20 Aug 2016 20:52:23
What's peoples thoughs on these rumors of A Chinese Investment Firm Everbright looking to buy a large stake In LFC as part of a conglomerate. Assuming them to be true of course. Rumors now that Fsg have hired Allen and Co to look into it.
I have previously always been averse to the idea of Liverpool being one of "them" but I don't think I would be averse to it if It can bring us success. Because mediocrity is really boring. Or willpeople still prefer Fsg's model which hasn't really bought success irrespective of vast amounts of money being spent.

1.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:10:51
In 6 years, despite all the money FSG has pumped into LFC, we have finished in the CL spots on 1 occasion and won 1 trophy.

Yes, we need the financial support.

2.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:13:43
The words "investment firm" concern me.
I would like the club to be run efficiently and not accumulating debt. Not bothered who's running the show, I just want the club to be run responsibly.

3.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:18:02
I thought Allen had joined Stoke?!

Surely his few years in the team don't qualify him to be able to represent the firm in a potential investment negotiation?!?!

4.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:23:02
We all want it to be run correctly but at the same time we all want to win, right now only one of those things is happening.

Fsg are in profit so far this window, they need help financing us.

5.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:25:59
Z
Just let it go man. Not in your domain 😂.

6.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:36:53
In an ideal world, we'd all love to see FSG bring us great success. Unfortunately football has been destroyed by money, the reality is, to be successful you need vast amounts of funding (granting they've spent a lot of transfers, however we need to be able to match the big teams in wages, which we're unable too) . If a consortium of any shape was to aquire Liverpool or a share in the club, and we're to bring us formidable success, I wouldn't be moaning. We all want to see our club returned to it's former great state and for that to happen we need a formidable amount of funding. We've fell so far behind the big teams not just in Europe but in England, due to Moores and co not taking advantage of the position we was in in the 80's. Let's hope if a takeover or a stake sale is to happen, Henry and co undertake due diligence and make sure we're in good hands with reasonable funding.

7.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:47:14
Which one of those things is happening right now Matt, because I can't see any evidence of either.

8.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:48:53
its more a change of tactics in recruitment if you ask me. the TC are a holy show. we do spend just unwise with it.

9.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:51:38
If there is investment will FSG still not hold the power as in majority shareholding. This investment if true is probably a way of getting a foothold to the Asian market making more money for FSG.

10.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 21:52:30
fsg have made so much money available every window plus propped the club up every month running at a loss, the money has been squandered away every window by incompetent fools Inc managers, not looming much better this time around, if you read what the eds post you will see the vast amount of money they have pumped into the club.

11.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:09:28
Money talks; First Chelsea, then Man City and now Man Utd will all buy the PL. Even though Arsenal have consistency and a manager and a style of play, they haven't won the title since Abramovich came and that reason is the spending.

12.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:16:48
FSG has made some really bad mistakes (Commoli anyone)
Thing is would a Chinese investment company make better business choices?
It's not a lack of funding or investment that's been holding us back since FSGs takeover it's the people (experts) brought in to run the club mostly. Klopp excluded.

{Ed002's Note - I am afraid to say it is getting very painful reading all of these posts.}

13.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:24:47
A partial investment means nothing to club necessarily as the money goes to the owners, not LFC. In FY15, FSG converted nearly £69M of loans into equity as well as loaned the club an additional £49M. FSG are and have been doing their bit, the managers, coaches, players and transfer committee members need to step up their side of things.

14.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:27:07
Real AG, you say United, Chelsea and City all buy the league. You've spent hundreds of millions on transfers over the years, you've just bought poorly. That's the issue. Someone said higher up you HAVE to have money to win. Well Leicester proved last season that's not always the case. With the money Liverpool have spent on transfers its criminal you have made top 4 once in 5/ 6 years. Imo, where you have gone wrong is rather than signing maybe two top players to improve the first 11, you buy 7 or 8 average players and bulk up the squad, not really improving your first 11. It's plain for every man and his dog to see your immediate priority should have been LB this season, the amount of goals you conceded down that side due to Moreno last year was unreal. Yet you've spent £25m on the lad from Newcastle who wasn't even needed. You haven't plenty for that position, better than him too. And penny pinch over your LB target. I can't get my head round it.

15.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:43:16
I don't think any of us understand it either, Stand. Bit of an odd one, really.

16.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 22:51:25
Stand united your correct in saying we have had the money to spend.

We have spent poorly over the years, but another major issue is that we can't match the wages like yourselves or city.

No way are we paying someone £250,000 a week.

17.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 23:01:32
Embarrassing posts them lads.

18.) 20 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 23:29:08
An investment would not be about transfers. Why the obsession with transfers?

China is a huge relatively untapped market for LFC and as such a local partner would be better equipped to tap into potential new revenue streams. That money trickles into the club and eventually onto the field.

It's obviously harder to market a brand without success, so surely any investment would aim to aid future success of our club.

19.) 21 Aug 2016
20 Aug 2016 23:58:16
Lavers, yeh I understand the wages can be an issue for you. Not just about transfer fees. Just feel Liverpool always seem to buy a lot of mediocre players who don't really make the first 11 much stronger, and should try focus on 2 or 3 quality players who will, each season, and build that way. There are players out there who don't demand huge wages. It's a bit early for me to big up our new CB Bailly, but so far he's looked a real improvement on our central defenders, and at 22 has huge potential. He's on £75k a week.

It's clear you have a lot of attacking quality, I just feel your still very fragile at the back. Klopp likes to play from the back, like Barcelona do, and from today's game has clearly instructed this. But for me he doesn't have enough quality in that department to play that way. Anyway, just my opinion that's all. I still think you'll be in the top 4 at least come May.

20.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 00:23:06
Stand they will be mid table at best everton will be the top team in merseyside this season because they will pay the wages and all this we are not going to pay will se liverpool fall further behind you are even behind hull and they only have 13 players.

21.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 00:30:14
Doesn't FFP matter anymore?
Even if a multitrillionaire decided to buy us, we are still bound by FFP.
So there's not going to be any deadline day mega-signing that we keep hearing about. No ambitious player would join our club at the moment anyway, multi billions or not.

22.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 00:37:22
We've got players with speed and technical ability. We've got players with the ability to score goals. But have we got players with the most important ingredient . mental strength. I'm not convinced we have. I think the Europa League Cup Final showed that .
Until we get that mental strength, and losing is not an option mentality, like other top teams have, we'll struggle to compete consistently.
It's up to our Manager to instil that mentality into the players, week in week out!

23.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 01:29:50
Wow, all of this because we lost to Burnley. We were title contenders yesterday.

24.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 05:57:02
Stand united

I can't argue with with ya, I've been saying the same thing for years.

Quantity over quality is our motto as a club, I questioned win album and klaven signings from the start. but what do I know.

25.) 21 Aug 2016
21 Aug 2016 10:25:53
It's all well and good Ron running the club responsibly but you need to get the initial investment to guarantee trophies and champions league every year then you can build from their to gain a more substantial income. Chelsea being a case in point.

A Mickey Mouse club that got investment to be successful now their revenues are higher than ours when they can't even fill their stadium every week. Man City are on the same path but with initially more supporters so can take it further than Chelsea. Success breeds success but unfortunately in this day and age to get the initial success you need the investment.

It's amazing that with our lack of recent success we can still even get within a mile of these clubs financially but with financial investment and success we could take the club to a whole new level.