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06 Aug 2014 15:03:35
Looks like Coady might be off to Huddersfield Town. Good luck to the young lad- hope he does well.

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18 Jul 2014 21:00:49
Looks like we might have agreed a fee for Borini with Sunderland.

If he does move on, I personally would wish him the best of luck as I really like the kid and think he deserves a bit of stability for once in his career.

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26 Mar 2014 16:56:45
Hi Eds,
Was watching an interview via Youtube earlier and Tony Evans claimed Rodgers initially pulled the deal on transferring Sturridge to Liverpool in the summer and then had Sturridge forced on him the winter window. True, b*******, or massive oversimplification?

RDL

{Ed001's Note - Rodgers did no such thing, he pushed for the move to go through.}


 

 

06 Aug 2013 23:07:56
End game it is then, eh, Luis? Nifty. From the Guardian article-

"Last year I had the opportunity to move to a big European club and I stayed on the understanding that if we failed to qualify for the Champions League the following season I'd be allowed to go, " he revealed. "I gave absolutely everything last season but it was not enough to give us a top-four finish - now all I want is for Liverpool to honour our agreement."

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01 Sep 2017 16:11:01
Bit of a left field question and perhaps one for Ed002, but if a situation like with Neymar were to arise while the transfer window were closed, could the player sign for another club (as I see it, Neymar was a free agent, at least for a few minutes there? )? Or is that an incorrect interpretation?

RDL

{Ed002's Note - Neymar was not a free agent. His registration was held by Barcelona and then transfered to PSG. And I don't really get the question.}


1.) 01 Sep 2017 16:42:13
Eds I don't know but I think he's asking about signing free agents? I know they have an extended deadline but there is still a deadline? Or am I wrong?

{Ed002's Note - If they are free agents (and were during the transfer window) then they can be signed at any time. I am not aware of Liverpool looking to buy any free agents though there are plenty out there still - Joe Ledley springs to mind, Kieran Richardson if Klopp still wants another left back, Joleon Lescott to resolve the centre back concerns, Ross Turnbull in goal. Lots of options.}


2.) 01 Sep 2017 16:45:48
On the same subject ed why didn't Barcelona just say sorry that's not legally binding because you're in a different country i. e. The release clause or buy out or termination or whatever the correct term is. Barcelona say they wanted to keep him yet they didn't have to do the deal.

{Ed002's Note - Because Barcelona had an agreement to make him available if anyone offered the full fee. The player wanted to go but he was not without a contract.}


3.) 01 Sep 2017 17:36:24
Sorry, Ed002, I wasn't sure how that worked so just trying to understand it all. If the player in La Liga has to buy themselves out, are they not a free agent in some respects, even if just for a few minutes? It seems weird the registration would transfer directly from say Barcelona to PSG given the player is the one providing the money. Maybe I'm making this more complicated then it really is.

Maybe a better example- let's say Adidas gives Messi some amount that matches his buyout with the intention that he joins an Adidas-sponsored club rather than one wearing Nike. Messi then uses that money to buy himself out. Would he then be a free agent? And if so, could he not somewhat transfer in this sense at anytime?

I realize it's a lot of weird hypotheticals, but it seems the word of transfers is changing a bit.

{Ed002's Note - No, it doesn't work like that. The registration passes between clubs. The involvement of the player is to avoid an issue with Spanish tax law - nothing else. The player does not provide the money - the buying club provides the money and deposit it with the Spanish FA (with the player having to provide permission and assurances about about monies owed to him).

Adidas are not allowed to become the owner of a player or to pay a player in order to control what happens in his career - that is illegal in most countries under FIFA rules. As I said, the registration passes between clubs and the clubs have to be associated with a Football Association with which the player is registered. His registration has to pass between football clubs - e.g. Barcelona to Liverpool, and not via Adidas. There are very strict rules about anything that would allow any third party to acquire the ability to influence employment and transfer-related matters. So it can't happen.}


4.) 01 Sep 2017 18:04:10
Got it. Thank you very much, appreciate the very thorough explanation!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


 

 

15 Feb 2016 17:09:20
I read the other day that we had sent scouts to watch Nkoudou of Marseilles. Any real interest there for Liverpool? Kid is having a pretty good season looks like.

RDL

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine or read the posts.}


 

 

30 Oct 2015 17:22:17
Article up on the Echo from Pearce talking about how Klopp plans to overhaul the loan system (although calling it a system is probably being generous) we've been using. Even if nothing else, that alone makes me quite happy.

Short version is he seems to think it would be better to keep more of the kids here rather than elsewhere on loan (also mentioned he drove down to Wolverhampton to watch Ojo, but Ojo didn't play- love the commitment there honestly) .

Curious what others think about this?

RDL

{Ed001's Note - it is something we knew, and mentioned, when he was appointed and something most of us have been saying for years. It has been a mess but hopefully Klopp will sort out the loan system and make it work for us, rather than ruining players.}


1.) 30 Oct 2015 18:46:18
The loan system to me especially under Rodgers meant they wernt fancied and eventually would be sold. We never seen a young player go out on loan, return and get a chance never mind a run of games. All the wrongs at the club, klopp has easily iddentified and is correcting. That is what a top manager and one with common sense can do.
when Kelly was sold i was gutted. Youth product and he had one real outstanding season at right back and could have turned into a quality centre back. His end product going forward was mostly excellent . His sale was a real shame.


2.) 30 Oct 2015 18:54:46
Over 100 out on loan in the last 5 years, only 2 came back and made it to the first team.


3.) 30 Oct 2015 19:41:18
Thought Kelly's injury prompted his sale? Also if them stats are are correct it's a bloody disgrace.


4.) 30 Oct 2015 21:51:47
I might be alone in thinking this but players we loaned under Rodgers often seemed that Rodgers was like, "yyyyyeahh I don't know what to actually do with you, I'll put you in the too hard basket".


5.) 31 Oct 2015 07:34:46
I am happy for any fresh thinking about anything in the club. Just to say though, there is a limit to how many players you can use in official games, and at some point you may also want some stability in your squad. Having players that rarely play for the senior team is not very useful for their career and is also costly to us because we have to pay their salaries. In principle, the idea that if someone is unlikely to get many minutes in the senior squad is loaned to a lower side so he can play there doesn't look so outrageous to me. It worked with Kane in Spurs, it seemed to have worked for us with Ibe And Textiera (at least for those who think they should play more for us now, I am not one of them) .

As I said before, Chelsea has more players in loan than us. You also have to accept that there will always be some young players you will buy and will not make it to the first team but it is hard to know these things in advance and a loan system is one method to sort the ready ones from the not so ready and from the never will be ready.

Of course you can decide you buy fewer young players or that if you are not sure about someone you sell them rather than loan or that you sell some of our senior players and hope for the best with the youngsters (not wise IMO, as I said before I don't see reason to prefer players just because they are young) . But having so many players, let all of them play, being able to pay all the salaries and keep everyone happy seems to me a big task.

{Ed001's Note - actually it never worked for Kane at all, he struggled badly on loan, it was only when Spurs had no choice but to throw him for the long term that he prospered. Loans, in the main, are not a good way to develop young players, most of the time they do not bring them on as expected. There are very few young players that have reached their potential due to loans. It is those that get thrown into the first team that become the top players, in the main.

How many players have Chelsea loaned out and how many of them have become first team players afterwards? It is a very haphazard way of developing players, it is more about making money in the way they use it. In my opinion they should just scrap loans altogether.}


 

 

09 Oct 2015 15:57:41
According to an article by Ben Smith, Klopp indicated he wanted to go watch one of our youth games in the coming week. Brilliant start, that- hope he makes frequent appearances at them.

RDL

1.) 09 Oct 2015 16:17:28
Agree 100%, think that's a great. Will be a good way to build enthusiasm through the whole club and inspire the youngsters.


2.) 09 Oct 2015 16:45:27
It is also the way good managers do business.


 

 

25 Jun 2015 17:52:35
Curious if any of the Eds have any insight into who is selecting the players we are buying? Is it BR, the committee, other? The targets overall seem much better in terms of fit and quality than we seem to have seen in the past and the club seems generally more aggressive with the approaches they are taking- not complaining about it, mind.

RDL

{Ed001's Note - as I said yesterday, I have no idea who is doing all this.}


1.) 25 Jun 2015 19:08:54
It's super Ian ayre behind this.
Btw ED001 you surprised mate at how suddenly we are completing transfers in a jiffy efficiently and without any drama?

{Ed001's Note - shocked mate, I normally expect it all to go wrong and am very rarely disappointed in that front!}


2.) 25 Jun 2015 19:15:03
Ed001

I smell a conspiracy theory . Ayre has been cloned

{Ed001's Note - I think that would lead to the end of the world if there were two Ian Ayres. The world just couldn't handle it.}


3.) 25 Jun 2015 19:15:41
It seams to me as if one person is doing the selecting of players. Whoever that might be but by the speed of things surely it's just one person?!?


4.) 25 Jun 2015 20:05:48
Cmon lads Ian had taken a bit of stick over the years and rightly so on some occasions. But let's not forget he was a man who went against the Hicks and Gillett regime and for that we got to be thankful.


5.) 25 Jun 2015 20:10:15
Ed001Nah mate. The world only has to deal with one . The other one's locked with Rodgers in J.W.H's closet. 😂😂

{Ed001's Note - are you trying to tell us something? If Ayre is about to come out the closet I would like to volunteer my services as a shoulder for his missus to cry on.....}


6.) 25 Jun 2015 20:23:42
{Ed001's Note - are you trying to tell us something? If Ayre is about to come out the closet I would like to volunteer my services as his first male experience}

Ha sorry Ed when I first started reading that I thought you were just about to tell us you have come out!! Now that's one the Mrs could get angry with you about!!

{Ed001's Note - she doesn't need any excuses mate.}


7.) 25 Jun 2015 20:24:17
Thanks, Ed001- missed your comments yesterday. Whatever group or person is making the decisions, they seem to be doing a credible job so hope it continues.


8.) 25 Jun 2015 20:38:18
Mrs ayre good looking ed?

{Ed001's Note - she is hot enough it would be worth getting grief off the missus for 'taking care' of her!}


9.) 25 Jun 2015 20:42:06
I'd rather henry came out. I'd be more interested in lending henrys wife a shoulder. On second consideration I'd be willing to lend anything to Henry's wife

{Ed001's Note - the only thing she might consider lending you is 50p...}


10.) 26 Jun 2015 00:37:06
Aye as if JWHenrys wife carrys around coins


 

 

 

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30 Jan 2018 19:45:18
They do have that Sancho kid now (who looks really impressive to me, particularly for a 17 year old), so maybe they're a bit more willing to sell, but I can't see them letting him go for anything less than a absolute fortune.

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29 Jan 2018 21:29:46
Be interesting to see how he performs.

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29 Jan 2018 19:33:40
Can barely contain my excitement.

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29 Jan 2018 17:27:34
Would Man City, United, or Chelsea sell their best player without a replacement? We don't know because it generally doesn't happen. All three make more money than us, can pay more in wages, and partially due to those two are or have won things recently and therefore don't tend to have a lot of want away players (although one could argue Costa was pretty important for Chelsea and he still wanted out and they did sell him) . Until we're able to show we can compete nearer the top rather than for 5th/ 6th, this will continue. The best we can do is what we've been doing, the slow, annoying grind upwards. The glimmer of hope is that we could well bypass Arsenal this year in revenue. If we can pull off another season in the CL spaces at their expense, then that may continue and starts to set us on a decent path forward.

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25 Jan 2018 16:46:04
Anyone who has actually seen Lemar play a fair bit- is he worth £90M or whatever in your opinion? I realize stats aren't everything, but his don't seem particularly impressive so wondering what it is about him that puts him into that sort of company?

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11 Jan 2018 23:31:09
As an American, I'm always amazed at how many professional football teams there are in England, especially in some of the realtively small cities.

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11 Jan 2018 19:22:32
I honestly can't see either of those as remotely realistic.

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11 Jan 2018 00:17:42
Assaidi. Seemed like not even our own staff knew we had signed him.

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20 Sep 2017 16:11:50
We have a sporting director, question really is whether Edwards is up for the job or not.

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18 Sep 2017 21:59:32
A defensive midfielder (e. g. Can in this situation) should have tracked the runner from midfield, thus preventing the goal attempt. Can stopped running and started watching, I imagine the hope is someone else in that situation might have maybe kept running.

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