2 years or close to 50 games from establishing as a first teamer, which is exactly why he is looking for a move! Don’t be suprised if Real insert a “ buy back clause “.

What are his strengths that posters are raving about? He is not a good passer and that’s not his game!
Reminds me of the same excitement when we signed the Serbian Messi, Grujic!
Argument of him being better than Lallana is very naive. Lallana was already replaced by AOC last summer.
We need someojt who could control the tempo of the game sitting deep. Ceballos is not that player!

Thanks.

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18 Apr 2018 14:06:55
Harry, Ceballos is a great dribbler, is strong on the ball, very composed, and is a solid passer. Most importantly, he defends very well in midfield and is very good at dispossessing the opposition. I agree with Ed333, he could be very similar for Klopp, to Nuri Sahin. He has that same kind of ability to make space for himself and launch attacks from deep with line splitting passes.

Grujic isn't in his league, which is why he had to get a loan to Cardiff, whilst Ceballos rejected Barcelona for Real Madrid.

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18 Apr 2018 16:37:44
Grujic was chased by every man and his dog at his previous club which is why we paid way over the top and now we realize we made a mistake! Isn’t it?
Grujic might not be in his league but Ceballos is not in the league of first teamers either!

Ceballos doesn’t dictate game from deep, you have watched someone else. He spends hours and hours on the ball doing the turn and tricks just for the sake of it! Very much a Lallana who doesn’t dictate the game either.
Liverpool today need a top class Deep lying playmaker. A leader in the middle who will set the tone and tempo of the game.

Real Madrid buying kids is very much like Brendan buying players! They signed illermandi when he was raving success!
If he is seen as a cover ( for which he wouldn’t come to us in the first place) , then who am I to stop the transfer.

If your new center midfield recruitments for the next summer are Kieta and Ceballos then I am utterly disappointed!

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18 Apr 2018 17:51:28
Just wait and see Harry. You didn't want Chamberlain either.

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18 Apr 2018 22:12:26
I would be surprised if this happens. Klopp is adding goals to his mid field.
Ox has scored 7 keita has scored 9
Ceballos rarely scores. Unless klopp thinks he can improve his scoring or wants to play him as a minder I don't see it happening.
Btw Hendo Milner and Gini only scored 1 each so will be surprised if they play much next season. I suspect Hendon and Gini will move on.

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18 Apr 2018 23:40:52
If we get Ceballos for less than 30mill, it will be a steal. Miles ahead of Lallana. Has the footwork and pivot work of Busquets. Just needs to sharpen his distribution. Treated badly by Zidane. Perfect project player for Klopp to bring through.

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18 Apr 2018 20:07:12
Ed0333 better then lallana

I thought he was our second best player. last season after mane

Are they simular.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’d say comparing cebelos to Lallana is a fair comparison. Cablelos can dictate tempo, has a trick or three and has a fair acceleration on him with ball at feet. For me cebelos is a better player than Lalana. A trio of Keita, Ox and Cebelos would be a massive upgrade on what we have now. Lalana being second best player last season doesn’t matter mate it’s what your doing now and at this moment he’s injured and not positively affecting the team.

19 Apr 2018 15:12:12
Real Madrid fans love him and don’t want him sold. They will know a lot more about him than anybody else outside the club.

Looking through his soFIFA page's comment section and they all say that he has no of pushing into the first team yet which is understandable considering who they have. but all of them want him loaned out or somehow given a chance, not to be sold.

The high quality of midfield players Madrid fans are used too, they clearly see great potential in him.

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19 Apr 2018 23:32:51
Liverpool fc next year; Karius
Alexander Arnold, Clement Leglet, van Dijk, Robertson
Naby Keita, Ruben Neves, Chamberlain
Mane, Firmino, Salah
van Dijk as captain.

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17 Apr 2018 13:06:52
Hi Eds,

Have we ever had scouts watch Hakim Ziyech or hold any interest in him?

He looks an incredible player (looks like Ajax have afew of those atm) with time on his side! I think he would suit really well with our midfield, and Klopps pressing style/ fast driving attacks. Although we probably already have the 2 forward midfielders taken up with keita and Ox! Would be an incredible rotation player for us, especially if his other option is Everton!

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{Ed002's Note - We cannot answer questions about random players on the Liverpool page. However, as there is the most tenuous of links I will give you an answer.

Any Everton interest sounds like old news about a Martinez target from a couple of years back. Hoffenheim and Sampdoria were disappointed with January 2016 rejections for Hakim Ziyech who chose to move to Ajax in the summer of 2016 over interest from Fenerbahce, Dortmund, CSKA Moscow, Sunderland, Swansea and Southampton. Other sides including Inter, Roma, Crystal Palace Leicester all looked to the player when he was at Twente. His agent said last year that "Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs have come from England to watch my player" (who comes with a great deal of baggage) but there is nothing to substantiate that at all. Chelsea had a player on loan at Ajax, Spurs and Liverpool took a look at Kasper Dolberg and Riechedly Bazoer respectedly.}

17 Apr 2018 14:50:02
Apologies Ed002! Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! :)

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Alex.}

17 Apr 2018 13:36:19
So Gomez and Lovren back in training and should be fine. Great news. One thing i've learnt from this on imjieys is to wait for the club to issue updates.

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17 Apr 2018 13:39:48
*Injury's. 😂.

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17 Apr 2018 14:24:28
Brilliant news if correct, those two have been my one major concern running into a critical period.

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17 Apr 2018 21:07:21
Never thought I’d hear myself saying this.

Glad Lovren is back, think he’s really improved since the arrival of VVD.

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16 Apr 2018 21:51:51
Any truth we are looking at centre half Lenglet of Sevilla?

Just read them on a news site so not sure if true.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware but he has only been there this season, and although doing well he has made it clear where he wants to play, which is Barcelona. Hype has picked up on this and linked him with Madrid as well. Sevilla want protection financially and will trade money for a one year extension and a large buy out clause. Seems unlikely but remind me in a couple of days as I was married to someone at one time who would know.}

17 Apr 2018 02:36:26
He has to stay there one more year to be polished. This season Sevilla played 52 games and conceded 74 goals.

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17 Apr 2018 07:40:37
Lenglet is quality, a partnership with him and Virgil could potentially be amazing. Like ed002 said tho sevilla are looking to up his release clause which I think is only 26m so we would have to move quick if we wanted him. To me looks like his agents are just getting barcas attention while the hype is on him and get them to make a move. Id like to think we have a chance but if umtiti leaves and Barcelona want him he'll go there.

Hope we're more than interested in him he's the cb id want, followed since he moved from Nancy in ligue 2, monchis parting gift in fact. He has made errors its expected while he adapted and he is young. But he keeps progressing check out the games against united he schooled lukaku, lovren should watch too ;) .

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18 Apr 2018 00:54:24
He is a left cb, where vvd plays. Don't think he and vvd will be amazing partners.

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15 Apr 2018 14:50:54
Hi Ed's and Reds.

As you know I very rarely post "rumours" however I've heard from my source at Swansea that us, along with a number of Prem clubs have been closely watching Ollie Watkins of Brentford. Now I know we watch loads of players all the time, so I'm not saying there is concrete interest, but I'm wondering if any of the Ed's had heard his name mentioned in relation to us scouting him? And if he is any good?

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - Others I am aware of, not Liverpool.}

15 Apr 2018 17:21:16
Ok thanks Ed.

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15 Apr 2018 12:22:40
Hi Eds, just curious whether there has being any indication that Liverpool would target additional wide players in the summer to compete with Manè and Salah (cover injuries/ strength in depth) or considering how well Harry Wilson has being doing at Hull will Jurgen give him a chance to impress rather than sign another winger?

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{Ed002's Note - A couple of players who the club has shown an interest in are able to play wide. I would rather doubt you will see much of Wilson next year.}

15 Apr 2018 13:27:42
What's the plan with Wilson? Another loan?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any plan at this time. I appreciate reports are good and he is doing well but it is hard to see how he would fit in to the first team plans for next season given he has zero relevant experience and has been playing in the Championship and PL2.}

15 Apr 2018 15:17:08
Maybe a loan to a premier league team?

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15 Apr 2018 15:23:43
Ed002, I read your reports on our most linked midfield options and below it you said to give you a break because people keep asking about attacking options. Just wondering. have you had enough of a break now, that we can ask for your list of our attacking options?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean by "most linked". As for more attacking players I don't think anything has changed.}

18 Apr 2018 00:21:13
We should see if Klopp's pal at Huddlesfield will take Wilson on loan next year and give him regular playing time.

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15 Apr 2018 11:00:19
Hi Eds,

Had a browse back of earlier posts. I know you've mentioned we'll potentially look at a right back this summer, I wondered if you had picked up any potential names recently? Thanks for your hard work.

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, no one new sorry.}

15 Apr 2018 11:49:43
Has Trent not come on enough for Klopp to trust as his first choice next year Ed001?

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{Ed001's Note - it is more that both Gomez and Trent are not expected to have a long term future at full back.}

15 Apr 2018 12:22:01
Trent is so young, will he not have another 2/ 3 years at full back before moving forward? He gets great experience there.

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{Ed001's Note - he still is not going to play every game, and Clyne is unwanted, so another right back is needed.}

15 Apr 2018 12:39:47
I like Clyne, but is inconsistent. Where do you think Trent will end up playing in the long term Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - he is expected to end up in midfield.}

15 Apr 2018 15:03:33
Thanks Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

15 Apr 2018 16:00:50
I get that ed, but can't Gomez rotate right back and centre back? Who can we buy that will be good enough, and happy enough To be second choice to Trent for now?

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{Ed001's Note - he would be pushing for first choice, allowing Trent to rotate there and in midfield and Gomez to rotate there and centre back.}

15 Apr 2018 18:50:04
In my opinion, Ed01, I would keep him at right back long term. Agreed that this season is the first I've seen him week in week out and didn't followed his development prior to this season, but if we get another RB, I would hope it's because Clyne is leaving.

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15 Apr 2018 20:10:41
So ed001 with can leaving and Keita coming another expected

How do you think he will play midfield just interest to how ya think it'll work out.

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{Ed001's Note - same as this season, one deep two up.}

15 Apr 2018 21:46:11
Very interesting that people see his qualities in midfield, ed1. Thanks.
Do you have any inclination of what type of midfield role Trent is expected by the club to play. or in your opinion where his attributes would see him suited?

I. e. the deeper “6” type role or a more box to box role with more attacking license type role.
Appreciate this is asking for a crystal ball in some respect and players can adapt to many roles but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

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{Ed001's Note - more of a box to box type role as he has pace and energy to get up and down.}

16 Apr 2018 07:26:47
Trent playing right back short term is perfect for gaining experience for the box to box midfielder . Didn't Gerrard start at right back under houllier?

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16 Apr 2018 08:08:50
I susupect a fullback in the Robbo type of deal would do,1 who is looking to push for 1st team but also looking to put in the shift of learning instead of sulking,

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18 Apr 2018 10:21:59
definitely a box to box type. when he first started coming on fir the first team as a sub and in some age group games he played in midfield and looked very much like a player hungry to get forward, get stuck into tackles etc perfect attitude and engine for a box to box type especially in our system.

But I could see him playing more regularly at RB for another season or two. I struggle to see how rotating in and out of RB to CM will be helpful to him at this early stage unless he is going to be so influential as a CM that he ousts one of the incumbents there. I'd like to see him continue as a RB next season as the oreferred first choice, develop his experieence and reading of the game etc. it's a great position to learn from.

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15 Apr 2018 10:46:00
Hey eds and reds

Seen a name mentioned for our midfield that never heard of before

Bruno Fernandes of sporting Lisbon
Looks very silky on the ball
Heard anything on this player eds

Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool but the €100M asking price put off another PL side who enquired.}

16 Apr 2018 08:27:34
lol, gosh, knowing us and the way we handle such. We probably will be asked to pay twice that.

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16 Apr 2018 18:34:05
Portugal has excellent midfielders now a days
Bruno
Bernardo
Ruben!

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