25 Jun 2024 18:40:57
It looks like VVD will come home early. Absolutely shambolic defending. Playing everyone on side for that third goal.

1.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 18:54:36
What an utterly rubbish player! Sell immediately!

Methinks some posters just really get a dopamine rush from sticking it to our players.

2.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 18:58:16
Just saw that. He was extremely deep!

3.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:13:22
Imagine the disappointment to find out you’ve finished third to the elation that you will possibly play England in the next round.

4.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:19:46
I swear some people are desperate to criticize our own players.

5.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:25:56
I am sorry but what part of my post triggered your little ego @Patrik?
Watch that third goal again. He could see all his teammates two yards infront of him and yet stayed deep. He is 34 and doesn’t possess the blistering pace anymore. We will sell him at some point. You going to revolt then pal?

6.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:28:10
I think there's no option but to terminate the contracts of the entire first team. I'm pretty sure all of them have been deemed useless or past it by a boffin here at this point.

{Ed025's Note - im the only one who sticks up for them SR.. :)

7.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:39:24
Actually Jaguar, I think you will find that he is in fact 32 years old. I think you simply rushed to your computer to bash Virgil when he made that boo-boo. He didn't have the best of games and he should be holding the line and directing his fellow defenders better, but I'm not sure what gratification you get from running to your keyboard to say how bad he was? That's what I'm talking about. Also, you should know that Holland already went through to the next round before the game even started.

8.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:52:34
It does amuse me that on a rumors site, we have one side coddling 'their players', protecting them from the devastation and hardships of the world. And, on the other, we have people ready to bear arms and assault the players at a seconds notice, should they ever meet.

I honestly see no issue with criticizing players, or defending them, but a lot of posters take this so darn personally. Like, relax, it's a rumors site, not the gates to heaven.

Like, what did you expect on a rumors site, open for public usage? For everyone to conform to your opinion, for it to be the universal truth, and that anyone that says otherwise is a heathen.

Then again I'm the guy that smashed my PS5 controller against a wall yesterday, when I died to a boss for the 30th time. So, who am I to judge?

{Ed025's Note - I think you are spot on MANGO. And a bit of a hooligan it seems ?..

9.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:57:39
Could be England Netherlands this weekend. Don't fancy England at all.

{Ed025's Note - I think we will whack them RF. people from Holland know sod all about football mate .. ?

10.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 19:58:11
He just turn 33 Harold.

11.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 20:13:02
Personally i only have any interest in the matches with L'pool players in them, and tune in hoping they do well. Mistake outa virg for the 3rd but been very good overall and Gakpo's banging them in from the left. Seen as trents been scapegoated i hope holland crucify england if they meet.

12.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 20:25:08
@Patrik. Apparently, I didn’t knew the rules of this page mate lol. Are we not supposed to say when a player is performing bad ?.
Honestly VVD has had a terrible Euros so far and I honestly don’t know how to say this lol.

13.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 20:52:02
England v Holland.

The battle of two good teams managed by circus clowns.

14.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 21:01:16
It’s more the exaggerated hyperbole MANGO. I’m all for criticising players and performances. But balance is important. As is perspective.

15.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 21:34:03
Goals were not VVD fault though, you can blame him for not organizing the defence better and fire up his team mates like Henderson/ Milner. Thankfully I am not from Holland but from the south east of The Netherlands :-) so I do not feel offended that I know sod all about football ;-)
By the way, following this site for about 5-10 years, and my first post now! Liverpool fan since April 1989 . and looking forward to Slot as coach although I do not follow much Dutch football really.
England vs The Netherlands would be great. But . you play worse than us, at least the Dutch scored 2 today!

16.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 21:41:43
typo, fan since 1979.

17.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 22:31:27
@MK, can you exaggerate hyperbole? Isn’t hyperbole itself an exaggeration? Asking in the spirit of this being the banter page ?

@Jaguar, I think there is a feeling that the person providing an opinion that is negative is sometimes seen as a person who has never made a mistake themselves, and but for the grace of God would be out at the Euros, in this case, playing CB for the Dutch. In this case I suspect VVD is aware and is obviously better than this mistake.

On a different note, the Denmark vs Serbia game was woeful.

18.) 25 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 23:38:08
@MANGO, I take it the Elden Ring DLC isn't going well?

19.) 26 Jun 2024
25 Jun 2024 23:58:28
Mango - what killed you 30 times? You on a soulsborne?

20.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 02:00:16
Yes, fair to say the Elden Ring DLC is kicking my ass, in a major way.

Took me 2 hours to defeat Rellana Twin Moon Knight, I celebrate, leave the area and a massive Fire Giant thing greets me off in the distance, fair to say I sprinted back inside to a place of safety without a moments delay.

Having a blast though.

21.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 02:43:19
Critiquing the things a player does is totally fine. It goes overboard when people use said critique to then label the player (multiple trophy winner ) terrible. By no measure is he terrible, he just made a mistake.

22.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 07:15:46
I have no issue with people criticising players mango, I just find it interesting that folks seem to almost enjoy our players not doing well so they can post about it without at the same time taking into account what the larger circumstances are, virgil made a mistake yesterday but he was actually far from the worst defender for the Netherlands yesterday, geertruida wasn’t good either and de vrij was even worse. sure Virgil is their leader but the way Koeman has the team set up is failing every player on the pitch, to say Virgil was awful yesterday and having an awful tournament in general…by what standards are you evaluating that?

23.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 06:47:01
Feel like people have found a way WDW. Hyperbole would be saying “he’s a bad player” knowing full well you don’t get to the Prem if you are a bad player, and that is fine because it’s almost a throwaway comment and not really intended to be taken literally, but to be taken in the context of the debate.

However there seems to be a growing trend to go over the top even with the hyperbole and saying thinks like “he can’t defend” or “there is no position in football for him” or “he’s absolutely terrible”. Blah blah blah. Hyperbole is fine within reason to emphasise your point, but at a certain point it just comes off as nonsense. Maybe exaggerated is the wrong word, because you’re right, hyperbole is exaggeration by definition anyway. Maybe extreme hyperbole is what I should’ve said!

Either way, it’s much easier to take someone seriously if they break down a balanced argument. It comes across as a lack of intelligence when people drop a one liner calling someone awful without justification or caveating what you don’t like about them with what they do well at least. Just a bit of balance and perspective. I criticise players myself. I’m probably Gomez’s biggest detractor. But I still was quick to point out that his attitude is good, his versatility is useful, and I think he’s a decent enough back up right back for us.

People can say what they want at the end of the day. They just won’t be taken seriously if it’s constant over the top negativity. And that’s a shame because they probably could add some really interesting debate to the page if they expanded a bit on their negativity. We need different opinions to make the site worth visiting.

24.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 08:15:22
A defender who rarely puts a foot wrong has a bad day at the office. Nothing to see here.

25.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 09:21:25
It’s just the age we live in, mk. Somehow people think it’s okay to call players that play for opposing teams or even our own team rubbish, trash, deadwood and other such terms, given that they are garbage they are so subhumanly bad that they don’t deserve respect and denunciation of them doesn’t require qualification. Football is a consumer product and people just want instant customer satisfaction, all the human beings running around simply exist for your approbation, when they have outworn their purpose you can simply throw them away. Nuance or context isn’t necessary and counts for nothing besides the small hit of a rush you get for giving vent to hyperbole and getting a few likes in return.

26.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 09:51:48
Sadly PB, I think you nailed it. So much online nowadays is done or said for attention and validation in the form of likes.

27.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 11:36:05
As a person who has worked professionally with sportsmen and women of all types including footballers I can tell you they do read what people write, especially the younger ones.

So you have to ask as a fan, is it really helpful to destroy their confidence with badly or unarticulated insults? If you state for example, player x should have maybe done Z that is a perfectly fine way to critique, it's helpful. Saying he is rubbish, deadwood etc is literally the most unhelpful thing you can post and only does damage.

28.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 12:16:28
Spot on, MKS and PB. It's the age we live in. Some people have their flags firmly planted into the ground on the way they feel about certain player in mostly a negative fashion that it does not matter what they do, they can never do anything right in their eyes. Guys like Elliott, Darwin specifically suffer from this.

At the end of the day, if you continue to slag these players (cos yeah, doing that and destroying their confidence will definitely make them do better) at every turn, my next question to such people is, "Who do you love at the end of the day? Seriously, who do you love if all these players are trash?

29.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 13:20:42
Thank you for that insight Nevada. I don’t know why people pretend that in this age of technology the pro’s won’t see the lashings dished out online. You are spot on about constructive criticism but it’s getting to be closer to abuse than that, to be honest. If you search for “Liverpool runours” online this is one of the first that pops up. So it’d be very naive to think that none of our players have ever visited this site. I’d not be at all shocked if some a regularly reading it. And they will definitely be seeing the stuff posted on twitter and Facebook pages because that goes viral and everyone on the platform that the algorithm wants to will see it.

30.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 13:42:10
Im so confused as to the reaction to Jaguars original post.

Patrik, thunderbird etc. have wildly overreacted to what he said. He never said anything about selling him or he's not good enough or he's past it.

He simply just stated an observation, one of which was very true. For the 3rd goal, Van Dijk was shambolic, especially for a player of his quality and being the captain.

Does't mean to say he's not great or he doesn't love him as a player but players can mess up, it happens and Van Dijk did last night.

31.) 26 Jun 2024
26 Jun 2024 17:16:14
Disagree Gunn.

“It looks like VVD will come home early”

This comes across to me as somebody that can’t wait to get online and have a pop at one of our players after a mistake.

Why are some “fans” so desperate for our players to fail?!

32.) 27 Jun 2024
27 Jun 2024 11:34:19
I see how you have interpreted that Navy, I don't agree but then I'm not one who goes online and lambastes or overly defends players, so not my world really.

I just support the players and very rarely get involved in these types of discussions, but I just thought Jaguar was getting unfairly hounded to be honest mate.

33.) 27 Jun 2024
27 Jun 2024 19:20:55
Anybody with eyes can see what Virgil did, even the commentators pointed it out during the game. What’s the point of running to the computer to make a point of it and say how poor it was, unless maybe you are invested in the Netherlands winning/ you support them and are upset that he had a lapse in judgment? It is my even constructive criticism or an astute observation, considering almost every stream and replay I saw of the game mentioned it, it’s simply a Nelson muntz type ha ha at Virgil dropping the ball, pure schadenfreude.

Call me skeptical if you want, that’s how I see it unless I am proven otherwise, not sure what the OP was expecting in response other than simply likes or others saying ‘Virgil isn’t the player he was…he’s been poor for ages…he’s been rubbish for Holland…. he’s starting to become a liability…he’s not as good as he thinks, he needs to wake up…schoolboy defending, wish we had rudiger, bastoni or saliba in Liverpool instead’ or something along those lines.