29 Oct 2016 23:22:49
If you had to say 3 things about the game lads?

1) Karius is awful

2) Coutinho is so good

3) Think Klopp is slow to react from bench, I know we got away with it today and I may be wrong. But when palace were all over us we needed origi to come on and hold ball up so we could get out.

Just my thoughts, great win and we are looking really good and confidence is growing week by week.

1.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:26:25
Harsh on Karius, give him time. And with regards to #3 how about you manage Liverpool, you clearly know more then Klopp. Leave it out mate we're joint top.

2.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:33:43
So a 4-2 victory away from home against an opponent who has often caused us problems in the past and 2 out of your 3 take away points from the match are negatives?

3.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:00:01
karius hasn't played well, but he is certainly better than mignolet. his distribution is so much better, we just need to give him time.

4.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:01:01
1) everyone played well minus a few mishaps

2)finishing needs work, match could have been dead and buried. we seem to score the harder chances.

3)moreno was a surprise. he should start against teams that like to sit back more often. milner should play when we need more defensive stability against the better attacking sides.

5.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:30:30
1) Karius is young and adapting to the pace, power and pressure of the Premier League, give him time and definitely more time than 6 games, Lloris and De Gea also first struggled. Some people seem to have the patience of young kids on a long car ride.

6.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 01:41:45
You know nothing if you thought palace were ever going to trouble us. We were by far the better team and easily won. What more do you want klopp to do, win the world cup or is that too much.

7.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 02:09:04
Your post makes little sense and your first point must be a windup.

8.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 02:17:26
Our mediocre play in the middle of the second half had nothing to do with Origi and hold up play.

It had to do with a nervous and panicked back line, and a nervy Karius, that could not handle a modest high press by Palace.

Moreno, for example, gives far too much space defensively. Unlike Milner, who closes down attackers very quickly, Moreno today hung back constantly, and thus allowed far too many crosses in.

Now, blocking crosses is a luxury, but you should at least by hurrying the winger by closing them down quickly, forcing errors and badly placed crosses. I don't know how many beautiful crosses were put in from Moreno's side, but seemed like a lot -- including the goal.

Also, similar to United, Palace were using a high press to prevent us from playing from out the back. When we can do that, our attacking flow is far better. But, just like the United game, we didn't seem to properly adjust. Instead, we were forced, countless times, to put it back to Karius who blasts it up field. This disrupted the typical flow of our attack, and reduced the influence of Firmino/ Coutinho in midfield, who like to drop deep to transition balls from midfield quickly to attack.

I don't understand why we're not adjusting to that simple tactic. All it requires is for an additional CM to drop deeper to provide another option for the back line. It also requires our CBs switch the play cross field quicker, and then move forward with the ball to exploit that space right away. I find Lovren/ Matip are too static, standing still, which makes the press very effective.

We still won today, but Palace were able to entirely disrupt our rhythm and flow for large chunks of the 2nd half, using this very simply tactic.

9.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 02:44:03
Really? You have already made your mind up on Karius after 5 games?
GKs take time to settle in, and the pressure as it is has been immense on the young lad ever since he got here due to Migs' horror show for the last 3 seasons.

10.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 02:48:02
Agree with you on point#3 emre was struggling almost gave a penalty and was on yellow. Even lallana looked tired we should have got wini in earlier.

11.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 02:48:53
Obviously Karius isn't "awful" and to write off a young lad after a few games in a different League is pretty disgraceful!
However, a quality goalkeeping coach wouldn't go amiss, but that's been the case at LFC for decades!

12.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 05:06:35
Petty sure you are going to get trashed for this. I ageee with all three you mentioned. Karius needs a big push on. Doesn't look convincing to me.
The thing with Klopp is he doesn't react quick in accordance to the game. Subs comes very late as once he set up a team for the entire match, He persist with it as long as he could. There is no tactical switch.

We dominated the first half thanks to Coutinho controlling everything from that midfield. Padrew did react to this and appointed a night watch man in Cabaye in the second half to stop coutinho and for some part of the second half our run of play stopped. This is where Klopp doesn't react.

Lallana had an off day and I would have dubbed him long ago for a tactical switch.

13.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 05:38:07
I don't think Karius is awful. It is just taking him time to find his feet. None of the goals were his fault.

The defence needs more work as a unit.

14.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 06:25:54
I think you were watching abother game Fear of Red Planet. They had space on wings in the 1st half on counter attacks because they sat back and did not press us in our half of the pitch trying to stop us playing between the lines and compressing their mid and back lines. Though they put in a couple of crosses the one for the goal was a standard stood-up cross that Lovren goofed up with his positional sense. Get off picking on typical scapegoats like Moreno. he had a smashing game offensively and a good one defensively. Our CD's on the other hand didn't win a high % of their aerial battles which Palace punished. However made for great viewing. You should try enjoying the games more.

15.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 07:29:55
1 Coutinho is a genius
2 Matip is a beast
3 Lallana plays better with Wijnaldum.

16.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 07:48:32
Fear

Got it spot on on the third para. The additional CM to drop down to hold the line and suppprt the back line. But who mate? The in-disciplined Can? The lad doesn't know where Henderson is to when drop down.
I can't see a difference between Wiji, Can and Grujic. All great going forward and none has an idea how to hold the line.

17.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 08:56:16
Karius wasnt awful. He made a couple of decent stops and was blameless for either of their goals. He has yet to show he is any better than Migs but he needs a good half a season before that kind of harsh criticism is appropriate.

18.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 03:47:44
Karius had a good game, just a couple of kicks went wrong but lay off him.

19.) 30 Oct 2016
30 Oct 2016 10:01:44
Baffled how people can conclude Karius is awful based on that performance?

Really interesting point Re Moreno. I thought he did ok but he just doesn't stop enough crosses. This was a massive issue last year too. The 2nd goal is being blamed on Lovren, but that becomes irrelevant if the full back does his job 1st. He just seems incapable of getting close enough to the winger or getting his angles right to prevent the cross. Given his pace he has no excuse not to get closer which automatically improves his angles. If anything, Milner has an excuse for not getting tighter because he lacks the pace to match the winger if he decides to shift the ball and try and go past him.
Another thing is that Moreno takes too long to close down his man. He saunters over to him and then speeds up as he gets closer. Rather than quickly closing the space and then slowing to balance himself after he's closed the space. This is why he gives so many fouls away for lunging in, he's too far away from his man and so when he makes a challenge, the opponent has time to react and shift the ball so that it's not there by the time Moreno is.