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11 Jul 2024 16:52:15
Hi eds, what are your thoughts on the Darwin Nunez incident with the Colombian fans? Could he face a ban? If so, would Liverpool consider entering the transfer market for a striker, possibly targeting Osimhen since Napoli wants to sell?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Osimhen is not moving to Liverpool.}


1.) 11 Jul 2024 17:38:18
Nunez done what any man, woman or alien would do, he reacted to protect his family! Look in his eyes on the pic of him and his small son, he looks relieved, scared, worried, shocked, all the emotions of a dad who has had to do what it takes to protect his boy!

No punishment will come his way, because punishment is for people who do something wrong.


2.) 11 Jul 2024 18:03:20
Mountains out of molehills. If anything he was the one who was assaulted by some drunken hooligans.


3.) 11 Jul 2024 19:09:27
Exactly he did what anyone else would have done, they can't punish him for that.


4.) 11 Jul 2024 19:27:36
Nunez Nunez Nunez! Protecting his family, proper Dad ??.


5.) 11 Jul 2024 20:00:22
I too agree that Nunez (from the wider videos rather than the edited snapshots being more widely shared) did the right thing and there'll likely be no meaningful sanctions.

However, let's consider the fantasy situation where Darwin was banned for 8 months (which is what Cantona got for a far more serious incident) . In what world does a club buy a £100m+ player as cover for one who is out for a lot of the season?

Just madness, schools must be out already!


6.) 11 Jul 2024 20:45:54
Adrian Mutu.

His treatment fits Zeds description but obviously inflation has to be taken into account.


7.) 11 Jul 2024 23:29:05
Good point on Mutu, Ron, but he took drugs, not defend his family, IIRC.


8.) 12 Jul 2024 07:46:47
From what I can see the authorities inside the ground are the ones at fault, allowing juiced up Columbians anywhere near children and family of Uraguyan footballers after a very important football match was always going to provocative, in the same way as mixing away supporters in the home end not good.


9.) 12 Jul 2024 11:46:18
Darwin will be fine

True to form he missed with 3 of the 5 attempts he tried.


 

 

09 Jul 2024 14:11:11
Man Utd have just had a bid accepted for Yoro. Will we match it Eds considering we are chasing him and being opportunistic in the market?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - He wants to move to Real Madrid.}


1.) 09 Jul 2024 14:54:16
I don’t think we will offer €50 mill for a 19 year old kid. I am no expert on finances but going by the look we have cash in hand.


2.) 09 Jul 2024 14:43:39
Hi Ed,
I know you have wrote update about andre trindade, alan varela, khephren thuram and other DM players that liverpool already not interesting anymore. Can you share which one of players that liverpool looking up to now? knowing Endo itself has said on the one of interview that the club should find another DM. I know that we still have Bajcetic but i think its to heavy for him to cover our lost on Thiago and Fabinho.
Appreciate if you share your thoughts. thank you and have a great day.

{Ed002's Note - The list is getting shorter:
Joshua Kimmich (DM/RB) Having agreed the move for Palhinha, Bayern Munich will make Kimmich available, a significant fee of perhaps €45M would be sought - perhaps beyond what interested sides Barcelona or Manchester City would pay for a 29 year old on €400k per week in the last year of his contract although both clubs may well look to find a solution that suits everybody with Barcelona willing to let a player move as part of a deal. Al Ahli may offer a solution in the Middle East.

A wildcard option would be a move to replace Ugarte at PSG which would suit Manchester United who see him as a cheaper option to Neves. There is interest from Liverpool and Arsenal but it will likely go nowhere. The player has said he would like to play for Manchester City. New coach will have a say at Bayern Munich and that could lead to a one year extension. The player can be a serious pain in the neck for coaches.

Teun Koopmeiners (DM/CM) Atalanta are reluctant to sell but his agent wants the player to be playing regularly in the Champions League with Newcastle, Juventus and Napoli having declared interest. Interest of Milan shifted to Tijjani Reijnders so they can be discounted. Liverpool offer a good option for the player but will be reluctant to meet the asking price - but they are very keen.

Approaches were been made to Arsenal, Manchester United, Spurs and Chelsea although none have spoken with Atalanta and all have other targets for now but cannot be discounted. Brighton and Aston Villa interest has gone. Juventus has a creative solution and will push for a summer move knowing that the player wants Juventus move. Marseille have walked away due to the quoted cost although a change of ownership could see a huge shift for them. Atalanta are seeking €60M if pressed to sell and feeling is Liverpool or Juventus will win out, most probably Juventus.

Alan Varela (DM) Barcelona may offer a profit to Porto and a player in exchange. PSG has a declared interest. An option for Manchester City to replace Phillips, but not first choice although they have spoken with Porto. Bayern Munich consider him an option to replace Kimmich.

Liverpool are following up on several scouting missions to see if something can be done. Chelsea sent scouts but no more. Dortmund will not match his buy out clause. Porto has no interest in selling the player who only joined them in the summer of 2023 unless someone offered his buy out clause in a single payment, then the player will be consulted. €70M

Manu Kouadio Kone (CM/DM) Prior interest of Milan has gone. Newcastle did approach Borussia Muenchegladbach but they will resist a sale although Newcastle remain keen. RBL were keen to add Kone to replace Laimer but that interest, like the interest of Bayern Munich has now gone away. Juventus and Liverpool may have a continuing interest but he will not be first choice for either. Napoli offer a wildcard option but are concerned by muscular injuries.

Joao Neves (DM/CM) Discussed with Chelsea when meeting over another player as they were seeking a replacement for Loftus-Cheek. Potential Casemiro replacement for Manchester United. Huge buy out clause and Benfica will not look to sell but recognise there will be growing interest and will insist that the buy out clause is met. Liverpool and Manchetser City have sent scouts. Versatile but falls over easily. I expect Manchester United to push even having a first offer rejected.

Adrian Rabiot (CM/DM) Juventus are looking to replace their midfield misfits. They are looking to sell and move off the wage bill players they no longer want in order to fund replacements they have already identified. As a free agent, Rabiot will, like every other player, be offered to Newcastle.

A third party has been instructed to find him a new home and whilst he could have been used in part exchanges previously he has let his contract run down and will leave as a Free Agent in the summer. Liverpool offer an unlikely, at least to me, solution. MIlan and Real Madrid offer wildcard options. Wage demands will be excessive.

Douglas Luiz (CM/DM) No.
Archie Gray (DM/CM/RB) No.
Andre Trindade (DM) No.
Kalvin Phillips (DM) No.
Ezequiel Fernandez (DM) No.
Joao Palhinha (DM/CM) No
Martin Zubimendi (CM/DM) No.
Morten Frendrup (CM/DM) No.
Khephren Thuram (DM/CM) No.
Assan Ouedraogo (CM/DM) No.}


3.) 09 Jul 2024 15:27:54
Thank you so much Ed. Up the Reds! ????.


4.) 09 Jul 2024 15:36:34
Any chance for Mikel Merino maybe Ed? I have read that liverpool previously was interested on merino last summer.

I think liverpool should discount kimmich considering his wages and the player more interested to join pep at man city.

{Ed002's Note - None.}


5.) 09 Jul 2024 15:46:48
Hi Ed2, thanks for a very detailed overview! Do we hold an interest in Ederson? Didn't see his name on your list. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Yes but he is not a DM player really. Fty searching.}


6.) 09 Jul 2024 15:59:48
Nice update Ed.

Based on the new shortened list it would appear that Koopmeiners and Varela offer the best chances of us signing a DM. Personally I'd be happy with either.

Personally I don't see €60/ 70M as a huge outlay given that DM is our major problem area.


7.) 09 Jul 2024 16:21:26
Kimmich, Neves, Koopmeiners and Rabiot don’t improve our starting 11 one bit. None of them are effective defensive midfielders or would offer any more protection to our defence than anyone we already have. Kimmich is massively over rated and too old, nothing more than a happy shopper Lahm who has been found out and dumped back at right back for both Bayern and Germany, if the manager thinks Can is a better defensive midfielder than you, then you’ve got problems.

Neves is way too expensive, don’t see the fuss and from what Ed has said, seems to be a bit of a soft lad which is not a quality you look for in a defensive midfielder. Koopmeiners doesn’t play defensive midfield for Atalanta, it’s De Roon and Ederson who sit at the base of midfield and Koopmeiners is one of the attacking midfielders, to me he’s about the same as Mac Allister, if Mac was leaving he’d be an ideal replacement but as he isn’t, then I don’t see that he offers anything we don’t already have.

Rabiot simply isn’t good enough. Too slow, too lumbering, not particularly good on the ball, not particularly good defensively and for a big lad he doesn’t use his physicality at all, either in the air or to win challenges, every time I’ve seen him he looks incredibly lazy, hasn’t set the world alight wherever he’s been and at his age he’s only going to get worse.

Kone has injury issues, which feels like a reason to pass him by and Varela seems more like Fernandez type which is really a defensive midfielder as Chelsea have expensively found out.

If that’s the pool we’re choosing from then it is very slim pickings and I don’t mean the actor from Blazing Saddles.


8.) 09 Jul 2024 16:47:59
I think we may end up with Trent playing DM. Would absolutely be the wrong call. We need to bring someone in badly.


9.) 09 Jul 2024 16:48:16
I'm just here for Victor's expert analysis.


10.) 09 Jul 2024 17:33:32
Joao Neves doesn’t improve our starting 11…. WOW, the lad is going to be fire and would be an amazing signing for your however I think he is actually out of our reach in terms of cost and reckon he will end up at City.


11.) 09 Jul 2024 17:57:46
Maybe VV expected another DM player like Christian Poulsen or Jay Spearing ??.


12.) 09 Jul 2024 18:55:16
Viktor, MacAllister could well be gone next season. One of the Eds said he is on Real’s list for 2025 So do we wait for him to leave and lose out on a potential replacement this season? Or do we bed someone in and give us ourselves another option in CM?


13.) 09 Jul 2024 19:14:43
Real will need to play 2-6-2 at this rate.
What is the release clause for Alexis?


14.) 09 Jul 2024 19:22:40
Is Viktor like Candyman or Beetlejuice? Say Kimmich three times and he appears?


15.) 09 Jul 2024 19:46:58
My best friend's mum's best friend is friends with a woman who has a son that is friends with someone who works at Liverpool and apparently we're getting valverde. Just passing on what I've been told.


16.) 09 Jul 2024 20:34:56
The only player VV likes in the entire world is Mbappe.


17.) 09 Jul 2024 21:08:55
VV has also said he really likes Ederson in a thread below.
Plenty knocking VV but I enjoy his posts and opinions, not a sheep that's for sure and stands by his beliefs. It's good to have on a Banter site.


18.) 09 Jul 2024 17:37:40
Ed02, is Ugarte on that list or is he is going to Manchester? Also was there really a meeting between Mendes and Liverpool representatives last week?

{Ed002's Note - I don't think Ugarte is an option any longer.}


19.) 09 Jul 2024 23:00:50
Rabiot is a big lad?


20.) 10 Jul 2024 06:52:11
Yes as long as we remember that it is only opinion and not fact. I like Rabiot as a player and he certainly Isn’t slow and very good on the ball but I would have a concern about his desire in the cut and thrust of the Premier League.


21.) 10 Jul 2024 07:54:24
Victor you say that you don't like Kimmich, Neves, Koopmeiners and Rabiot because they are not effective defensive midfielders. However you then seem to say you don't like Varela because "seems more like Fernandez type which is really a defensive midfielder". Im not trying to pull holes in your argument - just wondering is there some words missing there? Or is my comprehension poor?


22.) 11 Jul 2024 06:12:19
I actually agree with VV here. I don't think the players mentioned are as bad as what he says, but if that's the pool we are looking at then I'd rather go with Endo and give opportunities to Bajcetic, Morton and McConnell as cover.


23.) 11 Jul 2024 08:46:07
My pick of the lot would be Neves, no brainer. He has potential to be world class but we're not getting him.

Ederson good option but seems unlikely to happen.

I liked Kone when we were linked to him at the start of last season but I'd avoid now due to injuries.

Varela might be alright. I think he has the right attributes and could form a solid partnership with Macca in the midfield.


 

 

03 Jul 2024 11:19:46
Eds, Liverpool's recruitment team has had a year to work on targets. Richard Hughes, Michael Edwards, and Arne Slot would have put in work even before joining in June. With potential targets in the Copa America and Euros having just 1-3 games left, why haven't we seen any movement in the transfer window?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have continued to talk with agents and in some cases the clubs of potential targets. For example, they spoke with Newcastle about Gordon and they spoke with the agent of Leny Yoro. Theyt will be working to reduce the number of targets they have in order to prioritorise and will need to speak to agents and player about departures.}


1.) 03 Jul 2024 13:39:30
As I read your post Ed, Liv interest in Gordon is more serious than just an inquiry. I read somewhere that Newcastle would want to include Quansah in some way into any deal regarding Gordon and that's why Liv are backing down for now. Is that true or just a bluff?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not backed down - they want to include a player if they can but rather it not be Quansah.}


2.) 03 Jul 2024 14:53:02
Can I ask what player Liverpool would be willing to add into the deal eds2?

{Ed002's Note - Any from those who are looking to leave I would think.}


3.) 03 Jul 2024 14:57:51
Ed002 - have Newcastle got any interest in any other players other than Quansah/ who is it we would be looking to include? With regards to Yoro has that progressed any further or is it very much he is still set on going to Madrid?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would try and include any player that wishes to depart and Liverpool could offer game time to. Yoro is still intent on Real Madrid.}


4.) 03 Jul 2024 16:02:53
I’d hope we don’t waste any more time on Yoro. No pount pursuing a player who will never play for us or simply doesn’t want to. Almost as daft as going after Tchouameni, Bellingham or Caicedo.


5.) 03 Jul 2024 16:37:48
Do you know if Kelleher would be of any interest to them?


6.) 03 Jul 2024 19:20:44
The three that could make sense would be Kelleher, VDB, Carvalho Sep makes the most sense since it looks like there after a CB.


7.) 03 Jul 2024 19:08:43
I know this stuff is all so nuanced, but that's a very exciting update on Gordon. Thanks, Ed!


8.) 04 Jul 2024 00:05:25
Can’t lie, wouldn’t mind Gordon, I know he looks like Clare Balding, but he’s done well at Newcastle, he’s quick, direct, scores goals, creates chances, is a bit of a s***house, is English, and most importantly he’s a huge Liverpool supporter, a local lad and is apparently desperate to join, I think he’d absolutely bust a gut for us every game.


9.) 04 Jul 2024 04:14:25
Totally agree VV.

I think he'd be fantastic for us, not just because he's a good player, but also because he always looks to me like he gives his all on the pitch and like you said, the lad looks desperate to punt on the red shirt so he'd give 110% for us.

Ship out Diaz and anyone else who doesn't want to be in the club and give that spot to Gordon 100%.


10.) 04 Jul 2024 12:49:50
Kelleher or Gomez are the 2 positions Newcastle need, would offer them, decent price tag on them too.


11.) 04 Jul 2024 21:01:29
Not sure Kelleher makes much sense unless they sell Pope. They just bought another GK from Forest the other day.


 

 

11 May 2024 13:31:37
Eds is there any interest in Jeremie Frimpong? 35m release clause and have him and bradley at RB and move trent into midfield.

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Lots but not from Liverpool.}


1.) 11 May 2024 18:15:12
There’s no reason to look at Frimpong with Connor Bradley coming through.


2.) 11 May 2024 22:38:26
You need squad depth and rotation.


3.) 12 May 2024 01:57:18
@VV, Bradley is 20 and his performance will suffer (like everybody else) if he is asked to play 60 games next season. If TAA moves into midfield, which I reckon he wants to do then we need cover for Bradley. It doesn’t look like it will be Ramsey and there is a strangely growing group who want to see Gomez leave (for reasons beyond me) .


4.) 12 May 2024 12:48:22
Bradley should be our right back. excellent player, hungry energetic clever. why by a player like to stunt his advancement.


5.) 12 May 2024 13:13:34
I think it’s a minimum of 50 games next season due to the CL new format.

That’s lots of games for the squad and realistically we can’t expect any individual player to play all 50.


6.) 12 May 2024 16:12:00
With Bradley and Trent, I’d say right back is our best stocked position actually.


7.) 12 May 2024 18:12:23
Apparently the bloke that's played right full for 8 years is a midfielder Navy.


8.) 13 May 2024 08:35:57
Trent, Bradley and Joe. Not a priority this summer.


 

 

12 Apr 2024 13:18:08
Hi Eds,

Who do you see being sold in the summer?

Salah to Saudi for hig money
Diaz because he's tweaking for Barca

Do you see Nunez being soldnas he's diabolical in front on goal?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps something like this:
Marcelo Pitaluga (G) Needs to consider his future or bide his time at Liverpool. Struggling in the League of Ireland.
Caoimhín Kelleher (G) Decision time for the player and Wolves may try to tempt him after some scouting. Celtic have spoken with his representative.
Vitezslav Jaros (G) Having a good loan at Sturm Graz and perhaps an option to take over as number two but he may want more game time.
Adrian (G) Out of contract in the summer and will depart.
Anderson Arroyo (RB) Time to move on. Zero chance at Liverpool after seven loans in five years.
Trent Alexander-Arnold (RB/RWB/RM) Seen by Real Madrid as an option to Reece James. May offer an exchange for Rodrygo Goes or could try and persuade the player's agent to have their client run down his contract.
Kostas Tsimikas (LB) Agent previously said he was being forced out of the club to raise €20M or more. Since then it has been quiet and I am not aware of any approaches.
Nat Phillips (CB) Time to move on come the summer.
Sepp van den Berg (CB) He won't get a chance at Liverpool and will likely be sold in the summer to taise funds - could be a mistake by the club. There is no option to buy for Mainz.
Billy Koumetio (CB) Seemingly not worked out. Basel may offer a route away from Liverpool.
Joel Matip (CB) Time has come in my view and Besiktas would like to take him but his agent suggests he will be offered a contract extension. Saudi PL may offer a solution.
Joe Gomez (CB) Agent is talking to Michael Emanalo but I doubt Liverpool will want anymore HG players to leave.
Virgil van Dijk (CB) I am told that van Dijk's agents have said that had approaches from both Real Madrid and Barcelona. Real Madrid see VvD as a low cost solution in terms of transfer fee but need to make space in the wage structure. Barcelona offer an option but will need to agree sales first. At this point in time it will be very general enquiries only and I doubt either club will move for him.
Rhys Williams (CB) Will need to find a new home which will likely mean dropping down a tier.
Bobby Clark (CM) Loan possible.
Curtis Jones (CM) Getting more game time. Liverpool will not sell.
Thiago Alcantara (CM) His representatives have spoken to Barcelona about the player finishing his career back at the club but he would need to have reduced wages. Seems unlikely. Galatasaray or Flamengo may offer an option - else it will need to be the ME. Out of contract.
Fabio Carvalho (AM/LW) Available.
Kaide Gordan (W) At the behest of his agent Birmingham City have again asked for a loan, perhaps with an option to buy. Seems to have no future at Liverpool and such a move would be good for the player.
Mateusz Musialowski (RW) Out of contract in the summer. Another Liverpool player that Birmingham has an interest in. Basel and Leeds offer options.
Diogo Jota (LW) With the addition of Gakpo and Diaz performing well, Jota may just be sacrificed to bring in much needed funds. I am not aware of any interest just yet but JM will be looking for suiters. I am not aware of any approach from Newcastle and whilst his father speaks of Barcelona, such a move seems very unlikely give there other plans.
Luis Diaz (LW) Could be surplus. His agent already has one player in the Saudi league and has been offering another high profile player he has - so he may well be looking at Diaz as well given Liverpool are well stocked in the position. Al-Hillal may offer a solution. Liverpool will likely resist a deal but could look to a deal with Barcelona if they are serious about Raphinha. Using him in part exchange for another may be possible. Thoughts that PSG want him as an Mbappe replacement seem wide of the mark to me given they have very clear targets already, but his agent has approached PSG - but no more than that. Father says he wants to move to Spain.
Mo Salah (RW) His agent is hawking him around for one last big payday - Saudi Pro League with the support of Michael Emenalo would certainly seem the most likely destination with Al-Ittihad. Liverpool will look to try and do something to have him extend but his agent will look for a significant increase in salary.


1.) 13 Apr 2024 16:21:05
I wonder how big a clear-out will happen once Klopp and his alleged loyalty to certain players is gone.


2.) 13 Apr 2024 15:29:01
Wow thanks Ed002.

So Allison, Mac Allister and Nunez are staying ?.


3.) 13 Apr 2024 21:26:23
Strange Gordon seen as having no future. Been injured for two years so can't be unhappy about game time. back building his fitness with the 21's and doing well, scored a cracker against Utd lastnight.


4.) 13 Apr 2024 18:45:21
Seen a rumour linking us with Inacio, Edwards and Grimaldo, any likeliness of these coming off.

{Ed002's Note - Goncalo Inacio (CB) Watched by scouts from a number of PL sides, including Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United, with each declaring an interest. Sporting will not be keen to do business with Liverpool although the club could potentially arrange to pay his full Release Clause in a single payment and force the situation if the player is interested - and that seems a strong possibility. The other sides to declare an interest are Newcastle and PSG, but PSG have a plan over another player but it is looking unlikely he will join - so Inacio might become the focus. Real Madrid offer a wildcard option. Sporting would rather not sell and are looking to a further new contract and an increased release clause. Newcastle have held talks with Sporting in order to be able to speak directly to the player and to understand if there is flexibility in the payment schedule – but there isn't. Arsenal interest would have departed with the signing of Timber although it has returned with the injury to Timber and impending departures. They are actively seeking talks with Sporting. The player has also been offered to Chelsea by his agent when discussing another player, but they have preferred options for a long-term Silva replacement although do have an interest in Inacio's CB partner Diomande. Arsenal have made a tentative offer that has been rejected. The player's agent has also said that Inacio is open to a move to Manchester United and they may push depending on departures.
Alejandro Grimaldo (LWB) No intention of leaving Bayer Leverkusen having rejected Manchester City and Leeds. Bayern Munich have the player on a short list of options to replace Alphonso Davies.
Marcus Edwards (RW/AM) Spurs would like to re-sign the player they let leave for Guimaraes and there is interest from West Ham, but that will go nowhere. Crystal Palace have a declared interest. Discussed with Chelsea on an informal basis and on the list of RW/AM players Chelsea need - but they have a preferred options. Could prove a suitable Salah replacement for Liverpool but Sporting may still have no interest in dealing with Liverpool and they have preferred options, but with a change of coach that may change. Manchester United see him as a potential addition and have declared an interest - but much will depend on what happens in the summer with the coach. Sporting has no interest in selling and would demand his full release clause in a single payment.}


5.) 14 Apr 2024 11:37:21
Ed, you think Musialowski won't be offered to stay, or is he wanting to leave? I thought he was very highly thought of.

I'd personally prefer Jota over Gakpo, I just think he's a much better finisher. Although he gets injured quite a bit. Gakpo seems quite good with injuries.

{Ed002's Note - I am told that Mateusz Musialowski is very well thought of but as we stand right now he is out of contract in the summer and not getting game time.}


6.) 14 Apr 2024 13:06:41
He seemed to not grow up and head down, I hope it works out for him somewhere as looked talented at a young age.


 

 

 

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22 Jul 2024 16:35:50
Eds What's your opinion on Liverpool's transfer window? Do you genuinely believe that Slot wants to evaluate all his players during pre-season before making signings, or is Richard Hughes not as competent as we were led to believe? Or have the owners simply not provided enough funds for new signings and are spinning PR?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Slot doesn't make the signings but he will want to have a look at players.}


1.) 22 Jul 2024 18:17:19
Are we really now at the stage where we have start doubting the words of a manager who has officially been in post less than 8 weeks? I mean if you think Slot is some sort of elaborate FSG stooge I don’t really know where you go from there!


2.) 22 Jul 2024 18:40:42
Biggest waste of money will be if we sign players who the manager doesn’t need and won’t play.

A bloated squad is often difficult to manage.

I think we need a few signings to freshen things up but not more than that.

There’s hardly been any transfer movement across the leagues. There’s plenty of time.


3.) 22 Jul 2024 18:52:51
The squad we currently have with, basically, the exception of the departed Matip, finished third in the PL last season. It actually doesn’t need a lot of fixing. Time for a bit of calm reflection.


4.) 22 Jul 2024 19:14:49
I love how folk are losing their minds on transfers because United have chucked £50m at an 18 year old with no PL experience and Arsenal are/ have chucked £40m at an Italian defender (not sure I've seen any successful Italian defenders over here) . I think some of us need to calm down a bit, I'd rather get the right players in TBH.

{Ed025's Note - i get that Johnny but even so it can be a little frustrating i feel when nothing seems to be happening mate, for me i would like the club to give a bit of an update even if its just that they have irons in the fire, no need to mention names just that they are considering their options and that Slot would be backed by the club in this transfer window, it would certainly put the supporters at ease ....and make our job a lot easier.. :)


5.) 22 Jul 2024 19:26:52
It's rare a team signs a player the manager doesn't want. The vast majority of teams around Europe operate on a model where the manager will say what he needs - for example a high energy pressing centre forward. The club and scouting team will then give him a list of x number of players who fit the profile and the manager will say which he prefers.

That seems to be the model we have now as well. It's always been rare managers control transfers. Only here in prem was that normal.

Managers don't expect to be at a club for 5 or 6 years and so plan short term. so managers are more likely to sign a 31 year old who will give instant results. clubs have to plan long term which is whthis model exists in the first place.


6.) 22 Jul 2024 19:47:10
Us and Fulham are the only 2 in the league not to bring anyone in. There’s loads of time but we need to strengthen and quite a bit. Our squad is miles off City’s or even what our own was 5 years ago.


7.) 22 Jul 2024 20:47:55
Nevada, Daniel levy has signed two players in Steven Begwijn and Jed Spence, both players that Jose and Conte did not want so this does happen esp. if you go all around Europe.

That being said, this is the same thing that happens all the time with some of our fans. They keep looking at what we do thru the prism of what other clubs do. That's just a recipe for disaster and conspiracy theories IMO, none of which are any a benefit to anyone. Not me, at least.

Clubs handle their business the way they see fit and esp. since transfers are very unpredictable and no matter what it looks like, there is nothing guaranteed. Just ask Spurs who a decade ago had Willian doing a medical and then boom, Chelsea made a bigger offer and he left the treatment table to sign for them. The club is doing the job they are doing and cos they are not giving us a blow by blow account in the media (That's Utd's wheel house, btw) does not mean nothing is being done. in fact, Ed02 has said repeatedly that the club are working on targets so we do know what they are doing.


8.) 22 Jul 2024 21:09:50
We are waiting to buy a few of the City squad for pennies when they get busted down to National League North.


 

 

20 Sep 2020 23:21:16
Ed's, if liverpool successfully sell their deadwood I. e origi, wilson, karius, grujic, do you then see them bringing in another signing?

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - I had no idea Liverpool had deadwood to sell, but no doubt the payers seen as World Class by Liverpool fans are now Dead Wood. I am not the best person to ask about this.}


1.) 21 Sep 2020 01:58:19
Origi and deadwood are not two words that go together for me. Unless he's watching hbo.


2.) 21 Sep 2020 02:00:00
Personally I don't see us bringing anybody else in and I'm fine with that, I think overall we've had a great transfer window.


3.) 21 Sep 2020 03:49:12
Your post is deadwood!


4.) 21 Sep 2020 05:18:52
Describing Liverpool players, any players as Deadwood, should be an automatic red card. Imo.


5.) 21 Sep 2020 07:59:50
Deadwood? Show some class. Any of the players you've named have already achieved more in their young lives then you ever likely will. No wonder the eds are getting feed up with that sort of rubbish.


6.) 21 Sep 2020 08:01:24
There are very obviously some new posters on this site. Can I please urge LFC posters to refrain from using the "Deadwood" description. We have an unwritten agreement between long standing members of this site to not use that term.
Not having a dig but we need to remain respectful please.


7.) 21 Sep 2020 08:56:32
Iamnoonoo, Deadwood? You prolly want to keep that reprehensible word out of your vocabulary whenever you post here again. Sorry, we don't use such despicable names on our players on this site, regardless of how good or bad they are. Maybe you are new here BUT for future reference, we DON'T use that word here. Show some respect.


 

 

09 Aug 2020 23:26:49
Ed's you keep mentioning liverpool needing HG players but I don't see it. In a 25 man registered squad and 8 needing to be homegrown and unlimited u21 players

Milner
Hendo
Ox
Gomez
Trent
Williams
Elliot.

Iamnoonoo

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, you seem to not understand. I have explained it elsewhere.}


1.) 10 Aug 2020 00:49:47
25 minus 8 means maximum 17 non-homegrown so if a club is finishing a transfer window with 20 non-homegrown then they couldn't register 3 of them. might have to sell cheaper in such a scenario and it's a waste for any player of they couldn't play for months (maybe loaned out I suppose but not ideal) .


2.) 10 Aug 2020 07:42:09
It’s not about how many home-grown you have, it’s only based how many foreign players you can register (max 17). You could In theory have zero HG players if you only registered a 17 player squad.

It should be called the ‘foreign player rule’ as there seems to be a lot of confusion over how it works, with everyone assuming you need at least 8 HG (not true) .


3.) 10 Aug 2020 09:14:42
Hi SG Red, if foreigners spend enough years in a British academy before they are 21 (I think 21 anyway, maybe younger) then they qualify as homegrown as well so it's not a nationality thing, it's giving academy players a chance.


4.) 10 Aug 2020 10:13:51
Do we really have issues around the HG quota though? If Tsimikas signs, I make 15 non-HG players, if I haven't missed anyone. And if we add the HG players to the squad (TAA, Milner, Gomez, Hendo, Ox) the we have 20. Add the youngsters of Williams, Jones, Kelleher, Elliot, Brewster) and we have 25. It's tight sure, but is this something we need to worry about over the next couple of seasons rather than the upcoming one?

{Ed001's Note - you have missed a couple, we have 17 in the first team squad, which is why we need to get rid of some or loan them out.}


5.) 10 Aug 2020 13:43:33
I am quite disappointed in Tsmikas over Lewis not for his ability but because we are walking a tight rope in terms of the home grown quota and Lewis would have helped towards that immensely, using a spot on a back up full back seems a bit of a waste.


6.) 10 Aug 2020 16:25:01
Fair point Sean - was meaning ‘foreign player’ as in someone not coming through the UK junior system, not a foreigner per se.


7.) 10 Aug 2020 22:50:09
No worries SG I think we are all learning more about this stuff from what we read here day by day. I hope some clubs come in for some of those like Grujic and Shaq as I don't see them getting minutes so better for the club and the players if they started afresh somewhere else. Same goes for the odd homegrown player like I think we have enough midfielders that Harry Wilson would hardly kick a ball if he stays so better for the club if we could sell him and better for the player to move on and kick start his career somewhere else.


 

 

21 Aug 2017 05:51:47
Eds, what's your views on Michael Edwards? DoF who hasn't landed any primary targets, and can't sell surplus players, i. e Sakho, Salah.

Iamnoonoo

{Ed001's Note - impossible to say really. What kind of discretionary power does he have at his disposal? Are the sale prices set by him or given to him and he has to find someone to take the players at that price? Does he have the power to scrape up the money or approve the add ons required to complete a deal for an incoming player? For instance, in Keita's case, has he been told this is how much you can offer and that's it? Or does he get told this is the overall budget, you have to allocate it as you see fit? Or perhaps even is he given the power to decide exactly what terms and package is offered with no oversight from the club?

I have a feeling he does not have much in the way of discretionary power, or we would, at the very least, have offloaded a few to clear the wages.}


1.) 21 Aug 2017 06:07:29
Ed001 who do you think is calling the shots on this one then? Would this come under Peter Moores remit?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate. No one wants to talk about this stuff as it is above the pay grade of the people I know.}


2.) 21 Aug 2017 06:26:25
I think Edwards should be given until the end of the transfer window before any speculation on his performance. We might still get VVD and Keita and sell Sakho and Markovich.


3.) 21 Aug 2017 08:05:27
Mr Mike "Net Present Value" Gordon will be setting the parameters of the deals.


4.) 21 Aug 2017 08:05:27
Mr Mike "Net Present Value" Gordon will be setting the parameters of the deals.


5.) 21 Aug 2017 08:10:04
Really interesting first comment Eds and spot on. Everything you mentioned regarding who has the power I always thought was the owners remit. From what I've read on here from either yourself or ed 02 suggests the owners have nothing to do with tranfers or budgets. I think we all know we have a major flaw at the club when it comes to doing any kind of transfer be it in or out. There's 10 days to go in the window so who knows what is going to happen. Keep up the great work.


 

 

24 Jun 2017 10:10:38
Eds, surely the rumours about mbappe have to be nonsense, not just for Liverpool's sake but 100m + for a player who's had one season considering you have the likes of lacazette and aubameyang available for 50-60.

Iamnoonoo

{Ed025's Note - i know mate its getting ridiculous now..


1.) 24 Jun 2017 10:27:26
I think it has been made clear over and over again that Mbappe to Liverpool will not happen. Arsenal in talks with Lacazette. Aubameyang has his eyes set on Madrid and a massive pay day.

Rule out all three players.


2.) 24 Jun 2017 10:36:45
Mbappe is very young and very, very special. All eyes were on him during the champions league and he was excellent, did not crack under pressure. You pay 100 mill for him now, and he improves?, in 2 years time he will be worth double! I do not see that being the case for lacazette and auba. So business wise, it does make sense.


3.) 24 Jun 2017 10:43:57
If Aubameyang has his heart set on Madrid it doesn't mean he will end up there, they've got to want him too. I had my heart set on playing for Liverpool when I was younger. still do at 32 but doesn't mean Liverpool want me. Not saying we will get him just that he's not guaranteed to end up at Madrid.


4.) 24 Jun 2017 10:58:33
Have you seen Mbappe? Watch him again, not just YouTube highlights but repeats of games. Watch again and remind yourself he is 18. He tore up the biggest club competition he doesn't just score he is amazing with the ball at his feet.
£100m is ridiculous but it's the way things are going. Pogba is not a game changer like a striker can be but he was £90m. Defenders are now going arbitration £50-£70m if Walker and Saints get VVD sale. £100m is going to happen.
You cannot predict the future of course but if you could sign Ronaldinho, Ronaldo or Messi today at 18 for £100m you would. Mbappe could easily become as important as they were/ are.

{Ed002's Note - He will fit right in when he gets to Madrid no doubt.}


5.) 24 Jun 2017 11:26:54
He'll be good enough to fully replace Ronaldo Ed, he looks good enough already without years of games and experience.


6.) 24 Jun 2017 20:43:55
I feel it's a great shame because Mbappe is a player with a ready-made song written by those rock legends Hanson.


 

 

 

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