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30 May 2017 10:20:11
Hi Ed001

I saw you in the Arsenal page explaining the difference between a manager and a coach in relation to Wenger's role at Arsenal.

If managers don't actually coach the players during the week at training, then what does their interaction with the players actually entail? Obviously on game day they directly engage with the players giving them instructions and psychological preparation before the game, but what do they do with the players during the week?

I've also noticed in various photos that Klopp is very involved with training sessions. Is he a manager *and* a coach?


{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the manager. Klopp, by the way, is a Head Coach. Different managers have different inputs. Some will oversee training every day, others will leave that to coaches and deal solely with the tactical side of things and see their players after training when the team eats together, plus during team meetings., get togethers etc. Keegan, for example, would be too busy playing training matches with the team to actually coach, while someone like Paisley was, according to a lot of his players, busy reading the Racing Post while training was taking place. Though he would often watch it from the window of his portacabin.

There is no one size fits all answer, as every single person is different. Usually the manager will give instructions to the coaching staff as to what formation he is looking to play in the next game and the coaches will come up with the training plans. Some managers will want to see the training plans and suggest tweaks, others will delegate that entirely. Ferguson was very happy to delegate, not out of laziness but because of time restraints. He brought in people he could trust to coach, so he could use his time to study opponents and look for weaknesses in their play, watch future signing targets etc. Modern day managers have a lot of that taken out of their hands to a large degree. They have a department to look at future opponents and scout the players too.

Most clubs are making it clearer as to the distinctions between roles by moving to a Head Coach/Director of Football (under various names) model. That is pretty much how most football clubs in England operated anyway, it was just that the manager tried to fill both roles in theory, but in practice one role was delegated, sometimes both roles ended up being partially delegated depending on time.}

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30 May 2017 03:49:22
Hi eds, who are our targets for left back and left wing?

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29 may 2017 09:50:34
are lfc again shopping at aldi and hoping to stumble on a bargain?

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29 May 2017 10:14:32
You mean like Couts 😉.

29 May 2017 15:04:58
But for every Coutinho we could name 8 poor cheap signings we've made.

29 May 2017 15:47:04
So could pretty much every club in world football JK.

29 May 2017 22:37:42
That's very true Pipsscreamer but not every club in world football would sell Suarez and replace him with Rickie Lambert.

30 May 2017 06:28:32
Actually we panicked and replaced him with a gamble on Balotelli because we couldn't get our main targets, then spent s fortune on Benteke.

This club has also spent on Firmino, Mane, Wijnaldum and plenty of others so while we may not be paying up like City and Man utd I think it's it's bit ridiculous to say we shop in Aldi and only look for bargains.

30 May 2017 08:02:14
To be fair lads, we've finished 4th after apparently shopping in Aldi.

By my reckoning, we don't need to shop in Waitrose and might get away with Sainsbury's to win the title 😏.

29 May 2017 01:38:44
Just watched some naby clips. Yes YouTube I know but. . . . . .

From what I saw he's exactly what we need.

Seems to have a mixture of some of our greats in him. Range of passing and vision like Alonzo or Stevie g.
Not afraid of a first time volley.
He pulls defenders out of position.
The engine of dirk kuyt. Good set piece delivery and long range shots.

He looks really happy in his work. And seems to have the tenacious make your own luck of count Suarez.

As I say though it is YouTube research but I would not be upset if we spunked 50 mil on the lad. Reckon he could have a bigger effect than mane
And look what happened when Chelsea bought a solid versatile midfielder in kante.

Looks the real deal to me sports fans.
Anyone seen him play regularly?

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29 May 2017 15:33:04
watched 10 games in bundesliga. he is classy player, his passing and vison are awesome and isn't afraid to go for a forward pass behind the defence. with smart movement of firmino and mane guy could be lethal. has a good legs for pressing and is himself resistant on counter press as he finds quick solution. i think he would be very useful in our system and would be a starter esp with Hendo injured regulary. can keita and lallana could be powerful and creative midfield, with fit hendo, gini and grujic finally some depth in midfield. we will have so much games next season hopefuly.

29 May 2017 22:21:34
Only Youtube mate. Only thing I noticed which you didn't pick up on was that he can go on runs almost as mazey as John Barnes! Incredible how complete he appears to be. I read earlier though that he concedes a lot of fouls and loses three quarters of his aerial duels, but hey; even female fantasies like Beckham get cursed with the voice of a small boy just to make them human.

29 May 2017 22:41:07
Get out of here, Barnes controlled the ball like it was glued to his boot, Keita makes up for poor control by his speed and long stride length.
Sorry, I don't think he's such an amazing player and would be found out in this league. What has he got on Wijnaldum?

29 May 2017 22:47:14
Lol. Thanks guys. Exciting prospect I guess.

28 May 2017 23:33:39
All i want for mt july christmas is


Pereria matip lovren milner
Lallana coutinho
Auba firmino.

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28 May 2017 22:30:19
Eds I've used the search function but nothing came up surprisingly.
Have we scouted Allan Saint Maximin from Bastia at all? Can play from the right or the left and seems to go past players with ease.

{Ed007's Note - Who watched the French Under 20's World Cup match then?}

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28 May 2017 19:23:52
VVD imo is the player we need.
The defense has been our achilles heel and his signature would mean a title challenge.
Fingers crossed.

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28 May 2017 22:03:55
Except the actual defendin part of his game leaves a lot to be desired. Plus he would cost a fee that he ain't worth. Avoid imo.

29 May 2017 00:02:18
Just a personal opinion but I don't think it matters who we sign, our defence isn't going to be great until our defensive coaches get their arses into gear.

{Ed007's Note - What kind of gear, basques and sussies?}

28 May 2017 11:11:12

Morning eds and reds, Reading a lot about sterling and I think the easiest way of putting it is could have been great, lacked the desire and hard work to rise to the next level. We got what we got for him because nearly any player in the world playing in a front three along side suarez ad a completely fit sturridge is always going to look a lot better than they actually are.

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28 May 2017 11:36:47

We got what we got for him because heis young and English.

Sterling believed all the hype about himself and though he had achieved everything already.

28 May 2017 11:58:52

Lack of guidance. I hate to admit it, but we probably needed a stronger Character in the dressing room. Gerrard had already left the club earlier that summer. Otherwise he probably would've talked to Sterling like he did with Suarez and bought us another season of his career.

I know people keep slating Sterling and don't get me wrong he has not been a £50m player, but in this season despite a bit part role he has 10 goals and 21 assists across all competitions.

He is still a good player, he is only judged so harshly because he hasn't improved enough or as expected. At 20 he was a key player for us and now 2 years on he is being replaced by City. He is still scoring and creating goals at a rate no individual in our team except Mane and Coutinho can compete with.

28 May 2017 12:05:31

Can understand people calling him over hyped but to be fair he works unbelievably hard on the pitch. I think it's more to do with he's natural ability and striking of the ball is just poor.

28 May 2017 12:36:18

So are people already writing Sterling off?

If so, I'm a little confused. It feels like since City bought Bernardo Silva, everyone has written Sterling's career off and is saying he was never even that good. I think it's a little unfair. He's only 22. He was a good player for us and I actually think he's been quite good for City. He's also had some very poor performances, but young players tend to be inconsistent. I still think he has a good career ahead of him at City and expect him to improve.

He's the same age as Origi, is a more developed player and yet most people seem to think Origi needs time to develop, yet at the same age, Sterling's career is already over?

28 May 2017 12:42:33

I thought you had him down as the next Shaun Wright Phillips yesterday MK?

28 May 2017 12:52:19

Nice fair comment mk.

There are some bitter people on here.

28 May 2017 14:37:52

Nothing about being bitter Davey, if a player doesn't want to be at the club then so be it.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to see coutinho leave this summer.

What we got for sterling was a cracking deal.

28 May 2017 15:12:55

Lacked the skill to be any betyer than he is.

Just a fast young english player.

28 May 2017 15:52:19

Think you have misunderstood my post yesterday Rover. I meant I felt sorry for him because he is in a similar situation to what Wright Phillips found himself in. My comparison was not because he has a lack of ability, but because he is going to end up stagnating as he watches 30 games a season from the bench.

At no point yesterday did I say he was a bad player. If anybody took that from my post, they have completely missed my point. I feel sorry for him because he is too good to be a bit part player and if he had been advised properly, he would be a key player at our club right now. I thought I made that clear, but just to reiterate, I do not think Sterling is a bad player. I just think he has failed to live up to his potential. Plenty of very good players can have the same accusation levelled at them though. Failing to reach your potential does not make you a bad player in every case.

Gerrard and Lampard debate is a good example. Gerrard was a supreme talent who never played to his best consistently. Lampard was a run of the mill talent as a kid who got the absolute most out of his abilities. Gerrard still had a pretty fantastic career though. Sterling could too if he took his eyes off of the green in his wallet, and focused on getting back on the green that is the pitch.

28 May 2017 16:29:21

Nobody has written him off but the fact silva has been bought shows he has stagnated and not improved. He still has a career but maybe not at city unless he is happy spending time on the bench. Bringing origi into this is nugatory, this has nothing to do with him. Different players develop at different speeds and origi has been asked to play a slightly different way this season and he will have benefited and learned from the experience.

28 May 2017 16:11:29

DMK, you make some valid points but you seem to be forgetting a lot of things Sterling was doing wrong while he was here. He was indeed very good, playing in a team that was really working well together so that helps your confidence. When Suarez left and Studge was out, BR put too much pressure on him and he was not ready to take that on. His agent got into his head and so did the hype and BR's nonsensical comments about the contract and that was it. He was never the finished article and frankly, he has not improved since he left us cos he still is poor in front of goal, just like he was here. This is why Pep has replaced him with Silva and Sterling is not in Sane's league. This is not about being bitter (nonsensical comment by Davey) . It is just appoint of view you can agree with or not. As for your comment that Sterling was scoring and creating goals for City more than anyone in our team apart from Mane and Couts is just wrong. We are a much better team with out him ( Wij has 6 and 10 assists, Lallana has 8 goals 7 assists) now and he wouldn't make our staring 11 right now so there you go.

27 May 2017 14:52:34


Has Aubameyang notified Dortmund he wants to leave this summer and are we seriously considering him? Surely too good to be true. Thanks.

p. s. would be much appreciated if they could throw in pulisic as well. thanks dortmund.

{Ed002's Note - There is interest in him from China, Manchester City and his agent has already reached agreement with PSG. He will be moving this summer.}

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27 May 2017 17:18:13

Any chance we dive into the mix?

{Ed002's Note - His haircut is stupid enough for Liverpool.}

27 May 2017 17:27:11

Ed2, to ensure that you don't have to field these questions for the rest of the summer, what hair cut do you suggest is sensible?

Only kidding, can you confirm that we can't afford Aubameyang so every Tom, Dick and (especially) Harry isn't asking you constantly.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not made any efforts to declare an interest in him Nick.}

27 May 2017 17:39:31

Thanks for the reply Ed.

27 May 2017 18:03:18

Ed 2, I believe that you have hair envy.

I have heard that you go to the barber's and ask for a one on the top, and a three on the back and sides.

Either that or its a short back and comb over.

Cheer up, you can always do a Rooney and use your armpit hair, and have your head looking like a used brillo pad!

{Ed002's Note - I have the inverted mohican Davey.}

27 May 2017 18:59:52

We want Klopp to find and develop the next aubameyang.

27 May 2017 22:51:32

No we dont. As city, chelsea, united won't be waiting 3 years for said player to develop they will bring them in to play now.

Can, origi, moreno, ilori, karius, ibe, markovic are somw of the young players who still haven't produced the qualoty we need some with us for 3 years.

Mane. One season BANG!

Aubamayang all day sodding long.

28 May 2017 09:08:51

We can't just go around signing every 50-60-70 million pound player that wants 1/ 4 of a mil per week to play for us. There is a sustainable business model at Liverpool that is working. We do not have billions and billions in oil money to throw around and I for one like it this way. It is better to build a cohesive unit of dedicated and like-minded players than to blow massive wads on established 'world-class' players. Why do City even need Aubameyang unless Aguero is leaving? And why do they need another Silva?

28 May 2017 11:29:44

Mane engage the brain before you write. LFC won't go and spend 85 million on a forward.

When Klopp took him to Dortmund he was a hit straight away no 3 year wait so again a little research goes along way.

There are plenty of players out there who are ready to come and perform with the right setup and scouting. Suarez is the prime example scoring in holland and cost sub 30 million.

28 May 2017 11:44:16

We surely can't be after Brandt with such a sensible haircut. He will never fit in.

28 May 2017 13:00:01

I read that Klopp stated he has no interest in signing players he has worked with previously. No Lewindowski, no Reus and no Aubammer.

28 May 2017 15:33:30

He definatly wasnt.

He was most certaintly part of the relegation station team. He took 2 years to produce and thay was when he was moved from the right to up top after lewon left. Do you research.

Liverpool commited 70 million in transfer fees last year.

One 50 million pound player is 150% than 4 ok ones.

Aubayang improves us second to none! Better than the rest of the potentials!

28 May 2017 15:52:37
I'll sweeten up my points as my other posts weren't allowed through through me being rude, which i apologise for.

This is about the we don't need auba arhument.

1/ most of Liverpool's success has come with a high scoring striker. Rush, god, suarez, torres, dalglish, keegan, owen, aldridge.

2/ we don't want to be reliant on one player but "firmino is key to our pressing system" so if he does his acl opening game. we can right the season off?

3/ bernardo silva is a quality player and you find a way to get quality in your team. said when posters are question wether he suited our pressing style.

4/ chelsea costa 20 and hazard 16
Tottenham kane 29 and ali 19
City aguero 20 jesus 7
Liverpool firmino 11 mane 13 and coutinho 14. (outstanding returns from all, not firmino simply because he was a number 9 and not a 10)

5/ kane 29, costa 20, lukaku 25, sanchez 24, hazard 16, ali 19, aguero 20, ibrahimovic 17, joshua king 16, benteke 15, llorente 15, son 14, coutinho 14, mane 13, vardy 12, giroud 14, defoe 15. then firmino (11)

6/ europe league winners top 8 league.

Ronaldo 24 real madrid winners
Higuain 24 juventus winners
Lewondowski 30 munich winners
Falcao 21 monaco winners
Costa 20 chelsea winners

Exceptions benfica 16, shaktar donesk 13, krasnodar 18.

All more thab firmino.

Aubamayang 31 goals.

Are we seriously discussing wether he would improve us.

Just to clarify psg are signing him not us but cavani got 35 goals. and they are still signing another top striker

7/ we didn't press since January. Apart from the west ham game. First half of the season wouldn't change a thing. Those 3 months when firmino didn't score or the 9 game winless run wbere we went out of all cips and blew a high league finish i would.

8/ finished 2nd wouldn't be any different, well guaranteed champions league, tottenham wouldn't of had a different season so we would of got to at least 87 points, wouls be primes tuned for a title challenge. As is we are 20 points behind Chelsea with other teams including city (who have more attacking mids than us, signing another top one) but we want klopp to find the next auba in the hope they we can rub it in fans faces when we win the league with him and can say "we didn't buy the league". Why not buy the actually auba now and save they 3 year wait for said player to come good and challenge for the league now?

Finally firmino would still be in the team and can do all the great things he does with the less pressure or having to be our main scorer. which he is if he plays up top.

If we signed him as a striker then you wouldn't be happy with his goal returns, as is he was signed as a 10 who is playing sort of "out of position" and does great for us.

Where was the press since January? What teams sat deep so we could press. So why do we need a pressing striker?

All i want in response apart from ed because his opinion is what makes this site great but just for my point.

YES we should sign him simply for his quality. Quality will find a way.

No because were good enough with firmino and don't need auba, as the press is more important than his goals (even though klopp will probably get pressing out of auba)

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28 May 2017 16:09:17
Agree about looking to target the league now than wait for one of our young guns to become the next Lewandowski or Aubameyang. If the money is there, I would like LFC to make a change to their transfer approach and actually try for Aubameyang. He could be the difference between a top4 finish and a BPL title win.

28 May 2017 18:30:20
He's going to PSG.


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