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24 May 2017 18:04:18

Weird how Chelsea have got away with match fixing. That bloke who ate the pie got banned didn't he? Fixing an event in the match when it's been admitted so freely must be quite the punishment.

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24 May 2017 18:55:23

The problem is it's an issue with morals and integrity which the game struggles with at the best of times, add to that we're talking about John Terry who has neither and it's no surprise.

24 May 2017 19:22:35

Joey Barton got away with it for years.

24 May 2017 21:43:36

Totally, totally agree. It's a principle and a precedent that has now been set. No matter the reason for it, that simply cannot be allowed to happen. It's one thing a Chelsea player knocking the ball out, it's even worse when the other team does it. He could at least have pretended to be injured and hence they kicked it out to allow treatment. The fa have been made to look like mugs.

24 May 2017 21:57:20

I think you're confusing match-fixing with betting-fixing. Terry's send off in no way affected the result of the match.



The fat pie guy situation was different in the sense that he heard of the bet and then decided to follow through in order to help his friends earn a few quid. Whereas Terry's send off was planned before the odds were set by the bookies. The fact that betting companies decided to set odds for the event is down to them and in no way did Terry or Chelsea decide to do it because of the bet.

The PL are investigating to see whether any irregular bets were placed to see whether his send off was leaked. Until rheyve come to a conclusion, your comment is rank speculation and indicative of your rather limited biased view.

24 May 2017 23:15:30

Spot on fuser. That said it was ill concieved and disrespectful to e competition.

24 May 2017 23:21:02

How do you know? How do you know that if the keeper had tried to find one of his team mates it definitely wouldn't have led to a goal? You don't and neither do I, that's the point, when you start predetirminating something like this the match is altered.

25 May 2017 01:08:07

Part of the problem is they make odds for such ridiculous things it's almost impossible to police. If they made odds for what time you opened your front door in the morning and your mates where betting, how big is the temptation and how do you prove whether it's luck or not.



IMO betting is a scourge but if it happens they should only be allowed to offer bets on things like a result, scorers etc. and not ridiculous things like whether someone eats a pie or not.

25 May 2017 02:39:40

To be fair betfred took bets that he would be substitued on 26mins at 100/ 1.

{Ed001's Note - it is called spot fixing and it is against the laws of the game and the land.}

25 May 2017 04:50:43

As much as I dislike terry, surely moyes should be the one in the dock for agreeing to it? Wasn't it his agreement that allowed it to happen? He only had to refuse citing potential issues.

{Ed001's Note - so the organiser should be excused because someone else also agreed to spot fix? Not sure I understand your reasoning. Everyone complicit should be charged and punished to stop the spread of this kind of cheating.}

25 May 2017 05:45:13

No, Absolutely everyone complicit should be charged but if moyes says no then presumably it doesn't happen. but then again you're talking about the ego that is John terry here



My point was that moyes had the opportunity but took the easy option to agree. As such he should be called, but all I see is Chelsea / Terry.

{Ed001's Note - well first off, Terry is the ringleader and admitted he organised it, so he is bound to take the brunt of it. Has Moyes admitted anything? I know the Sunderland players agreed to be part of it, but I have not seen or read anything saying that was at Moyes' bequest, all have said it was Terry who asked them.



By the way, is there anything more sad and pathetic than organising your own tribute? That really is low.}

25 May 2017 07:29:11

Exactly ED002



The fact he had to organise it because the club had not bothered to do anything after 22 years of service speaks volumes in itself. Its all rather embarrassing. Terry is that far up his own backside, he must of thought its what the world wanted to see.



I'm surprised he wasn't at the Friends Stadium last night in a United kit waiting to run on and lift the cup his morals are that low.

{Ed001's Note - erm Ed001 mate! Other than that I totally agree with you.}

25 May 2017 07:32:58

Ooops Sorry ED - Im still waking up.

{Ed001's Note - it's ok, I can understand it was a shock to read something you agreed with from me.}

25 May 2017 07:37:09

He should also be done for time wasting. He took ages getting off the pitch.

25 May 2017 08:02:44
Ed001 am i missing something. yes its very sad terry orginised it and im sure there are other ways of having a send off. But if the bookies had any idea it would happen in any way is it not there fault for being niave and taking any sort of bets on it. Its noy really luck or a prediction if you know its happening!

{Ed001's Note - I really do not see the relevance? I really do not care about the bookies getting hit or anything like that, the issue is that moments in a competitive league match should never be set up and agreed upon between opponents beforehand. That is why we have testimonials and friendlies, for stunts like that. They have no place in a competitive match.}

28 May 2017 15:23:11
Nothing embarrassing is beyond terry ed. All the finals he went full kit when he didn't play.

Theres a montage of it with everyone major event in history, him full kitting something he wasnt a part of.

No football match should have anything apart from the 90 mins.

If its that easy to organise a full parade amonst all players, how easy is it to approach one to. give a pen away or something.

Oh and terru fully admitted it. Basically the jist is i will celebrate with my fans however i want, wether its the 1st minute or the last, i've been here for 22 years and won enough trophys.

I mean he is the true dick head of football for me.

Keane. I didn't celebrate the champions league win because i wasnt a part of the final.

24 May 2017 22:48:54
Davidson Sanchez looks a beast thought he played really well tonight is there any interest in him from anywhere? I know it's not Liverpool related but looks like he has lots of potential thanks.

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24 May 2017 22:59:41
Barcelona are very keen and you can see why.

25 May 2017 00:07:27
A mixed performance from him, I thought. He looked terrified when Rashford closed him down and some of his passing was very poor. He did look good in one on ones though - seems like he tackles cleanly. And he showed good pace in chasing down Lingard towards the end, but it also looked like Lingard did his best to mess that chance up himself.

25 May 2017 00:49:17
De Ligt, the other CB, looked better than Sanchez.

25 May 2017 01:50:21
Totally agree. I thought he looked decent. Hard to believe he's just 17. One to watch.

25 May 2017 07:26:42
He may be a beast but he seemed to have an issue passing to his own team mates and was very rash, not going to judge him on one performance but i was not that impressed.

{Ed001's Note - he looked like the occasion was too much for him and was far from a beast. He had an absolute mare.}

24 May 2017 22:33:00
Betting been suspended on iker casillas joining us in the summer. Anyone heard anything?

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24 May 2017 23:31:31
'01 said it wasn't happening. Bookmakers suspend betting on many things that never happen, unfortunately it's impossible to ignore betting companies now that one adorns our kit like a moral gonococcal lesion.

24 May 2017 22:15:48
Bliney, I thought Ajax would be least put in some kind of effort. that' is the most piss poor performance I have seen since, I don't know when.?! The players standing around on the pitch at the end like they had been robbed? seemed to be a set of high school kids who don't know how to pass to each other - very disappointing.

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24 May 2017 20:12:48
Hi Eds and fellow Reds,

I've been out of the rumour mill for a while now and just catching up the last couple days, so I apologize if this has been addressed previously.

I assumed leading up to this summer that the most glaring issue (other than LB) that would be addressed this summer would be CB.

If possible Eds, could you give some insight as to why Klopp and Co. don't think any CB replacements / cover is necessary?

In my opinion it seems obvious that our CB pairing (Lovren) just wasn't up to snuff this year for the prem, let alone Champions league. am I going insane?

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25 May 2017 01:55:48
We can't buy everything we need in one summer. Looks like FBs are priorty this window. Plus Gomez will be given a chance to stake a claim this season coming, then probably reasses next summer.

24 May 2017 14:02:04
Does anyone know if any of the players we've been linked to are particularly good at set pieces?

When Coutinho gets his obligatory injury and then suffers his usual 6-7 game struggle to regain form afterwards (that's not a dig at Coutinho, it happens every season) we really lack anyone who can take a decent corner and free-kick, Henderson and Milner are just not good enough at set pieces for us to use them effectively.

Dead ball specialists are critical as it makes defenders panic about making challenges on ball carriers and with Mane back, Coutinho playing deeper (hopefully continues next there season), Brandt (or whoever we get for LWF), Lallana, Bobby et al we have a lot of potential for getting dead ball situations as I feel we will be one of the highest ball carrying/ dribbles into the box teams next season.

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24 May 2017 18:38:09
i think luan and parades take corners and indirect free kicks for their respective teams. i believe Parades to be quite the specialist.

24 May 2017 08:56:49
I appreciate he's probably not on our radar but .........

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24 May 2017 22:02:06
. Is he on our sonar?

24 May 2017 22:43:00
More likely the Hubble telescope we're that far away ;)

23 May 2017 21:55:08
to all the ED@S and Fans although this site is great. What a terrible thing that has happened in Manchester. My heart goes out to those poor family's who have lost someone. Thinking someone can go out of their way to hurt poor children. This world is become so sick.

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24 May 2017 10:54:03
I agree. Football is totally insignificant when such a tragedy like this happens. My thoughts and prayers are with all the poor victims and their families.

23 May 2017 19:52:04

Saw a post in twitter that naby keita to liverpool is a done deal. Player has signed a 4 year deal and the cost is 25.5-31.5 depending on addons.

Any news eds?

{Ed025's Note - not that i am aware of riva, there is interest from liverpool but nothing concrete yet, dont believe all you read on twitter though mate, its where jack bought his magic beans from...apparently.. :)

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23 May 2017 20:17:33

Eds/ everyone. Is Griezman an absolute impossibility? Say Utd don't make the Ch league, would he come to Liverpool I wonder? Would he be too expensive for starters?

{Ed025's Note - 1..yes 2..no 3..yes..

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24 May 2017 09:40:28
Would he improve us?
Maybe, but his position is by no means a priority.

 


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