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04 Jan 2019 21:23:05
Is there any foreseeable way that we choose to keep Ings at the end of his loan period rather than complete the move?

As in a solid amount of form that would be comparable with our 2nd string CF or the sale of Sturridge and Solanke and Danny offered a chance to rotate/ challenge with Bobby?

I guess I wouldn't have considered it until Solanke was sold but I don't see Sturridge or Origi being real alternatives that can ever challenge and surely you need that to maintain a hungry and sharp CF. (Not doubting bobby in that area, just thinking as a whole in a squad)

{Ed002's Note - Sure, make an offer to buy him off Southampton after they buy him. You all seem to have forgotten that Solanke has not played this season. Ings if he returns won't play. May as well sell Brewster as he has zero chance with Liverpool fans clutching at straws.}


1.) 04 Jan 2019 23:12:48
I think Brewster is going to be a good one. He seems to be a natural goal scorer.

Whether or not he can make the step up time will tell but i have a good feeling about him and curtis jones also.

I think both will see some serious game time next season.

Im also intrigued by lewis. He's good some good reviews. Cover for robertson next season should see him get a game here and there as well.


2.) 05 Jan 2019 01:12:16
Southampton have an obligation to buy Ings at the end of the season, and it works really well for them since he has been their best player this season. 18 million is a snip for them considering Bournemouth shelled out 20 for Solanke.


3.) 05 Jan 2019 08:30:30
I think most fans liked Ings and really wanted him to succeed at Liverpool but it just didn’t work out through injuries but also to me the style of play. It’s a good move for Ings and good money for Liverpool. I would rather have the money for both Ings and Solanke to invest into one player than have them both or to have Ings back then us fans still wanting a so called higher profile player for Ings to be left on the bench never getting any game time again so why look to bring him back and let’s instead look for a new player for the future.


4.) 05 Jan 2019 09:22:56
Ings didn’t suit our style of play 1 but can’t knock the lad he gave 110% . Same for solanke I think if we are in for a forward it will be a player that can play various positions as Klopp likes the forwards to interchange upfront so I think mobility and awareness are a must in any future forward signing .


5.) 05 Jan 2019 09:46:52
I hope Brewster is learning to play a role across the front 3 because that's the only way I see him getting game time really. A simple one-dimensional striker - like a Sturridge or Solanke - however good they are really won't thrive with our current style of play. And I've no idea how much we ended up paying for Solanke but that sale price seems like a cracking deal for us.


6.) 05 Jan 2019 10:27:29
Brewster is more like Firmino. Presses from the front, pulls into the channels, drops deep to create etc. Certainly not one dimensional.


7.) 05 Jan 2019 10:32:20
Perfect fit then MK. I've never seen him play so couldn't comment really, hope he comes good and gets decent game time.


8.) 05 Jan 2019 09:11:41
What happens to Ings if Southampton get relegated?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing.}


9.) 05 Jan 2019 09:26:02
I hadn’t forgotten that Solanke hasn’t played ED but I haven’t seen anything that hinted at him being sold either so it came out of the blue and that then made me question if that has cause a change in the Ings situation (especially given that he has shown form where he is) .

The answer seems to be no and that’s fine, just a question.

{Ed002's Note - How can it cause a change in the Ings situation?}


10.) 05 Jan 2019 13:38:23
I thought they'd have learn't after the Brad Smith and Jordan Ibe transfers. What is it with Bournemouth paying us more than most would expect for our young players that haven't worked out? I wish Solanke all the best, but it does feel like those transfers in the past.


11.) 05 Jan 2019 13:57:43
We've got good transfer fees on both Ings and Solanke. The Eds won't get into the details of the exact amounts but it does represent good business on two players who will hardly play.

I do worry slightly about squad depth overall but with Origi and Sturridge as back up they were not needed.


12.) 05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


13.) 05 Jan 2019 22:42:47
I’d be quite happy to only have Brewster as back up I don’t see why we need 3 strikers on the bench. brewster will get to be around the first team and actually get chances to play. as Ed002 said in the sharkopod the German teams are looking at young English players, I would think a lot of them will have seen what jadon sancho has achieved by going to Dortmund and might quite fancy the opportunity themselves.


 

 

 

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28 Dec 2018 14:23:19
Oxlade-Chamberlain is now training outside and he has had NO reaction to it. Klopp expects him to be training with the full squad February or March at the latest.

That's great news for the club but even better news for Alex. I wish him a speedy and safe return from here.


1.) 28 Dec 2018 18:54:13
OP, Ox's only started doing running drills. He is yet to kick a ball. Let's just let him recover at his own pace and let's see what happens.


 

 

18 Dec 2018 11:19:42
I see him lifting weights and sprinting on a treadmill in social media photos but do we have an official update or revised (Dec was originally mentioned) prediction on when Oxlade-Chamberlain will be back in full time training?

{Ed002's Note - No. Clubs don't provide that type of information. They provide regular updates about injured players but not such detail.}


1.) 18 Dec 2018 13:04:18
Ok, thanks Ed. I think that’s me playing too much football manager and expecting a date of return. I guess keeping an eye on his social media is the most informative option then.


2.) 18 Dec 2018 14:00:16
Hope he comes back strong! The Ox was playing out of his mind just before he got injured. First name on the team sheet for me in the latter half of the season. I really questioned Klopp signing him but he made me eat my words pretty quickly! A midfield of Ox, Keita and Fab would be unreal with all of them playing well.


3.) 18 Dec 2018 19:59:06
Same here RH, the kid was outstanding. I guess I’m just wishing him back at the latter stages. He would be such an asset in the last 8 weeks of the season, hungry and determined and not playing in Europe (if we are still in) . Fresh legs just when we may need them. If not then at least it will be like having a brilliant new signing come next season.


4.) 18 Dec 2018 20:28:06
Next season is my best guess.


5.) 19 Dec 2018 00:13:56
Hopefully he'll be back for pre-season, we've missed him at times this season!


6.) 19 Dec 2018 07:49:24
last thing I see Ox say he was hoping to get few run outs near the end of the season then a full preseason ready for next season. He said he was running on the grass now on the pitch next to the rest of the team. And he can't wait to start working with the ball soon.
I hope we don't need him and he can just have few late sub appearance's at the end of the season. nice if he could come on for 5 if we win the league.


 

 

05 Dec 2018 11:41:29
2018 - A plan

Beat Burnley tonight
Beat Bournmouth in the early game.
1 Point clear at the top.

City then have to go to the bridge and play Chelsea. They will lose that.

We play United at home at the best possible time to face them. They are in chaos and trash.

A run of away games for City
A run of home games for us.

We could conceivably be ahead of them or at least on the same points on the 31st.

January 1st - We play City.

If we win that, we could be in store for one hell of a 2019.

As much as we look at Citys form and fear the worst, they must look at their 2018 fixtures and be concerned that there are clear points there to drop.

Let's not automatically fear the worst. It is equally possible that we are 3/ 4/ 5/ 6 points clear on the 2nd of Jan. We are still very much in this.


1.) 05 Dec 2018 13:17:09
I wish i thought like this. But unfortunately polar opposite opinions.
By the time mentioned i feel we could be 6 or more points behind. Come the city game we be lucky to get a draw. And tgen city uncathable by then.
Still have a feeling Arsenal will make a charge up the table.


2.) 05 Dec 2018 13:17:19
Look man just understand what ed01,ed333,klopp, vvd, etc say. We SHOULD NOT LOOK AT CITY. WE SHOULD LOOK AT US ND NLY US. When we lost it last time 13/ 14 we lost due to us nly not due to city. so please forget about city and look at us. If they drop points well good if they don't then what have we to loose? we are Liverpool fans, we love our club more than anything in our worlds. Everyone has their own way of supporting but please don't giv a damn about other clubs.

But P. S. : I do hope we thrash united and moaninho gets d sack


YnWA.


3.) 05 Dec 2018 13:18:59
We shouldn't take wins for granted.

Let's just concentrate on the Burnley game and take things 1 game at a time.

Why will City definitley lose to Chelsea at Stamford bridge? They didn't last year and are a much better team than Chelsea.

Why will we definitely beat United in the league? we haven't done that in 4 years.

Id love nothing more than to see it happen but let's focus on Burnley first and worry about everything else as it comes.


4.) 05 Dec 2018 13:20:26
I would argue that it is not quite equally possible given that Citeh have played 100 point football for 60 odd games. Yes we are still in it but to be fair, Lord Guardiola makes it almost impossible to rest players because of the pace that his charges set. Ultimately, I can see us picking up more injuries and getting more tired than them by Jan 3rd. I would be inclined to think that the race finishes on Jan 3rd.


5.) 05 Dec 2018 13:34:17
January 3rd we play city I think but yes mate exactly, great post, about time we see more posts like this! Come the 3rd we'll be top, no doubt and we'll remain top as well.


6.) 05 Dec 2018 13:55:42
Lol livebird, we don't want Jose to get the tin tack mate, the longer he's there the better.


7.) 05 Dec 2018 14:04:42
Sorry, it’s the 3rd

I think it’s natural to look at your direct competition and it’s only what we have been all doing every season forever. What is different is looking at it with a pure defeatist attitude. It could go one way or the other this month and as long as we have a chance, I’ll be looking on the positive but I’ll still have City in my sights and thoughts all the way.


8.) 05 Dec 2018 14:06:27
Walter do you happen to work as a risk assessor? Or in a health and safety department? I think there is definitely a career in being a miserable sod somewhere that you’re missing out on, if not.


9.) 05 Dec 2018 14:23:24
Performances matter, we were lucky enough against Everton to get the 3 points, and not be 4 points behind.
I would think City at home are favourites against any team in the world, RM/ Barca included. I would expect them to at least beat us on the 3rd, maybe they drop points elsewhere. I would say just chill, there's a long season to go!


10.) 05 Dec 2018 20:30:30
Dont forget that we play Wolves in the FA Cup, thank you FA, just 3 days after the City game, so lots of big games coming up, I can see why Klopp is giving some players a rest tonight, we could see more of Matip if Gomez is out for a while . going to be hard to get 3 points tonight, Burnley trying hard .


11.) 05 Dec 2018 20:31:33
It’s best to take it one game at a time and see where you are at the end of the season, we are in a good position for a title race though.


12.) 05 Dec 2018 20:32:35
your'e right - key is winning these 2 away games this week
Keep the pressure on the Citeh-
I fancy us beating anyone at fortress Anfield.
City away then will be huge.


13.) 05 Dec 2018 20:34:37
You just jinxed it now we will lose the game today.


14.) 05 Dec 2018 23:29:17
I could be wrong but didn't we score more points than city post Xmas last season and we're within two this season, not bad if true.


 

 

04 Nov 2018 23:08:15
It's that time of the season again when reality sets in, the inevitable is going to happen and we will fall short in the league and win nothing else,

It's the time of the season I like to call "Who is going to leave us for a more successful club? "

Here are my Top 3 picks for this summer:

Mane - City
Bobby - Spain bound, thanks for trying.
Fabinho - Bayern or PSG

Salah saga will be dragged out but he will be priced out and begrudgingly stay. Big big for VVD but we will keep him.

Then one last chance for Klopp next season.

{Ed025's Note - i cant believe how negative some of you are after earning a good point at arsenal?..


1.) 04 Nov 2018 23:24:08
This is ridiculous! We are unbeaten in the league. We get a draw away from home against a very good arsenal side. joint 2nd place.

Why would City sign Mane? their wide areas are pretty stocked.
Why would Bobby move. Our style is play is central to him. He would not get that elsewhere.
Bayern are a mess at the moment and need to overhaul their ageing squad. I can only see Fabinho going to PSG if in the end it doesn't settle well at the end of the year. Not because of success.

We are in control of our Champions league group (A tough group i might add) as well. People need to realise that it really could be a lot worse. I think we've all become a bit spoilt by our good start to the season.

{Ed025's Note - i totally agree mate..


2.) 05 Nov 2018 00:23:44
We could have won every game at this point and someone, somewhere would still find a reason to be negative!


3.) 05 Nov 2018 00:35:03
This has surely got to be a wind up and someone fishing for bites 😂.


4.) 05 Nov 2018 00:47:20
Another mystic meg, I'm sorry mate but you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.


5.) 05 Nov 2018 00:54:18
embarassing thread, really.


6.) 05 Nov 2018 01:35:12
Embarrassing post.


7.) 05 Nov 2018 01:49:06
This is just embarrassing.


8.) 05 Nov 2018 02:41:32
This is an embarrassing post.


9.) 05 Nov 2018 04:31:47
Spot on mindbender!


10.) 05 Nov 2018 05:03:56
A clear windup guys calm down. He’s a troll.


11.) 04 Nov 2018 23:26:33
Ed25 we call those "fans" of our club. They are everywhere, if you look the facebook pages, they rule there.

{Ed025's Note - i just dont know what they want or expect marto? unbeaten in the league and on the cusp of qualifying from a tough group in the CL sounds good to me, maybe im out of touch mate..


12.) 05 Nov 2018 06:19:40
we can balance it all out by selling migs to city.


13.) 05 Nov 2018 06:49:31
Agree with TJ and JK23 😄.


14.) 05 Nov 2018 10:11:42
We are all out of touch ed, they know way more than us. We should listen to them more.

{Ed001's Note - shame we can't just remove their internet access.}


15.) 05 Nov 2018 10:13:32
It's social media guys - this is a non reds troll enjoying trying to wind you all up. Just ignore them and they will go study for their GCSEs instead.


16.) 05 Nov 2018 13:51:16
Not a Troll and although I respect and enjoy your posts Salah I know exactly what I am talking about.

If we don't win the Prem or CL this season and they are both very difficult tasks that there are teams better positioned to do so at the moment, we will lose 2
or 3 players.

By the nature of the market, it will be the bigger names that they come for and I wouldn't knock anyone wanting k move on if they have put a few years in with us.

So as much as you all want us to win and I do to its more of a delusion to expect the big names to want to stay when we are winning nothing so I was merely looking at who the main option and likely wantaways will be.

FYI if we don't win silverware this year I would let Bobby go, as I said in my OP. thanks for trying. And to the person who says Mane wouldn’t get into the City team. That's nor cert positive and I think he will be a perfect fit as that will lose people in the summer.

I want us to win everything. I hope we do. I am. however realistic and look at what is likely to happen when/ if we don't.


17.) 05 Nov 2018 14:32:25
Although, I understand the feeling, given the recent history of players leaving for more successful clubs, I wouldn't write us off just yet.

We get through Christmas period, and our typical dip in form thru Jan/ Feb, we become almost unstoppable for the remaining three months.

Plus it feels like (I Hope) we will turn on the high intensity game in the second half of the season. The quicker play definitely suits our front 3 more.


So I'd say keep your chin up fella, this season is going to be exciting. Can you imagine if in May the table is similar to how it is now, top 3 within 2 points of the top spot, going to be nail biting!


18.) 06 Nov 2018 05:55:32
With the comments of OP, sometimes I wonder if Ed025 is a bigger Liverpool fan than those who attest to be so. He fancies our team, believes in our team, enjoys watching our team and has High regard for what we are doing and where we are headed. Heck, he even has to praise our team to our supporters!

I don’t know if we are going to win anything but I so desperately hope we do. But it’s Nov and we are still in the title race (which usually ends by end of Oct for us), still in CL (and is looking to qualify from tough group) and haven’t even started playing in the FA cup! What more do we want? Be 30 pts ahead in the table and have a place in the finals booked already? On TOP of that, 5 new quality signings that are already lined up for next season just waiting for 1 Jul for the transfer to be official?


 

 

 

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05 Jan 2019 15:35:55
If Solanke wasn’t touted as being sold and now we sell him that (in very basic thinking) means that we are 1 CF light on the planned squad. If Sturridge or Origi were meant to be sold and now aren’t for example, it would explain the sale.

As this wasn’t predicted or expected I just wondered if it changed that situation and the answer was no. No quality CF can ever expect to break into our team with Bobby playing as well as he does so whomever it may be that is the main rotational CF going forward, they need to resign themselves to a hand full of starts a season.

{Ed001's Note - what are you talking about? I said in the summer Solanke was surplus.}


 

 

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05 Jan 2019 09:26:02
I hadn’t forgotten that Solanke hasn’t played ED but I haven’t seen anything that hinted at him being sold either so it came out of the blue and that then made me question if that has cause a change in the Ings situation (especially given that he has shown form where he is) .

The answer seems to be no and that’s fine, just a question.

{Ed002's Note - How can it cause a change in the Ings situation?}


 

 

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30 Dec 2018 16:13:50
Ed’s reply to this is officially one of my 2018 highlights. :D.


 

 

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14 Dec 2018 08:29:38
Thanks FT, your comments are always appreciated.


 

 

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12 Dec 2018 17:56:30
Testing times but I have confidence in Klopp to find the right fix. I’d love to see Fab have a game at RB, I know it’s not his preferred position but he plays it well enough for Brazil for me to want to have a look. Trent has the potent to be as flexible on the pitch as Millie so now could be his chance to fill some boots.


 

 

 

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12 Jan 2019 20:34:25
Come on ED . Calm down.

He's asked a question and you say ”It is not you Macca at all” but end your comment with a sarcastic line while offering no actual reply. Maybe its things exactly like this that causes all the issues?


 

 

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12 Jan 2019 20:26:56
ED you are doing yourself and the site any favours by replying here. You know you love a dig at the club so when someone who is a die hard red who also gets info pulls you up, do you expect any dIfferent?

I did begin to believe that we were potless due to your replies and cutting through Maccas post I guess many of us would like to know what you base your comments on as we are stuck between ”is he serious or is he just having a sly joke? ”.

{Ed002's Note - What have I been pulled up on? De Light joining after I said he wouldn't? Coutinho returning after I said he wouldn't?}


 

 

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12 Jan 2019 20:11:26
A fair point by Macca buy I'm sure it will conflict may fans of Ed2.

It's hard to avoid the ”we can't afford” and ”not unless we sell” replies as they are becoming all the more regular. It's also not hard to miss Eds frustration at a large amount of contributors and quite regularly is sarcastic regarding fans so I've just put it down to it being his humorous revenge at dealing with idiots and never considered us to be in any financial difficulties or facing net spend issues.

I respect ED2 for his football knowledge buy especially respect Macca for his LIVERPOOL knowledge so I really want to believe now that Macca sees little or no truth in Ed’s comments and his ”info” leads him to believe that we ARE in a position to do business if the right player came available.


 

 

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03 Jan 2019 07:45:06
So Milan finally get Lucas Paquet on their books. He is a player that I always thought would be a fantastic addition to our squad and one that could flourish in our system. Have we ever watched him or shown any interest?


 

 

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02 Jan 2019 18:43:56
Keep an eye on Instagram, Ox isn't shy when it comes to filming his training and rehab. I said 2 months ago that based on where he was he looked like he has made an amazing recovery, he's way ahead of the work he should be doing (based on other pros with similar injuries) . I've got a great feeling about his next stage fitness, he looks exceptionally good. Agree on his return not needing any rush and a fully fit and raring to go Ox in August could be like having a new £50 mil player join us.