28 May 2024 09:34:30
Ryan Gravenberch had a bad couple of seasons at Bayern Munich and his confidence was shot to pieces by Thomas Tuchel. But in the last few games, i can see his confidence returning slowly and green shoots are appearing to come through. I think with a Dutch coach, we may well see the real Ryan Gravenberch next season YNWA.
28 May 2024 09:48:43
Didn't Gravenberch only play for Bayern for one season, mostly under Nagelsmann then under Tuchel for like 2 months. So not sure how his confidence would have been shot to pieces by Tuchel.
From his performances with us, he has shown that he has the potential to make it with us but he has only showed it in flashes thus far. He still has time on his side though and I would like to see how he progresses under Slot next season.
28 May 2024 10:36:28
I think Grav is playing for his future under the new manager, alongside a few others in the midfield like Jones, Bajcetic (injuries), Morton.
Personally I think only two of the above four will survive.
I’d move them on and bring in Ederson to give us physicality and legs in the midfield.
28 May 2024 10:39:52
Although Grav didn't set the world alight he does offer something different to the other midfielders. He is best at receiving the ball on the half turn and then running at the opposition. He also looks like he has some goals in him.
A lot have written him off and want him to be sold this summer but I like him and think that he is definitely worth at least another season. It is likely that the midfield setup will be slightly different under Slot which may (or may not) suit him better, he will be more settled and like you say the Dutch link may benefit him.
Although the club have done what they can to smooth the transition from Klopp, the fact is that there is massive change at the club this summer. We may well see some top players struggling and 'squad' players thriving. let's just strap in and enjoy it!
28 May 2024 11:54:50
In fairness to the lad he's only a year older than Elliot so I'd definitely like to see him given another year at least to progress with the club next season.
28 May 2024 12:10:29
Bajetic is meant to have discipline problems too and gakpo says in recent interview that he is late for everything which is not good attitude for aspiring top player hope he doesn’t destroy potential from bad mistakes.
28 May 2024 12:27:46
Where has this BajcEtic discipline problblem come from?
28 May 2024 13:03:08
Like I said the gakpo interview, he was asked to describe bacjetic and he said always late, maybe nothing but it doesn’t look good for me.
28 May 2024 13:19:12
You do make a good point there Jk23. Personally I can't see it working out for him but it'll be interesting to see how he will do under slot. Fingers crossed for him of course. I do hope he does well. I'm always wrong so he's going to smash it next season, just watch lol.
28 May 2024 13:44:16
If he cannot add aggression to his game, he won't fulfil his potential. The new coaches will need to find a way to unlock that.
28 May 2024 14:32:45
Jesus christ colonel, talk about making a mountain out of a molehill?.
28 May 2024 14:46:59
I think it’s a stretch to say “Bajetic is meant to have discipline problems” based on a jokey comment from a teammate in an interview.
He’s 19. He’s a teenager. I wouldn’t say he’s got discipline problems but maybe I’m a soft touch.
28 May 2024 15:18:22
Everyone will be getting a chance to impress the new manager for the most part so those who were on the edge of the squad like Gravenberch was, will be able to stake his claim.
Personally, I would keep him for another seasonto see what he can do cos the natural talent is there, IMO. He just needs to add all the other things required to be a good LFC midfielder to his game.
28 May 2024 16:02:58
Why does the idea persist that because people are from the same country things will work out for the best. I was born in England and I can guarantee you that I didn’t like everybody in England. I’m an Australian citizen now and, again, I don’t like all Australians who know what Slot’s relationship with RG will turn out to be.
28 May 2024 16:08:44
I think the Dutch players could all end up doing well under Slot, given his philosophy is an adaptation of the Dutch 'Total Football' model. That model is still the foundation for Dutch football today and therefore something the likes of Gakpo, Virgil, Gravenberch and Sepp vdB will all have grown up around. Gravenberch in particular was a product of the Ajax academy where 'Total Football' has been ingrained throughout the club for decades.
{Ed025's Note - but sometimes that total football ethic does not always fit with the pace of the premiership MK, you dont get time on the ball like you do in Holland mate and thats why players like Donny VDB etc were like fish out of water, just my opinion of course..
28 May 2024 16:34:44
I don't think Gravenberch is adaptable enough to survive. He would be best as a number 10 and he's not good enough to play out wide or in a deeper central position. We have an abundance of players I'd prefer as an advanced 8 or 10, both on ability and their adaptability: Mac Allister, Jones, Szoboslzai, Elliott, even Bobby Clark. They all have him beat on both counts. I'd normally be in favour of him having another chance under the new manager but I just can't see where he fits in unfortunately.
28 May 2024 22:24:51
I think grav definitely deserves another season or two. He started to find his feet a bit upto the 3 handled cup final. ( don’t know what it’s called anymore, is it still the rumbelows cup? ) I was gutted when he went off in final I felt he was our best midfielder that day. I think he will come good in fact I’ll put a pound on him becoming more important to us than macca. There I said it.
28 May 2024 23:32:39
as usual we look at a players perceived weakness and that is more heavily weighted in their assessment.
Gravenberch has the athleticim and dribbling ability to thrive as a midfielder in the prem. What he needs is confidence in his body to be aggressive and deliver that consistently each week. Remember he is really just a kid and may not hit his peak until his mid-20s. that's years away. Let him grow in our set-up before we decide that this version of him is him forever and therefore he should go.
29 May 2024 14:57:00
@Faith, Grav is also press-resistant with his back to the oppo. and has a brilliant half turn and decent dribbling ability and a decent strike on the ball.