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06 Jul 2019 16:16:34
I hate rumours like this but in a betting group I am in, a usually reliable poster shared some info (with a view to bet on it) that Dembele has traveled up to Liverpool today and is with Liverpool officials right now. The odds (irrelevant but interesting) have dropped substantially in the last few hours so it's either legit or a staged wind up that's spreading through betting groups so that punters jump on.

Do we have any info on this at all? As nobody has left for him to replace I'm dismissing until I hear from yourselves.


1.) 06 Jul 2019 16:44:43
Yeah dismiss it mate if I were you. No interest, would cost towards 100M also.


2.) 06 Jul 2019 16:53:39
Its happening on loan apparently. I don't know why barcelona would ever do that.
They will have to sell dembele and coutinho and others to get in griezmann and neymar.


3.) 06 Jul 2019 16:59:59
Not you as well akrubbish. Its nonsense!


4.) 06 Jul 2019 17:06:46
Controversial and winds people up but Im still not sure that Salah doesnt leave this window if the Merry Go Round starts up. Id prefer Pepe if he did but a loan to buy deal for Dembele could make sense if the worry is his previous injuries. Like you say, it doesnt help Barcelona with funding their main targets. Im dismissing it but I do love a rumour that drops the odds market as Im a sports trader myself and can take advantage of rumours like this even if they are false.


5.) 06 Jul 2019 17:35:37
You imagine the club will be watching Salah closely, and potential replacements, in case he gets the offer he clearly wants from Real or wherever.
It doesn't look likely at the moment, but while it's even possible the management will have a plan ready, just in case.

I would rather they make that move now and bed the new forward in over this season, but it's such a huge investment that maybe they can't really make their move until they know Salah has made the decision to leave?


6.) 06 Jul 2019 18:17:15
I would n't worry about it (I am guessing most don't want Dembele in) . I would imagine he will be part of any Naymar deal that may happen.


7.) 06 Jul 2019 19:38:01
Never going to happen. Plus hed be late getting the flight to John Lennon airport as he was too busy on his Xbox.


8.) 06 Jul 2019 19:57:27
On the possibility of Dembele specifically, surely it's unlikely the club will be interested?
Klopp seems to prefer more solid and hardworking personalities, and every indication is that Dembele is a complete tool.
Maybe Klopp doesn't mind a project and the challenge of turning a brilliant but wayward young player around, but the rest of the recruitment team will surely be dead set against a player with such a poor reputation, and at such a high cost?
I don't think this club will touch him at 100m plus.


9.) 06 Jul 2019 20:20:55
If he's going to be part of the deal to bring Neymar back, PSG are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.


10.) 06 Jul 2019 20:38:24
Does anyone think that we could get dembele? I think if he was travelling to Liverpool we would all know about it. Is Liverpools deals not sorted in London?


11.) 06 Jul 2019 20:47:54
I'm not saying it will happen but would anyone take a loan to buy? Season to bed in to klopps tactics and then when Salah leaves next summer (probable but not definite) we can conclude the dembele deal (if klopp thinks he's good enough/ has the right attitude.

Again, I know unlikely, but am interested to see peoples views.

{Ed002's Note - It is not an option at all. Dembele is not in Liverpool.}


12.) 06 Jul 2019 21:55:01
Thanks Ed. Good job I didn't have a bet then, ill lay him off to all the people who believe it .


13.) 06 Jul 2019 23:24:27
Usually, I agree about bookies and odds regarding football are biased in the bookies favour, obviously, you never see a skint bookie, but interesting non the less as sky have taken him completely off their transfer special section, and he's been on their for weeks. Hmmm.


14.) 07 Jul 2019 03:56:43
Ps don't shoot the messenger but the same window cleaner does klopps house and he swears blind that klopps Screensaver is of Danny wellbeck make of it as you will just passing on the knowledge I just checked the odds at the bookies and he's come in from 100 to 1 to 98 to 1 so it's looking pretty nailed on.


15.) 07 Jul 2019 11:30:05
I saw my missus talking to the window cleaner last week and now bookies have reduced the odds of her having an affair from 20-1 down to 7-2 I don't know whether I should sack him as our window cleaner or to sneak a 30 bet on.


16.) 07 Jul 2019 15:16:07
Giblet, I am your window cleaner . Its over . respect to you, how do you cope, another hour and I would 've gone mad.


17.) 07 Jul 2019 20:59:30
Salah is not leaving next summer . who wants to leave the premier and european champions.


 

 

24 Jun 2019 19:13:17
Afternoon Eds.

The Times (via Paul Joyce) are running a story about Mignolet, they say the decision has been made that he is staying for the coming season.

Do you have any further info on him at all?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry - nothing new.}


1.) 24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so id be very happy if it was true.


2.) 24 Jun 2019 22:05:16
I can only assume we will allow him to go IF we find a replacement and IF the offer is right for both us and Mignolet.

As much as I love his commitment and putting the team first, surely he needs to be looking for 1st team football elsewhere?


 

 

05 May 2019 00:40:23
I have heard from a contact that Klopp has a keen interest in Leroy Sane and as part of his planning for the summer (should a space become available due to a first team player leaving) he has asked to be keep in the loop on the players situation.

Have any of the Ed's heard similar? The guy who told me isn't your typical moron and does hear reliable info occasionally about various teams.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously Sane was an option in the past - going forward if Mane were to leave this summer Sane might be considered again by the club - but I am not aware of any approach to Manchester City asking to be "kept informed" at all.}


1.) 05 May 2019 10:32:35
I would love Sane in our team but you must be smoking something over there if you think Guardiola would sell him to us for a reasonable price!


2.) 05 May 2019 10:36:55
No chance unless Mane goes which is unlikely since Real will probably get Hazard.
Plus I doubt we have that sort of money City would want to part ways with him.


3.) 05 May 2019 11:27:18
Cover for the front three is definitely what we need. Sane is unrealistic, I'd take a chance on Zaha from palace. Can play wide and upfront, he's not lazy. Maybe worth a look reds?


4.) 05 May 2019 12:27:20
Does anyone know .....

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page, this is the Liverpool page.}


5.) 05 May 2019 12:43:29
LiverpoolFC8, I think Zaha has found his natural level at Crystal Palace. I don’t think he is good enough for Liverpool. But who would have thought Robbo would turn out this good?


6.) 05 May 2019 12:53:55
the way to San Jose?


7.) 05 May 2019 13:32:30
Nicolas pepe, or chuckweeze of villareal for me.


8.) 05 May 2019 14:56:23
Big Ed001, would you shell out for CAM next season if you were a manager? Assuming we don't lose any players to transfers.
Or would you try out some of the youth that looks good at the moment? Kent/ Wilson/ Brewster?

{Ed001's Note - Brewster is not really a CAM from what I have seen. Kent is nowhere near good enough and I have my doubts about Wilson. It really depends on who goes as to who we need to buy though.}


9.) 05 May 2019 20:55:18
Kent is gone, Wilson will probably have pre season to prove himself.

I think lallana should go and get regular game time somewhere else but i doubt people will want someone who spends so much time on the treatment table. it's unfortunate as he does offer something different when he doesn't dally on the ball.

Shaqiri, difficult one as ed says he was good at the start then Klopp got frustrated with him but apparently now he is firing on all cylinders, so we shall see he is a useful option but if we can get a decent return then maybe.

I am assuming we will look to bring someone in, to help cover the front line as well as we are severly short up front for back up/ other options.

Brewster is looking sharp in training and i have high hopes for him but sturridge is gone.


10.) 06 May 2019 09:49:33
The Juicer I see you have watched Helix haha
Anyway I can’t see city ever selling any of their first team players to us especially Sane.


 

 

04 Jan 2019 21:23:05
Is there any foreseeable way that we choose to keep Ings at the end of his loan period rather than complete the move?

As in a solid amount of form that would be comparable with our 2nd string CF or the sale of Sturridge and Solanke and Danny offered a chance to rotate/ challenge with Bobby?

I guess I wouldn't have considered it until Solanke was sold but I don't see Sturridge or Origi being real alternatives that can ever challenge and surely you need that to maintain a hungry and sharp CF. (Not doubting bobby in that area, just thinking as a whole in a squad)

{Ed002's Note - Sure, make an offer to buy him off Southampton after they buy him. You all seem to have forgotten that Solanke has not played this season. Ings if he returns won't play. May as well sell Brewster as he has zero chance with Liverpool fans clutching at straws.}


1.) 04 Jan 2019 23:12:48
I think Brewster is going to be a good one. He seems to be a natural goal scorer.

Whether or not he can make the step up time will tell but i have a good feeling about him and curtis jones also.

I think both will see some serious game time next season.

Im also intrigued by lewis. He's good some good reviews. Cover for robertson next season should see him get a game here and there as well.


2.) 05 Jan 2019 01:12:16
Southampton have an obligation to buy Ings at the end of the season, and it works really well for them since he has been their best player this season. 18 million is a snip for them considering Bournemouth shelled out 20 for Solanke.


3.) 05 Jan 2019 08:30:30
I think most fans liked Ings and really wanted him to succeed at Liverpool but it just didn’t work out through injuries but also to me the style of play. It’s a good move for Ings and good money for Liverpool. I would rather have the money for both Ings and Solanke to invest into one player than have them both or to have Ings back then us fans still wanting a so called higher profile player for Ings to be left on the bench never getting any game time again so why look to bring him back and let’s instead look for a new player for the future.


4.) 05 Jan 2019 09:22:56
Ings didn’t suit our style of play 1 but can’t knock the lad he gave 110% . Same for solanke I think if we are in for a forward it will be a player that can play various positions as Klopp likes the forwards to interchange upfront so I think mobility and awareness are a must in any future forward signing .


5.) 05 Jan 2019 09:46:52
I hope Brewster is learning to play a role across the front 3 because that's the only way I see him getting game time really. A simple one-dimensional striker - like a Sturridge or Solanke - however good they are really won't thrive with our current style of play. And I've no idea how much we ended up paying for Solanke but that sale price seems like a cracking deal for us.


6.) 05 Jan 2019 10:27:29
Brewster is more like Firmino. Presses from the front, pulls into the channels, drops deep to create etc. Certainly not one dimensional.


7.) 05 Jan 2019 10:32:20
Perfect fit then MK. I've never seen him play so couldn't comment really, hope he comes good and gets decent game time.


8.) 05 Jan 2019 09:11:41
What happens to Ings if Southampton get relegated?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


9.) 05 Jan 2019 09:26:02
I hadn’t forgotten that Solanke hasn’t played ED but I haven’t seen anything that hinted at him being sold either so it came out of the blue and that then made me question if that has cause a change in the Ings situation (especially given that he has shown form where he is) .

The answer seems to be no and that’s fine, just a question.

{Ed002's Note - How can it cause a change in the Ings situation?}


10.) 05 Jan 2019 13:38:23
I thought they'd have learn't after the Brad Smith and Jordan Ibe transfers. What is it with Bournemouth paying us more than most would expect for our young players that haven't worked out? I wish Solanke all the best, but it does feel like those transfers in the past.


11.) 05 Jan 2019 13:57:43
We've got good transfer fees on both Ings and Solanke. The Eds won't get into the details of the exact amounts but it does represent good business on two players who will hardly play.

I do worry slightly about squad depth overall but with Origi and Sturridge as back up they were not needed.


12.) 05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


13.) 05 Jan 2019 22:42:47
I’d be quite happy to only have Brewster as back up I don’t see why we need 3 strikers on the bench. brewster will get to be around the first team and actually get chances to play. as Ed002 said in the sharkopod the German teams are looking at young English players, I would think a lot of them will have seen what jadon sancho has achieved by going to Dortmund and might quite fancy the opportunity themselves.


 

 

 

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07 Jul 2019 15:55:09
This is a totally random ................

{Ed002's Note - Not a matter for discussion. Sorry.}


1.) 07 Jul 2019 16:04:37
No worries, I did think it was a bit of a niche topic. Ill have a search elsewhere.

{Ed002's Note - It has caused problems when raised befoe - hence we don't discuss it.}


2.) 07 Jul 2019 17:07:14
Harry being ed001s love child is a bit of a sore subject at the moment.


3.) 07 Jul 2019 19:47:07
. but when you put the lime in the coconut, why do you have to shake it all up? Could you not just leave it stagnant before you drink it all up?


4.) 08 Jul 2019 00:13:25
This is totally random but, fish and custard?


5.) 08 Jul 2019 06:27:01
Why does everything taste better with bacon?


6.) 08 Jul 2019 07:19:53
Who put the bom in the bom de bom de bom?

{Ed002's Note - Thatwould be Aubamalangadingdong.}


7.) 08 Jul 2019 16:23:03
Do you believe in the Chaos theory?


 

 

27 Jun 2019 10:12:17
He's Ginge - He's Tall
He's going to Meg Them All
Van Den Berrrrrrrg
Van Den Berrrrrrrg

(I'm scraping the barrel of transfer excitement here, but it works) .


1.) 27 Jun 2019 11:07:33
Personally prefer a couple of these type signings to shore up the squad and prepare for the future. Then wait for the right attacker to support our strikers.


2.) 27 Jun 2019 20:03:07
Remember perr shurrs young Dutch cb we signed the same way last year and ended up going to ajax.


 

 

02 Jun 2019 21:17:24
There was a mention a while back that it would not totally be out of the question for Keita to leave this window due to various reasons.

Bruno Fernandes has been mentioned and ED2 has made it clear the he looks Manchester bound and would be too pricey for us and would need to be a starter etc.

Fernandes made a pretty strong comment today re our team, that being we are his favourite premier league team and we play better football than City. That writes off City as a prospective employer and also seems misguided if he is going Utd, bad choice of words as best if he is to make friends up there.

Anyway, point of the post:

1: Is there any more info on Nabys future? Any indication things are still not great?

2: Was that just a schoolboy error by Fernandes or is there another reason for the sudden public kudos for us vs other prem teams?

{Ed002's Note - (1) No. (2) I don't know what BF has said, but critically what question was he asked, and by whom?}


1.) 02 Jun 2019 22:21:16
I read it somewhere before the final. The thing is, quite a number of players talked about Liverpool before any transfer and I can't remember any of them joining in the end.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 22:26:58
I found the original quotes in the Portuguese press where Fernandes talks about both Liverpool an Man City. After talking about City's style of play, he's quoted as saying:

"Gosto muito do Liverpool também" before talking about us for a bit.

The Daily Star appear to have translated that as stating he prefers Liverpool to Man City. Google translates it more neutrally, as "I like Liverpool a lot too". Anyone here speak Portuguese and can advise?

I wouldn't read a lot into it anyway.

{Ed002's Note - But what was the question he was asked?}


3.) 02 Jun 2019 22:30:16
In an interview on Friday with De Cadeirinha he was asked about speculation linking him with the PL and he refused to discuss it. The he was asked what he thought of the league and what teams does he prefer. He said this:

I like Liverpool a lot more. It’s a more direct, more offensive, maybe less organised, but more intense football. When you do not have the ball possession you are more intense. ’

‘In Liverpool they are more individual players, especially in the midfield, usually playing three very aggressive players and recovering the ball. Then they have three players at the front who are lethal. When they have the opportunity, to be the difference. ’


As I said, could be misguided/ misplaced if he is headed to United but high praise for us when he was given a chance to sing the praises of any team. The Keita question was just because I remember it being mentioned and there is no way we even look at a big money midfielder unless a starter goes and he is the only slight possibility by my reading of past posts.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks for that. I have explained that there is Liverpool interest and I guess around €90M might get him. As I have said, the AM role is the one I think Liverpool still need to address.}


4.) 02 Jun 2019 23:32:52
But he is most probably on his way to Manchester.


5.) 03 Jun 2019 06:19:30
Is he any good, ed001? Can't say I've seen him play but he's scored 20 goals and nabbed 13 assists this season which is impressive, albeit in a weaker league.

{Ed001's Note - looks it.}


6.) 03 Jun 2019 09:01:17
31 goals in all comps and 19 assists. What's impressive is he's played often as a box to box CM and he works his socks off, lacks any sort of pace and dribbling threat but he's got quality vision, passing, crossing, set pieces, and strikes a sweet ball. His style is probably similar to de bruynes strengths. The main worry for me would be that the Portuguese league in recent years has seen so many of the top performers not able to cut it in the big leagues. His price tag is double his realistic current value though.


7.) 03 Jun 2019 02:16:09
Ed002 do you feel that this 90m fee will actually be met? Would Sporting flat out reject any lower offers? Surely 50 or 60m would tempt them as a realistic offer, or do you think that a club will be silly enough to pay 90?

{Ed002's Note - They will be open to negotiating but €90M is what they have asked of the club Sporting are talking to - so perhaps something in the rgion of €75M to €80M would get a deal agreed - but certainly not €50M.}


 

 

02 Jun 2019 09:40:47
I have a feel that was Salahs last game for us.

Not a troll and very much in line with what Ed2 has been saying re Mo's agent all but begging RM to take him. Not sure why you wouldn't want to stay at the Champions of Europe (apart from money) but something tells me he is off (PSG maybe after they sell some- Even Juve? ) and I get the feeling Mane won't be too sad.

We would of course get a world class replacement and go again.


1.) 02 Jun 2019 10:15:36
Seriously? That's what you are thinking about right now?
Salah is not leaving. Real are spending all their money on Pogba and Hazard, Juve i very much doubt can stomach how much he would cost, and PSG? Seriously? Didn't know Salah dreamt of winning Ligue 1 titles.


2.) 02 Jun 2019 10:22:04
Can we just enjoy that this point and not think about losing players 🤦🏻‍♂️.


3.) 02 Jun 2019 10:22:30
I'd be very surprised to be honest if he leaves this summer. We would demand a huge fee and that would only be considered if he would make attempts to force out id imagine. I don't know what his financial or lifestyle ambitions are but he seems happy as a red from the outset. I'm sure he'll move on in the future at some stage but this summer would shock me, I'm sure it's just his agent doing his job to promote his client around the possible market.


4.) 02 Jun 2019 10:24:22
I'm not sure PSG and Juventus are much of an upgrade on us unless he wants an easy League title each year. Real Madrid need a massive rebuild which will probably take a couple of years at least and their fans have a habit of booing strikers who don't score ten goals a game. Barcelona probably his best bet if he wants a move but they may not be interested.


5.) 02 Jun 2019 10:37:50
Don’t think you realise how big LFC are in world football

With Jurgen leading us and sensible backing from the owners we are on track to eclipse Barcelona as a global brand.

We have the chance over the next few years to be the number one club in football.

We are in the best league we play brilliant football we have Anfield and we are going to be after number 7

If Mo doesn’t want that then fine but really who wouldn’t want to be getting on board for that ride?

Allez Allez Allez.


6.) 02 Jun 2019 10:43:36
Some people honestly. Yeah salah looked unhappy to me last night. Sorry but ed2 might have his / her opinions on the salah situation but I think it's in hope that the ed wants him to move on. If he does go we move on we are Liverpool our world won't come tumbling down. Get a grip an enjoy your day an keep off the green stuff mate.


7.) 02 Jun 2019 10:44:33
Leave if you want but It's all downhill, ask Coutinho.


8.) 02 Jun 2019 10:45:39
I am enjoying the win, I’m not sure how me having an opinion on a player leaving takes the shine off a win of that size?

I didn’t say would go Real Madrid, I said he wanted to go there. If you have a player who doesn’t want to play for you a business must make a judgement call. The wisest thing to do for the team is to capitalise on your investment, he would be one of the highest valued players in the world so why not sell the stock while on a high and give yourself the chance to purchase a comparable replacement.

Maybe he stays for another season and hope his dream move happens next season? If I was Klopp and there was a top or slightly younger alternative who he fancied I’d opt for a player who wants to be here. We’ve seen plenty mentioned on our wish list and get told, “if Salah or Mane leave. ” I’m just saying that it would not be a surprise at all now if Salah pushed a move though on a high.


9.) 02 Jun 2019 10:48:30
No player is bigger than this club, this team and manager. If someone wants to go at the start of something special than see ya. We look forward to knocking you out of Europe.


10.) 02 Jun 2019 10:53:15
Bizarre reaction to winning the final. Find it hard to believe you're not a troll, but assuming you're not. Ed002 has repeatedly said Salah's agent was laughed out of madrid and that they have other first choice targets. Not sure why you'd ignore that if you're going off what he's said.


11.) 02 Jun 2019 11:01:55
I pity for you we have just won 6 European Cups and your posting negative posts, for gods sake "enjoy" the win every true LFC Fan is, suggest you get on the Train it has not reached its destination yet only just left the platform.

P. S. Bet Buck Rodgers is gutted he wanted to sell Henderson to Fulham?


12.) 02 Jun 2019 11:14:06
I think it would be a surprise though becker. I know if Madrid come calling it's hard for anybody to say no, but it depends on what mo wants himself. Many powerhouse clubs have hit the point of needing rebuild. Bayern Barcelona Madrid need to plan to get back to stable success. They are constantly changing managers and need to settle, juve too are a step behind and PSG also when competing in Europe. He would be taking a risk moving to a club in his peak years who aren't yet set up to be the best. He should play for us and try achieve the historic league medal and maybe in a year or 2 if a huge club are set up to be successful his move would be less risk. That's only what I think is best for his football career but of course there's so much more that players consider.


13.) 02 Jun 2019 11:20:29
Couldn’t care either way, wouldn’t lose any sleep. We are built on hard work and team spirit not superstar egos (not saying Salah has a huge ego) . We’ve been through this with Coutinho and Suarez and look where we are last night. If these players want to move on then so be it, I’d rather support the likes of Milner, Hendo and Robbo. players who love wearing the red jersey!
Anyway, for now it’s time to celebrate last nights achievements! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆.


14.) 02 Jun 2019 11:38:08
Salah said to BT sport that he's staying because he said he wants to win it next year.


15.) 02 Jun 2019 11:38:23
Thanks for at least understanding the point I made Har. Some seem to forget it’s a rumours page and there’s no deny he looked off.

I’d prefer he stay and play with his head up and 100% but I am being realistic. There is no other bigger team in Europe (other than City) so he would be taking a step back / sideways at best.

I am enjoying the 6 but reflecting on something that is clearly an issue and one that needs to be sorted post season one way or another. Get your head back in the team or let us make good money off of you and find someone who does want to play for us.


16.) 02 Jun 2019 11:39:34
Maybe I'm too loyal and don't properly understand the concept of players as transient employees, and I am aware his agent's been touting him, but I'm going to wait until Salah puts in a transfer request, feigns a back injury, refuses to play or train or just generally stops giving a toss on the pitch before I start willing him out the door.


17.) 02 Jun 2019 11:58:00
Get your heads together lads . We just won the European cup stop pissing on the parade nothing else at our club matters right now let’s enjoy the moment eh.


18.) 02 Jun 2019 12:30:43
Left off TAA Welsh. What a tremendous representative of the club. Boyhood dream comes true.


19.) 02 Jun 2019 13:18:23
The question that spings to my mind every time something like this comes up is this.
Who would actually choose to live in England? Especially considering having options like Spain or Italy, and that wherever you go it's going to be in the nicer areas.


20.) 02 Jun 2019 13:22:30
Salah is going nowhere. Forget the days of bately qualifyinh for cl. We are european royalty and reigning champions. Who would want to leave. He was a o happy last night. He isn't going anywhere.


21.) 02 Jun 2019 13:16:53
Err OP, you know when they say, "Timing is everything"? Maybe you should employ this reasoning nest time cos after we just have a season of a lifetime. After we just won our SIXTH CL trophy and all the history that comes with it, this is what is more important to you right now?


22.) 02 Jun 2019 15:46:25
Exactly Red, I agree with you.

After the season of a lifetime and winning the CL you'd expect our so called best player to

A: Want to stay
B: Show the loyalty that we put in him

I really have no interest in comments questioning my timing or lack of enjoyment, if you couldn't see that the guy wants 100% in his attitude or play then you are deluding yourself. I have the brainpower to celebrate MY team winning the champions league but at the same time want a quick resolution to a serious problem. Mane and Firminho need someone who is 100% on the same. page and you saw in their faces at actions coming off at HT that they were not happy with him.

8 weeks until the start of the season. If he is going it needs sorting and his replacing within the next 3-4 weeks so i’d prefer to not waste time. Similar if he wants to stay, some responding and building between the front 3 is needed.

None of you are the klopp, the owners or Salahs team so don’t let it ruin your enjoyment of the season.


23.) 03 Jun 2019 00:46:11
Enjoy the moment.

Enjoy the moment.

Smile. Six times.


 

 

08 May 2019 12:37:39
What a glorious morning to be a red (and we still haven't won anything)

Quick question for Ed2 if possible. A lot has been said and touched upon by yourself regarding Liverpool's tight financials. These are complex and a struggle for fans to fathom but I take from what you have said over the months that we are maxed out currently. A CL win is financially beneficial of course and without quoting numbers of our deficit or gains from a win could you give me an indication as how much of an actual relief it will be to the current situation. Without quoting figures would it potentially be 10/ 15/ 20% of our current debt as a total return for all elements that we gain from a win? I won't ask the same question for a league win as that isn't realistic imo.

{Ed002's Note - It depends what the club decides to do with regards to paying off third party and owner debt - but the club are constrained in respect of additional monies that can be provided by the owners.}


1.) 08 May 2019 13:08:46
Thanks. I guess it’s a positive either way but I did think from what you have said previous that debt would/ should be a priority. I was just trying to get a grasp on the reality before the expected cries for £200 mil plus worth of new players if we win.

{Ed002's Note - The debt should be addressed. The owners obviously have the option to turn the debt in to equity but you must remember that they are an investment fund out to make money.}


2.) 08 May 2019 13:24:01
There is a school of thought that suggests having an amount of debt is an efficient means of running a business, however I don't know what the actual level is within the club and whether or not it's gone beyond the tipping point for good debt Vs bad debt.

{Ed002's Note - Well obviously Liverpool can decide to ignore FFP and take whatever consequences there are.}


3.) 08 May 2019 14:24:29
Works for City Ed002 tee hee.

{Ed002's Note - How did it work for Manchester City?}


4.) 08 May 2019 14:36:04
With FFP around now, having debt has become a delicate issue.


 

 

 

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06 Jul 2019 21:55:01
Thanks Ed. Good job I didn't have a bet then, ill lay him off to all the people who believe it .


 

 

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06 Jul 2019 17:06:46
Controversial and winds people up but Im still not sure that Salah doesnt leave this window if the Merry Go Round starts up. Id prefer Pepe if he did but a loan to buy deal for Dembele could make sense if the worry is his previous injuries. Like you say, it doesnt help Barcelona with funding their main targets. Im dismissing it but I do love a rumour that drops the odds market as Im a sports trader myself and can take advantage of rumours like this even if they are false.


 

 

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27 Jun 2019 14:40:51
Hahaha ok, I sense its a contentious issue.

Well Id hope these lads have a decent grasp of the language as its taught in most European schools from an early age and if not, the time spent with tutors here while in education brings them up to the required standard quickly to at least check that off the list.

{Ed002's Note - He is from a country where he will have been taught perfectly good English it won't be an issue.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2019 14:24:36
Ed, what are the restrictions on training for U18s and is there a requirement for them to stay in education until they are 18?

Also, thinking about the other issue we have discussed, at what stage do they need a T2 or T3 work permit? As in, are youth players given extra leeway to obtain the relevant experience and knowledge required?

{Ed002's Note - There is no point in opening all of this up. It will simply lead to the Liverpool suppoirters looking for ways for the club to cheat.}


 

 

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24 Jun 2019 20:38:35
No worries, thanks for the reply.

I'm assuming he has 2+ years left on his contract so as a lamen I guess that allowing for his wages (minus that of his replacements) and resale value reduction it wouldn't be too much of an issue and one less piece of the pre season puzzle to worry about. That being if he was truly happy to be second string. His professionalism has been nothing short of outstanding this season so id be very happy if it was true.


 

 

 

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16 Jul 2019 11:55:21
Ed, this would seem like an insane question but WHY would any team want him? Surely the combination of attitude, repeat (and in some cases light) injuries and questionable form/ behavior when playing makes him a huge risk for any side involved?

He seems to have gone from one of the best prospects in the world to poisoned chalice. Add that to his current price tag and wages he makes Sanchez look like an investment prospect and I never thought id say that.

{Ed001's Note - because he can play if he wants to.}


 

 

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07 Jul 2019 16:04:37
No worries, I did think it was a bit of a niche topic. Ill have a search elsewhere.

{Ed002's Note - It has caused problems when raised befoe - hence we don't discuss it.}


 

 

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27 Jun 2019 11:03:03
It wouldnt be the first time and most definitely wont be the last. Thats why I am here to learn.

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27 Jun 2019 10:22:02
Probably my ignorance but I remember some question over his permit not being granted initially due to new criteria in 2015 around a top-10 FIFA-ranked national playing in 30 per cent of their games in the past two years?

Iirc the confederations cup took him over this level or similar. I assumed that if you fit that criteria you are automatically granted a permit without the additional requirements (I. e language tests), I guess from your reply that I am wrong and they apply to all players?

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27 Jun 2019 08:10:48
Bobbys English speaking isnt fantastic but then again he got an automatic work permit so its not imperative that he has a passable level (which he does) and cant lose his right to play.

Youd think that alone would put a rocket up Nabys backside. I had hoped he would grow out of his carefree attitude when getting a shot in the big league but it doesnt look like it. or he is just plain stupid but even then the club would help him over the line.

{Ed002's Note - What is an "automatic work permit"? He has to meet the same criteria as anyone else.}