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29 Jan 2016 05:41:49
Hi ED02 just wanted your opinion.

Should Liverpool just pay the money asked for Teixeira and end this farce.

What abt Chelsea, are they planning to meet the asking price.

Should everybody walk away and regroup in summer to see what is Shakhtar's position then?

pankaj

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not in a position to be able to do that right now and generally clubs are not keen to pay over the odds. PSG, Juventus and Chelsea all stepped back because of the cost - and he price of the played went up twice when Chelsea were discussing him with Shakhtar. But interest has not gone from Juventus or Chelsea. PSG has moved on.}


1.) 29 Jan 2016 12:13:52
To be fair, Shakhtar have (apparently) come back and said they want £50m now. Not sure if our lowballing strategy has created this situation or not or if this was always the case.

But I would say you can hardly blame the club for walking away from this for the time being.

I would add that I would rather we didn't add players just for the sake of it who aren't substantially better than what we already have and won't help us kick on for the second half of the season (Cahill, Nolito and Begovic being prime examples) as that simply makes no sense given that January is a bad market in general to be buying and the kind of signings we need to make just won't happen.

Also given that we started the season with Rodgers in charge we were always going to struggle this season (Anyone who watched last season could see that he didn't really know what he was doing) and I would rather Klopp works out what players he has and makes proper plans for the summer transfers rather than make rash decisions on quick fixes.


2.) 29 Jan 2016 12:20:31
I would be happy if they bought Teixera still, but if nothing happens and Klopp has more time with the squad and budget next summer, that's not a bad outcome at all.

Hopefully Sturridge, Coutinho and Origi return soon anyway.


3.) 29 Jan 2016 18:25:43
Quite right Zimbo, you are a sensible fan, unlike some. The 28th Feb, is our day, we will beat the crowd from COM and show Sterling that the grass is not always greener!


 

 

26 Nov 2015 05:45:03
hi ED02 . could you give some info about this tribunal regarding Ings transfer fee.
what are the basis of Burnleys evaluation of more than 10 million pounds and is it fair?
Why does Liverpool have to pay such high fees even though Ings contract was finished.
Is it because of the money spent by Burnley on his development?

pankaj

{Ed002's Note - The date, as far as I know has yet to be set - but it will be in the New Year. The Professional Football Compensation Committee will be formed to listen to cases put forward to justify why Burnley want what they do and why Liverpool only wish to pay a lesser amount. The members of the tribunal will typically include an independent contracts lawyer as a Chair, a representative of the leagues that the clubs play in (EPL and Championship) and two footballing representatives (probably one from an EPL side and one from a Championship side).

The onus was on the clubs to agree a fee and Burnley would have settled for something in the region of £7M-£8M. Liverpool initially offered £4M and eventually raised the offer to close to £6M. The Burnley figure of "£12M" is unconfirmed and speculation based on an offer Spurs made for the player.

The tribunal will take account of Ings now being a full England International. If I had to guess I suspect they will settle on a figure around £8M or so.

The reason for compensation being required is because the player is under 24. Burnley will have to pay part of the compensation to Bournemouth.}


1.) 26 Nov 2015 12:34:35
Ed02.I had read that they couldn't take the fact that he was now a full England international in account as this only happened AFTER he joined Liverpool. They could only look at the player he was etc while still at Burnley.
Does this make sense?

{Ed002's Note - No, they can and will take it in to account.}


2.) 26 Nov 2015 21:26:10
will the fee be made public ed or will it be "undisclosed"?

{Ed002's Note - All fees are in the public domain as they have to be registered with UEFA.}


3.) 26 Nov 2015 21:46:53
cheers ed going to be intresting to see the out come. he was doing well before injury. will be good value I'm sure.

{Ed002's Note - I would agree Matt.}


 

 

27 Sep 2015 03:03:18
Good game from the team. Nice to see us attacking and creating chances.
Looks like BR is on for one more game at least.
Though I like the way we played, Can is clearly not suited for CB. I would rather we bench him than play him there.
It's really no point in discussing defense under BR because he has no aptitude for it but at least we played some fast flowing attacking football and got few goals.

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04 Jan 2019 06:47:00
Whatever happens. I am damn proud of this team!

pankaj

 

 

10 Nov 2018 08:12:27
Ok i was really disappointed with the red star match and yes we may not qualify for the round of 16

But Klopp has my complete backing, we have to think long term. 8-9 years of stability is what we need, where we compete for the league every year and qualify for champions league every year.

pankaj

1.) 10 Nov 2018 10:20:25
People just go daft mate, we lose a game and suddenly we're the worst team on earth needing a new manager! does my head in. Klopp gets my backing as well, what he and the owners have done for the club in only a few years is nothing short of incredible.

BUT, hey we did lose a game so Klopp must go, we also must bring in billionaires because FSG aren't putting enough money in, not to mention half of that team are useless, they must go! we want to be challenging for the title after all, oh wait ;) .

Some posts on here since that loss have been embarrassing. Luckily though the majority on here know what they're talking about and understand exactly how well overall we're doing.

I'm just going to put an irrelevant question out there, if we were told 'you'll lose against Fulham or Red Star, you can choose which one' I'd choose Red star any day, I want the league, if we lost against Fulham and beat Red star I'd be bloody gutted. I care about the CL, of course I do and I believe we'll go far again but I care more about the league and in the league we're doing brilliant.


2.) 10 Nov 2018 10:34:03
Next season is ours!


3.) 10 Nov 2018 15:38:45
This season is ours, all we have to do is reach out and take it.


4.) 10 Nov 2018 15:39:30
Are we still making progress?

That’s the question we should ask, not what have we won.

Once you stop making progress, the writing is on the wall.


5.) 10 Nov 2018 23:10:07
We have been making progress since Klopp walked in the door and losing a game vs Red Star or not playing our best at times this season (while being undefeated in the PL, 2 points off City) does not remove from this glaring fact.


 

 

01 Oct 2018 06:22:50
I see lot of posts abt Hendo, here are my thoughts:

Good if you want the momentum going, he recycles the ball quickly, knows exactly where every team mate is and where possible threats lurk, most cases his positioning is bang on the money.

Bad if you want creativity, he doesn't drive forward, dribble or look for key passes very often. This is particularly true for tense situations where there are high risks. Team mates don't expect him to make incisive passes so rarely make runs in anticipation.

I think there are games and situations where he is indispensable but certainly not the best option in others. I personally think that he will continue to be in and out of the first team, horses for courses.

pankaj

1.) 01 Oct 2018 06:54:46
That’s just it. Hendo does drive forward but only when it’s necessary. He’s not supposed to do it frequently as we have plenty of options in attack.

And, he is also not “creative” in the sense of 1 on 1 attacking. But, he is one of the best passers of the ball we have on the team. Hendo is the first midfielder on the team sheet for me.


2.) 01 Oct 2018 07:01:10
'Hendo is the first midfielder on the team sheet for me' me too, well said Tj. Followed by Milner and Keita.


3.) 01 Oct 2018 07:05:19
Very much disagree. Hendo should be condemned to minimal game time as soon as Fabinho is up to pace. Hendo simply slows the play down too much. As a top side we need to dominate games on the front foot like City do. Fernandinho in their holding role always gets the ball and looks for a forward pass first of all. Hendo’s first idea is always backwards to cb/ keeper or sideways to the full backs, he doesn’t do enough to feed the attacking midfielders and strikers.


4.) 01 Oct 2018 07:23:33
I like Henderson but I don’t think he’s crucial anymore.
That’s progress and that’s life, it moves on.
As BRover said below, horses for courses and it’s about the best fit for a given situation.


5.) 01 Oct 2018 07:26:27
We're not City Benny, we're Liverpool a completely different team, have you seen how incredible we've done this season upto now? come on don't start comparing us to them, we beat them 3/ 4 times last season, sure they ran away with the league will they do it again this season? will they hell, also, we knocked them out of the champions league mate so their midfield really worked in a competition they want to win the most didn't it? . They have a fantastic team but so do we, this comparing us to City is completely irrelevant.

Hendo is our captain and it's fully deserved, it should be completely respected as well, it really pisses me off when I see people say we should remove him from the team etc, there's so many people who are completely blind to what he can actually do.


6.) 01 Oct 2018 08:29:28
Yes Salah brilliantly! How many games has Henderson started?


7.) 01 Oct 2018 11:36:25
Case 1 is the job of a holding midfielder which is exactly what Fabinho and Wijnaldum are doing atm! Aren’t they? or joe Allen was doing.
Case 2 is what you expect from a CM which he simply don’t do it anymore or we have made him to play deeper over the years.

His passings are mainly where he looks at which is to full
backs and center backs and one reason why we rely VVD to bring the ball out from the back.

Henderson is no Jorginho nor Keita!


8.) 01 Oct 2018 13:54:43
The annoying thing with Hendo, or just about any player for our team, is how everyone speaks in absolutes. In my opinion, Hendo is not playing his best football at the moment, and that the team looks better when one of shaqiri, keita or firmino drop into a number 10 role at his expense at this very moment in time. Milner and Wijnaldum are playing better than him and deserve to stay.

I don’t understand how hard that is to say without dealing in absolutes such as ‘he’s not good enough’, ‘we don’t need him anymore’ or ‘he slows the play down too much’. Henderson is a very good player, he’s our captain, i don’t want to see him anywhere other than liverpool, i just think for the next few games other players should get their chance. We’ve all clamoured for bolstering the squad so we are able to rotate it according to form and injuries; but now all of a sudden taking a player out of the team must mean he is finished at the club? It makes me furious and sick that people have such knee jerk reactions in the world of modern football, particularly towards players who have given us so much and still have so much more to give.


9.) 01 Oct 2018 14:55:34
Couldn't agree more Woolback. Hendo's importance will grow as the season progresses, he'll get back to form and when Salah and co are producing at full tilt we need a player like him to break up play, keep the ball, and hit teams on the counter with his long balls. It's a long season, we shouldn't be judging a player who has given everything to this team on 4 starts and 4 substitute appearances.


10.) 01 Oct 2018 18:07:56
Henderson is our captain. He topped all the stats last year, milner too. He can drive forward. He is not the creative midfielder in the team so why judge him on his creativity. He is the engine of the team. If you want to see what he offers the team, watch the Paris game. He was phenomenal.


11.) 01 Oct 2018 19:58:11
And there goes Harry again, comparing one of ours to another player who does not play for us. The names change BUT the pointless comparisons stay the same. I guess. Now regarding Hendo, MM is correct, He was brilliant vs PSG of Rabiot (a player that many believe is better than him), taking over the game in midfield and letting Neymar know it would not be a cake walk. Also, he took over the Roma game at Anfield last season where he shut down Naingolaan, (again, one who is considered to be better than him) all game long BUT his critics will act as if these examples (and many more) never happened.

Also, "He does not drive the team forward". What does that nonsense even mean, exactly. HE IS A DM. It is not his job to "drive the team forward" in the Klopp system. it up to Keita to do that which he does very well. I would ask Wiji to do that as well BUT I know he won't cos he is too busy hiding during games, something Hendo can NEVER be accused of.


12.) 01 Oct 2018 22:21:58
All this about our captain that has been proved how critical he is to our team when he has been suspended or injured! What happened when Brenda nearly won us the league? It went down hill when hendo got suspended, the team win percentage is a lot better with him in the team than without him.
It's pretty wired that we are Liverpool fans but some are having orgasms over the Chelsea midfield!


13.) 01 Oct 2018 23:44:52
Don't worry, Hendo's Bro. Whenever we win and Hendo has a blinder, crickets is all you will hear from his critics (which is normal) while some fantasize over Chelsea's and other teams midfielders (as you say) . I would ask "such" people to go support these teams possesing these midfielders BUT I know they won't. Klopp himself has said that Hendo is the leader and General of this team BUT obviously, his critics know better than he does obviously. Not too bothered, tho. Hendo is boss and I don't care how many poor games he has cos you know what, everyone has them EXCEPT of course, Jorginho and Kovacic.


14.) 04 Oct 2018 16:12:26
lol brover but your bang on mate agree with everything you have said mate and couldn't of put it better!


 

 

27 Feb 2018 19:16:37
Seen a post down the page that Hendo and Sterling are better than Coutinho.
Cmon I respect Hendo but I don't think even he would agree.

pankaj

1.) 27 Feb 2018 19:38:13
For loyalty and being what Liverpool stands for, He is head and shoulders ahead of coutinho.


2.) 27 Feb 2018 19:53:48
Spot on, mad max. Cou could have done this another way, one that would keep him warm in our hearts as NOBODY begrudged him wanting to go to Barca. We just said "Stay till the end of the season and you can go" BUT he did not wanna do that and that is fine. He will have to live with his choices and frankly, I'm glad he's gone and Klopp and his x-team-mates have shown that we are better w/ o him.


3.) 27 Feb 2018 21:53:26
I know he left us on middle of season but he did wanna go in the summer but we didn't let him. I think if we were in with a chance of winning the title then he would have stayed. Unusually for January but the the title is all but sealed.

I don't blame Him, come on. Look at the pay rise he was offered by barca.

When he was here he was put on a pedestal by lfc fans. We were all calling him the best player in the world etc. Don't deny it. Its crazy how your opinions of him have changed just coz he has moved clubs.

It not like he left us in the lurch, he must have known we had a decent squad without him.

When he was here, I think we played by giving him the ball whenever we could. We tried to play everything through him. So if coutinio was having a good game we won, if he is not having such a good game we didn't have such a good game.

Now he has gone and now we play more free flowing as the targets for the ball are all three musketeers. If I'm honest I think Firmino is the better number 10, he is a cleverer footballer, quicker and has showed his decision making is spot on. But coutinio's accuracy was amazing, the way he kicked the ball was very David Beckham'ish. There is no one else in the wold who I would rather have taking a free kick for my team.

Come on guys he was great and you all know it. He loved liverpool, his kids have scouse accents. I don't think he would have left for any other team but he is Brazilian/ spainish and Barcelona is the dream. He was here for ages, we developed him to the player he is, he WILL have a big love for this team and I think we should show him some love.

Saying "he isn't world class, not yet" what a ridiculous Statement. When he was here I never saw anyone here say he isn't anything but world class. We debate this all the time how to define world class and when asking how many World class players do we have, the first name on Everybody's list was coutinio.

If your transfer fee is £140.000.000, you are world class. Simple as that.


4.) 28 Feb 2018 00:19:58
Shame his attitude towards the end of his time at Liverpool wasn't world class SS, I can't show a player love who acted the way he did, it was unprofessional and damn right disrespectful to us as a club who like you say developed him into the player he is today, he deserves no respect in my opinion, great player no doubt but as far as respect goes you get respect if you give it, he didn't know the meaning of the word, he wanted out and did anything he could to make that happen without hiding the fact. Sure if you want out go through the right channels and be professional about it, he wasn't.


5.) 28 Feb 2018 06:05:39
It wasnt just that he wanted to leave, he could of informed the club in january and given us ample time for a replacement. Instead he left it til 3 weeks of the window to go, at the first notice of barcelona publicly opening their mouths about him. How on earth did he just expect us to let him go? And then he followed that up by throwing a huge strop. He is one of the best players to have played for us in the premier league era yes but for me, he was always a very selfish player who never fulfilled his full potential as a playmaker because he was always too busy trying to shoot from 50 yards.


6.) 28 Feb 2018 09:43:43
How is sterling loyal?


7.) 28 Feb 2018 09:47:35
We don’t like phil coz he handed a TR at the wrong time. This page loved him more than their partners. I know that! I don’t know why people pretend!


8.) 28 Feb 2018 22:11:46
Again, Harry. Speak for yourself and stop making pathetic, blanket statements cos you sure don't speak for us all.


 

 

13 Jan 2018 10:37:51
Seen that in last match some people were slagging Can and even here in the forum seen this happen.

Last season he played out of his skin to get us champions league.

If he is running down his contract, what's the problem? Ppl would have been pissed if he had signed a new contract and then pushed for a move.

We can ask him to be benched if lack of effort but please no disrespect!

pankaj

1.) 13 Jan 2018 10:59:08
He was bollocks a season and a goodish last couple of weeks.

But he has to play out of his skin to even be near the level we need in our players.

Salah can have a half game and still be more th an enough for us.


2.) 13 Jan 2018 11:20:16
A bit harsh Winston, he's a Liverpool player right now and deserves respect. He's done everything to my knowledge the right way and been a true professional on and off the pitch. Now he's leaving people suddenly go against him. I wish the man the best of luck in his new adventure when it happens.

pankaj well said.


3.) 13 Jan 2018 11:22:04
When he is on it he can look the real deal and your not surprised Juve etc are after him, but when he is bad he is pretty awful, can’t make a 5 yard pass, gets caught in possession easily
I think people generally just get frustrated by the lack of consistency knowing what he can do. Maybe we should have played him in the number 6 role and kept him there rather than Henderson.


4.) 13 Jan 2018 11:39:08
Wasn’t he carrying an injury most of last season?


5.) 13 Jan 2018 12:09:14
Show some respect man! Klopp picks him. He wears the shirt and does the job he is asked to do. He simply wanted assurances over game time in the future which he hasn't been given. If he wants to go it's his choice.


6.) 13 Jan 2018 12:10:58
Aoe yes he was, well up until mid season anyway, but to say he got us into the champions league is a stretch though imo. He did contribute heavily in the last 5 or six matches though.


7.) 13 Jan 2018 12:51:10
Winston, chill out man. Saying Can has been bollocks for a season is well OTT. He has had his share of good and not so good games for LFC this season. On his day, he is a monster in CM, Fact. The issue is that he is inconsistent and needs to improve there. However, saying he's been bollocks for most of this season, is well OTT, IMO.


8.) 15 Jan 2018 07:09:23
Calling his inconsistency bollocks or bad is the same thing. Unless he wants to perform then he is utter utter garbage.


 

 

 

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24 May 2016 18:22:53
Coutinho does nothing. really?

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26 Nov 2018 05:52:12
Jorginho played the pass to Hazard against us. So he is not all that average. When was the last time our midfielders played a pass for a goal?

Let's not be too hasty in judging other teams players.

pankaj

{Ed001's Note - hardly hasty to judge him on years of playing in Serie A when he flopped every time he was put under pressure.}


 

 

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08 Oct 2018 07:20:56
Hendo did have a good game. he had perfect positioning.

This was a game tailormade for hin as we had to be wary of quick brdaks by City.

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13 Aug 2018 16:22:23
Milner has better delivery than hendo, so Mili for me.

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22 May 2018 16:21:18
That makes no sense MK, talk about bias. Robertson better than Marcelo. yeah right.

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29 Mar 2018 06:24:21
I hope to God Robbo is available. I don't trust Moreno at all, particularly on big occassions.

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