05 Jun 2024 21:21:43
Good luck to Calvin Ramsay out on loan at Wigan next year. Hopefully he can finally stay fit and show what he can do.
05 Jun 2024 21:56:01
Well said @MK. Really feel sorry for the lad - seemed like he had a very bright future when he signed but has. Not been lucky with his injuries. Hopefully a year to re-establish himself and to kick on.
05 Jun 2024 22:33:20
Ed01 had him down as challenging for place, next season, if I remember. Never going to happen.
{Ed001's Note - no I had him down as cover. Not once have I ever suggested he would challenge Bradley for a place or Trent. In fact I have said all along he is a bad buy and should never have been brought to the club. Not that he js a bad player when fit, just that we never needed him and had better already at the club.}
06 Jun 2024 00:46:42
I think next season is him putting himself in the shop window. Like I say, I hope he can stay injury free and get himself back on track. I think he’s a chance to be a good player but it seems that he has limited chance of game time with Bradley and TAA on the books.
06 Jun 2024 07:38:49
If Trent eventually moves in to midfield, then we would need him to cover RB potentially.
06 Jun 2024 07:48:55
Agree WDW. I've been vocal about getting him off the books but there is still the human aspect to all this. He's a young kid who has had his career wrecked by a stress fracture in his back, then a leg break, and god knows what else. I feel for him and hope he can bounce back. I'm getting flashbacks to Martin Kelly, who also could've been a good option for us had he not been falling apart every year.
06 Jun 2024 08:09:46
TBF to ED1, he has always championed Bradley as the special talent to play RB, i think Mbuembo, Ignacio, Wharton and Hincapie would be agreat transfer window.
06 Jun 2024 09:15:20
Can say i've seen much of wharton, he that good?
{Ed001's Note - if it is the lad Palace got from Blackburn, yes.}
06 Jun 2024 09:20:21
Like the look of the lad Rigg at Sunderland, looks a player.
06 Jun 2024 12:14:55
Yeah it's the Palace lad, could be a player for the next decade, he is going to be class and already runs games at such a young age.
06 Jun 2024 12:17:20
Got to feel for Ramsey with the injuries. Hopefully a good injury free year at Wigan will be the making of him.
Personally, I think his future position is still undecided. Wouldn't surprise me to see him tried in a few positions as he develops. He's a big rangey lad who is good with both feet. Lots of options for him. But, he needs to get lucky with injuries first.
06 Jun 2024 12:23:38
Is there enough data on Wharton? He seemed to appear out of nowhere after Glasner came in.
Anyone here follow him at Blackburn?
Have we ever shown interest in him?
Does he keep Cheick Doucoure out of the Palace team when fit?
{Ed001's Note - he joined in January didn't he? And pretty much took over their team to become their main man.}
06 Jun 2024 13:22:39
I first clocked Wharton a couple of years ago. Our very own Tyler Morton was on loan there and I think I actually said on here that Morton had been very good but had been outshone by Wharton. He is so classy. Going to the very top in my opinion. Closest thing any academy in this country has produced to Carrick for years. There is a dearth of good DM’s in the English game. So much so that people want to shoehorn blatant box to box CM’s like Hendo, Rice, Gallagher or Mainoo into the role. We seem to produce an abundance of AM and CM players but even if you go back to the supposed golden generation, they ultimately failed because Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard had no discipline to protect a defence. That generation might have done something if Hargreaves had managed to stay fit (or if Barry/ Carrick had come through 5 years earlier so they were all at their peak simultaneously) .
Wharton won’t stay at Palace for very long. A Champions League side beckons.
{Ed001's Note - he doesn't play DM for Palace. He is a playmaker, not a defensive midfielder, and they usually pair him with a more defensive minded player. A lot of the time it was Richards.}
06 Jun 2024 14:19:28
Yeah he does seem to have more freedom at Palace Ed. At Blackburn he was very much a sitter. He's one of them rare players who can actually do both. Hence why he reminds me more of Carrick than say Nicky Butt!
{Ed001's Note - when Morton was at Rovers, he sat to allow Wharton freedom.}
06 Jun 2024 14:58:42
In the games I watched Ed he definitely seemed to be sitting but maybe it was just that he was roaming to find space then. Often saw him taking the balls off the CB's toes though. I really like him either way. He's solid defensively, graceful on the ball, decent passing range, and sets the tempo for the team. I don't think it's coincidence that Palace became a better team after he joined. The platform he provides in midfield allows guys like Eze and Olise to express themselves.
{Ed001's Note - I do agree with you in that, he massively improved them.}
06 Jun 2024 18:17:15
I saw the Wharton kid play vs Us and City and yep, he is very talented.