11 Mar 2024 13:41:16
ED1 after klopps interview yesterday and some of his wording to questions. do you think he will use the last game of the season to vent his frustrations on the standard of officiating in the Premier league over the last four, five years, knowing there will be no repercussions for his words. I think he will use the opportunity myself.

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea but I really would love to see that!}

1.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 14:51:18
I was only thinking last night that if we were to win the league it would be fitting for him to pen an open letter calling out pgmol on their poor performances, not just for us but on a whole.

Would seem like sour grapes if we fail to win it though.

2.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 15:39:58
I’d be worried there’s a chance the club may end up in trouble if he did that while still under contract However I’ve got no doubt he’ll be on Monday night football or something similar next season and he’ll really be able to say what he thinks about them.

3.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 15:54:44
Imagine them wanting to fine him but he's not going to pay! That would be even more funny!

4.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 16:15:09
I’ve always thought that what happened at Spurs had a big impact on him and is part of the reason why he chose to quit.

I was an absolute shambles and when he called it out he got ridiculed. He was asked a question of what he thought should happen and he said ‘as a football man I think the game should be replayed’ and that was then reported as ‘Klopp demands a replay’ and he was again ridiculed and told to be quiet.

I just think that may have been the final straw and he just thought do you know what, I don’t need this.

I loved his little jibe at Mike Dean, that guy is a fool. He was an awful ref and he makes an even worse pundit. The way he defended Hooper and England was an absolute disgrace and for once I agreed with Merson. Just stop the game!

The fact that they would rather follow some made up protocol (which didn’t even apply in that situation) rather than just get the decision right says it all for me.

5.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 16:25:03
Finglarsred. It’s funny you thought that. I was literally thinking the same thing after watching his post match interview. Klopp is emotional and if we win the quadruple, best believe he is saying something, and I don’t blame him. I mean, what can they do to him? He won’t be coming back to the league. What I loved about the post match interview was how happy he was. He literally ran through the team and spoke on each player with so much passion and pride. We are going to miss him that’s for sure.

6.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 16:48:01
What can they do. have you not been following this season at all?

VAR will review his comments, retract his own resignation, fine him and the club, dock points from the club and have us relegated.

????.

7.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 18:17:04
Did anyone see ref watch ???
Dermot saying the var backed up the ref with his decision . I genuinely believe things like this are half the reason he’s had enough and who can blame him . It’s a new rule or a new interpretation of an age old simple rule to either absolve the ref of any blame or find an explanation of a poor decision. It’s tiresome now and ruining the game . Not just from a Liverpool view point but a football view point all you ask for is consistency and I must say this season has to be the most inconsistent ever .

8.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 18:33:50
VAR needs to be taken away from referees. They should have strict processes and controls that they follow every time there are the following situations a) contentious challenges in the box b) a handball in the box c) offside d) lunge tackles e) raised arms/ headbutts and f) simulation.

The VAR then has the power to halt the game and bring it back if the checks of the above result in something the referee has missed. As in rugby, with the use of specialist VAR operatives and NOT a referee these checks would be over in seconds.

It really isn’t rocket science, I cannot believe how we are being dumbed down and fobbed off with this “clear and obvious”, subjective/ objective BS so that referees can get another bumper payday while failing to follow the laws of the game.

9.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 18:52:47
It’s a penalty against every team in world football apart from Manchester City.
I don’t even believe it’s an anti-Liverpool decision, it’s just because it’s Man City. Reminds me of the Rodri handball vs Everton which won them the title also.

10.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 18:59:57
"I cannot believe how we are being dumbed down and fobbed off with this “clear and obvious”, subjective/ objective BS so that referees can get another bumper payday while failing to follow the laws of the game. "


We're being gas-lit, bro. Straight up. Clear and obvious? Absolute pixie dust. You have Dermott Gallagher doing his usual cleanup duty after the fact and he keeps saying Doku got the ball first. Here, Dermott is lying thru his teeth and spreading disinformation and propaganda.

Why? There is literally a rule governing the specific scenario on the PL books which says that getting the ball does NOT matter. Yet Gallagher (who knows this), keeps lying and saying as long as Doku got the ball (which he didn't), it wasn't a pen. The pundits at Sky, BT and MOTD are on the take as well with Carra the chief spreader of this type of gas-lighting cos well, he is an LFC fan so he can't be biased against his own team, right?

{Ed025's Note - you have to let it go now Oli, i know you think you were wronged mate but its not going to get changed anytime soon, dont let it eat at you because these things happen and always will..

11.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 19:13:55
Liverpool have had one penalty given against them this season in the PL while gaining eight penalties.

Man City have had three penalties given against them this season in the PL while gaining five penalties.

How’s that for the conspiracy theorists?

{Ed025's Note - you do know that that is ruining the narrative Irish, how are people supposed to think you dont get picked on coming out with information like this mate.. :)

12.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 19:32:51
I swear I watched hermit Gallagher say the better or easier decision is to give a penalty there. He’s explaining the process and also how it played out. I not just to stand there and bash every referee decision he believes is wrong. The insight he provides is valuable because, if fans are listening, it points to the flaw in the process.

I heard Derm say that Michael Oliver said he is sure Doku got the ball first then VAR reviews and sees Doku get the ball first. The flaw there seems to be similar to when they totally missed Pickford assasinating VVD because they were focused on the offside they didn’t look at the whole picture.

Oli - I get the passion mate but I don’t see a conspiracy here or anywhere in general. I think the system is flawed and it’s run by idiots. Recipe for disaster

I also think we Liverpool fans need to check ourselves a bit. We’re sounding awfully mighty and righteous right now given how we’ve responded to other teams griefs with VAR.

{Ed025's Note - your last two sentences are very true Faith and very magnanimous of you i must say, no need to drag the past up with the Pickford assassination though mate, hes not Pol Pot, Idi Amin or prince Andrew, just a keeper who made a poor challenge a long time ago, sit yourself down with a bottle of Cruzcampo and a chocolate eclair and repeat after me..."Jordan is not the devil, he is just a keeper who made a challenge on a Dutch guy with very weak legs"...better?..

13.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 19:54:15
Irish that is a ridiculous stat mate I’m sorry.

It doesn’t matter how many penalties you’ve had for or against you it’s how many were the right decision!

Just throwing numbers about without any kind of a back story is just lazy and misleading.

14.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 19:18:00
Watched the blues v man u the second pen they looked at off side with var no off side but did not put the lines up on screen i have noticed several times when man u played this happened?

Onana was tackled on his ankle he grabed his head ref stopped the game so it was a mistake so why did var not tell the ref he is being conned which happens in most games every week.

15.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 20:32:29
25 - haha that's fair mate. but that was the easiest example I could think of where the PGMOL also acknowledged that they were so focused on one aspect of the decision that they didn't see the whole picture. That's the analogy I was making.

{Ed025's Note - i know that faith but sometimes i have to lighten the mood a bit mate, it gets too serious on here at times..

16.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 21:42:04
Call it what you want BP but Liverpool are top of the penalties given and bottom of the penalties conceded. To the man on the street it certainly looks like there is no conspiracy against Liverpool whatsoever but what ever gets you off is fine by me ?.

17.) 11 Mar 2024
11 Mar 2024 21:43:45
@Ed25 No, You let it go. Im sick of being gas-lit.

@Faith, again I did not mention conspiracy. And please, try to read my posts carefully cos all Im doing is describing people's acts and and their deed using their own words and the actual laws that the precisous PL and PGMOL created. That's all Im doing and nothing else.

Was Mike Dean who said Oliver would go to the monitor in real time and then, back-tracked when Oliver stuck to his decision a conspiracy or did that really happen? Also, I do not need Gallagher to gas light me about anything. I know what football rules are and per this situation, the rule is clear (getting the ball does NOT matter) so what do I need him for if he is going to lie to me saying getting the ball is the reason the pen was not given? If you can't recognise blatant lies being told to you in the name of "valuable insight" then, that's on you.

{Ed025's Note - calm down Oli mate, you think you have been wronged mate and i get that, but in the end its just a decision in a game of football that you dont agree with, it happens most weeks and to lots of teams so i wouldn,t let it get you upset..

18.) 12 Mar 2024
12 Mar 2024 04:09:16
It is tiresome though ED to see City continually get these decisions in their favor, decisions which alter were the points go at end of the match. I can understand genuinely tough decisions going either one way or the other, but a studs up, chest high tackle is not rocket science to call correctly. They have either bottled it, or something foul is afoot, but you cannot deny that City seem to get a lot of this game-changing decisions when they need them. This season has been farcical but bad decisions and pitiful excuses from officials as to their justifications. It’s not just bad for Liverpool, it is bad for football, and if we don’t kick up a fuss about it then it will continue.

{Ed025's Note - i am a firm believer that there is corruption in football Seano but i dont think this incident is part of that, it was a contentious incident that Liverpool supporters think was wrong but a lot of others think was right, personally i would have liked Macca to come out and show the scars where he was almost cut in half by Doku but thats not happening any time soon, i dont think he touched him myself and it was a bit of gamesmanship on his behalf but maybe its the intent thats the issue here?, i think that with it being so late in the game which is the biggest in football that the referee hesitated a bit but it was not the worst incident this weekend i would say, the refereeing and VAR,s part in that has been terrible for years and every team gets bad decisions against them (see Wolves), yes we should all complain about the standard but i dont think this one is the catalyst that they should be judged on, but i suppose its all about opinions mate..

19.) 12 Mar 2024
12 Mar 2024 16:33:21
Very true Ed25.

There is corruption in football, there’s just too much money in the ‘game’ these days.

But, every decision that goes against us these days is often over ‘thought’ (for want of a better word) and generally ends up as being part of the great conspiracy when the decisions made on the pitch just range from ineptitude or genuine mistakes to, God forbid, actually being correct.

Odd that the contentious ones we are given, generally speaking, don’t get put under anywhere near the same scrutiny.

{Ed025's Note - its the same with every team i think WDW, ones that go for you are stonewall certs, those against are incompetence or blatant cheating mate, i think overall they even themselves out in a season but im sure not many think thats the case..