Liverpool Discussion posts 2

20 Oct 2025 18:59:35
I'm in agreement with fans who say change is needed

Why? Because it's clear slot doesn't see any problems at all. so fellas what's it going to take for him to realise? . 12 points behind Arsenal? . 18th place in the champions league by late December.

20 Oct 2025 19:23:23
That won’t happen redrebel I will guarantee you that.

To change a manager because of a 4 game poor run is absolutely ridiculous. If that’s a club you want to support you should go and support Forest, Watford or Chelsea. It’s beyond idiotic and a one way ticket to obscurity.

20 Oct 2025 18:03:33
What did we think of Oliver's performance?

First a head injury - even if it's a clash with own player the game is stopped right away. Oliver played on! Why?

Foul on Grav he gives foul to man utd. Oliver had two assistant refs and 4th official and they got that wrong gave the foul to Casemiro!

Gapko crosses ball in hit utd player on his hand no penalty var cleared it:

The players hand was not by his side it was out in front of him and he was far enough away to get it out the way. Seen so many given for exactly this Oliver no penalty?

I am not saying we would of won the game but these were poor decisions by Mick Oliver - Once again against us.

20 Oct 2025 18:38:10
Terrible, but did we expect any different?

We should've won even with him in the middle anyway.

20 Oct 2025 19:33:06
You can add Szob free kick that Dorgu stuck his leg out to block from 4 yards away. Should’ve been taken again and a yellow card for Dorgu. Instead he gives us a throw in. No card for Dorgu.

Mbeumo kicking out at Gakpo, nowhere near the ball. No card. Then he injured Grav with a cynical trip again nowhere near the ball. No foul or card.

I think the penalty incident was 50/ 50 but could’ve been given. With Oliver and England as officials I didn’t even claim for it as I knew they were never giving us that.

The Macca head injury they are saying he didn’t see it. He looked straight at Macca from about 7 yards away as soon as it happened. You can clearly see it.

We should’ve won anyway I agree but had all of those decisions gone our way which they could’ve and with the exception of the penalty absolutely should’ve then we win the game comfortably. that's how much a ref can influence a result.

{Ed025's Note - i think you had the chances to win it as well Robbo and for me you were the better side actually...but dont give us all this "woe is me" malarkey by highlighting every decision that did not go your way, we all get bad decisions against us at times thats just football..

20 Oct 2025 20:08:21
At Leicester away last season when Trent scored a Leicester player was down with a head injury but the referee allowed play to continue and not one Liverpool supporter was saying play should have been stopped. This constant whining about referees is embarrassing, these are minor decisions you are talking about that have no impact on the overall result.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Thunderbird..

20 Oct 2025 20:27:26
I wasn’t saying ‘woe is me’ Ed far from it but the OP started a discussion about the ref and his poor decisions so I highlighted some which ultimately did have an impact on the result.

I’m not saying we lost because of them, we lost because we didn’t take our chances but these poor decisions did happen and it was a thread about Oliver’s performance.

Once again you misread something put your brain to work and come up with the wrong conclusion.

{Ed025's Note - it sounded like sour grapes to me, listen you got beat..it happens, just deal with it..

20 Oct 2025 20:49:45
I do deal with it Ed. Better than most on here who want people sacked, dropped, replaced it’s completely ridiculous.

I’ve said time and time again if you can’t take losing football matches choose another sport because losses are inevitable.

I’m probably the last person on this site you should tell to ‘just deal with it’.

{Ed025's Note - i think you all need a reality check Robbo, ok you are not playing great at the moment but the response has been over the top imo, still reigning champions and 3rd in the table after only 8 games...your sense of entitlement does stagger me at times, a few narrow defeats and its sack the manager and sell all the players who are not in form or up to speed yet...really!!, very much all the other teams would bite your arm off to be in your position and have the players you have, best supporters in the world?...my arse..

20 Oct 2025 23:10:08
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying Ed. How can we go from ‘it’s great to be a Liverpool fan right now’ 3 weeks ago to ‘sack the manager a change is needed’?

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Football teams lose football matches. It’s all part of the game. They are human beings not robots and they make mistakes. Nobody in the world is at the top of their game every day. In any walk of life.

I get that it’s frustrating, I’m frustrated too! Nobody likes losing but the reaction to it is mind boggling. The forensic criticism of the players, the manager, the system is just madness in my opinion.

We have one of the best teams in Europe who are struggling for balance right now but stick with it and I’ve no doubt it will come good. These players and manager are too good for this to go on too long. We all just need to chill.

20 Oct 2025 23:37:31
Robbo, you are ignoring the fact that performances have been poor for most of the season. It's not like we were playing fantastic football prior to the last 4 games. Even when we were winning our first 7 games of the season people were saying it's great winning but performances need to improve, instead they are getting worse.

I'm not saying Slot needs to go but he needs to fix this and quickly because right now he looks lost and seems to be making odd decisions and only the most bias of supporters can't see this.

20 Oct 2025 18:00:42
Why is Salah still in the team?

20 Oct 2025 21:19:24
Because the manager is one of the worst for picking a line up for a match. I thought the Plymouth game last season was a one off. But he is consistently picking the wrong line up for the match in front of him. Wirtz on the last against Palace.

The Endo substitutions, only just realising Chiesa is our best attacker. He seems to not be able to see the wood for the trees. Tbh sounds mad but I hope we lost the next game just so Slot is fired and someone with eyes becomes manager.

20 Oct 2025 23:48:16
Imagine wanting your own football team to lose. Pathetic.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely..

20 Oct 2025 12:05:51
I know I'm mere man and slot is well slot.
Here is the team for the next game and games going forwards, stick with it and build some momentum.

Wirtz Ekitike Chiesa

Jones Gravenberch Szoboszlai

Robo Van Dyk Konate Bradley

Marmaduke

That's what I would like us to stick with for a few games.

20 Oct 2025 14:35:06
I see similarities to Rogers time and Bielsa suggested he play midfield diamond and it transformed us that season. I’d suggest doing similar might get us getting more out of Wirtz, the full backs and get more cover through the middle. I’d go:
Mama
Frimpong Konate VVD Robbo
Grav
Dom. Jones
Wirtz
Chiesa/ Isak. Ekitike

Full backs provide the width and Wirtz gets free role similar to Coutinho under Rodgers.

20 Oct 2025 15:09:45
Marma

Frimpong Konate. VVD. Kerkez

Grav

Szob Jones

Wirtz

Chiesa. Ekitike.

20 Oct 2025 15:14:12
Are we hoping that Gravenberch is fit though?

20 Oct 2025 19:21:27
Agree butter
I think that formation would suit the players we have
Need Wirtz to be able to float behind the lines and to do that Hugo and Isak can stretch the opponents.

20 Oct 2025 05:34:21
I told you guys, the longer slot has had with this group the worse the performances have become.

As soon as we sealed the title last season he implemented this garbage and we all thaught the end of last season was just down to players having too much of a party, but these problems didn't start now, neither is it due to the new players, it's the system and coaching that was implimented after we won the league.

We are forcing a style of play that firstly doesn't fit the league we are in, it doesn't fit the players we have and is easy to play through.

Its like taking a Ferrari and forcing it to go off road just because you enjoy offroading instead of the track. Eventually you will break something in the Ferrari that will be very costly to fix.

Either slot changes the system back to how we won the league or we make a management change but now is the time or else the ferrari will break and it's going to be costly.

20 Oct 2025 08:17:48
Actually the way we played/ the way he experimented with playing when we sealed the title is very different from how we are playing now. Grav would drop in between the center halves, who would split wide, the full backs would push up, our wingers would come inside to the half spaces. That feels a LOT closer to how many of us would have imagined Slot to set the team up with Wirtz coming in and two flying full backs. Maybe folks on here should stop it with this tired diatribe that we started playing this way after beating Spurs and have been crap ever since.

19 Oct 2025 23:44:31
Well, Slot would be seen ima different light of the Isak and Salah and Gakpo chances went in. And I'm not asking about the two that hit the post as well. The 3 standard chances that players of their calibre would normally score. Utd didn't hammer Liverpool.

Am I right in thinking that we need to.

1. Eliminate / reduce number of set pieces we concede.
2. Work on transitions when losing the ball as teams give us possession and squeeze us until we make mistakes and then counter or long ball. The longer you have the ball the chance of a mistake increases. Teams are happy for us to have the ball 40 yards from the goal and in the extreme wide areas. They simply flood the box and just in front with a banks of 5 and 4 and wait for a mistake.
3. Work on increasing the number of goals we score through set pieces.
4. For me, Ekitkeke starts, he has energy and will press better. Isak looks lost off the ball at the moment. Price tags do not guarantee you a starting place.