Liverpool Discussion posts

05 May 2024 18:32:48
Just wondering more than a question, as I know its not one, anybody can really answer except the people involved.

But I was wondering why Klopp changed the way we played after using the same way for years. Its been said Ljinders has influenced the way we play now, but why?

Surely you stick with what you know. Buvac left, but surely the rest of the backroom staff always had the team playing high pressing, high intensity game. so why change?

Again just wondering really, but a lot has been said about Ljinders, but Klopp doesn't seem like somebody who can be changed or told what to do, if he doesn't want to. Is Ljinders a wizard? ;)

05 May 2024 20:32:39
Buvac left just before our first CL final in 2018, which was immediately followed by a promotion of Ljinders to assistant manager. Whatever we may like to believe now, Ljinders played a very important role in our success. If it's his possession heavy style that is causing us problems right now, then it was exactly this paired with the initial high pressing style that resulted in our best ever team of the past 30 years during the 2018-pre C.V. era. In fact, I think our 21-22 team was even better attacking wise, but once Salah regressed from the leading Ballon D'Or candidate to 'just' a very good player post Afcon that season, we just couldn't replicate our first half form into the second season. No Afcon that season, and we probably win the Quadruple. So I believe Klopp clearly saw that Ljinders' inputs were helping us achieve success, and one of the reasons he may have let him have more power.

05 May 2024 10:13:16
A few questions for the Eds.

If either Alisson or Kelleher were to leave is there any interest in Kaminski (Luton) and do you think they will look for a veteran keeper to replace Adrian?

LB Tsimikas is likely to be gone (general opinion) leaving Robertson, Gomez (who looks much better at LB than RB and Beck?. Is Ryan Ait-Nouri (Wolves) of interest.

RB Trent, Bradley and Gomez, look to have this covered between them (my opinion). Depending on what Slot wants to do with Trent. Should he decide he's a midfielder I wouldn't be shocked if the club looked for a veteran to allow Bradley to still get opportunities.

RCB Konate, Gomez, Quansah - Gomez's versatility is a great asset and should not be underestimated - he even looked comfortable at DM when asked this season

LCB VVD, Quansah, new signing. Quansah is Virgil's long term replacement in my opinion. He has played LCB when Virgil was rested this season. Konate-Quansah is most likely the long term plan IF Ibou can stay fit. The club either spend big here or look for another versatile squad player. If Slot has interest in playing 3 at the back a top notch CB is required, perhaps with VVD sweeping up or playing a Beckenbauer type role.

DM Endo, Bajcetic and a new signing. LFC have several players who could do a job if needed (Trent, Gomez, McConnell, Morton, Jones, McCallister Szoboslai etc) but getting a top quality DCM remains a priority.

RM Szoboslai, Trent, Elliott, Gravenberch, Jones, Clark

LM McCallister, Jones, Gravenberch possibly Diaz or Gakpo maybe Carvalho

The '10' if Slot employs a 4231 on occasions he has some really good options in McCallister, Szoboslai, Trent, Elliott, Carvalho and Bobby Clark and it may even be a position that works for Gakpo, Jota, Diaz or even Salah - it's a position Klopp has not really utilised but the squad is stacked with options.

RF Salah, Elliott, Szoboslai, Bradley, Trent, Diaz, Doak - a position that needs someone to step up to fill Mo's boots. Personally, I think Johan Bakayoko will be brought in as the clubs biggest Summer signing

LF Diaz, Nunez, Gakpo, Jota, Lewis Koumas

CF Nunez, Gakpo, Jota, Salah, Danns


So I think LFC will sign

RF Bakayoko 60M+
DCM Manu Kone 50M
CB that can cover at either RB or LB Hincapie? 40-50M
LB if Tsimikas goes approx 20M
GK if Ali or Kveev go then 20-30m on a back up? Probably makes more sense to hold onto both and get a veteran on a free

Spend approx 150-200M

Outgoings (possible)

Tsimikas 10M
A few younger players 5-10M total
Carvalho 25-30M?
Kelleher 30M+?

Thiago and Matip will leave on free transfers, maybe Joel gets offered a pay as you play type deal if Slot can't get what he wants/needs

Then there may be the need to make a big sale to offset the incomings. The most likely look to be either Salah 80m+ or Trent if he wants out for 120m+ or possibly VVD for 40m. I think it's unlikely there will be a major clearout or a glut of arrivals.

I'm interested in what the eds and others think and what they would do differently if they were in charge.

05 May 2024 12:35:44
Konate is a liability and will never be a solid defender it’s actually a blessing when he is injured which is most of the time thankfully.

04 May 2024 13:17:51
According to all the gossip we will have 4 managers next season and both goalkeepers are leaving plus virgil, trent and Connor remember it is just tabloid crap.

04 May 2024 23:33:06
Isn't Slot done and dusted? Kinda strange that the media would be continuing to speculate about our future manager.

03 May 2024 10:02:10
I've just seen a post on twitter claiming Andy Cole was only caught offside 24 times during his whole career?

That's an insane record if true and what a player, would of loved us to get him before the mancs.

03 May 2024 10:18:21
Really? Cole was decent but played for a great team. We had Robbie at the time who whilst playing for a not very good team was way better than Cole. I'd even say that Cole wasn't as good as Ferdinand who more or less replaced him at Newcastle.

03 May 2024 15:15:09
Jeez. Nunez is offside 24 times in a game.

03 May 2024 17:57:42
Personally I doubt that anyone was counting offside stats in 1993, they probably weren’t even counting them in 2003.

03 May 2024 18:09:18
Didn't Cole score more non penalty goals than Shearer?

Fowler would've destroyed the lot of them if he stayed injury free though.

03 May 2024 22:16:34
Cole scored one penalty the rest from open play. Id have loved to sign him over collymore but not sure how we would of played with god. I'm sure they'd have worked it out.

03 May 2024 22:43:42
No VAR in those days.

04 May 2024 00:12:58
Cole and Fowler could have worked because Fowler was a brilliant footballer, his first touch was exceptional and he had vision of what was going on around him. He was miles better than Owen.

04 May 2024 02:42:40
About right VV, I bloody loved Fowler mate, what a player. Incredible. I must admit, I do miss them days.

04 May 2024 15:28:59
Pity Collymore had his problems, had such talent. Think Ferdinand would have been a great partner for Robbie back in the day.

02 May 2024 22:23:46
One thing ticked off - UCL is a cert next season.

It’s not the Premiership, but puts us in the best place to attract the players to win it next season 👍.

03 May 2024 03:43:25
where's the fullah that was adamant we were going to be in a battle for 4th
*crickets*.

03 May 2024 15:16:28
That was Neggy. He was also adamant that Klopp was a spent force and that Arsenal would finish above us. Oh wait.

03 May 2024 18:38:38
Never fear, I am always lurking waiting to lay some cold hard truths about our beloved team.
Whilst I am certain Arsenal will do better than us again and klopp is off, my mind doesn't compute that I got the top ten prediction incorrect.
Obviously I am over the Moon to be higher up the league but I was convinced we'd be doing a Chelsea.

04 May 2024 02:47:02
What I love about you Walter my friend is how you make people believe you. It's hilarious. You make them bite, reel them in mate, keep going.

I hope you are well Walter.

Just to fuel the fire, what do you think to our incoming manager? how do you feel next season will go? :) .

You take care mate.

04 May 2024 17:38:21
Hey Salah all good I guess. Hope life is treating you kindly. I am actually really excited about slot coming in.
I think I am more excited about slot than when klopp came.
For me if he gets a team without Salah Trent Diaz Jones and with suitable replacements there's no reason he can't get 2nd_4th in his 1st season.
I guess the trick is like all teams to get the right players for the squad and use them at the right times.
Only drawback about Slot is apparently he plays players out of position so I hope that's kept to a minimum.

02 May 2024 18:12:07
Im going to get pelters for saying this, but im not arsed about watching the remaining 3 games. Not even the last game for JK at Anfield. As there's nowt riding on these games now it's all very flat.

We will finish top 4, probably 3rd maybe 4th if the last 3 games go badly. So CL football will be back next season and we've won the league Cup.

I think the timing of the announcement was a mistake, unless there was real concern of a big leak its not done anything other than distract I don't think. And to have a 10 minuet video was all very Hollywood and perhaps for the benefit of the up coming documentary. I don't recall SAF doing that at United or Jose at Chelsea after winning far more than JK has. It just smacked of a show and for me has really detracted from the end of the season. Its something that could have been done now and not had this prolonged good bye feel to it.

The fact that 8 weeks ago we were on for a quadruple and that has collapsed in to nothing hasn't helped. Well I say nothing that's harsh, after last season and the departures we had, the players that turned us down and the players we got in if you would have said. 3 rd place and the league Cup im sure we would have taken it. But its all very flat and im not sure it will get better. Its a case of thanks for the memories JK.

I've had 3 months to get used to it and im a bit meh about it all now and just looking foward to seeing what Slot brings. Season can't finish fast enough for me, its been a horrible end . Not fussed about the bore fest that will be the Euros with England playing Southgateball, so roll no next season.

02 May 2024 22:00:24
OP - said like a true loyal supporter.

03 May 2024 03:44:13
Kimu - I rekon lots of people probably feel this way. perhaps you can spend the time you are getting back to reflect on why you're a fan. for the club or is it for the glory?

03 May 2024 04:33:02
I don’t understand this sort of mentality, what sort of Liverpool supporter are you? I want Liverpool to win every single game they play regardless of what’s on the line. If that’s not your same thought process honestly what are you doing here?

03 May 2024 11:18:29
Gotta watch the games. I'm always interested to see which players play better when the team is in a tough spot.

Hoping Macca and Trent step it up in this time. I'm hoping they are our future leaders and I d like to see them take ownership of this team performance.

03 May 2024 13:53:08
Maybe take up fishing lad. The fish are not arsed if you don’t turn up for them.

03 May 2024 15:27:23
I’ll be there on Sunday 💪.

03 May 2024 17:36:29
Don’t care if it’s over or not. We have to win our last three games for our own pride.

03 May 2024 21:02:35
Kimu what are you doing with your tickets lad?

04 May 2024 12:51:27
OP if you’ve got a ticket for Sunday and you don’t want it I’ll buy it off you🔴⚪️🤛.

04 May 2024 15:32:37
Love watching L'pool, had plenty of years where our season was over by january but still watched every game. I'd like to see Danns for instance start thru d middle ahead of Darwin on Sunday and see how he gets on. These are the games to try it.

02 May 2024 11:01:33
Anyone buying the new jersey sign up with Nike and you'll get 25% off. I think the offer ends tomorrow.

02 May 2024 11:31:03
Great tip Endo3 I went and had a look but once I seen that home kit I was put off. Ugly is the word looks like it was designed by the makers of etch a sketch. Would not pay £25 for that travesty. So happy we are going back to adidas.

02 May 2024 14:58:23
Always preferred Adidas myself. Always do good shirts.