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19 Sep 2017 23:06:15
I'm surprised you lot aren't slating the defenders more! Positively surprised that is! Just a few weeks ago most on here thought I was a fool to suggest that the defenders weren't the real issue here.

Compare the addition of a new center back to my 6 months old niece trying to solve the theory of relativity - the outcome would be exactly the same.

We are in dire need of something new happening in our midfield. Once again I'm convinced a holding midfielder would add what we atm lack so desperately. Henderson and Wijnaldum/ Can (whoever is playing) aren't organized enough to do their defensive duties and time and time again we see the system fail because of that. Time for a change and organization!

Also, really sad to see Ox perform at the level he did today. I had hoped for way more, although I've never rated him, but man was I disappointed. Pick it up Ox, read this and prove us doubters wrong!

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19 Sep 2017 22:36:53
I do feel a bit sorry for Oxlaid Chamberlain after that today. He was very poor but it's his first start and we should have patience with him. Unfortunately the knuckle draggers will be out in force saying he was a waste of money and we should've signed a CB instead of him or a DCM or some rubbish. Let's hope he stays off social media for a while because he will get battered. Do people not realise it's really not helpful?

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19 Sep 2017 22:51:37
But we should of signed a cb before him cats on the street know that!

19 Sep 2017 23:07:42
Which one Jay? It's not like we didn't try and it wasn't a case of Ox or a CB was it? He will still get grief for it though.

19 Sep 2017 23:24:02
Which one? Well I'm going to tell u now other then Southampton cb's there are thousands out there! We have scouts are u telling me everyone of them just watched vvd? The fools we have at the back making millions should be ashamed school boy errors over n over! Are u telling me ox was a priority over a cb? I can't tell u other names I don't watch other leagues but I know there is better far better cbs out there! I'm not givin ox grief he just wasn't a priority in my eye where the defence is mate!

19 Sep 2017 23:45:06
No mate you're completely missing the point. Klopp is after 1st choice players which cost a lot of money. VVD, Keita, Lemar.
There's no point paying millions on a player that you don't think will be first choice in a years time. Matip was in the bundesliga team of the season, Lovren was great at Southampton, Klavan is Estonia's most capped player these are good CBs so he's said yes we could go and buy a CB but they would be no better than what we have and would be ousted as soon as I get the right man or men in. I think he's got a plan but it won't happen overnight he needs time to get the right players to implement it.
Most fans can only see the last couple of weeks though and don't realise he knows a lot more about players, both his own and players around the world than you could ever know. Strengths, weaknesses, social lives, you name it he knows it but he's expected to answer to a bunch of imbeciles who think they know more?
Plus we don't actually know who he's tried to sign, who he's looked at and what their or their clubs responses were.
But no you know better! Please! I understand you want to air your frustrations but it's futile as you only know a fraction of the real story.
Just let the man do his job and stop trying to play football manager.

19 Sep 2017 23:49:33
We're back to Zulu again Ed.

There's thousands of them!

Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes,

20 Sep 2017 02:15:09
I feel sorry for the Ox too, his ankle tape/ straps ruined his performance! 😂😂.

19 Sep 2017 22:36:28
Football's in a sorry state when the managers under pressure after 4 games without a win and players judged on about 120 minutes of football.

{Ed025's Note - your right ben..

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19 Sep 2017 23:10:50
True Ben. I hate it. 3 weeks ago Klopp was a genius and we had the most exciting team in the league. Now he's a clown with no idea how to build a team. If we're not careful he will leave then we'll be right in the sh! t.

19 Sep 2017 23:30:46
When's he ever been a genius? Massively overrated.

{Ed025's Note - your a united fan stand, so your not likely to say he was mate..

20 Sep 2017 00:04:23
I think that's the 4th loss since March,

Take him out and stone him!

That's not acceptable at all!

Lets replace him then with De Boor or Harry Rednapp.

Get real. He tried by hook and more by crook to strengthen the defence and midfield with VVD and Kieta,
Ok it didn't work out YET but all them players chose to join Klopps Liverpool over Chelsea and Arsenal and a host of other clubs.

Robertson has done well since he joined as has Solanke, Ox was late coming in and is not up to speed yet.

And Salah could be in Double figures if he was a bit more composed. But has still done enough to be UEFA player of the month.

19 Sep 2017 21:51:06
I am still okay that Liverpool got defeated .

But why did not we score a single goal .

Why did we spent 40mil on AOC and sent origi on loan.

Could not find difference n play from Hendo, gruijic and wjandalum.

No creativity from these guys. Although I still want to give few more chance to gruijic, he is very low in confidence now.

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20 Sep 2017 00:05:20
Grujic was worryingly very poor.

19 Sep 2017 22:23:14
This first goal showed how our midfielders need to find some responsibility and some game intelligence from somewhere.

The danger was not clear and yet the 3 of them ran out (as is correct) but they ran away from the Leicester players. They should have acted like defenders until the danger was clear. Watch it again. When the 2nd ball came in Klavan and Gomez had 5 Leicester players to deal with that our 3 midfielders had run out past and were now standing in space, looking back at them as Leicester scored.

Very frustrating for any coach. That is something any player at any level should know to do.

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19 Sep 2017 22:43:13
But Fitzy if Gomez comes all the way out instead of stepping back in he plays said 5 Leicester plays offside which is the correct way to defend after a set piece. Unfortunately he got a bit scared and took 2 steps back playing Morgan on then when he heads it across they've got a 5 against 2 situation. Easily avoidable but not any fault of the midfielders mate.

19 Sep 2017 22:20:18
it's all about opinions can someone tell me what the hell Henderson offers the team he jogs around the field passing sideways backwards trying to play long glory balls. as for tonights game we created chances but if we don't take them were always going to be under pressure because we can't keep a clean sheet. can anyone out there honestly say our defence is going to improve dosnt matter witch players he picks in the back 4 they all seem just as bad i said a few weeks ago its great watching our fantastic attacking players but the defence and klopp not sorting it out will cost him his job.

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20 Sep 2017 00:07:14
Win the ball back run like the clapoers closing down space,

19 Sep 2017 22:10:31
Above all else because many obvious points are going to get retracted again which is kind of boring to keep rehashing I worry about our players confidence.
At the moment we're playing well and losing or drawing games that should be out of sight.
I can't think of one game so far we're we've played well but also been tested defensively and got the win. Correct me if I'm wrong? The arsenal game told us nothing.
Klopp has to fix things soon or it's going to be a very long painful season. It's not "luck" or lack of it atm. It's our own doing.
I'm hoping these are blips.

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19 Sep 2017 22:10:10
Few thoughts from the game

- looking at the positives, the first half was truly excellent in terms of energy and threat but yet again no goal. We genuinely seem to be lacking a bit of luck, or maybe final touch is just a bit off, but it's just not falling for us right now and don't let that mask the good stuff from the first 45
- Some bright performances from Ward, Solanke, Gomez, Coutinho and excellent cameos from Woodburn and Ings
- Now the negatives. starting obviously with the lack of scoring a goal despite numerous chances. We just look that half yard off but I honestly think a fair amount is down to luck at the moment and once a few go in confidence will return
- Having said that our midfield was pretty poor overall - not in terms of passing or possession, but in terms of passing it in a way that created real danger, or just not looking to get into the box and score. only ones that looked really incisive in middle of the park were Coutinho and then Woodburn who weren't playing midfield at all
- Grujic was culpable to some extent but he's young and learning, main culprits were actually Gini and Hendo for me, then Ox at the end, we just don't seem to be able to run with the ball with any real threat from deep at the moment and we seem to be slipping into expecting front three to score everything - looking forward to having Lallana back
- Ox did not cover himself in glory today. have always felt he looked a bit directionless on the ball at Arsenal, and it seemed the case here today. Early days but he has a long way to go to justify starting others on the sidelines such as Woodburn
- Obviously two goals but frankly I'm over debating the back 5 and sometime things happen. I actually think today we played reasonably well in defence apart from when we started to get nervous after not scoring for so long and everyone started to realise we were watching the same old movie. We got the offside trap wrong for Okazaki and Slimani was a worldy strike but move on
- it does seem that the Man City result and losing Mane is hitting us harder than even we expected - confidence in the side is visibly shaken and we need to get back to winning ways soon - I'm confident if we can put together a good run and confidence improves we have the ability in this squad to still go far, and we are still only a Keita and a couple of defenders away from a truly top class team

Good news is I'd rather lose this one than Saturday - hopefully we get it right next game.

Chins up reds. YNWA.

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19 Sep 2017 22:05:23
I know there's a lot of negativity after our last 4 results. But it is honestly getting embarrassing imo. We cannot defend because of Klopps inability to do dealings properly. We have no quality in he final 3rd when Coutinho, Mane, Salah and Firmino don't play. We needed another quality attacking player. And we're just not clinical enough at the moment. I don't think Klopp should be sacked now but if in a month or so time results don't improve I would be more inclined to wanting him sacked. But still YNWA.

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19 Sep 2017 22:04:50
calm down lads, ever thought that the players feel the nervousness of the fans and it affects their play. miss the days where we, the lfc supporters, were renowned for their support no matter what. we have a very young talented group and am sure we'll get excited soon enough by them. just support them during the games and stop those knee jerk reactions. fair criticisme is welcome cause you should care about your club, but slating players isn't acceptable.
I'll support them trough the good and bad times.

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