01 Jun 2017 23:33:41
i just don't understand vvd.

Loren and matip where solid last year apsrt from when injurys hit.

We need full backs. Why blow our load on him. When were alright there.

Just don't see us having much past vvd and salah that's potentially 80 mil.


1.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 00:06:03
We are clearly not alright there, because lovren looks like having that 1 massive mistake in him every game and a fair few will agree with me, Don't understand why we have given him a new contract to be honest?


2.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 00:28:33
Vvd is a good player but can be caught out of position. He could go on to be an excellent player for us and I hope he does sign. But should we also not be looking at our coaching staff in term of defence, we could sign all the talent in the world at the back but if they are not being coached correctly or learning the tactics the same mistakes will persist as the last few seasons. Look at what a difference the gk coaches have made to Migs since they have changed what they were doing.


3.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 00:55:15
VVD would be an excellent CB if he improved his concentration and put more effort on the pitch. His talent and athletic ability has never been in question. If the lad wants us over Chelsea and City however, then its probable that he will be willing to do what KLopp expects from him. If Klopp sorts VVD out, then we have one of the best CBs in the world at our disposal. If not then we will have blown 50 million quid. This deal could make or break Klopp's LFC tenure.


4.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 06:37:52
Lovren has a touch of "the Migs". He can look class for 2-3 games in a row then he manages to perform the most basic rudimentary error which costs us points.

He is not what I would term "solid". Matip started brilliantly but had similar "Mig moments". It was his first season so he's allowed a settling in period.
I'm not convinced about Van Dijk for £50-70 million.


5.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 08:09:08
Thing is Ron, who else is there we could go for? We definitely have an issue at centre back and I don't see that the answer is the likes of Gibson/ Keane/ Maguire as they're mid table players at best. To me VVD has proved himself capable for the last couple of seasons and he has pace, is dominant in the air and good on the ball.


6.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 08:23:07
Agree Ron,

Lovren struggles against pace when attackers run at him, far too often he was caught napping, with players easily getting goal side of him.

Matip lost a bit of confidence after his great start.

I also agree with Ed 1, the full backs are an issue and need to be addressed.


7.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 09:20:33
The comment that mentions the defensive coaching staff, What they are doing isn't working clearly like the goalkeeper coaching and they have mixed that up and now look at Mig! he's got much better.

Little tweek in the Defensive coaching needs to be done.


8.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 10:53:06
Lovren and Matip were hardly solid!

Lovren literally has a brain fart moment or two in every game and Matip looks to have a mistake in him too every now and then.

VVD has had moments where he looks lethargic or careless for Southampton but we have to trust Klopp that he knows what he's doing and that VVD will give us something we are missing at the back. Undoubtedly better LBs and RBs will help whoever plays at CD for us as Milner and Clyne have hardly given them much help defensively.

I think it's fair to say that most on here were pretty disillusioned with the signing of Wijnaldum last Summer as most thought he lacked fight and desire following s string of poor performances at Newcastle, and the same can be said of Mane with rumours of a poor attitude, but both have stepped up to the plate and improved their game and really added something to our team, and we have to have faith that whoever Klopp brings in, be it VVD, Salah, Clichy, Ox or Robertson that he knows what he's doing and will get them playing better than they have done for their respective clubs.


9.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 16:22:38
Supermane -what options do we go to if matip/ lovren partnership doesn't work or if they do work but one is injured all the time?


10.) 02 Jun 2017
02 Jun 2017 17:11:50
Who said this was our entire budget?

Owners got money to spend if the price is right.