05 May 2016 06:07:20
Why do you guys reckon the European home games typically have better atmosphere than the PL home games?

I think it may have to do with the fact that season ticket holders aren't necessarily the most passionate supporters - more like the ones who can afford the prices.

Whereas Cup games, especially Euro games, gives the others the chance to catch a home game. So they make the most of it and sing their hearts out for our beloved lfc. Lol

Seriously some of our PL home games atmospheres have been bleh. I swear I hear more singing at away games than home games sometimes .

TNWA.

1.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 06:28:02
I think your reasoning is absolutely ridiculous. I am a season ticket holder and believe me the fans who hold a season ticket are by far the loudest and most interested in the game.

It frequently annoys me when I go to the game and somebody who doesn't get to go much is there with their camera phones out. As they are the fans who spend all game with their phone out taking pictures. That is not creating an atmosphere! If they want to watch the game through a screen why don't they stay at home and watch it on tv.

Premier league atmosphere are terrible I agree with you, but its always been the case that a match under the lights seems to generate a great atmosphere.

{Ed001's Note - I agree on the phones. That is my pet hate. I would ban them from the ground myself.}

2.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 06:45:48
It's a better atmosphere on European nights because more of the local support gets there, so the complete opposite of your point really.

3.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 06:54:54
Why does it annoy you that people have the cameras out? Perhaps they aren't fortunate enough to to be able to afford to go every week or simply can't go every week as it is so hard to get tickets, or they have supported us from the other side of the world for so long as this is the first chance they have had to come to anfield, so they take photos as memories. I am dam sure they don't have the phone out all game. If Liverpool supporters only came from Liverpool it wouldn't be half the club. We have to appreciate all the money these one times spend as I'm sure a season ticket holder won't buy a shirt, t-shirt, scalf at every home game.

{Ed001's Note - it has nothing to do with where they are from, it is the fact they are not taking part in creating the atmosphere or even enjoying it. They may as well sit at home and not ruin it for everyone else, because they are only watching through a screen. This is the problem with the modern day world we live in, no one enjoys the moment as they are too busy trying to record it so they can boast about it to everyone else. You don't need pics if you have memories. There are plenty of professional photographers etc recording pics that you can use to remind yourself if needed.}

4.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:01:27
Agree with Waro and Liverbirdaet.

Secondly your not really comparing like with like. The knockout stages of a European tie are high stakes and all or nothing matches. If you had gone to the home match against Sion this season or Ludogorets in the champions league last season you would have noticed the atmosphere was flat for most of the game.

5.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:07:48
Fair do's ed I appreciate what you are saying and agree. I got slightly distracted by the actual point been made about the atmosphere. But it's only natural to take photos to relive the memory. Any way, it will be bouncing tonight, and I'm sure there will be one or 2 taking photos, or videoing YNWA.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see the point in it. I don't want to share what I have done with all and sundry, I would rather enjoy the moment.}

6.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:10:02
With respect to photos - no problem with people taking photos 20-30 minutes before kick off or at half time. There's no need to take them during the match.

7.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:15:50
I'm fine with taking pics, but only as long as you contribute to the atmosphere at the same time. I don't mind when people take part in a Kop chant and record it at the same time. That stuff goes onto youtube and I sometimes like watching it, it can be quite hair-raising.

It's different at concerts though. I'm sure artists hate seeing their audience stand there with their phones out like zombies.

8.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:24:36
I hate videos full stop apart from family ones, they take the videos then rarely watch them again. Enjoy it through your eyes not a screen.

Just on the atmosphere I think it's more a case in premier league games that everyone's scared to start singing. I'm from Leeds and been a Liverpool supporter all my life but at my first game a few lads round me kept saying it annoys them how non local lads get to games. Are 'tourist' fans going to sing in that?

9.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 07:25:54
Eds point is right, I think it's fair t say it's a general life trend, not a Liverpool local vs. away supporter thing (apart from the novelty of videoing everything wearing off for those who are fortunate to watch all the games) . Just go to any school play with every mom and dad watching the kids through a screen if you don't agree!

I visited Anfield as someone who can't make a lot of games and took a few photos, but when singing or during the game it should be firmly packed away. Memories should be exactly that - in your mind - otherwise you're a recorder of the event, not a participant.

As an aside, I firmly believe both locals and passionate visitors deserve the chance to watch games but most tickets should be to true local fans and no more than 30% to visitors. Those should be sold in a fairer way however instead of everyone getting scalped if they want to get to the odd game from overseas.

Atmosphere and rewarding true fans is everything since ticket sales are a relatively small variable in overall income.

10.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 08:09:38
I agree to a point about the phones, IF they are doing it excessively BUT you got to understand that the likes of me that live virtually on the borders of Scotland but have supported the club since I was a toddler and get to may be two home games a season like something to remember. Yes I am guilty of getting my phone out every time I go but it's only to take a couple of photos or videos, especially when singing YNWA, it's always something special. Someone that has come half way round the world to attend a game deserve the chance of a few photos in my opinion. Yes it can be annoying but if you only get to a couple of games in your life then what's going to be more important to you, photos or singing? Both is the answer! If anyone caught the LFC game in Australia last pre-season then they would of saw a jam packed stadium singing their heart out AND taking photos and creating an atmosphere that put Anfield to shame! We have to accept that LFC are a worldwide club and without these fans the club would be nothing, for me we should embrace all fans not bitch about them!

11.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 08:09:46
Sadly my generation are fairly obsessed with documenting every moment of their life and even fairly mundane incidents are met with he reaction of 'pics or it didn't happen'. And we are infecting both upwards and downwards!

On the actual point, every club has a better atmosphere in cup games then they do in league games. Chances are its because of the stakes on that one game.

12.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 08:14:11
Agee fully with Ron. Get your pictures and memories before kick off. Once the game kicks off its about singing and shouting from the stands and supporting the club vocally. Nothing worse than 1000 camera phones focussing on every corner and free kick, and that's from someone who only gets to a couple of home games per season.
To a point to a previous post about being able to afford the season ticket, in my experience the vast majority of fans with a season ticket could not truly afford it, its just because they prioritise the season ticket above other things. For some that is because they have the opportunity to, for others they simply push other things down the line to be able to afford it, things that other people wouldn't be willing to push back.
And the point about a cup game being under lights and knock out is something I also agree with.

13.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 08:44:58
It's because our spoilt fans can be bothered for the big games. They don't bother against the little teams with virtually every set of fans that comes to Anfield singing "where's your famous atmosphere? " they're right it only comes on the big occasions. Too many families, too many day trippers, too many under 10s and too few local young people and too few songs where have all our song writers gone? Get going for every game like the little clubs do and suddenly we will stop losing and drawing home games no doubt about it.

14.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 08:56:53
Cant join this bandwagon unfortunately, if its your first time and u want a personal account of some moment i see no problem taking a short vid or a couple of pics especially if its a good moment. Some can multitask and take a pic and still chant or scream their lungs out as long as their not blocking someone elses view etc.

15.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 09:24:40
I've only been to 4 games. A friendly against Bayer Leverkusen, a Europa league game against Besiktas, and premier league games against City and Sunderland. I have only ever taken one picture inside Anfield though and that was of Steven Gerrard warming up about 30 minutes before kick off in the Leverkusen Friendly.

I actually had a mate at the City game who kept getting his phone out to record bits of the game. It proved Ed001's point though because on the way home we were discussing the game and there were parts he couldn't remember. The bit that really got me was when the whole crowd sang YNWA pre-kickoff. Instead of joining in with the singing he busted out his phone and recorded it. I didn't say anything because he's one of my best mates and he got the tickets which I'm forever grateful for, but it just seems such a waste to be there and get absorbed in your phone instead of absorbed in the atmosphere.

16.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 10:58:11
Mk Scouser I agree with what your saying. I in all honesty cannot see the point in videoing bits of the game. That is pointless and annoying. I don't see any harm in getting a photo out for special occasions, a rendition of YNWA can be very moving or when both sets of fans are waving justice for 96 flags, also again very moving. Just be respectful to others around you is my opinion.

17.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 11:00:01
I go the European games and Cup games.
Can't do the Weekend Prem matches.
lot of people on Here think they're better than others, sat infront of your TV moaning, complaining on the Live Feed.
I'll be singing, win lose or draw.
stood on the Kop with my brother and son. YNWA.

18.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 11:26:16
I personally don't see how someone can't add to the atmosphere as well as taking photos. Are the two exclusive?

19.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 11:36:26
Yeah that's what I thought at the time natural poolie. Live and let live. If others would prefer to live life through video and photo memories then that is fine. I prefer emotional memories though. And how it made me feel being completely as one with the Kop atmosphere was incredible. It is for that reason that the Besiktas game is my fondest memory. It was the only game I've been to where there wasn't a single goal from open play but I was seated bang in the middle of the Kop and when the big flag comes over your head and you can only see the guy next to you and everyone is belting out Liverpool chants it is just spectacular. I don't need a photo or a video to remember that feeling. It will go with me to the grave.

I'm not really for or against any kind of supporters or phones etc. As long as everyone In the stadium enjoys themself, is that not the magic of football? People love it for different reasons and enjoy it in different ways. I was just happy to be in the stadium. I've even come to terms with the 77 minute walk out. I was there and at the time I was disgusted, but when I think back on it, for whatever reason those fans felt robbed and it sucked the joy out of their Anfield experience. So they had every right to protest. I don't agree with it still, but I do understand/ respect it and I do regret what I said at the time to the likes of Waro and co. I called them a disgrace and I was wrong, so I apologise. Football is for the fans and everyone in that stadium should be allowed to enjoy it; however that is done for them personally.

20.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 11:38:57
Same as any major event, football matches, concerts etc. Unfortunately it's modern day life. When was the last time anyone asked a player for an autograph rather than a selfie.

21.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 09:48:06
People spend so much time taking photo's to make a memory that they forget to enjoy the moment in the first place. I try and tell that to my wife who insists on taking 3000 photo's of the kids (which is great) but let's not forget to enjoy the moment in the first place.

22.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 12:36:27
From Australia. I've watched 1 game at Anfield. All I wanted was to video ynwa. But I got caught up in the moment and forgot. Lol.

Took a couple of pics. When they were lining up for a corner. Probs about 6 overall. And of a very young Agger walking the boundary signing autographs

Loved it. Can't wait to go back.

23.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 12:04:25
It is because we are actually playing for something. In the prem we are not . But on the odd ocassions we have been playing for the prem the atmosphere had been electric . Playing norwich in a game that maked the difference between getting 7th or 8th isn't going to create atmosphere. If it was near the end if the season and we were playing to win the title in the prem it would be a huge atmosphere. Cups games have more significance to nothing games in the prem,

24.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 15:28:24
Took my camera to Istanbul, got great pics of Garcia warming up and the stadium before the match. Next photo was Gerrard holding up the trophy. The match and the atmosphere was incredible, everyone was singing. Didn't feel the need to take any pics during play, but then my cameras not that fancy.

25.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 17:42:24
I think many people are missing the point here. There is nothing more annoying than being at the match and seeing people treating it as a tourist attraction. Yes I get it that many Liverpool fans don't get to Anfield much and this is their opportunity to take it all in. But the match is not a tourist attraction its all about, for the 90 mins, supporting the team.
If you want a photo then do the stadium tour, if you want a video of the crowd singing ynwa go on line there are thousands of them. It's not about going to Anfield so you can tag yourself in on social media and seeing how many likes you can get.
Rant over. I be at anfield tonight does anyone need a photo taken? Come on reds!

26.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 18:16:46
Hi all,

I'd just like to add my own experience to this discussion as someone definitely not from the area.

I'm from Hong Kong and I've been incredibly fortunate to be able to go to Anfield once (for the first time in my life) to the Man city game where we beat them 4-1. The reason why I say incredibly fortunate is because I'm currently studying in the UK (leaving in about 2 months though) and was able to get a face value ticket off of someone, but when I got there I met two other 'tourists' from Hong Kong who flew all the way from Hong Kong just to watch that and the Cup final. I asked them how much it was and they said the whole package (flying + 2 match tickets) costed them 5000+ pounds each, compared to my face value ticket. The reason why I bring this up was because I asked them after the game how they thought the atmosphere was etc, and they said they absolutely loved it but wished they knew how to sing the songs.

Obviously both myself and the two of them did take pictures at the match (I mainly filmed the warm-ups and a few corners in hope I could record them score), but I knew how to sing a few songs so I joined in with building the atmosphere, while they didn't really know what to do so they just watched the game (and took photos) .

You can't exactly say that they're hollow or plastic fans (I mean they were willing to give up to 5k just to watch their favourite team), but even with the money aside, just remember that for a lot of these 'tourists' English isn't their first language and/ or they don't know a lot of the songs (apart from YNWA of course! )

I'm not trying to say that foreign fans are better than local fans or vice versa (far from it! ), I'm just sharing my own experiences as well as the experiences of those around me. Just remember that no matter where fans are from, we all love the club and YNWA!

FYI I was really lucky that the person next to me taught me how to sing a few songs which helped a lot, so next time if there's a 'foreign' fan who doesn't sing or is taking pictures, give him a hand and I'm sure he'll appreciate it!

YNWA everyone!
Kopchu.

{Ed002's Note - Graet post Kopchu.}

27.) 05 May 2016
05 May 2016 19:06:16
post of the week! Kopchu.

I now live in the US, But will be cheering from behind my computer screen today. YNWA.