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17 Dec 2017 01:40:29
We have decided to change the Teams page to be the Liverpool Match Posts page, so look for posts talking about the latest Liverpool match there.

But most of the posts still go to the Liverpool Banter page.

17 Dec 2017 01:40:29
Also more posts are being added to the Liverpool Other Posts page.

16 Dec 2017 21:48:51
I am reading rumours that we made a bid for Vrasjalko the out of favour Atletico Madrid right back. Obviously it can't be true at this point because nothing can be done until January. The point is there has to be a reason he can't get into the Atletico Madrid team. If something comes of this in January it will just seem like we are buying other teams cast offs.

Believable0 3Unbelievable

16 Dec 2017 23:05:03
He’s had a shocker since he joined them. Frankly speaking the problem is in the centre of our defence not the right. Not one of Matip, Lovren or Klavan has shown themselves to be of the sufficient quality and if Klopp thinks throwing Gomez into the lions den is the answer that’s poor management.

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16 Dec 2017 01:56:23
Hallo ED. Is it possibel that buy this players in January; Sime Vrasjalko (Atletico Madrid), Gimenez (Atletico Madrid), Matteo Kovacic (Real Madrid ) and Luan Vieira (gremio)

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{Ed002's Note - Sorry, no.}

15 Dec 2017 18:59:57
We need to buy Jonathan Tah as a partner in the middle for Gomez instead of looking at vvd have we looked at him at all eds? I.

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{Ed001's Note - before he joined Leverkusen he was under consideration. I do not know about since.}

16 Dec 2017 00:44:22
Hi Ed01, don't you follow Dutch Eredivise? The best league for potential stars.

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{Ed001's Note - not really mate, it is terrible to watch. I watch the odd match when there is nothing else to do but the football is dire, along with the vast majority of players playing there.}

16 Dec 2017 04:23:26
I know but I just had a look at some of thier stats. Ajax only conceded 15 goals so far and the average age of thier back line is 20.5 😱.

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{Ed001's Note - but the level of the opposition is not good enough. It is not a true test of ability. We would barely concede playing in the Eredivisie. Kuyt managed to play on there many years after he was finished as a player in top echelon football.}

16 Dec 2017 10:32:10
It's like watching paint dry isn't it lol.

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{Ed001's Note - it's certainly not entertainment.}

16 Dec 2017 11:53:17
Like listening to Michael owen.

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{Ed001's Note - oh come on, you are going over the top now, nothing is that bad!}

16 Dec 2017 12:20:01

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16 Dec 2017 12:20:41
I think it’s a good league for spotting potential but that seems about it. I could be wrong but was it not a lot stronger about 20 years ago when great players were emerging from it? I still raise a hopeful eyebrow anytime I hear us linked with a Ajax starlet.

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16 Dec 2017 15:44:57
Kuyt played centre mid there didn't he?

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15 Dec 2017 09:08:16
Is it true Fenerbahce are interested in taking Grujic out on loan?

If so I think it'll be good for him, get him some real playing time and hopefully come back next season and crack on.

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15 Dec 2017 10:05:40
Agree he needs to go out on loan to get regular playing time. But feel this must be in premiership in my opinion.

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15 Dec 2017 11:07:40
He will easily replace Renato Sanchez at Swansea. Better to loan him out to a premier league club.

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15 Dec 2017 12:07:04
He should be loaned out to either a Premiership team or Championship team, Shame Klopp ain't played him as surely he deserves a chance with all this rotation and can't be no worse than some.

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16 Dec 2017 23:44:27
Today linked with Villa and Brighton on loan, much more palatable.

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14 Dec 2017 14:10:24
Apparently kovacic has made a verbal agreement to join Liverpool next season and Madrid have also agreed? True or false?

Believable4 8Unbelievable

{Ed002's Note - Twitter is this? On Tuesday another side spoke to Real Madrid about Kovacic whilst everyone was in Monte Carlo. I have no idea of the outcome.}

14 Dec 2017 14:27:32
Don't say things like this, who is going to calm Harry down now? ;)

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14 Dec 2017 14:36:14
Seen it on both twitter and Facebook, don’t really believe in it just wondered what you thought about it.

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{Ed002's Note - You should check on Twitter.}

14 Dec 2017 16:23:32
Hi ed. Im not on either Twitter or Facebok mate. Only use your pages for my info. Can you say which teamvhave interest?

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{Ed002's Note - Juventus spoke to representatives of Real Madrid whilst many of the major sides were together in Monte Carlo on Tuesday.}

14 Dec 2017 17:40:50
Cheers edd. Youve mentioned a few times a lot of the teams were in Monte Carlo this week mate. Can you advise if anyone from Liverpool was there and in descutions with anyone or asking about possible ins/ outs?

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{Ed002's Note - No, it doesn't involve Liverpool. Liverpool had a couple of people in Nyon on Monday but they are not invited to the Tuesday meeting. I don't know if they were in Geneva on Sunday evening but I suspect not.}

15 Dec 2017 01:34:13
Is this due to the clubs behavior outside of proper negotiations?

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{Ed002's Note - Not really. They are not in the Gang.}

15 Dec 2017 10:53:43
Never seen him play in central defence.

We playing a 1-8-1 next season?

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16 Dec 2017 21:05:05
Surely 1-0-6-4.

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13 Dec 2017 10:51:12
Hi Eds, I keep reading here and everywhere that we are interested in Lemar but is that interest as a replacement for Coutinho or Salah?

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{Ed001's Note - Coutinho.}

13 Dec 2017 12:17:14
Ed001. Do YOU think anything significant will happen in January rearding these 2 players or more likely in the Summer?

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{Ed001's Note - I certainly don't expect anything to happen in Jan.}

13 Dec 2017 13:57:55
Hi Ed001, by the summer it is very possible we will need 2 centre backs, a goalie and 2 additional midfielders. Not much would have to go wrong for us to have to change the entire starting midfield. We know one is coming but

Henderson foot issue
Can leaving
PC leaving
Gini terrible season
milner I would expect to leave
lallana not getting any younger and the way he plays injury prone.

So if we need 5 players by the start of next season don't you think someone is not doing there job properly if we can't even find one? I mean you have decent football knowledge, wouldn't you be dissappointed in yourself if you couldn't find a suitable centre back within one year. The scouts have been looking for over a year and it looks like they have come up with fresh air.

There is the whole world to choose from and it is not like it should be difficult to find better than we have at present. Matip can't defend, Lovren makes many bad decisions, Klavan is a championship player. One decent centre back can't be too much to ask for.

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{Ed001's Note - agreed there is a very real problem with the scouting network or the oversight of it. There should have been more than one option found in the summer anyway.}

13 Dec 2017 14:54:26
Good post mark. Hard to argue with that.

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13 Dec 2017 15:00:08
Agreed Ed001, the scouting network at our club is absolutely shocking since I can remember. Some of the signings we've made in the past 20 years are just criminal.
Who knows a little bit of diligence in our scouts over the years and we would have a couple of titles.

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13 Dec 2017 15:14:15
Mark - remember, Keita replaces Can and I expect (hope) that Milner would be replaced, he if's no longer with us, by Grujic in the midfield and rendered surplus to requirements by Robertson and Milner at FB. So that's two off the list already.

Then we have Gini, who isn't having the best season but isn't having the worst either and has had some good games. Definitely too early to be writing him off completely.

Finally Hendo - he's our captain right now and looks to be for the rest of the season. I doubt he's going anywhere fast and I can easily see him and Lallana working in tandem to provide energy to the midfield - Hendo when we need to harry their midfielders further back and Lallana when we have more opportunity to pressurize their defensive players.

Really that list you made suggests that we will be looking for perhaps one extra midfielder and one replacement for Coutinho, that's it.

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13 Dec 2017 16:12:27
Mark I think you’re being harsh on the midfield.

Next season, even with Can and Coutinho leaving we could line up with Hendo, Keita and Lallana starting and Gini and Ox as subs. We could also look to use Grujic and Woodburn more often.

I agree we need at least one more top player to come in to be competing, but that’s still a very credible starting lineup, even as is.

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13 Dec 2017 16:31:08
Grobs and Hjikle,
in Marks first line, he said that we need two centre backs, both of you seem to have missed that,
cast your mind back just as little, goals conceded, were did they stem from,
think Everton, Newcastle, and more, if we only replace our Keeper and both our centre backs Matip and Lovren,
then we will go a long way to being a real top four team, not just making it on the last game of the season .

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13 Dec 2017 17:41:55
May be its just me, but I would not want to buy a new goalkeeper. I am not a fan of Mignolet and would not want him to continue being the No.1 choice, however, I think Karius has shown glimpses of taking over the mantle and if given the option, I would move Karius to be the No.1 choice and Mignolet/ Ward, battle it out for the second choice keeper. The only keeper that I would personally hope Liverpool 'buys' right now is someone like De Gea or Neuer and both of those are not happening. Also, from what I have seen, Mignolet always does well when his position is put under pressure, thus may be having him as a second choice might bring out the best in him in those few games where he can prove himself. Ofcourse these comments are being made without taking into consideration if either of Mignolet or Ward would be happy being second choice.

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13 Dec 2017 17:47:18
I think writing is on the wall in regards Can and Coutinho, I’d love Lemar as replacement but he woudint come cheap and we certainly woudint be only interested side, however most important as all wise red fans know it’s just so clear we got to sort this defence out. It’s easy for us too all day we should get A and B but only scouting team and course great welcomed guidance Ed’s keep us informed but I just want defencive reinforcements Jan (if possible) / Summer and a new top goalkeeper if Wars isn’t given chance which looks be case for whatever reasons.

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13 Dec 2017 17:46:40
Yes Happy it was mainly about centre backs but the midfield with one or more injuries would be thread bare. We are supposed to be improving and the potential midfield mentioned above is at best a step sideways.

Hendo and Gini both are not getting any better and Lallana is getting injured for longer and longer periods.

Ed001 thanks for the reply. Someone or some people have had another 4 months to find a suitable centre back it looks like they have been looking in Scotland.

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{Ed001's Note - does make you wonder what on earth is going on.}

13 Dec 2017 22:14:49
Feel bad for Ward. Klopp should of let him go back to Huddersfield and get some premiership experience, giving the lad the very odd run out isn't doing him any favors.

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14 Dec 2017 00:11:39
We've signed some phenomenal players over the last 20 years, too many to mention.

The problem is we've never really signed great players for the postions we're weakest in. We seem to stockpile certain positions of strength and ignore our biggest problem. Can't just blame the scouts for that, manager has to carry the can too.

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{Ed001's Note - unless the reason it is happening is the scouting team are not identifying players for the problem positions.}

15 Dec 2017 17:16:05
We appear to have lost sight of a golden rule - that players that are bought for the senior squad should be better than the players they are replacing.

What we have been doing far to often for the last 2-3 decades is buying senior players who were dire at the time we bought them and remained so.

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16 Dec 2017 21:07:01
RL half agree, we have definitely bought players who were very average when signed. But the success was because anyone signed fitted the team, fitted the club and continued the level of performance. That stopped happening.

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13 Dec 2017 09:57:37
So today's reports say we are after Šime Vrsaljko.

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13 Dec 2017 10:36:30
Bless you.

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13 Dec 2017 12:58:51
Can we all just agree now that if we chase him or get him, he's referred to as Sime? Otherwise the search function for latest info will become a nightmare!

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{Ed002's Note - Well to save you searching. It hasn't worked out in Madrid for Sime Vrsaljko and he has been made available by Atletico with several sides already declaring an interest with both his agent and his club. There have been discussions between his agent and his preferred choice of Napoli and tentative agreement has been reached, although they have yet to make a firm offer to Atletico who are not looking to negotiate. Other clubs who have let his agent and Atletico know that they are interested in discussing the player are Inter, Juventus and Liverpool - although he would not be first pick for Juventus.}

13 Dec 2017 15:14:47
Greatly appreciated Ed002, thank you.

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13 Dec 2017 19:44:27
Anyone else think that right back isn't that much of a problem position and that this might hinder the development of Gomez and Alexander-Arnold?

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13 Dec 2017 19:58:09
I guess it would be about balancing. Has been said a fair number of times that neither Gomez nor TAA is viewed as a long term RB so we will need someone there in next year or so.

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13 Dec 2017 08:37:43
Rumour says we are bringing back Suso for 40 million.

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13 Dec 2017 08:54:01
'Rumour' says it all. Can you really see him wanting to come back to Liverpool?

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13 Dec 2017 09:56:39
Salah, you're just worried because he is a left footer who plays on the right wing.

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13 Dec 2017 18:18:07
Adding a source gives it more credibility, even if its just your mate from the pub!

A quick Google search yields an article from over a month ago (12 Nov) in the Daily Star, quoting no sources whatsoever. Looks like made up click bait, but the figure they moot is £35m being his release clause (? ) .

Ed001 esp, have you seen much of his exploits in Italy, and do you think, given his development of late, he could fit well into Klopp's current preferred way of playing?

Not to say I believe the rumour, Daily Star and all that, but putting aside the fact we sold him and then may buy him back, £35m if he is effective and could grow into the Couts role is relatively cheap in this market place (compared to c£80m for Lemar according to L'Equipe via the Daily Mail and BBC Gossip today) . If he is the right player for us right now, let's not make the same mistake as Chelsea with De Bruyne.

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12 Dec 2017 18:41:59
Hey ed sorry if this is just throwing a random name at you but read on another site about premier league interest in a young defender from Charlton Ezri Konsa, would this be someone Liverpool have ever looked at or someone you consider to be good enough for the step Up? It is, after all where we found Gomez.


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{Ed001's Note - I don't know, the people I knew at Charlton have all left (and glad to do so due to the ownership), and it is difficult to keep track on which youngsters the club are interested in from the Liverpool end, as they keep track of hundreds.}

12 Dec 2017 21:38:34
Okay cheers for the response.

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{Ed001's Note - no worries, sorry I can't help.}

12 Dec 2017 17:10:37
Few snipperts from today -

Suso - LFC apparently looking to re-sign for 40 mil

Can - apparently signed a 4 million a year plus bonuses deal with Juve

Draxler linked again - 40 mil the tag

Sturridge to consider a move abroad - Valencia interested

Grabara - Signed a new 5 year contract

Coutinho has thanked Klopp for his improvement/ development.

Believable7 4Unbelievable

12 Dec 2017 17:40:26
Can signing anything before jan would be illegal.

Reliable source!

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12 Dec 2017 17:50:49
Its only media snippets Triangle I don't suggest its gospel.

Lets not be naïve either to think this couldn't/ doesn't happen. Legally yes it cannot and should not, doesn't mean for a second it doesn't.

I still as a personal opinion think its very likely early Jan this deal will be announced.

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12 Dec 2017 18:05:10
He may have AGREED terms with Juve but he certainly can not have SIGNED anything.

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12 Dec 2017 23:05:48
An illegal approach then?

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13 Dec 2017 08:03:55
Nice to see Suso linked with such a big transfer. Was a huge fan of his and great to see it finally working out for him in Milan. Could never understand why Rogers never gave him a chance. He always had the look of a great little player whenever I saw him. Wonderful vision.

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13 Dec 2017 16:22:01
I hope studge comes to Valencia. Beautiful place and i could watch him locally.

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