07 Dec 2023 10:05:48
With it being confirmed that Matip has ruptured his ACL and his contract being up in the summer there is a good chance that he has played his last game for us. If this is the case I wish him well. He has been a great servant for the club and will be remembered fondly.

Will this news have any effect in our January window? If we were planning to replace him in the summer anyway surely there is no downside to replacing him now instead (other than it obviously being harder to sign players mid-season) .

I am slightly concerned if we don't sign a new CB. I like Konate and I feel like most of the time he covers well when TAA steps up into midfield but it feels like he just switches off for periods in games. Last night he gifted them 2 great counter attack opportunities in the space of 2 minutes with a sloppy pass and then letting the ball run under his foot.
Gomez is probably the more solid bet defensively but we lose the dynamism of Matip/ Konate stepping into midfield and spraying a pass.

I think we now need to sign a first choice RCB to partner VVD. One who can step up into midfield and break the lines like Matip does and who has the pace and composure to cover the space at RB when it is vacated by Trent (not much to ask) .

Any of our target fit the bill Eds?

{Ed002's Note - I don't think Liverpool will be looking to replace Konate in January but there are CBs of interest.}

1.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 10:29:45
Thanks Ed. I wasn't suggesting that we replace Konate in January. just Matip.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect a new contract may be offered for a year.}

2.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 15:40:26
There may be some folks who don't like the idea of Matip getting another contract - waste of money, sick note, made of crisps etc.

However, I can see the sense in that given we have Quansah who has already impressed in the first team this season and Chambers who seems to be highly regarded too.

As long as Matip realises that he will essentially be proven cover and mentoring for the kiddies, he seems a perfect fit for that role.

Quansah is 20 and Chambers is 19. Between them they would save us an average of £20-£25m each at least even if they just grow into squad players rather than first teamers. I hope that at least one of them does grow into a first teamer.

{Ed025's Note - Matip as a mentor zed?...a mentor of what exactly?...concentration lapses, turning like a tanker in the Mersey, or how to lie on a sick bed?.. :)

3.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 15:49:04
With van Dijk, Konate, Gomez, and Quansah, I'm unsure I see the dire need for another CB. I wouldn't mind seeing someone with more reliable fitness coming in and replacing either Konate or Gomez next summer though.

What level of player are Liverpool looking at? Expensive, or more along the lines of Kabak again.

4.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 18:26:16
Quansah unproven. Maybe he'll get more time this season to play a more prominent role. Gomez and Konate both injury prone. We need a CB in the summer. Even if Quansah makes the grade, we can't rely on Gomez and Konate to stay fit. Between them they make one good CB, not two. As for Matip, I don't see how at 32 w a ruptured ACL that we can offer him a contract. That's really unfortunate for him but this is a business.

5.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 18:41:33
Klopp will do what he always does and what most fans fail to grasp, he will seek answers from within.
Transfer hungry fans may be disappointed again.

6.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 19:39:45
32 never fit and on big wages. Thanks for your service but i wouldn’t even consider extending him. There looks to be some top young centre backs out there i’d be bringing in a replacement.

7.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 20:31:29
For me, Matip should have been moved on and replaced in the summer. If there’s one part of Klopp I’m not keen on it’s his loyalty.

I think we missed a trick not going for Van de venn in the summer.

8.) 07 Dec 2023
07 Dec 2023 22:36:40
You’ve just proved my point Ed025, thanks mate!

Great win for your boys tonight -gravel voice is working wonders!

{Ed025's Note - hes just what the doctor ordered Zed, its not always pretty mate but if we put that sort of effort in all the time we can beat relegation and stick it to the man, im very proud of the team..

9.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 07:58:49
I agree with you Drogie. Van de Venn looks a very solid defender to me.

10.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 08:21:26
Everton very very lucky that the 3 teams who came up are so poor. They have escaped once again it seems ed.

{Ed025's Note - not quite yet Marty but i think you do us disservice mate, we are a decent side and only for the 10 point deduction would be ahead of Chelsea in 10th, yes we have a limited squad but Dyche has got the team galvanized and they are giving 100% every game which as a supporter is all we can ask for..

11.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 10:11:33
The 10 point deduction may turn out to be the stick that was needed to unite the club and have the mentality that everyone is against us…. And that could do the job and keep them up this season.

They also have the right manager to run a club that needs to fight for its survival.

{Ed025's Note - I think your spot on Tommy..

12.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 08:59:15
@Mftonjes - the level of a player isn’t judged by expense, it’s judged by skill, ability to work hard, ability to learn, ability to lead and loads of other skills - skill and expense aren’t the same thing. Just look at the money the likes of Chelsea and Man United have spent. Maguire (him again) cost £ 80m. As a bloke standing behind me on the Kop back in the early 1980’s said about a player …. “[He’s] not worth his weight in sh#t”.

13.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 13:57:44
Drogie
The same Micky van de Ven who's missed 22 matches/ 131 days in the last 18 months? The same Micky van de Ven who has a bang average 6.7 rating since joining Spurs?

OK.

14.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 15:33:38
WWW, yes, obviously, but there is a big difference in expectation/ risk that comes with the price of the player. (And nobody was going to pay that price for Maguire but United. )

If Liverpool are looking to bring in a guy for 10-20M vs 30-40M vs 60-80M, it sheds some light on their current goals and strategies within the transfer market, and also internal valuation of current talent.

15.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 20:13:27
25 - you blindly back your “best midfielder in the premier” whose name I can’t recall and we’ll back Matip ?.

{Ed025's Note - Andre Gomes faith, broke his leg and was never the same again, if i were you i would back Matip as well mate...in the donkey derby.. :)

16.) 08 Dec 2023
08 Dec 2023 22:08:12
I think Matip has won it all with Liverpool. Not bad for a tanker ?.

{Ed025's Note - Djimi Traore won a champions league winners medal irish...enough said i think mate.. :)

17.) 09 Dec 2023
09 Dec 2023 12:44:50
So people saying we missed a trick with van der ven, he is injured do we realise this, and quite a bad hamstring injury, we all know what happened to torres and Owen after a few of them?
Imagine if we signed him then he got this injury after 2 months, cries of another sicknote come to mind!

18.) 10 Dec 2023
10 Dec 2023 00:53:33
Agree with Ed025 on traore. Even a bag of cement would have done a better job at left back. Vvd makes everyone beside him look decent.

19.) 10 Dec 2023
10 Dec 2023 06:37:50
@Mftonjes, I think you are missing the point I’m trying to make. The club has said that their aim is to get the right player at the right price. Another way of looking at it is value for money. We offered over £110m for Caicedo in the summer because the club thought he was worth the money. Fortunately, he went to Chelsea …. We then offered less than £20m for Endo because that is what the club thought he was worth.

There were a few people on here that thought we had £110 m in an imaginary transfer kitty and we should have spent it on ‘someone’, ‘anyone’, but from the club’s perspective there wasn’t anybody out there worth the money that their clubs (or agents) were asking for. It may be that we sign a CB in January and he may cost a fair bit. Equally there may be a CB that the club want for less than £10m. The point is that the club (tries to) spend the right amount of money, not unnecessarily large amounts of money because fans think that makes us a ‘big’ club.

20.) 10 Dec 2023
10 Dec 2023 06:42:15
What ever happened to that full back you had that you were saying was the best in the League - the French lad, Digne was it? He seems not to have quite kicked on.

21.) 11 Dec 2023
11 Dec 2023 15:22:13
WWW, I wasn't really disagreeing with you at all. I'm really just here for Ed's insights, and looking for any new details on how the club are leaning in the transfer market as it sheds light into their internal evaluations of players and gives you some indication of where they may be leaning in the transfer market. I find that stuff very interesting. I wasn't really declaring what the club should do.