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28 Mar 2017 14:20:57

What has been the deal with Joe Gomez, there was talk of bleeding him in and giving him game time, but seems Klopp has been looking to choose anyone but him. Has Klopp stopped to fancy him? Should he look for a loan move? Klopp history at dortmund shows he prefers older, experienced CB.

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28 Mar 2017 14:57:31

He's played a few cup games but he is recovering from a terrible injury.

28 Mar 2017 17:21:25
Lallana is out, brilliant.

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28 Mar 2017 19:15:42
Countinho and Firmino are not home and hosed yet either

I hate international football.

28 Mar 2017 19:42:02
Come on lads- man up 🤠.

28 Mar 2017 17:02:41
Lallana out for 1 month with a thigh injury.


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27 Mar 2017 00:05:28

The supposed marquee signing is a left winger. does that mean The plan is to play Coutinho centrally next season, assuming he stays of course?

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27 Mar 2017 03:09:13

The move to Barcelona is too soon for him now, because Iniesta still has 2-3 years left and it would be hard for him to dethrone him. Not because of talent, but Iniesta status at Barca. If Julian Brandt is our marquee signing, which I think it will be then you have Coutinho moving back into the desired number 10 spot. Why would Coutinho risk going to Barcelona where he won't get as much playing time with the World Cup in one years time.

{Ed001's Note - not because of talent? Iniesta is the best in the world. He has been the main man at Barca because of that. His status is deserved. Iniesta is quality, Coutinho is not at his level yet.}

27 Mar 2017 06:47:40

Just because Brandt is the supposed marquee signing does not mean Coutinho moves back into midfield. If Klopp intends to use Coutinho in a midfield role, then be assured that at least two forwards (including Brandt) will arrive. Klopp's high press system plus extra European games next season means we need at least 5 senior midfielders and forwards each vying for 6 spots in the team. It breeds healthy competition and ensures quality does not drop when injuries and suspensions occur.

27 Mar 2017 07:10:03

when people say coutinho should play centrally, are they suggesting a change of formation and style? or do they mean that coutinho should play centrally in firmino's position? or that he should play centrally in the midfield - i. e., one of lallana or gini position?

27 Mar 2017 07:22:15

Brandt would not qualify as a marquee signing to me, he would be another young left winger to compete with Ojo and Wilson.

Pointless signing.

27 Mar 2017 11:36:30

So Brandt is the supposed marquee signing? Im not sure what has developed or been said since the last Sharopod but were are looking at multiple players including Dembele who would be a bigger signing than Brandt imo.

27 Mar 2017 11:44:12

I mean play in one of the Wiji/ Lallana positions. I think he'd be more effective there dictating play.

27 Mar 2017 12:22:13

Can't agree with you there Ron, Brandt is miles ahead of Ojo and Wilson in his development and will (if he signs) be competing for the LW/ F position with Coutinho (if he's still with us) or will be straight in if Coutinho leaves. Ojo and Wilson are in desperate need of a good, competitive loan where they can play week in week out in a tough League that will get them ready to challenge for the L/ RW/ F positions in the 18/ 19 season.

Personally think he would be a great signing (with or without Coutinho) .

27 Mar 2017 14:59:59

He's another Schürle, he won't settle.

27 Mar 2017 15:51:58

I am not sure that the "marquee" signing will be Brandt but I'm fairly sure that Barcelona will move for Coutinho this summer in order to insure Neymar staying with them. It's just an opinion.

28 Mar 2017 11:12:39

And you know that he won't settle how, Ron? If you can't tell the future then stop this nonsense of just projecting your opinions as fact.

Brandt is way ahead of Ojo and Wilson and that is a verifiable fact. Notice I did not say he was better BUT just further ahead in his development as he is now a German international in a country where the talent pool is relentless. I would welcome him here cos I have seen him player multiple times and he is the real deal potentially even tho he is not world class yet.

28 Mar 2017 14:18:37
The general consensus is that Liverpool is about to have a golden age of youth development, changes initiated in the Academy a decade ago are seeing a steady stream of highly talented players graduate to the senior squads and we have a manager with a reputation for bringing through and developing youth.

There is no doubt that Klopp has involved a large number of youth players in the first team but can any of them be considered squad players let alone starters? Superficially youth players have accumulated a lot of minutes in the first team but, upon reflection, this has clearly not been a case of integrating them with the first team but in resting the first team in non-priority matches. We saw this last season in the league when Klopp focussed on the Europa Cup and we’ve seen it this season in the FA and league Cups. This season, in games that have been taken seriously (i. e. premier league matches) youth players have accumulated just 180 minutes and this includes TAA playing 90 minutes against Utd, the other 90 minutes is spread across 14 individual appearances.

There are a number of explanations for this with the most positive one being that Klopp is protecting his young players. We expect too much from our youth too quickly and when teenagers do appear we tend to overreact. It's quite possible that Klopp is trying to shield these guys from this unnecessary pressure and he'll only introduce them when they're ready.

The next explanation is a practical one, Liverpool will play 47 matches this season, a 25% reduction compared to last year. This has allowed his first team squad to avoid fatigue and play pretty much every game. It’s notable how stable Klopp's team has been, just twice all season has Klopp made a change to the premier league team not enforced by injury (Can and Karius being dropped for Wiji and Migs respectively) . Given the circumstances it may have been hard for Klopp to justify playing youth over first 11 players.

But does Klopp actually rate our youth players? There have been plenty of periods of the season where first 11 players have been picked irregardless of their form. Playing a youth player at these times could have been a very positive thing, it would have encouraged them that there were opportunities whilst preventing first team players from resting on their laurels. The fact that not once has this be done could be a sign that Klopp simply doesn’t think our youth can cut it.

The last explanation is that Klopp’s reputation as a developer of youth players is unjustified. Was Klopp's team in Dortmund built by circumstance or design? Klopp keeps the benefit of the doubt for now but if Wilson, Ojo, Gomez, TAA and the rest continue to be overlooked then we may have to reassess this issue.

Whatever the reasons the situation as we approach the end of the season is that no youth player has broken into the first team or is even a regular substitute under Klopp. How our youth players react to this depends on Klopp's management skills but there's a danger that this latest generation will pass Liverpool by.

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28 Mar 2017 14:15:11
Why don't we own a plane? I don't get why we're always hiring planes and stuff? At the very least our airline sponsors should give us use of a plane when we want one. Also the club asking for volunteers to lay out the Moran mosaic seems wrong to me they should advertise it as a job for the locals where whoever turns up on a first come first served basis get paid the living wage for however long the job takes.

Non league clubs need volunteers and help from the community teams in the PL should be looking to help out the community. Imagine 20 or 30 homeless people are given the chance to earn a few quid so they can eat well for a night or two?

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28 Mar 2017 15:12:14
Why do we need to own a plane?

We'd have to have it regularly maintained, where would we keep it when it's not in use?
Owning a plane is pointless for LFC.

28 Mar 2017 14:14:23
Hi Eds/ Reds,

A post about the future of Jon Flanagan has got me thinking about players of whom lots was expected but it never really materialised.

I know that Flanagan's problems have been almost entirely injury related but who in your opinion are the players of whom most was expected but little delivered (so far)?

I can think of a few recent ones

Jordan Rossiter
Ryan McLaughlin
Jerome Sinclair
Luis Alberto
Jack Robinson
Andre Wisdom

As always opinions are appreciated.

Have a great day everyone, cheers for all your work Eds.

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28 Mar 2017 14:24:57
Add Suso Dunn and texiera plus the likes of Adam Morgan and Connor coady.

28 Mar 2017 14:21:05
Thought this would be quite a good topic of discussion for Banter Eds? Not getting lost in the "Others" page. ahh well.

{Ed002's Note - I don't think so - you are simply asking for people to list the Liverpool players who aren't good enough.}

28 Mar 2017 14:43:07
Andre Wisdom reminds me of a mini Sakho, looks so cleffy and uncomfortable on the ball, even though he's probably not.

28 Mar 2017 15:13:05
Llori 😇.

28 Mar 2017 15:22:22
Adam Morgan is a good one. So much was expected from him but from what i heard his attitude was a problem. Seems to be doing well in the lower leagues though now, good to see he has stayed in football.

28 Mar 2017 15:20:57
That was actually what I was trying to avoid if i'm honest Ed002.

I was more interested in players that are over hyped and perhaps suffer from that as the fans expect instant results from kids.

27 Mar 2017 18:40:02

What's Harry's new user name folks? I have an inclining but not 100%.

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27 Mar 2017 19:22:09

*My name is Lorenzo Insigne*

i think.

27 Mar 2017 20:36:38

Strepsils? Soothers? Erm, err, oh! Lozenge!

{Ed033's Note - My name is... Slim Shady

27 Mar 2017 21:33:06

I am Lorenzo Insigne and no one else. I play for Napoli and a Liverpool fan in England. I am Europe's most wanted Left winger.

27 Mar 2017 21:53:10

Keyser Sose.

27 Mar 2017 22:24:56

Tyler Durden.

27 Mar 2017 23:05:50

Bozo Texino.

28 Mar 2017 10:24:55

Yep, that's a Harry-type post right there. I knew Insigne was Harry the whole time. The tone of his posts are easily recognisable.

28 Mar 2017 00:48:20

With all the rumours around regarding Coutinio, do you think that maybe Klopp wouldn't mind selling him as his creative play is good but the defensive side of his game is not that good. eg tracking back and closing down compared to Firminio who seems tailor made for Klopp.

If Coutinio wasn't a current LFC player would Klopp sign him as a no. 1 target? I don't think he would which makes me think he maybe on his way come summer or next Jan.

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28 Mar 2017 03:00:49

Why can't posters spell any of our players' names correctly? Honest question.

28 Mar 2017 06:41:01

You don't sell coutinho if you want a successful year next season. You add to him. Give him the best tools to exploit his best and to take all the opp focus off him.

28 Mar 2017 15:10:57
He probably wouldn't sign him cos he'd cost 60 mil+! There's probably half the team he wouldn't have signed ( and didn't) you can't really think like that. His job is to get the best out of what he's got and add to improve them. Couthino is the type of player you build around. Barcelona are looking to do that with him if he succeeds iniesta whereas half our fans think he's not good enough for us and we should get rid. ( go figure)

28 Mar 2017 00:17:37
Keen to hear your thoughts for a bit of fun.
What are your three priority signings for us in the next window.
I'll get things rolling by saying I'd like us to sign -
CB to partner Matip
Experienced CM
Striker up front.

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28 Mar 2017 00:28:07
Left winger. Only if Wilson or Ojo are deemed not ready, which with the interest in Brandt its looking like.
CB partner for Matip but only if Lovren or Klavan are moved on.
A left back to replace Milner.
A right back to replace Clyne if TAA is deemed not ready.

28 Mar 2017 03:47:18
I think we should buy 3 goalkeepers, and a striker :)

Maths never was my strong point : (.

28 Mar 2017 04:34:51
Reading as well it seems for me :)

28 Mar 2017 06:28:17
GK - number 1 priority, has been for years
LB - haven't had a decent one for a decade

Probably a CM as Lucas will go and Can may go.

28 Mar 2017 11:10:27
I'd probably say a left back is the only glaring weakness in our squad. We are in the top 4 and unbeaten against the top 10 in the league after all! So the team clearly isn't terrible. However I think to be title challengers we also need a better back up keeper than Mignolet (Ward perhaps? ), a better right back than Clyne (Arnold? ), probably a replacement forward for Sturridge (Ings? ) and a more natural left forward so Coutinho can play slightly deeper and dictate the game.

For me though, left back and left wing are the two areas where we do not have any natural options except Moreno and u23's. I noticed the yesterday after reading a post from Zimbo that our first choice starting XI does not have a single left footed player in it!

28 Mar 2017 15:13:54
Goalkeeper is the biggest weakness.


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