14 Nov 2016 17:04:30
Anyone's thoughts on the team for Southampton. I just can't see Coutinho and Firmino featuring. Brazil play in Peru on Wednesday. Then the long flights home. So no matter how fit you are, those flights are energy sapping.
Does anyone think they'll be involved on Saturday.
Gonna be a tough game, but hopefully we'll have enough to get the 3 points.

1.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 17:32:05
Yes I think both will play tbh. Do you ed?

{Ed001's Note - yes.}

2.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 17:42:47
If Firmino doesn`t play any part in Brazil`s game vs Peru, he will definitely play if not start. Couts may come on if he plays vs Peru.

3.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 18:44:15
Matip will start.

4.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 18:45:18
Never understood people who say a flight means a player can't play/ saps energy.
Do you know pilots and cabin crew can and do work 60 hours a week?

{Ed001's Note - different kind of thing. Pilots and cabin crew are not professional athletes expected to be at their physical peak.}

5.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 18:55:28
Flights can sap energy. Disrupts your sleep pattern, diet etc. Its not so easy to get back to your peak lifestyle immediately after. Does take a few days.

6.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 18:56:10
Even still ed, I can't see how it would matter much, or mean a player having to miss a game?

{Ed001's Note - I don't see how it is so difficult to understand how someone flying long hours is not going to be anywhere near peak physical capacity. This is an era of sports science, when those things matter.}

7.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 18:59:28
No idea who will start etc but if firmino and coutinho are rested can bring in sturridge, origi, or wijnaldum and rest both. Positive is have a good amount of depth in the squad.

8.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 19:51:25
Long flights can stress the body in some surprising ways. Google "Steve Waugh DVT".

9.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 20:12:07
Just my opinion, but if you are in your mid 20's, and you have had to sit (or sleep laying down! ) in a first class seat for 12 hours, and are a professional athlete, you should still be able to run around full pelt 3 days later. Obviously not an ideal training regime but come on, shouldn't be that difficult.

10.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 20:28:32
Nick, professional athletes have trained their bodies to the fullest, to the point that something that looks not that significant can affect them as their bodies have been trained to be at excellent peak condition to for maximum performance levels. It is not as cut and dry as many people think.

11.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 20:35:10
I am mid 20s, and in pretty good physical shape. (albeit nothing compared to top professional footballers) however i flew from south america to paris just over a month ago in a 9 hour flight and it killed me for nearly a whole week, it totally screws over your body clock and sleeping pattern, and no matter if you try to sleep on a plane, it will always be broken sleep, same goes for footballers. It does zap energy from you, I can't imagine having to go straight into training the next day and then play a very physical game of football a few days later against top top professionals, it is both physically and mentally very draining to do that. As long as both come back injury free then that is all that matters. can't wait for PL football to return. YNWA.

12.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 19:16:17
Maybe it's just me ed. Lol
I hear people moaning all the time about jet lag after a flight from Spain or somewhere when I have just done 20 of them flights in 6 days. Haha
While I'm on the subject ed, I always have liverpool/ Everton/ United/ city etc players on my flights between games going home to various parts of the continent, some players always seem to be on, do clubs restrict how many times a player flies home? I don't think flying short haul makes any difference to fitness levels myself but the times of flights could do, I have seen players play on TV late sometimes then see them on a 5am flight the next day.

{Ed002's Note - Players would need to request anything more than a day or two off and clubs would be fussy if it was being abused. But if visiting friends of family on a day off as opposed to a rest day doesn't bother clubs.

However, players are expected to act responsibly.}

13.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 22:15:00
They should get these lads a "human charger". I wonder if ed002 has one? Wonderful for jet lag. 👌.

14.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 23:16:51
Or a Jet Wag.
To help them recover of course.

{Ed002's Note - The players are returning with a couple of others (Willian is one) via a chartered flight.}

15.) 14 Nov 2016
14 Nov 2016 23:34:48
Have some of you guys ever been on a long-haul flight before? It is bloody disgusting. Not only is it bad for sleep patterns, but sitting on your arse for so many hours is not that good for you either, especially for athletes who need to be in prime condition. A private jet with reduced noise and comfortable seating for sitting *and* lying down is what they desperately need.

{Ed002's Note - Typically smaller aircraft are not quieter.}

16.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 04:19:02
Oh dear - young people are so soft these days. They all need to harden up a bit if you ask me. I understand the concept of sports science but it goes too far sometimes. No wonder these players have no real future outside of the game - the real world chews them up and spits them out - delicate little petals that they are!

{Ed001's Note - it has got nothing to do with being soft, it has everything to do with the level the opposition are performing at. You can't get away with being drunk or off the pace, like in the past, as the opposition are too well prepared. The real world does not chew them up and spit them out either, no idea where you got that stupid idea from.}

17.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 04:24:41
I wonder how many days in advance did they fly to Peru, to be able to play for Brazil.

18.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 06:24:27
City, Chelsea and Liverpool football club will share a common private jet to fly their players immediately after the internationals.

19.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 11:38:52
Jet lag isn't a condition pertaining to being tired from a flight, it's the body's internal clock struggling to adapt to a new time zone. There's only a 5 hour time difference with us and Peru, which isn't terrible but it does mean they're playing at 02:15 uk time. I don't care who you are, that's going to screw up your sleep pattern for a few days. Then there is the issue of what happens to your body on a long journey which everyone knows takes a day or so in its self to shrug off. Anyone complaining of jet lag from Spain is talking crap, they might be tired if they fly at night but it's not jet lag it's just the same as having a late night so your tired.

20.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 15:52:17
I bet that Raymond verheijen will explain impact of jetlag if klopp starts any player who flew abroad this international break haha.

21.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 16:04:56
Not if you get a human charger.

22.) 15 Nov 2016
15 Nov 2016 19:06:10
What a joke. I am ex services yet we completed flights and expected to fight the enemy, and we had to be on top of your game and athlete fit. Do you think the enemy think to give you a rest because of jet lag?

{Ed001's Note - what has that got to do with anything? This is not a war, it is a game. We don't have cannon fodder that are expendable, they have to be in the side all season, so you take care of them.}