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21 May 2017 16:34:41

Ed002. I was reading a blog which mentioned the 5 most likely signings. Could you say if there's any thing in this?



Nabby Keita

Timo Werner

Ryan Sessengon

Andrew Robertson

Van Djikk



I under with VVD that he's a massive price tag and Chelsea and city are also lurking, so who would be the second option to him?

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine please Davies - all of these have been dealt with.}

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21 May 2017 16:55:01

Keita, sessegnon, mertens for me.

21 May 2017 17:27:03

With you Keita and Mertens, but we need a left back capable of playing a full season in the Premier League who's good enough for the Champions League. Sessegnon is a great young talent but he's not there yet. By all means sign him and possibly loan him back or integrate him slowly, but we still need a player that matches the above criteria.

21 May 2017 17:34:53

Mendy would be a great LB.

21 May 2017 17:25:46
Teams we could draw - Sporting Lisbon, Viktoria Plzen, CSKA Moscow, Club Brugge, Steaua Bucharest, Young Boys, Hoffenheim, Nice, Istanbul Basaksehir or Besiktas (probably Istanbul), runners-up in Greece (probably PAOK) .

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21 May 2017 17:31:13
Some tough competition but there's also a decent chance against some of these.

21 May 2017 17:45:34
Just imagine it was Nice, and Mario played a blinder and scored a few to knock us out. That would be sickening.

21 May 2017 16:36:54
Klopp your the best. Just liverpool to the core. Whatever we do all i care about is i will enjoy the ride

Champions league your having a laugh!

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21 May 2017 17:04:19
I felt a sharp pain in the back.

Must of been that knife

Other page. really ed.

Get this moved to the banter page.

Dont send me the scrap heap

Todays about celebrations

Even all es25 team laying down couldn't stop us.

Man u pogba. hahahaha nob eds.

Liverpool let's go boys!

Is it finally arw year next year.

Why the f not!

21 May 2017 17:12:23
How many timea do i need to message to get sent to prime time?

Ita like bbc2 over here ed

Send me to the big time. come on.

Today is a day when no liverpool fan gets upset.

Im feeling teary ed.

{Ed001's Note - I almost, almost feel sorry for you. I am even tempted to send all the other messages, bar yours, to the main page now :-P

21 May 2017 17:25:42
Ed there a time in every mans life when he has to stand up and say enough.

No man will be on the other page

I will not send the liverpool. boys to the dogs cage.

Todays about celebration.

F chelsea.

For us as a club its our day and klopp and the boys have the steps to get the holy grail.

I know liverpool will win the league next year. I see it, feel it, taste it ed. Its ours.

There is no beer encouraging my mind.

Coutinho is the fking bomb. A few addituons and these chelsea celebrations are ours.

And then chelsea can watch and see how you are meant to celebrate the premier league

CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB WHERE COMING FOR YOU!

{Ed001's Note - hahaha you seem like you are enjoying this page mate!}

21 May 2017 17:39:50
Ed001.

Number 1.

This is it. Your choice. Your moment. 90 thousand fans watching. Through on goal do you move me or leave me.

This is it.

Never leave a man behind. is all i have left to say!

YNWA?

{Ed001's Note - the problem is I don't have the power to move it, but it is fun to see you suffer!}

21 May 2017 16:36:02
Congratz br.

I still love ya. Even though you banged on about character way too much.

O loses was in the eyes of many the only way your tenure up there could be counted aa a success.

You smashed it out the park blud.

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21 May 2017 15:53:23
who's playing like the relegated team guys?

{Ed001's Note - Everton?}

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21 May 2017 16:01:18
Nice one Ed1 and LFC until they scored.

{Ed001's Note - you might want to try changing channel, as a relegated team getting over 80% possession is just talking crap.}

21 May 2017 12:40:28
So latest news making the rounds is that Alexandre Lacazette has agreed to join Atletico Madrid from Lyon subject to their transfer ban being lifted.

Lacazette was not going to join Liverpool anyway. Now many can finally scratch him off the list.

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21 May 2017 13:46:50
Shame we didn't look at him as a replacement for Sturridge. Once again we don't look at top talent and will probably over pay for some substandard British players.

21 May 2017 14:53:33
Mr Dennis, when had Klopp done that?

21 May 2017 10:35:15
Boro to score first and Liverpool to win 3-1.

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21 May 2017 11:31:39
4-0 sturridge hatrick and one for couts.

22 May 2017 09:56:40
A nervy 1st half settled by a Gini goal in the dying seconds.

Samba football in the second half, shooting for fun but Guzan being a rock. Couts to score with a free kick and Lallana to finally get a reward for his efforts.

;)

20 May 2017 20:36:54
I think we must give klopp credit he has net spend of zero and bought well last summer plus were on the brink of top four all in his first full season as manager. Lots to be positive with going forword. YNWA.

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21 May 2017 07:14:46
If it really is a Net spend of zero, the owners deserve credit. Surely this is the result of their policy to buy players who will increase in value?

21 May 2017 11:17:24
Your not seriously giving FSG credit for something on THIS website are you!?!?!
Prepare for a childish backlash my friend! 😂.

21 May 2017 12:22:59
More so of klopps signing for example Matip for free that's nothing got to do with FSG klopp certainly has an eye for a player. YNWA.

{Ed002's Note - He wasn't for free - Liverpool paid a very significant signing on fee to the player.}

21 May 2017 13:17:11
Do you think the top clubs care about net spend while they are winning things?

18 May 2017 22:42:46

What's everyone's views on retrospective action against simulation/ cheating next season, positive step I think, hope it works.

Which team will top the cheats league as a supplemental question.

{Ed025's Note - i think it a good move myself MN and as a guess i would say man city will be the biggest culprit mate..

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19 May 2017 00:44:08

I think it's a serious move in the right direction. It should have come in to play at the point where it started affecting games, such an obvious, easy fix.



Hard to say who will top it because I think all teams are guilty of it at times. I reckon ed025 is on the money though, city is a good shout. They should bring in a further clause though where Zaha and Sterling exclusively get a 3-match instant ban for every time they hit the deck and scrunch their faces up as if the challenge on them is worthy of a red card. They'd be out for the season after one match. Seriously cooks my swede every weekend.



On a side note, Chelsea in the 15/ 16 season were hard to watch at times, always seemed to be hampering the ref to give out cards as if they were coached to do it by Moanrinho. Glad they stopped all that this season.

19 May 2017 04:20:07

I think it is a great move by the league. The diving has gotten a bit ridiculous over the past season from players. I would also like the league to start punishing teams who have the most offenders of diving, because player suspensions will only do so much. If there are multiple players on the same team or the same player continuing to dive the FA should look at punishing the team.



Such as in the United and Swansea game when Rashford dove and earned that penalty. Let's say if United had gone on to win that game, it could have cost Swansea dearly because they were fighting relegation and that could have been the difference maker for them to stay in the top flight. They should start with heavy fines, to point penalties and transfer bans. If there is a team with depth and is not too bothered with players being suspended for two games because you have a player who can take his place, but are more desperate for the points. Just an opinion.

19 May 2017 05:20:23

I think there's a subtle difference between those that get touched and go down and those that never get touched, or get touched after they're already going down.



I am fine there being two match ban so long as it's applied conservatively (IMO when a player is clearly going down before contact) .

{Ed001's Note - I don't think there is. Players that are not trying to stay on their feet are deliberately going down to try and win a free kick/penalty and get their opponent booked/sent off. It is cheating, just the same as a dive when there is no contact it. I would personally like to see both instances punished, then we would not have to sit through the embarrassment of players flopping to the ground when someone leans on them or breathes too heavily in their general direction. If there was less cheating, then refs would be able to give decisions like penalties and free kicks safe in the knowledge they were not being conned by a cheat. Everyone moans about refs, but the players are the main reason refs are so bad, as it is so difficult for them to tell if a player was fouled or if they are just cheating. As they cheat more than they are genuinely fouled, it is making a difficult job an impossible one.}

19 May 2017 05:54:26

It can only be a good thing and if the decision has to be unanimous then I'm sure we will see very few players punished where there is any element of doubt.

19 May 2017 06:29:51

But action is only taken if it gets a player sent off or wins a penalty so its not really going to fix the problem is it.

19 May 2017 07:20:57

Hi Ed1,



I fully agree with you in principle. I think in some players defence, they feel if they don't hit the ground when they've been legitimately fouled then they won't get the pen. Couts against palace is a good example of pen not given when he stayed on his feet.

{Ed001's Note - but that is exactly my point, because so many cheat, refs are not giving them. If you cut out the cheating, then it would mean refs could give decisions when a player stays on his feet. First they have to stop being cheats.}

19 May 2017 07:29:07

If it's going to work the refs need to have the cohones to give fouls/ penalties/ decisions when a player is fouled but doesn't go down, I. e. Couts v palace. That could of tied 4th/ 3rd up for us already!

If they get that right fine, if not players will continue to go down easily because they don't trust the ref to make the call. Big difference between going down easily and diving IMO and it will just be another source of controversy if the refs don't get it right. How much contact constitutes a foul or a dive? I agree they have a difficult job but they need to get this area right. All this said it definitely a step in the right direction.

19 May 2017 10:15:41

I agree with what people have said above regarding how much contact is enough, and I don't mean morally enough, I mean genuinely only the player running at speed knows if he was knocked off balance. The leaving the leg behind to initiate contact should be stamped out for sure and obviously the blatant no contact dives, beyond that I'd be wary of giving out 2 game bans.

Fundamentally eds 1 is bang on, if they all stopped claiming every throw, corner, free kick, throwing themselves around like clowns when someone looks at the funny, the game would clean its self up. Time for them to start behaving like the adults they're supposed to be.

19 May 2017 10:29:23

It is definitely a move in the right direction, once a couple of players are punished retrospectively then players will start thinking twice about diving.



I do however feel that refs need to step up now and stop bottling decisions and/ or trying to even up the odds if they feel they have made a mistake. I would also like to see refs book a player straight away if its deserved regardless if its in the first few minutes of a game, I have lost count how many times I've seen this happen and it really angers me, it's like players have got a free bad tackle in the first 5 minutes.

19 May 2017 10:37:56

The ideal I agree would be never going down, but we're a long way from that hence why I think it's easier to make the distinction around when the fall starts i. e. before or after contact as that's objective, not subjective.



The ban should hopefully be only very rarely applied and only when obviously a dive to deceive the ref otherwise you risk the potential for bans when players are genuinely fouled and don't deserve them.

19 May 2017 12:35:19

It's a good move and it should be taken one step further. Players don't generally get decisions if they stay on their feet - especially in the box. They would be much more inclined to stay up and try to take the shot if they knew that the ref would still give a penalty if there is no advantage due to the foul.



Hopefully this will put a stop to some of the cheating and gives the refs more confidence.

19 May 2017 13:00:37

Not gone far enough. Why not have a video ref and a representative from each team look at the game and call things back on major incidents ONLY. It would allow for almost immediate action (Send off the offender) the cheats would lose their advantage and other teams would not be penalised. I. E Sanches gets a ban at the end of the season and misses a game where a club needs Arsenal to win to stay up.

19 May 2017 08:25:51

They've tried to address a problem but have went the wrong way about it.

If a players dives, wins a pen and his team win the game what use is that to the team that's been cheated. They've still lost as a direct result of that cheating. Not only that but the player suspended could then be missing for a game against a rival meaning they're doubly punished.

Needs to be a video ref and the offence punished at the time.

19 May 2017 15:18:39

Shocking ruling. Imagine a scenario where Palace have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and City in the last 3 games.



So against Liverpool Zaha dives to win a penalty which is converted and changes the result of our game.



Then, retrospectively Zaha is banned for the games against Arsenal and City granting them a slight advantage due to facing a weekend opposition.



Diving should be reviewed by a video ref on the spot and if the player is guilty, bang, red card. The team he tried to cheat benefits from the decision and not their rivals!



Under this new ruling the victim of the cheating is potentially punished twice!



Why are people applauding a soft attempt at eradicating a major issue. They've papered over the cracks and if anything, made a poor ref decision even more unfair. Go hard or go home. This decision is weak and smacks of desperation from a governing body quickly losing the faith of the fans and the players.

19 May 2017 19:22:01
Welcome back Harry hope you are well.

19 May 2017 22:23:51
MK. I see where you are coming from, but I repectfully disagree. The saying 'hard cases make bad laws' applies to your scenario. The culture needs to be changed and this will help. I do agree that video technology would be a step up, but we are a way away from that yet. This is a reasonable interim step already working in Scotland. Player behaviour needs to change.

20 May 2017 21:51:02
I would have gone with the sin bin for simulation and dissent. No video evidence, purely on the refs view.
10 minutes for first offender
20 minutes for second offender
30 minutes for third offender.
etc
Carries over to next match.

Punishes the team in the same game. Managers would stamp out dissent and simulation. They couldn't afford to lose players.

21 May 2017 18:52:47
How does one apply for the job to be on the panel? Sounds cushy :)

19 May 2017 16:26:48
I appreciate this is not lfc related in the slightest, but I was wondering if Man Utd will be punished for not fielding a proper team at the weekend? I can not for the life of me remember who it was now but I think it was against Utd, some one fielded a weakened team because they just wrote that game off to concentrate on a midweeek game which they felt they had more chance of winning. I don't know whether the rules changed but it strikes me as the same situation. Probably one for eds 2 as he's pretty good on the rules.

{Ed002's Note - Certainly I recall Wolves and Blackpool being fined. There are no doubt others. The rules are clear that they can play anyone from their 25 man squad and playing a couple of younger players on top of fringe players would not be an issue. If it goes further than that they will be fined.}

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