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29 Jan 2016 05:41:49
Hi ED02 just wanted your opinion.

Should Liverpool just pay the money asked for Teixeira and end this farce.

What abt Chelsea, are they planning to meet the asking price.

Should everybody walk away and regroup in summer to see what is Shakhtar's position then?

pankaj

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not in a position to be able to do that right now and generally clubs are not keen to pay over the odds. PSG, Juventus and Chelsea all stepped back because of the cost - and he price of the played went up twice when Chelsea were discussing him with Shakhtar. But interest has not gone from Juventus or Chelsea. PSG has moved on.}


1.) 29 Jan 2016 12:13:52
To be fair, Shakhtar have (apparently) come back and said they want £50m now. Not sure if our lowballing strategy has created this situation or not or if this was always the case.

But I would say you can hardly blame the club for walking away from this for the time being.

I would add that I would rather we didn't add players just for the sake of it who aren't substantially better than what we already have and won't help us kick on for the second half of the season (Cahill, Nolito and Begovic being prime examples) as that simply makes no sense given that January is a bad market in general to be buying and the kind of signings we need to make just won't happen.

Also given that we started the season with Rodgers in charge we were always going to struggle this season (Anyone who watched last season could see that he didn't really know what he was doing) and I would rather Klopp works out what players he has and makes proper plans for the summer transfers rather than make rash decisions on quick fixes.


2.) 29 Jan 2016 12:20:31
I would be happy if they bought Teixera still, but if nothing happens and Klopp has more time with the squad and budget next summer, that's not a bad outcome at all.

Hopefully Sturridge, Coutinho and Origi return soon anyway.


3.) 29 Jan 2016 18:25:43
Quite right Zimbo, you are a sensible fan, unlike some. The 28th Feb, is our day, we will beat the crowd from COM and show Sterling that the grass is not always greener!


 

 

26 Nov 2015 05:45:03
hi ED02 . could you give some info about this tribunal regarding Ings transfer fee.
what are the basis of Burnleys evaluation of more than 10 million pounds and is it fair?
Why does Liverpool have to pay such high fees even though Ings contract was finished.
Is it because of the money spent by Burnley on his development?

pankaj

{Ed002's Note - The date, as far as I know has yet to be set - but it will be in the New Year. The Professional Football Compensation Committee will be formed to listen to cases put forward to justify why Burnley want what they do and why Liverpool only wish to pay a lesser amount. The members of the tribunal will typically include an independent contracts lawyer as a Chair, a representative of the leagues that the clubs play in (EPL and Championship) and two footballing representatives (probably one from an EPL side and one from a Championship side).

The onus was on the clubs to agree a fee and Burnley would have settled for something in the region of £7M-£8M. Liverpool initially offered £4M and eventually raised the offer to close to £6M. The Burnley figure of "£12M" is unconfirmed and speculation based on an offer Spurs made for the player.

The tribunal will take account of Ings now being a full England International. If I had to guess I suspect they will settle on a figure around £8M or so.

The reason for compensation being required is because the player is under 24. Burnley will have to pay part of the compensation to Bournemouth.}


1.) 26 Nov 2015 12:34:35
Ed02.I had read that they couldn't take the fact that he was now a full England international in account as this only happened AFTER he joined Liverpool. They could only look at the player he was etc while still at Burnley.
Does this make sense?

{Ed002's Note - No, they can and will take it in to account.}


2.) 26 Nov 2015 21:26:10
will the fee be made public ed or will it be "undisclosed"?

{Ed002's Note - All fees are in the public domain as they have to be registered with UEFA.}


3.) 26 Nov 2015 21:46:53
cheers ed going to be intresting to see the out come. he was doing well before injury. will be good value I'm sure.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree Matt.}


 

 

27 Sep 2015 03:03:18
Good game from the team. Nice to see us attacking and creating chances.
Looks like BR is on for one more game at least.
Though I like the way we played, Can is clearly not suited for CB. I would rather we bench him than play him there.
It's really no point in discussing defense under BR because he has no aptitude for it but at least we played some fast flowing attacking football and got few goals.

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27 Feb 2018 19:16:37
Seen a post down the page that Hendo and Sterling are better than Coutinho.
Cmon I respect Hendo but I don't think even he would agree.

pankaj

1.) 27 Feb 2018 19:38:13
For loyalty and being what Liverpool stands for, He is head and shoulders ahead of coutinho.


2.) 27 Feb 2018 19:53:48
Spot on, mad max. Cou could have done this another way, one that would keep him warm in our hearts as NOBODY begrudged him wanting to go to Barca. We just said "Stay till the end of the season and you can go" BUT he did not wanna do that and that is fine. He will have to live with his choices and frankly, I'm glad he's gone and Klopp and his x-team-mates have shown that we are better w/ o him.


3.) 27 Feb 2018 21:53:26
I know he left us on middle of season but he did wanna go in the summer but we didn't let him. I think if we were in with a chance of winning the title then he would have stayed. Unusually for January but the the title is all but sealed.

I don't blame Him, come on. Look at the pay rise he was offered by barca.

When he was here he was put on a pedestal by lfc fans. We were all calling him the best player in the world etc. Don't deny it. Its crazy how your opinions of him have changed just coz he has moved clubs.

It not like he left us in the lurch, he must have known we had a decent squad without him.

When he was here, I think we played by giving him the ball whenever we could. We tried to play everything through him. So if coutinio was having a good game we won, if he is not having such a good game we didn't have such a good game.

Now he has gone and now we play more free flowing as the targets for the ball are all three musketeers. If I'm honest I think Firmino is the better number 10, he is a cleverer footballer, quicker and has showed his decision making is spot on. But coutinio's accuracy was amazing, the way he kicked the ball was very David Beckham'ish. There is no one else in the wold who I would rather have taking a free kick for my team.

Come on guys he was great and you all know it. He loved liverpool, his kids have scouse accents. I don't think he would have left for any other team but he is Brazilian/ spainish and Barcelona is the dream. He was here for ages, we developed him to the player he is, he WILL have a big love for this team and I think we should show him some love.

Saying "he isn't world class, not yet" what a ridiculous Statement. When he was here I never saw anyone here say he isn't anything but world class. We debate this all the time how to define world class and when asking how many World class players do we have, the first name on Everybody's list was coutinio.

If your transfer fee is £140.000.000, you are world class. Simple as that.


4.) 28 Feb 2018 00:19:58
Shame his attitude towards the end of his time at Liverpool wasn't world class SS, I can't show a player love who acted the way he did, it was unprofessional and damn right disrespectful to us as a club who like you say developed him into the player he is today, he deserves no respect in my opinion, great player no doubt but as far as respect goes you get respect if you give it, he didn't know the meaning of the word, he wanted out and did anything he could to make that happen without hiding the fact. Sure if you want out go through the right channels and be professional about it, he wasn't.


5.) 28 Feb 2018 06:05:39
It wasnt just that he wanted to leave, he could of informed the club in january and given us ample time for a replacement. Instead he left it til 3 weeks of the window to go, at the first notice of barcelona publicly opening their mouths about him. How on earth did he just expect us to let him go? And then he followed that up by throwing a huge strop. He is one of the best players to have played for us in the premier league era yes but for me, he was always a very selfish player who never fulfilled his full potential as a playmaker because he was always too busy trying to shoot from 50 yards.


6.) 28 Feb 2018 09:43:43
How is sterling loyal?


7.) 28 Feb 2018 09:47:35
We don’t like phil coz he handed a TR at the wrong time. This page loved him more than their partners. I know that! I don’t know why people pretend!


8.) 28 Feb 2018 22:11:46
Again, Harry. Speak for yourself and stop making pathetic, blanket statements cos you sure don't speak for us all.


 

 

13 Jan 2018 10:37:51
Seen that in last match some people were slagging Can and even here in the forum seen this happen.

Last season he played out of his skin to get us champions league.

If he is running down his contract, what's the problem? Ppl would have been pissed if he had signed a new contract and then pushed for a move.

We can ask him to be benched if lack of effort but please no disrespect!

pankaj

1.) 13 Jan 2018 10:59:08
He was bollocks a season and a goodish last couple of weeks.

But he has to play out of his skin to even be near the level we need in our players.

Salah can have a half game and still be more th an enough for us.


2.) 13 Jan 2018 11:20:16
A bit harsh Winston, he's a Liverpool player right now and deserves respect. He's done everything to my knowledge the right way and been a true professional on and off the pitch. Now he's leaving people suddenly go against him. I wish the man the best of luck in his new adventure when it happens.

pankaj well said.


3.) 13 Jan 2018 11:22:04
When he is on it he can look the real deal and your not surprised Juve etc are after him, but when he is bad he is pretty awful, can’t make a 5 yard pass, gets caught in possession easily
I think people generally just get frustrated by the lack of consistency knowing what he can do. Maybe we should have played him in the number 6 role and kept him there rather than Henderson.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 11:39:08
Wasn’t he carrying an injury most of last season?


5.) 13 Jan 2018 12:09:14
Show some respect man! Klopp picks him. He wears the shirt and does the job he is asked to do. He simply wanted assurances over game time in the future which he hasn't been given. If he wants to go it's his choice.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 12:10:58
Aoe yes he was, well up until mid season anyway, but to say he got us into the champions league is a stretch though imo. He did contribute heavily in the last 5 or six matches though.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 12:51:10
Winston, chill out man. Saying Can has been bollocks for a season is well OTT. He has had his share of good and not so good games for LFC this season. On his day, he is a monster in CM, Fact. The issue is that he is inconsistent and needs to improve there. However, saying he's been bollocks for most of this season, is well OTT, IMO.


8.) 15 Jan 2018 07:09:23
Calling his inconsistency bollocks or bad is the same thing. Unless he wants to perform then he is utter utter garbage.


 

 

10 Jan 2018 04:25:10
No one has won anything with a defense that's a liability. Liverpool has had some of the best attacking players ( Suarez, Coutinho, now Salah, Mane etc) but never good defenders or goal keepers. We have won nothing from I don't know how many years now. We drop too many points due to defensive issues.

Everytime we come close our defense let's us down. BR didn't fix and Klopp is now starting to realise this after 3 years. What a waste of time😞

Still Klopp is adamant in his ways but we will continue to loose players.

pankaj

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? Barca and Real Madrid have had a weak defence for as long as I can remember. Man City are top of the league with a defence that is shambolic and relies on the opposition never being able to get at it due to teams sitting deep and pragmatic fouls at key moments. Man Utd's final title was won with Smalling and Jones at the heart of the defence. I could go through many more but there is no point, you are simply wrong.}


1.) 10 Jan 2018 04:54:56
Ed look at the past couple of seasons, how many wins have turned to draws and losses due to defensive errors. We could have won the Europa final and the league when Suarez was there.

Last season we scraped to get top 4 with the season littered with mistakes. This season before Coutinho left, I believe that we had the best attackers after City but look at our League position. I mean look at the Arsenal match we were winning and then almost lost.

Take a step back and look at the last 10 years, we have paid the price for never strengthening our Defense.

Klopp continues to play with fire by starting Mignolet! We will be remembered as a team that played some of the most entertaining football but never win anything.

PS. I am sorry if this is a very negative or whiny post. Had to get this off my chest.

{Ed001's Note - I never said it hasn't cost us have I? I was simply pointing out that your bald statement was wrong. Flat out wrong. You can win everything with a crap defence and many, many teams have done so.}


2.) 10 Jan 2018 05:32:44
If you think the past 3 years have been a waste of time then you clearly don’t enjoy watching football. Do you remember the last season of drudgery under Rodgers? Klopp’s team plays some of the best football I’ve seen a Liverpool team play, admittedly some of our defending has been questionable but we have just spent £75 million on a new defender. Perhaps you’d be happier if we sacked Klopp and appointed someone like Pulis, I’m sure he’d fix the defence and make you happy.


3.) 10 Jan 2018 06:03:36
As Ed has demonstrated, it seems that in modern football, a good midfield is far more important than a good backline. A good midfield will prevent the opposition getting at the back four. We couldn't get away with a crappy back four (and goalkeeper) in 13/ 14 because the midfield did not sufficiently protect them, the task was primarily handed to Gerrard and he didn't have the legs to properly do it.

{Ed001's Note - spot on SG, the midfield is the most important position in all eras, but it has become even more important in recent years.}


4.) 10 Jan 2018 06:05:57
So is it simply not possible for a team to be defensively and attackingly sound at once?

{Ed001's Note - it is possible to have balance, yes. Difficult though, as it is very difficult to attack with enough numbers to keep a solid defence or defend with enough numbers to have a strong attack as well.}


5.) 10 Jan 2018 06:13:17
Smeg you are misunderstanding me. I love the we play and Klopp but I equally hate the way our defense has repeatedly cost us.

If Klopp is here for 7-8 years then cool, take your time and build the team but if this is like a 4-5 years deal then he needs to be ruthless.

Every other season we loose our good players or we come close to winning something. I am not saying it's a waste of time but this is a vicious cycle.

It is hubris to not see what we have been doing wrong for well part of a decade now.


6.) 10 Jan 2018 05:46:57
Bottom line is that we really need to win something this year. Obviously the FA cup is our best bet and Klopp knows that.

I just hope we can wrap up fourth place sooner rather than later aswell to concentrate on the cups.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 06:40:29
I will add that it's more important for some teams to have strong back fours than it is for other teams. It is important for Liverpool because they attack with a lot of numbers, and leaving error-prone defenders at the back like Lovren is a recipe for disaster. It is not as important for City because they play a more possession-based game, and because they are now so good at it, oppositions rarely get a chance to pressure their back line.

At the moment I am pretty confused about why people are rating Ederson so highly, he has not had that much to do.

{Ed001's Note - it is more that City's midfield is more adept at fouling the opposition and getting away with it, so breaking up play when they lose the ball and allowing numbers to get back. That is why their defence rarely gets exposed, not because they have possession.}


8.) 10 Jan 2018 06:58:10
To be honest Ed I haven't watched many City games this season as I know they'll win anyway, so I'll take your word, I just assumed with Guardiola there they'd be really good at the possession game.

{Ed001's Note - they are, but it is the cynical fouls that is giving them an edge, more so than the possession. They overcommit like Liverpool but are much better at stopping the break, unlike when we were caught for Everton's equaliser. If that had been City, Lallana would have cut down Bolasie and killed the break right there and then. When it is us, Lallana does nothing and the break ends up in a goal as the only player who attempts a foul is Matip and he is so weak he ends up getting thrown to the ground instead.}


9.) 10 Jan 2018 07:25:51
Why the obsession with winning cups this season?
We need to consistently qualify for the CL to improve our squad.
This should be a long term project, it takes 3 to 4 years to build a great squad, maybe longer - have patience mate.


10.) 10 Jan 2018 07:27:09
It is something you need to be really good at because otherwise, you will get a red card every second or third game.

They do seem to have more physical players in their midfield, I agree. Keita has a lot of venom and he will potentially help us 'improve' our fouling, as cynical as that sounds.


11.) 10 Jan 2018 07:41:54
Because ultimately we play to win, OIrish. That being said, I hate the "trophy is a trophy" rhetoric when it's used to argue, for example, that finishing 6th and winning the Europa League is better than finishing 4th and winning nothing. Any rational person would say that in most years 4th place is harder to achieve than the Europa League.

We also need to win the FA Cup because it builds a winning culture. It will help the players believe in themselves when they are in future title fights.


12.) 10 Jan 2018 07:57:44
Winning the champions league is our best bet. It’s the only tournament the lads won’t treat lightly from here on in and any team in the world with Firmino Salah and mane in form can beat anyone else. As a side note, it’s also the only tournament without mignolet. #Believe.


13.) 10 Jan 2018 08:04:41
SG, I understand where you're coming from of course, but in my eyes, realistically, we have to aim for CL places for a couple of seasons in a row at least to get in the right quality to take us to the top of the league, which is the ultimate win, is it not?

There's no perfect way to do it obviously, just have to look at Leicester's win - but if we start pressuring human beings to win cups as well as expecting them to move up the league with limited resources in comparison to Untied, City, Chelsea etc, we'll never hit the ultimate goal of winning that evasive league title.
Aas a fan of nearly 35 years, I feel genuinely, we're very close, just need to keep patient.


14.) 10 Jan 2018 08:17:16
Kev I think that aiming for an FA Cup win and a CL place is very achievable this season. While its significance has declined, IMO the FA Cup is still one of the top trophies.


15.) 10 Jan 2018 09:13:43
Ed1 we could do with some timely / professional / cynical fouls sometimes. Lallana on bolasie springs to mind.

{Ed001's Note - exactly.}


16.) 10 Jan 2018 11:01:09
SG, It's not that I think it's not achievable, I just think it's not realistic.
I hope you're right and I'm wrong, believe me.
I would just prefer us to have a couple of seasons in a row like last season and then we'll be able to get more quality in.
Salah for example would never have given up Roma for us if we weren't in the CL in my opinion.
If you aim too high, you can fall harder, but then again if you aim too low, you hit the trees :)
I think next season (if we get CL this season), we will see a huge improvement in our league form again once we get that quality in the summer i. e. Mignolet's replacement (this has to be the top target or second behind a top CM) and a top CM, plus a backup Striker if Solanke doesn't reach his potential.


 

 

08 Jan 2018 04:33:53
I am all for being logical and waiting till summer for the right player but now I am panicking. With no Coutinho we tend to just pass the ball around with no penetration. We need somebody to step up!

pankaj

1.) 08 Jan 2018 06:14:07
You remember how we played during the “back injury”?


2.) 08 Jan 2018 07:14:59
We have a better points record without Coutinho (2.2 per game) than with him (1.8 per game) this season.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 08:19:18
OP if you are panicking, you have two problems instead of one: us getting a decent replacement for Cou in Jan and of course, panicking. Panicking gets you nor LFC nowhere cos we have seen the damage panicking hence, panic buys have caused this club b4 Klopp arrived and I'd rather sign no one than have to deal with that disaster again, I'm sorry. Also, increasing the no. of probs is not the way to go if you are trying to solve only one at a time. Just take a chill pill and trust that Klopp will do the right thing.

Now, remember that cos Klopp does not do what you nor I want does NOT mean he does not care, not work hard to get a good replacement for Cou or is not doing the right thing. It simply means he is taking another route and for right now, I trust his judgement whatever the outcome of this TW is. You should too.


 

 

06 Jan 2018 18:36:39
Bye Coutinho. some great moments along the way. Been one of our best players for last couple of seasons. helped us achieve top 4.

Best of luck at Barca

YNWA

P. S. : guys don't be bitter, he was playing awesome and was due a change in his career. We have been paid handsomely, let's get some quality replacements in!

pankaj

1.) 06 Jan 2018 18:47:30
Wish he’d left it until the end of the season is all.


2.) 06 Jan 2018 18:57:00
That's the trouble pankaj, I'm not sure there is quality availiable in this window selling now could derail our top 4 push as we can't just buy a player we don't really want or need because coutinho has gone. Other sides in Europe competing for champions league places will not want to lose their best players in the middle of a campaign.


3.) 06 Jan 2018 19:23:22
I also wish he had stayed till the season's end but we are not a one man team (**spurs**) . Life goes on.

@ den82 : no we can't replace him directly right now or even in the summer but I am sure, Klopp will think of something.

On another note, I think Can should not be the first choice anymore as I feel he is not able to give his 100%. I don't have any hard feelings for him as Keita is also facings issues at Lepzig, so this "agree now and wait until summer" business doesn't work so well.


 

 

 

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Coutinho does nothing. really?

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13 Aug 2018 16:22:23
Milner has better delivery than hendo, so Mili for me.

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22 May 2018 16:21:18
That makes no sense MK, talk about bias. Robertson better than Marcelo. yeah right.

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10 Jan 2018 06:13:17
Smeg you are misunderstanding me. I love the we play and Klopp but I equally hate the way our defense has repeatedly cost us.

If Klopp is here for 7-8 years then cool, take your time and build the team but if this is like a 4-5 years deal then he needs to be ruthless.

Every other season we loose our good players or we come close to winning something. I am not saying it's a waste of time but this is a vicious cycle.

It is hubris to not see what we have been doing wrong for well part of a decade now.

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10 Jan 2018 04:54:56
Ed look at the past couple of seasons, how many wins have turned to draws and losses due to defensive errors. We could have won the Europa final and the league when Suarez was there.

Last season we scraped to get top 4 with the season littered with mistakes. This season before Coutinho left, I believe that we had the best attackers after City but look at our League position. I mean look at the Arsenal match we were winning and then almost lost.

Take a step back and look at the last 10 years, we have paid the price for never strengthening our Defense.

Klopp continues to play with fire by starting Mignolet! We will be remembered as a team that played some of the most entertaining football but never win anything.

PS. I am sorry if this is a very negative or whiny post. Had to get this off my chest.

pankaj

{Ed001's Note - I never said it hasn't cost us have I? I was simply pointing out that your bald statement was wrong. Flat out wrong. You can win everything with a crap defence and many, many teams have done so.}