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19 Feb 2019 02:31:32
A german friend of mine who supports Leverkusen was telling me about how Julian Brandt's move into midfield was finding a lot of success not unlike the Ox's move last year. Got me thinking, any former or current Liverpool players you would think would have done well in a different position?

I'm always curious how defenders like Hansen or Van Dijk would do in a midfield considering their technical quality.


1.) 19 Feb 2019 04:00:54
Id like to see trent at cm, although i doubt that will be this season.


2.) 19 Feb 2019 07:57:26
I'm sure I'll get hammered for this but I actually think Henderson could have a future in defence. Most probably at right back. He's quick, reads the game well, makes powerful runs off the ball, defends well o e on one, and can whip in great balls from wide.

If Trent ever moved into midfield as is expected, I can see Hendo moving back in his place.


3.) 19 Feb 2019 08:04:00
People need to get over this Trent to midfield nonsense. It’s never going to happen. Just spent over 100m on two midfielders, and will replace lallana and Milner with other actual midfielders in the summer.
Everyone who says they want to see him in cm, has never actually watched a game with him in midfield.
The lad is now a right back, and will see his career there.

To the op. I think gerrard could of gone and played in any position, in any team in the world, and put a shift in.


4.) 19 Feb 2019 09:00:18
No chance mk he has no pace, it wouldn't surprise me if this or next could be his last season with us due to fitness concerns and his age

And benny i really don't think trent is a right back myself, he's played his whole youth at cm. I know that's meaningless but i think he would excel at cm once his positioning has come on. I also don't think he would be happy to stay at rb as in many interviews he has stated cm is his position

Have a good day as well lads.


5.) 19 Feb 2019 09:21:16
Lol Trent is 20 years old and already being ruled out for a new position? come on, he has plenty of time to prove he's good enough for CM which I believe he's capable of. I'd understand if he was 27 and people were talking about him moving to midfield but he's 20! give the lad time.

{Ed001's Note - how old was Milner when he moved into central midfield? Most players change position throughout their career.}


6.) 19 Feb 2019 09:22:21
consider Liverpool’s 1977 European Cup Final lineup; Neal played both full back roles in his career, Tommy Smith and Emlyn Hughes started out in midfield and also played across the back four, Callaghan was a right winger and converted to a centre midfielder after knee troubles, Ray Kennedy from target man to left side midfield, Heighway from left winger to a more central role, Keegan from midfield to striker etc etc.
It was always a trait of Liverpool teams, good footballers who were able to adapt.

I like to think that this present set up continues in that vein. Perhaps not to the same wide extent but the front three can interchange, midfielders too, both full backs could probably play as wing backs and, as you say, Trent might eventually evolve into a Wijnaldum-type midfielder. Both Gomez and VVD are quick enough to cover wide positions if absolutely required.
I hope that this theme will continue in the Summer signing/ s, perhaps a full back or two who can also play further forward and a pacey front man like Werner who can be used in the three forward positions.
It adds value to the squad, allows rotation and cuts down on waste.


7.) 19 Feb 2019 09:48:28
Very true Ed, Trent being ruled out at 20 years old is just nonsense talk. He could change position in a year or two and then again in 5 years.


8.) 19 Feb 2019 10:09:22
I can’t see Hendo being a right back sorry, he’s not quick enough especially as in our system our full backs need to be able to get up and down the entire pitch all game. I remember him playing on the right of midfield when he first joined us and he wasn’t particularly good there, midfield is where he is best.


9.) 19 Feb 2019 10:56:36
I actually kissed the screen when he scored that 40 yard screamer to take the hammers to extra time in FA Cup final.


10.) 19 Feb 2019 10:58:08
To the OP, one of the most successful changes of position I can remember is Thierry Henry.


11.) 19 Feb 2019 11:23:03
Jamie carragher was a striker don't forget.


12.) 19 Feb 2019 12:44:56
Tell you what; the day TAA plays cm 3 games in a row, I’ll play the following charity match in my pants.
With the constant pressure managers are under, you think anyone would risk playing him out of position?
Not to mention his international career; with Southgate looking to play walker in the back 3, and trippier being pony, TAA could be the rwb for the next decade.
We aren’t even looking for a right back.


13.) 19 Feb 2019 14:01:12
I must be watching a different Henderson. He doesn't lack pace at all. Klopp apparently wanted to play him at centre back in the FA cup against Wolves, and he played right back against Leicester and ran Gray off the ball every time they faced up 1 vs 1 (who by the way, is no slouch) .

I knew I'd get hammered for it, but I still think we'll see him covering in defence much more often. He's twice as fast as Milner and he has played right/ left back increasingly as he's got older. The main difference is Hendo has the reading of the game and the height to also cover centre back.


14.) 19 Feb 2019 14:03:27
The most obvious recent (and I would say successful) position change is Milner. From a right winger at ManC he has come in and changed his game to one that is based on playing central midfield and doing either the offensive or defensive duties (or both), depending on the team being played and team tactics decided by Klopp. And his ability to adapt and play various positions has been a Godsend for the team, that people do not talk about much, unfortunately.

The only way I would move TAA into midfield is after asking myself (and answering) which player/ position is he better than, and how much better is he? Right now, my answer is that he isn't better than any midfielder playing in our starting team. He's perfect staying where he is.


15.) 19 Feb 2019 17:38:21
I know it’s not the same level by any means but I don’t think many people know that Trent played 10 games for the England u19’s as a right winger and got 7 goals. I’m not saying he’ll end up a winger or a cm or a right back, I just think that the lad is clearly talented enough in multiple positions and that it’s definitely conceivable that he won’t spend his career at right back.


 

 

10 Feb 2019 11:43:35
Looking forwards to your match review Ed001 (time permitting) . I can't be the only one who look forwards to them more when we've actually played well haha

If there's one thing yesterdays game highlighted its that Keita, Wijnaldum and Fabinho are our strongest midfield. Especially with Keita finding his feet and Wijnaldum raising his game. Big Shaq has played well this season, but I prefer him as an impact sub.

{Ed001's Note - probably won't get it finished today but I will try.}


 

 

16 Jan 2019 18:49:17
I can only assume Bielsa called that conference to explain to Stuart Pearce and Frank Lampard why he's a much better manager then them. Absolutely incredible. He's a Legend of the game, the english league will be much poorer when he eventually leaves.

{Ed001's Note - he is a definite legend.}


1.) 16 Jan 2019 18:59:04
I've just read about it then. The guy is a living legend. Hopefully people will see what a genius this guy is.


2.) 16 Jan 2019 19:06:54
I can't wait to see him in the Prem. Assuming Leeds go up.


3.) 16 Jan 2019 19:11:14
I look forward to seeing him in the PL, what he's done at Leeds already is incredible, he'll take them up and keep them up imo. It's a matter of time before a bigger club comes in for him though, quality manager.


4.) 16 Jan 2019 19:21:22
Bielsa is a beast of a coach. A complete nutjob BUT a beast of a coach.


5.) 16 Jan 2019 19:47:29
And he managed to rub Lampard's nose in also, after all the grumbling. He knows more about Derby than even Lampard. And he managed to expose Derby's tactics to all the managers in the championship under the guise of justifying his spying.
Absolute legend.


6.) 16 Jan 2019 20:06:22
This Spygate is a total non-story for me.

If Leeds doesn’t experience burn out then all credit to him 👍.


7.) 16 Jan 2019 21:12:26
Just google bielsa hand grenade, see how nuts he is.


8.) 16 Jan 2019 22:16:41
Spot on, Realtofel. Imagine the opposition manager knowing more about your team than you do? Now, that is how you hand your opposing number's arse to him on a plate.

The lesson the managers in England have been taught here, is to do rigorous research before you step up to a madman like Bielsa. If you don't, you will get bloodied, bruised and beaten like Lampard is now. As they say, Preparation is half the job.


9.) 17 Jan 2019 01:28:25
and so if Derby starts losing games, because their tactics have now been thoroughly exposed, will Bielsa be charged with another leak of some sort?

he hasn't done anything wrong here in his presentation to the press, except that he is behaving like the top student who shared all his notes and if anyone is smart enough to read it, they'll become smarter as well, except the sulky student who wished to be top but doesn't quite put in enough effort and is now angry that the top student is behaving in an 'unfair' manner.


 

 

13 Jan 2019 18:34:43
Hey Ed001 big fan of the player ratings comparison. Is there any way to see older ones? or is it only the most recent batch? I seem to remember Kaka vs Rivaldo being one.

{Ed033's Note - All pages now added to the player ratings site if you look at the top menu, thanks.


1.) 13 Jan 2019 20:35:07
Cheers Ed033, very much appreciated!


 

 

28 Dec 2018 16:22:44
Extract of John Arne Riise's biography published in the guardian today. Naturally they chose the golf club incident due to its notoriety but it does make for an interesting read. May even buy the book as he's unlikely to hold back.


1.) 28 Dec 2018 16:44:22
Good shout that! I particularly enjoyed the imagery of Dudek being arrested 😂.


 

 

 

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06 Apr 2019 15:43:18
Little Naby, my issue with Eriksen wasn't that he wouldn't play. Its that we couldn't afford him and that in his case Spurs would never sell to a rival, need to be semi realistic when throwing names out, this isn't football manager.

{Ed002's Note - Eriksen will not be moving to Liverpool.}


 

 

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05 Apr 2019 13:29:17
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05 Apr 2019 13:19:33
Havertz or Eriksen? that Messi fella would be pretty solid as well.

Players like Shaqiri are about what Liverpool can bring in as backup's and even then sometimes players are priced out of a move. Clubs don't want to sell and Liverpool don't have the financial means to bring in half the players talked about, nor would those players want to move. These are players who are barely rotated, what's the appeal of becoming a rotation option? even if they get 20-30 odd games.


 

 

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22 Mar 2019 15:07:20
It was when he responded with the wrong account to himself that the cat was very much out of the bag. But always nice to see a regular haha

I quite like Zielinski, but Ed002 is always saying how difficult Napoli are to deal with. that's assuming the player even still wanted the move.


 

 

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15 Mar 2019 19:43:09
ArAy1969 I love a rumour, but in the form of 'my mates a realtor and supposedly has been asked to move in so and so', or the days of the Babble Copter. Genuine rumours that tended to have some truth in them, or at the very least some novelty. Its more the nature of the rumours.

Rumours based on the principle of randomly picking a player and linking them to a club get tedious. Especially when they're just rehashing's of nonsense made up by gossip columns.


 

 

 

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23 Apr 2019 17:22:35
Sturridge's '24 appearances' is a little misleading. He's only played 570 min which is essentially six full games. Over the entirety of the season that's hardly anything.

As other posters have mentioned Wilson or Brewster could easily fill that spot and deserve the opportunity to do so. Likeable Lad and apprently a great presence in the dressing room, but he's just not the player he was.


 

 

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22 Apr 2019 23:25:07
Cheers Ed001, enjoyed the review. Though Alisson might have been marked down a bit for flapping at their goal chance but I suppose one of the defenders should have helped him out with the man on him.


 

 

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19 Apr 2019 19:28:13
I've never really understood this narrative behind ex players knowing the secret to a clubs success because they played in a successful era. Different era, manager and players. Almost none of that is applicable.

All ex players bring is passion and goodwill with the club. Both are useful and its ideal when it works out (i. e. King Kenny) but they need to be genuinely good managers otherwise they'll fail regardless (i. e. Souness) . Solskjaer is incredibly unproven and a risk for the club. That isn't to say he'll definitely fail, but the odds aren't in his favour.

{Ed002's Note - Except for Super Stevie Nicol of course.}


 

 

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19 Apr 2019 07:51:24
Interesting, Cheers ed001. Wasn't aware Gundogan was running down his contract, can only assume he isn't happy in a rotation role? Thought he might get more game time with Silva and Fernandinho ageing but Pep does love to rotate. I can see him doing really well in Italy.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate. Inter pay high wages too.}


 

 

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18 Apr 2019 10:03:53
Great to see that from Salah, show he's grown over time and willing to use his platform to educate people.