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05 May 2019 00:40:23
I have heard from a contact that Klopp has a keen interest in Leroy Sane and as part of his planning for the summer (should a space become available due to a first team player leaving) he has asked to be keep in the loop on the players situation.

Have any of the Ed's heard similar? The guy who told me isn't your typical moron and does hear reliable info occasionally about various teams.

{Ed002's Note - Obviously Sane was an option in the past - going forward if Mane were to leave this summer Sane might be considered again by the club - but I am not aware of any approach to Manchester City asking to be "kept informed" at all.}


1.) 05 May 2019 10:32:35
I would love Sane in our team but you must be smoking something over there if you think Guardiola would sell him to us for a reasonable price!


2.) 05 May 2019 10:36:55
No chance unless Mane goes which is unlikely since Real will probably get Hazard.
Plus I doubt we have that sort of money City would want to part ways with him.


3.) 05 May 2019 11:27:18
Cover for the front three is definitely what we need. Sane is unrealistic, I'd take a chance on Zaha from palace. Can play wide and upfront, he's not lazy. Maybe worth a look reds?


4.) 05 May 2019 12:27:20
Does anyone know .....

{Ed002's Note - Wrong page, this is the Liverpool page.}


5.) 05 May 2019 12:43:29
LiverpoolFC8, I think Zaha has found his natural level at Crystal Palace. I don’t think he is good enough for Liverpool. But who would have thought Robbo would turn out this good?


6.) 05 May 2019 12:53:55
the way to San Jose?


7.) 05 May 2019 13:32:30
Nicolas pepe, or chuckweeze of villareal for me.


8.) 05 May 2019 14:56:23
Big Ed001, would you shell out for CAM next season if you were a manager? Assuming we don't lose any players to transfers.
Or would you try out some of the youth that looks good at the moment? Kent/ Wilson/ Brewster?

{Ed001's Note - Brewster is not really a CAM from what I have seen. Kent is nowhere near good enough and I have my doubts about Wilson. It really depends on who goes as to who we need to buy though.}


9.) 05 May 2019 20:55:18
Kent is gone, Wilson will probably have pre season to prove himself.

I think lallana should go and get regular game time somewhere else but i doubt people will want someone who spends so much time on the treatment table. it's unfortunate as he does offer something different when he doesn't dally on the ball.

Shaqiri, difficult one as ed says he was good at the start then Klopp got frustrated with him but apparently now he is firing on all cylinders, so we shall see he is a useful option but if we can get a decent return then maybe.

I am assuming we will look to bring someone in, to help cover the front line as well as we are severly short up front for back up/ other options.

Brewster is looking sharp in training and i have high hopes for him but sturridge is gone.


10.) 06 May 2019 09:49:33
The Juicer I see you have watched Helix haha
Anyway I can’t see city ever selling any of their first team players to us especially Sane.


 

 

04 Jan 2019 21:23:05
Is there any foreseeable way that we choose to keep Ings at the end of his loan period rather than complete the move?

As in a solid amount of form that would be comparable with our 2nd string CF or the sale of Sturridge and Solanke and Danny offered a chance to rotate/ challenge with Bobby?

I guess I wouldn't have considered it until Solanke was sold but I don't see Sturridge or Origi being real alternatives that can ever challenge and surely you need that to maintain a hungry and sharp CF. (Not doubting bobby in that area, just thinking as a whole in a squad)

{Ed002's Note - Sure, make an offer to buy him off Southampton after they buy him. You all seem to have forgotten that Solanke has not played this season. Ings if he returns won't play. May as well sell Brewster as he has zero chance with Liverpool fans clutching at straws.}


1.) 04 Jan 2019 23:12:48
I think Brewster is going to be a good one. He seems to be a natural goal scorer.

Whether or not he can make the step up time will tell but i have a good feeling about him and curtis jones also.

I think both will see some serious game time next season.

Im also intrigued by lewis. He's good some good reviews. Cover for robertson next season should see him get a game here and there as well.


2.) 05 Jan 2019 01:12:16
Southampton have an obligation to buy Ings at the end of the season, and it works really well for them since he has been their best player this season. 18 million is a snip for them considering Bournemouth shelled out 20 for Solanke.


3.) 05 Jan 2019 08:30:30
I think most fans liked Ings and really wanted him to succeed at Liverpool but it just didn’t work out through injuries but also to me the style of play. It’s a good move for Ings and good money for Liverpool. I would rather have the money for both Ings and Solanke to invest into one player than have them both or to have Ings back then us fans still wanting a so called higher profile player for Ings to be left on the bench never getting any game time again so why look to bring him back and let’s instead look for a new player for the future.


4.) 05 Jan 2019 09:22:56
Ings didn’t suit our style of play 1 but can’t knock the lad he gave 110% . Same for solanke I think if we are in for a forward it will be a player that can play various positions as Klopp likes the forwards to interchange upfront so I think mobility and awareness are a must in any future forward signing .


5.) 05 Jan 2019 09:46:52
I hope Brewster is learning to play a role across the front 3 because that's the only way I see him getting game time really. A simple one-dimensional striker - like a Sturridge or Solanke - however good they are really won't thrive with our current style of play. And I've no idea how much we ended up paying for Solanke but that sale price seems like a cracking deal for us.


6.) 05 Jan 2019 10:27:29
Brewster is more like Firmino. Presses from the front, pulls into the channels, drops deep to create etc. Certainly not one dimensional.


7.) 05 Jan 2019 10:32:20
Perfect fit then MK. I've never seen him play so couldn't comment really, hope he comes good and gets decent game time.


8.) 05 Jan 2019 09:11:41
What happens to Ings if Southampton get relegated?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


9.) 05 Jan 2019 09:26:02
I hadn’t forgotten that Solanke hasn’t played ED but I haven’t seen anything that hinted at him being sold either so it came out of the blue and that then made me question if that has cause a change in the Ings situation (especially given that he has shown form where he is) .

The answer seems to be no and that’s fine, just a question.

{Ed002's Note - How can it cause a change in the Ings situation?}


10.) 05 Jan 2019 13:38:23
I thought they'd have learn't after the Brad Smith and Jordan Ibe transfers. What is it with Bournemouth paying us more than most would expect for our young players that haven't worked out? I wish Solanke all the best, but it does feel like those transfers in the past.


11.) 05 Jan 2019 13:57:43
We've got good transfer fees on both Ings and Solanke. The Eds won't get into the details of the exact amounts but it does represent good business on two players who will hardly play.

I do worry slightly about squad depth overall but with Origi and Sturridge as back up they were not needed.


12.) 05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


13.) 05 Jan 2019 22:42:47
I’d be quite happy to only have Brewster as back up I don’t see why we need 3 strikers on the bench. brewster will get to be around the first team and actually get chances to play. as Ed002 said in the sharkopod the German teams are looking at young English players, I would think a lot of them will have seen what jadon sancho has achieved by going to Dortmund and might quite fancy the opportunity themselves.


 

 

 

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08 May 2019 12:37:39
What a glorious morning to be a red (and we still haven't won anything)

Quick question for Ed2 if possible. A lot has been said and touched upon by yourself regarding Liverpool's tight financials. These are complex and a struggle for fans to fathom but I take from what you have said over the months that we are maxed out currently. A CL win is financially beneficial of course and without quoting numbers of our deficit or gains from a win could you give me an indication as how much of an actual relief it will be to the current situation. Without quoting figures would it potentially be 10/ 15/ 20% of our current debt as a total return for all elements that we gain from a win? I won't ask the same question for a league win as that isn't realistic imo.

{Ed002's Note - It depends what the club decides to do with regards to paying off third party and owner debt - but the club are constrained in respect of additional monies that can be provided by the owners.}


1.) 08 May 2019 13:08:46
Thanks. I guess it’s a positive either way but I did think from what you have said previous that debt would/ should be a priority. I was just trying to get a grasp on the reality before the expected cries for £200 mil plus worth of new players if we win.

{Ed002's Note - The debt should be addressed. The owners obviously have the option to turn the debt in to equity but you must remember that they are an investment fund out to make money.}


2.) 08 May 2019 13:24:01
There is a school of thought that suggests having an amount of debt is an efficient means of running a business, however I don't know what the actual level is within the club and whether or not it's gone beyond the tipping point for good debt Vs bad debt.

{Ed002's Note - Well obviously Liverpool can decide to ignore FFP and take whatever consequences there are.}


3.) 08 May 2019 14:24:29
Works for City Ed002 tee hee.

{Ed002's Note - How did it work for Manchester City?}


4.) 08 May 2019 14:36:04
With FFP around now, having debt has become a delicate issue.


 

 

07 May 2019 16:05:52
Brewster is being let off the leash tonight. The kid has nothing to prove and all to gain.

2+ Brewster goals is 12/ 1 - I'm throwing my support and money behind the lad.

Make yourself a hero!


1.) 07 May 2019 16:31:16
12/ 1 is that it?!

The bookies clearly worried about a romping.


2.) 07 May 2019 16:45:01
I’d think twice about 12/ 1 if it were mane to score twice, that’s awful odds for someone who may not even play, and hasn’t played this season.


3.) 07 May 2019 16:57:01
The kid is a goal scoring machine with faultless stats at every level. The bookies aren’t silly, they see natural talent. No pressure on him here for me, I think he will go out and enjoy it and a striker who enjoys their game has the potential to score plenty. Sod it, I’ll have a bit on the 3+ at 66/ 1 as well.


4.) 07 May 2019 17:36:30
Bookies don't see natural talent. Do you think they are spying at Liverpools training ground? I will be stunned if he starts and it will be the biggest shock ever if he gets 2 goals. The wee lad hasn't even played 1 minute of first team football this season and you think he is going to run Barcelona amoke? he's not Messi.


5.) 07 May 2019 18:31:56
bookies see talent? lol more like they see dollars coming from gullible punters haha.


6.) 07 May 2019 19:02:48
We are 3 down to Barcelona, we can all agree that we need a miracle. Apologies for daring to dream and for giving you what would be the best kind of miracle.

It wasn’t a tip and for the record his goal to game ratio is public knowledge so the bookies don’t need to spy and quite a few people also know he won the golden boot at the WC. Dare to dream folks, have some hope. That’s all we have left now.


7.) 07 May 2019 21:16:22
well its 2-0 now, whos dreaming? This is why I love Liverpool. and as I type its 3-0!


 

 

24 Apr 2019 11:38:29
I've been critical of some replies by Ed02 in the past and we have butted heads but on some self reflection I didn't appreciate what must be the exhaustive frustration he gets when trying to share legitimate views and information at a level that won't confuse or wind up the less than intelligent faction of the forum.

The insane fall out from the Klopp comment is a prime example. He has for years (when the events actually happened) explained what was done wrong and right in approaches and sales and it's no surprise to long time readers that Klopp has been unprofessional at best in his general transfer conduct.

Let's put the benefit of knowledge and experience together with the years of valid explanations and accept that Ed knows better than us and wouldn't make it up.

Thanks to ALL the Eds for a mainly thankless and difficult job in dealing with us lot. It really is appreciated.


1.) 24 Apr 2019 12:02:15
We all love Klopp he’s doing great things on the pitch for us and really assembling a group of players that could have us competing at the top for years. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have his faults whatever they may be. Why should we deny he has these faults. He won’t be the first and last player/ coach to have negatives but still be loved by fans. But Ed’s is pointing out facs and facts that many of us have no idea about and that’s why we read this forum in the first place. We can’t have everything as butterfly’s and rainbows sometimes we will read things we don’t like but that’s life and that’s the way it is. People need to grow up except things for what they are and greatful we get the information in the first place.


2.) 24 Apr 2019 12:29:41
It's just to take the focus off the fact we are brilliant at the minute. Let's concentrate on winning the league and Champions League instead of listening to drivel. Believe.


3.) 24 Apr 2019 12:37:04
Mourinho cheated and hid in a laundry basket, Clough punched several of his own fans. The list goes on. Klopp has deceived authorities and whatever else he did and Ed002 has an opinion on him which is fair enough. I for one don't really care, I don't know klopp personally and never will so I don't "like" or "dislike" him. He is just the manager of the team I support and that's it. People shouldn't take things so personally.


4.) 24 Apr 2019 13:18:37
Well said stuie. I tend to think Ed002 has his nose out of joint about much of what we lfc fans tend to think. I also think this is largely warranted. Klopp is no saint and ed knows this more than any of us do, so cos we need his info more than he needs our attitude, just pull your heads in lads.


5.) 24 Apr 2019 13:31:00
The way I see it, the ed's put a hell of a lot of work into this site, and provide us with information that we cannot get anywhere else. They are human beings (at least, most of them are), and they have their own views, morals and opinions. If any Ed expresses these views and you disagree with them, don't get pi$$y about it and attack the person who gave us their views, be confident enough in your own opinions to (silently) disagree and move on. If I were in Ed002's clown shoes, I would have snapped a long time ago, listening to all the crap he gets (and all the crap he gets that never even reaches the site for us to see), and I would almost definitely try my best to wind up and call out anyone who decided to take a personal shot at me for expressing my opinions on a site that I help run!

If you ran a shop, and had a steady stream of customers coming in and abusing you, you'd shut the doors and never open them again. let's hope the Ed's of this site never do the metaphorical equivalent.


6.) 24 Apr 2019 13:46:46
Wow Rugby, a fan using a metaphor! Wonders will never cease 😀.


7.) 24 Apr 2019 14:04:52
I don't mind his opinion. But we know it. And I feel it doesn't need racking up every few months. As it's common knowledge and we all including Ed002 know it's going to cause problems! Cringe to say it. But c'mon Utd!


8.) 24 Apr 2019 14:29:09
Theres a few people on the site who can't take any criticism of Liverpool, be it a fair critique or just banter. Its a shame, but it happens. Its a small minority but a couple of them seem to have multiple accounts which explains the downvotes. Either way its never great to see the eds (Ed002 and Ed025) in particular on the receiving ends of it with the work they put in.

It also extends to some posters. I regularly see Salah's incredibly innocuous posts down voted for seemingly no reason. Not sure what possesses people to be like that but its worth taking a step back sometimes and gathering a little perspective.


9.) 24 Apr 2019 15:30:18
Exactly Coco9.


 

 

02 Jan 2019
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Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, When you watch Bird Box in the morning and put 3 past Arsenal at night.


 

 

28 Dec 2018 14:23:19
Oxlade-Chamberlain is now training outside and he has had NO reaction to it. Klopp expects him to be training with the full squad February or March at the latest.

That's great news for the club but even better news for Alex. I wish him a speedy and safe return from here.


1.) 28 Dec 2018 18:54:13
OP, Ox's only started doing running drills. He is yet to kick a ball. Let's just let him recover at his own pace and let's see what happens.


 

 

 

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30 Apr 2019 10:11:43
Brandt will be interesting.

We may get to see a perfect example of everything that Ed2 has said and taught us around how we over pay and are punished in the market. It will also be a good example in how ’release clauses’ are potentially irrelevant and how papers talk trash.

A player with a widely reported £21.5m clause (apparently), I don't expect Eds to talk money but I can't see us paying less than £40m if we went for him.


 

 

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25 Apr 2019 18:29:18
He hasn't been offered a contract yet and there has just been a mention of talks opening. He may well have the ambition to ask for playing guarantees (a beast that the Eds have said is a key element of a players contract nowadays) and I can't imagine a huge financial increase so he may look for sureties elsewhere and turn down a bit part role.


 

 

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24 Apr 2019 19:15:23
Not old ”give them a new deal just prior to punting them around” scam?

I like the kid but wouldn't be confident starting a season with him as 3rd choice CB behind JG and VVD.


 

 

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19 Mar 2019 07:31:50
A swap deal for Varane (who is considering his own position) is the best outcome if Mane’s head is turned.


 

 

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05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


 

 

 

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13 May 2019 22:00:45
This page is spiralling out of control and becoming a joke.

Good question and simple answer, the prem is more important to any English club than the Champions League. More important to those who have never won one. It’s a shame that decent debates are being ruined by childish accounts and their fake alter egos who are butt hurt.

One of the best seasons in 30 years and this is how you reward yourselves. I miss the days of YNWA.


 

 

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09 May 2019 10:05:01
Being a bench or squad player in a team that gets promoted to the Prem must be an emotional time. You have that feeling of being part of a huge success but know that the end is neigh and you won't get to enjoy the fruits of the teams labour.

Sheffield being the perfect example, the cleaners haven't even finished picking up the rubbish in the stadium from their last game and half the squad are on the list or in the skip with bin bags full of pie wrappers.

I appreciate they are all professionals and understand that its a business but I don't think you would get more of a massive high and huge crash down to earth in football than this.

{Ed001's Note - not always. Wolves promoted one of their squad players to the first team and he is suddenly everyone's favourite fantasy football player. In case you are wondering I mean Docherty, who was expected to be one of the first out of the door at the club after promotion.}


 

 

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09 May 2019 09:11:14
Don't let your posting fame go to your head Salah.

Your infectious optimism is a thing of beauty but I can see how it (if take as pure gospel) comes across as somewhat deluded. You can not be blamed for how people read or take your posts but you can be blamed for inciting the madness in comments like your last one that do nothing more than incite more trouble for a site that you seemingly love.

Just stop and have a think before there is irreversible damage.


 

 

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09 May 2019 09:02:23
That's what I was referring to Ed, I assumed it was missed as I kept seeing mention of Kane being ready. They don't seem to show any lack of confidence without him and on that night any permutation of 11 will be dangerous.


 

 

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09 May 2019 08:23:40
A lot of people seem sure that Kane will be back?

I didn't think he was due back until a lot later than June 1st and even if they do he has lost his match fitness. Not ideal for them IF he even rushes back.

{Ed002's Note - I have answered this already.}