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15 Nov 2020 15:27:57
Rip Ray Clemence.

1.) 15 Nov 2020 17:34:07
RIP Ray Clemence. A true legend. The best we've had. God bless him.

12 Jul 2018 13:56:31
Loving the new 3rd kit for this season, a nod to the 80's away kit.

23 Dec 2017 09:08:46
I have to say I am surprised by Klopps patience with Mignolet, after Bogdans howler against Exeter in the F. A cup he bombed him out and never played for us again, its obvious to everyone on here just how bad Mignolet is, even opposing supporters are beginning to post their views of our keeper, Klopp has to stop being so goddam stubborn, make the change and stick with it, Merry Xmas everyone and a peaceful New Year ☺.

1.) 23 Dec 2017 09:52:16
SPROUT,
well, well, well, what do we make of that, it can’t of surprised us we’ve seen it all to often, every time we see KLOPP in interview and the reporter asks about the defence, KLOPP always sounds sheepish about it. even with new players I don’t think KLOPP has the defensive nous to be solid, this may be as good as it gets, Just take a look at his DORTMUND time. over to you JURGEN.

2.) 23 Dec 2017 10:05:47
Agree it's becoming embarrassing to the club now.

3.) 23 Dec 2017 11:04:16
I’m not defending (pardon the pun) everything about our defence, the second half was full of head in hands moments, but honestly I’m that 1st half I was very impressed with the defence, especially the centre backs. They looked solid, headed everything and stepped in to make interceptions pretty impressively. Obviously it went horribly wrong in the second half.

4.) 23 Dec 2017 11:10:16
The defender was superb yesterday and has been for a while. First goal Gomez switches off, 9 times out of ten he just puts his head on it. Second goal mignolet, 3rd goal can (who don't want to be here and doesn't care if we get CL or not) and mignolet. Klav lov robo were superb.

5.) 23 Dec 2017 12:07:09
Spot on, Benny. Wembley, Klopp won the league with BVB with the best defence in both times so yeah, his BVB days were much better than his LFC days defensively and remember, the defensive issues pre-date Klopp's arrival.

That aside, the defence as a whole were very good esp. in the first half where Arsenal did not get a sniff through out until Gomez and Migs dropped their clangers. You cannot deny that. Gomez's I can take cos he is young and has been brilliant and an error should NEVER change that fact. At 2-1, we are still winning so all we have to do is try to manage the game. Well, we never got a chance to do that as the clown in goal punched the ball into his own net and equalized for Arsenal. The defence playing well will NEVER be able to stop that from happening so blaming them is just nonsense and a poor attempt at scapegoating.

6.) 23 Dec 2017 12:09:47
Gomez was superb up until that point, no idea what he was thinking. He lives and learns though, he could develop into a superb player, looks comfortable in possession.

7.) 23 Dec 2017 16:54:17
BROVER,
just listen to KLOPP in his interviews, it’s like he’s not seeing the same game as everybody else, he has backed MINGO to the hilt and he’s let him down big time, even now after last nights shocker he is still backing him, the clown will get KLOPP the sack, he needs to wake up and smell the coffee instead of wearing blinkers all the time.

8.) 24 Dec 2017 23:16:58
Klopp hands are tied bcos FSG has limited budget for GK as opposed to outfield player.

15 Dec 2017 16:19:35
Don't know if Paul Merson is back on the sauce but he reckons we are the only team out of the big teams who would take Jack Wilshere is he having a laugh! Oh and he sees vhim as a replacement for Courtinho.

1.) 15 Dec 2017 16:45:09
He has a point, we are the only ones who stockpile midfielders.

2.) 15 Dec 2017 16:34:59
Sorry if this is harsh but I don’t see it with him. Not only is he massively injury prone I honestly don’t see this superstar level people keep assigning to him. Wouldn’t be within a mile of a genuine top class midfielder for me.

3.) 15 Dec 2017 18:43:22
Jack Wilshere would not make the stands at LFC.

4.) 15 Dec 2017 18:44:56
Ron, suddenly your answers and posts have been a bit snippy and harsh lately towards LFC, the players and Klopp. You are normally the eternal optimist on this site. What's your beef, man?

5.) 15 Dec 2017 18:45:56
The new joe Cole? Lol.

6.) 15 Dec 2017 21:56:46
Sorry lads, I'm massively disillusioned after the team changes for the derby and it will take me a while to get it off my chest.

7.) 15 Dec 2017 23:58:28
Ron, what if you had drawn with Coutinho and Firmino?

8.) 16 Dec 2017 02:46:28
Come on Ron, what happened that game was pretty annoying to say the least, even worse it was because it was vs Everton but, it's history, there's been worse games, got to get on with it mate and hope we learn from it.

9.) 16 Dec 2017 03:29:20
Oh boy, Paul Merson started his Christmas binge early this year.

10.) 16 Dec 2017 08:02:21
Setting myself up for a fall here but I think Ron would be fine with playing our best team and not winning. It's not the result that bothers him it's the not taking it seriously that he has a problem with.

11.) 16 Dec 2017 08:49:56
Putney, that is pure projection. We know Klopp did not take the game seriously. Cos he has feasted on them since he arrived here (3 wins on the bounce) Cou had a knock and Firmino was too tired and both were not fit to start. You may disagree with that BUT neither you nor I are the manager so we don't know the information Klopp and the fitness team and sports scientists had prior to the game, which determines who plays and for how long.

Had he played them and they got injured, you would be fuming and rightly so for Klopp starting them esp. since the rotation policy of late had yielded 13 points out of 15 and a CL KO ticket prior to that? We played Can and Wiji due to illness and injuries at CB at Brighton and won 5-1. Why change something that is working you would asked, right? Had Mane squared the ball or Salah, Lovren and Gomez taken their chances, people would not be complaining. Then, Klopp plays his best team vs WBA and we were actually closer to beating Everton with a "weaker" team than we did vs WBA with our best team. Wow, I thought footie was an exact science.

Frankly, people need to get over this whole "play your best team" vs Everton stuff as you cannot play your best team if some of them are not fit enough to give 100% in a derby. Klopp put a good team out there and why do we know that? They dominated, created chances and bar a fluke pen, they would have won, like they have been prior to the game. On to B'mouth.

12.) 16 Dec 2017 08:52:12
Klopp played the team everyone wanted against West Brom and it was even worse watching Can, Gini and Coutinho stroll around in midfield like they couldn't be bothered. At least Milner, Henderson and Chamberlain worked hard to make things happen against Everton. Football is 90% perspiration and 10% inspiration.

Anyway, that was a week ago now. There are worse things happen in life than drawing a derby game.

13.) 16 Dec 2017 09:48:52
Yea drawing agains't West Brom.

14.) 16 Dec 2017 10:34:01
BRover, the question was why Ron is upset and he has a legitimate reason. You're talking about a lot of what ifs and maybes. The only fact is that Klopp didn't play our strongest team in the Merseyside derby. You may be okay with Klopp doing that but Ron isn't.

My beef is that playing Solanke was a terrible choice for that game, Klopp played right into Allardyce's hands and it's a concern that Klopp showed such poor judgement.

15.) 16 Dec 2017 10:58:07
Putney, I am not referring to Ron's point as he has said that he is upset cos the game was one he and his mates look forward to hence, his disappointment and I can understand that. That is separate from what is actually going on with the team on the pitch, in training, analysis and preparation. What I mentioned regarding the injuries/ tiredness with Cou and Firmino are not what if's. They are facts as Klopp mentioned them. You may choose to ignore all of that cos it does not fit your narrative BUT they are still facts. The team he picked played well enough to win and that is all I care about. All the "best team" is just white noise, IMO.

Regarding Solanke, did Klopp play into the hands of Mark Hughes when he started Solanke and where Solanke had an assist and should have had another one and should have scored in a game we won 3-0? The kid had a good game so what is wrong with Klopp starting him vs Everton coming off the back of a decent showing vs Stoke? Oh and btw, who played Mane thru on goal before he got greedy and fluffed his lines? Solanke.

You think Klopp cares about what the opposition manager thinks and therefore, plans his teams accordingly? He is not that insecure, my friend. Pls, Sam Alardyce is and has always been a clueless manager and you are giving him way too much credit for that. A dead clock is right twice a day does not mean the clock works.

16.) 16 Dec 2017 12:35:28
Sam is extremely skilled at what he does. It’s not actual football, it’s something far far uglier but his job is not to earn trophies. It’s to help a club avoid relegation and there is no better manager out there in my mind who can do it. Short term, he has saved a sinking ship but I feel bad for Everton fans who have to endure a dreadful two seasons of his (ahem) brand of football- as bad as they are, nobody deserves that. As for klopp not playing his strongest team, I respect bringing in Solanke but there was no worse game to start. Perhaps klopp was arrogant enough to believe we’d bowl them over with a “weakened” team. It’s disappointing but hopefully he’ll learn and never do it again. I worry more about Ron- we need someone to remind us it’ll all be alright when it’s all going wrong. Perhaps Harry could step in for the moment with a little positivity?

17.) 16 Dec 2017 13:05:03
Nice one, AOE. I like your post about Fat Scam BUT I just disagree with the "Klopp is arrogant" stuff. Klopp nor LFC are in no position to be arrogant about anything given the crap we have had to deal with for years and arrogance did not make Klopp destroy the mighty Bayern and win the trophies he has won. He is a very honorable and humble man and I love that about him.

Now, back to your post. Look at Brighton. Had he had his CB's, he would have played them instead of Can and Wiji. Had he had them healthy and STILL played Can and Wiji then for sure, he is arrogant. That was not the case at Brighton nor vs Everton.
Klopp played a team that was missing Cou (knock) and Firmino (fatigue) and were not deemed fit enuff to start. That is not arrogance. That is reality. You may disagree with the lineup BUT those were the cards he was dealt. He put out the best team he had available and had no choice but to start Solanke. The manager plays the players he has available to him based on fitness and energy levels, end of. This is not rocket science as all managers do this cos well, that is the hand they are dealt.

The team was good enuff to win the game and the so called "best team" were poor vs WBA so by that standard, he might as well have played the "weak" team vs WBA as they seemed to actually care while the best team did not look bothered esp. in CM.

18.) 16 Dec 2017 16:42:14
Fair enough brover- I should probably state that the word arrogance wasn't meant in a completely negative way- merely confidence in how badly Everton have been- as a manager I think there should be a certain amount of arrogance when making hard decisions. It wasn't a knock on klopp- but playing the team he played was in my view a mistake. These things happen and I hope he learns. I think the frustration for his team selection was in him playing key players for the full 90 against a battered team midweek instead of subbing them for the derby. Again, I hope he learns. I'm very much of the opinion that if they're fit to be on the bench, they're fit to start. I think if you are rotating, it should be two to three players at a time and be clever with substitutions- especially when there's a massive massive game to come.

22 May 2016 10:28:08
Hey Waro
Have to agree with you buddy, that Cindy is a complete #*#*wit, he is so anti pool it's unbelievable! After the Dortmund game he made such ridiculous remarks about the refs that even Carra got on the blower and gave him hell! Glad someone else has realised what an arse he really is, I don't listen now cheers mate.

1.) 22 May 2016 10:56:31
Cundy is a well known ****. Every football fan of other clubs despise him even some Chelsea fans.

2.) 22 May 2016 12:30:22
Cundy us No class bias every opportunity he gets a dig in at lfc.

3.) 22 May 2016 13:39:05
Can't stand Cundy.

4.) 22 May 2016 13:58:57
Apparently Cundy was jumping around the Talk sport studio when Sevilla won.

Numpty.

5.) 22 May 2016 14:03:07
Everyone hates jason cundy, he is the exact kind of typical football journalist who is just so wrong and bitter and irritating in every facet of his work it is infuriating. The most 'typical football fan' in the world.

6.) 22 May 2016 15:40:15
Can't stand the the fella to be honest always thought he was a bit of a nimrod, but he's always backed us over Hillsborough right from the start when the wouldn't listen.

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27 Dec 2017 17:57:59
If It hadn't been for Jones's injuries Gary Neville would never have won as many caps for England as he did.

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05 Feb 2017 11:59:49
Nice pick me Ron top man!