06 Dec 2022 03:19:27
Looks like our new owners are going to be from middle east.
The club is valued a lot in the middle east but our biggest market is south east asia. But no one from those regions can stump up the cash in these times.
FSG are quite happy now unlike 3 months ago.

1.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 06:09:41
Football manager time is coming. LFC will be a rich man's play thing, and we'll get to spend money like its going out of fashion. Hopefully there will be some discernment around purchases, more akin to Newcastle than City.
At least Jurgen gets a go at properly competing with the big boys, and perhaps he will stay on longer.

2.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 07:21:21
I think middle east owners would be great for liverpool and for the middle east. The middle east people I'm sure will want to put out a better imperisson than the west portrays and also what they do need to do better hopefully by owning an institute like liverpool they will understand there responsibilities.
It would be great for the club if we had more power in the transfer market, klopp doesn't need to be backed with humongous amounts he just needs bit more, if we do need to have a big window every few years we can do it.
At same time whoever is best candidate to buy go with, be it middle east, Europe, India etc.

3.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 09:09:17
Wow. The Saudi and Qatari regimes are alright then? I loved the Qatari response to the article in the Guardian that 6500 workers had died building the wretched stadia and, the Qatari ministry response said those that died weren’t all building the stadia - so I suppose that’s alright.

Sorry to politicise football (again) but rationalising the acceptance of, in effect, mass murderers so we can buy some overrated primadonna just because we can afford them is just plain wrong.

4.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 09:33:19
Agreed WDW, we should be actively avoiding these type of regimes for our ownership if we can.

5.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 10:05:28
I would like to see who these middle east potential owners are before I would ridicule them.
Everybody entitled to there opinion but I find it v hard to stomach all this ridicule of middle east coming from the west with there record.
I didn't hear anybody say we shouldn't let fsg buy us because America started an illegal war in Iraq.

6.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 10:47:52
@Digger10, I’m not ridiculing the Saudis or Qataris, I’m ridiculing the people rationalising handing the club over to indefensible regimes.

The regimes using slave labour and costing thousands of lives and suppressing basic human rights are way, way beyond ridicule.

7.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 10:54:50
Sorry Digger, for me it isn’t an east / west thing - there are examples of poor governments across the world. It’s about, in this case, two Governing elites exploiting people and denying them basic human rights for no other reason than they have the power to do so.

8.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 10:59:58
I would just like to point out that just because the new owners may be from the Middle East, that does not mean that they will be affiliated with any ‘regime’.

The Saudi, Abu Dhabi and Qatar sovereign funds/ governments have already bought clubs. If it’s just a consortium of rich people from one of the Arab nations, that is not the same thing as a ‘regime’ using the club for sportswashing.

The people that live in these countries are independent agents and most have nothing to do with the government. They are not evil by virtue of being from one of these places. To conflate the two sounds a lot like Cold War Red Scare hysteria from back in the day.

The same is true for people saying ‘I just don’t want Americans’, as if all potentially interested American parties are going to behave in exactly the same way as Hicks and Gillette or the Glazers. People have got it into their heads thar they don’t like the idea of certain groups of people owning the club, but can’t articulate why.

I’m all for a healthy debate around who our new owners will be, but at least make sure you know exactly what it is you are concerned about before you articulate it. Otherwise, you just come across as a bit bigoted and reactionary.

9.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 11:08:48
Wdw, it’s great having a holier than thou attitude but let’s face it people soon forget when it suits them. Who on here owns Nike products? They use child labour. Who on here owns an electric car? They use child labour in the mining of lithium and the working conditions are also poor.
In fact show me a billionaire who hasn’t exploited someone.

10.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 11:10:05
Instead of pointing the finger at the Qataris, why not mention Fifa? If they wouldn't of took the brown envelope in the first place none of this would of happened. Anyhow, mass hypocrisy springs to mind concerning the exploitation of workers. It's not like that happens in the west is it :/.

11.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 11:51:41
Who owns any sweat shop goods or cheap electronics? If so, you are supporting exploitation. let's keep it real here, we are all complicit, unless you only shop at Oxfam, grow your own veg and never judged or hurt anyone else.

12.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 12:22:06
Why try and avoid them? Buying LFC would bring them into the spotlight like no other, the whole world knows LFC and we can put pressure on them to change, plus they we can actually start to compete for players, i'm hoping for the richest owners possible.

13.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 12:33:15
The horse bolted in the early 90s. Top tier football is big business now and big business lives by different rules to you and me!

14.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 13:43:24
Having a moral perspective doesn't mean that you are "holier than thou". I don't blame Qatar. They run their country in accord with Islamic principles, as they see them, and everyone should be well aware of that whether they think it's right or wrong. No one with an ounce of sense should be surprised when Qatar "do what it says on the tin". I blame the corrupt regime at FIFA who succumbed to the blandishments of Qatar and awarded one of the biggest international sporting tournaments to them.

15.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 15:37:13
I hope so. For some reason though I can see this dragging on for 18 months and ending up with some American “investors” that do about as much as the New Nike deal, and the lebron marketing ???‍♂️.

16.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 16:56:55
How about the regime in England that saw the highest deaths in Europe due to a cold that they couldn’t handle as well as almost every other government/ state? Every government every country every religion every race has its problems and yes you can point them all out without it being rascist or xenophobic but you have to acknowledge and accept that your own government, race, religion has its problems and talk about those too.

17.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 19:13:24
Some really good points made above - and I completely understand that the overwhelming majority of Saudis and Qataris are not associated with the people ruling the countries.

I also accept that I’m hypocritical - although mostly unknowingly - as I suspect most of us are, as you can’t stop to check the entire back story of where they came from, who made them and under what conditions every time you buy a pair of undies from M and S.

Also apologies if I come across as ‘holier than thou’, that was certainly not the intention - I just think the pathe we are potentially going down is against the ideals of the club that I have supported for over half a century. It’s a bit like the old cliche (ironically from the days when we ‘ruled the world’ and had an empire, upon which ‘the sun never set’j) … It’s not about winning or losing, it’s about how you play the game.

18.) 06 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 19:48:20
Respect to you wdw. We’re all ignorant there’s no doubt about it.

19.) 07 Dec 2022
06 Dec 2022 22:45:14
I find it absolutely hilarious people going on about human rights abuses, and lack of in Qatar and other Middle Eastern countries, and that's fair enough. But will the same self righteous people be calling for the next world Cup in America to be boycotted. A country who could kidknapp/ arrest people who they saw as a danger, and hold for years without charge or a trail in guantamano Bay, there's still 35 in there to this day, imagine if that was a middle east country what the reaction would be . I don't want be to state owned by any state, but individual private company's citizens etc have every right to bid, and then be scrutinised as to whether they're suitable .

20.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 00:00:10
We live in a country that has brought it's fair share of misery to this world, very recently too. Muslims live differently to us we have to accept that our laws aren't the same as every other country. in terms of workers dieing are you surprised they don't even wear steel toecaps sandles all the way.

21.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 01:56:58
I understand what you are saying Chris - different cultures have different, for want of a more meaningful word, moral codes. As has been rightly pointed out, Britain has a fair amount to be ashamed of and on the other side of the coin there are lots of ‘Johnny foreigner’ types who are decent human beings.

That said, if we were taken over by anybody who was complicit in the death of thousands of people who were labourers on a rebuild of, say, Anfield (be they English, American, German, Indian, Qatari or whatever) is would you still support the club?

22.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 06:15:06
C'mon, you can't compare owning a pair of Nikes or an electric vehicle with the beheading of actual people, the "ownership" of women and the imprisonment of homosexuals. Yes, be mindful of the impacts of your purchases etc, and make the best decision you can afford to make, but don't try to say we should accept this because nobody is perfect. It's a weak and shallow argument.

23.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 07:05:02
Wdw. Of course we wouldn't stand for it if people where killed working on anfield. Unfortunately I think it's a media hate campaign against the middle east, my opinion is look at your own countries and take responsibility for what has been done in the past and in some cases recent past. Middle east definitely has there issues but anybody I know that worked out there (a lot in dubai+qatar) have nothing but praise for.

24.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 07:05:31
For the people and the area.

25.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 12:41:48
It's clearly the faith that middle eastern countries follow that's the problem, it's not what people like to hear but it's the flat truth, can't change a religion like Christianity has had too, only Europeans can be forced into acceptance, messed up world we live in.

26.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 13:05:57
Cmon Kemlyncat, i've not read any Islamic texts but i find it hard to believe that the Quran says its acceptable for 6000 workers to die building stadiums for a rigged sporting event. Of course we should blame Qatar. That sort of atrocity has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with a political regime that doesn't value human lives.

27.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 18:19:32
'Only Europeans can be forced into acceptance', Jesus wept. You're treading into white supremacy and eugenics with comments like that.

Islam is literally just an extension and further development of Christianity and Judaism, in the same way the former was for the latter. They are known as the Abrahamic religions and all worship the same god, just in different ways.

The conservative laws that are imposed in the Arab nations aren't much different from the laws that were in place here a mere few centuries ago, all done in the name of Christianity. The only difference is the head start we have had through phases of 'enlightenment' and greater economic development, usually achieved through exploiting the very nations we now criticise for being backwards.

What's more, these countries are not but a hundred years old and were born out of the aftermath of the Empire and the First World War. Before Lawrence of Arabia showed up, they were just vast swathes of desert divided into nomadic tribes, ruled by the Sheikhs. Is it any wonder they aren't quite ready to make the same changes that western nations took hundreds of years to implement?

None of this is to say I find any of this acceptable, they should be held to account and I have been more vocal than a lot of people about that. However, it is important to understand the history and context surrounding these issues, before being sucked into reactionary far right belief systems that can be disproven with a simple google search.

28.) 07 Dec 2022
07 Dec 2022 20:47:08
I have no problem with any religion and don’t care where any future owners come from as long as they have good intentions. What is killing everything religions and ethical values is the work community and why can’t anybody keep anything private anymore it’s almost like everyone has to to shout to the rooftops and be obeyed!

Politics should also have been kept out of football it’s now almost a flavour of the month football gesture.

How about everyone is just nice to each other and treat everyone how they would want to be treated.

Rant over lol.

29.) 08 Dec 2022
08 Dec 2022 08:37:27
I think we need to be very careful of “what-about-ism”.

We can’t avoid highlighting issues or striving for change on the basis that we buy Nike trainers etc.

I also agree with Anonymous Woolbacks point regarding understanding differences in ownership by Middle East regimes vs businessmen/ consortiums of Middle Eastern people.

In reality it already feels that whoever ends up purchasing the club will upset some people in the fan base unfortunately. I think we need to remain united and not divided as fans as much as we can.

30.) 08 Dec 2022
08 Dec 2022 09:12:17
As i have posted before if your not happy with people from middle east buying LFC then everton are building a new ground which will need supporters off you toddle leave the reds who want the best for our club.

31.) 08 Dec 2022
08 Dec 2022 09:48:23
I don’t see it as anything to do with the religion, there are many Muslims who think that it’s a disgrace. It’s more to do with the callous way governments in general look at us people. Just numbers on a spreadsheet. For what it’s worth our government is not much better when it comes to it, we happily sell cluster bombs to Saudi to drop on women and children, we had a health minister who was happy to discharge C.V. patients into care homes knowing the risk was death to vulnerable people, there was the London borough who knowingly installed unsafe cladding on social housing to appease its posh neighbours, then were entirely callous about the loss of life when it went up in flames. I could go on. It’s a reflection of the world we live in and as Darwin so succinctly puts it, government that’s doesn’t value human life.

32.) 08 Dec 2022
08 Dec 2022 12:21:41
Not going near white supremacy at all, you may as well have pulled the race card out, Sharia is absolutely barbaric, i've grown up with multi faith fiends, school etc, the ideas of children knowing their place and women do as their told have never changed, unless you arrive in the modern world, how many women reverends are there now? Gay marriage etc all been accepted into Christianity, try doing it in the middle east and those countries, oh no wait, you cant, you get stoned to death, throwing sentences about trying to imply white supremacy BS is why people have kept quiet all this time and certain things have been gotten away with, a high horse is as damaging as a truthful mouthful, it's why i care not where the owners come from, as long as they have the money to provide the team i'm happy, the richer the better.