01 Aug 2016 06:26:49
Eds 001, what is the situation with Amavi? How much do Villa want for him, and how much do Liverpool value him at? More to the point, how much does Klopp want him? If money was not an issue, who would you choose for our LB to challenge Moreno, who is clearly going nowhere? Personally, I would go for Hector, who I believe will be top notch, and who has a long international career ahead of him too.

{Ed001's Note - Villa want to keep him and are not open to talks with us, as we messed them about. I have no idea, what I have seen of Hector has not shown him to be anything special. We have very few options left to us now.}


1.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:41:51
With that said ed are we still trying to talk to Villa then or looking elsewere? To me its looking like we will stick with what we have got, especially as Milner has been asked to fill in at full back.

{Ed001's Note - looking elsewhere. Milner is playing there because it is beginning to look like we will fail to sign one, let alone the two we actually really need.}


2.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 06:58:31
ed, is there any one person to point the finger at for the chilwell deal falling through?

{Ed001's Note - no, it is more than one person at fault for our recruitment issues. It needs an overhaul. Hopefully it will be done when Ayre moves on, as it needs a fresh view to see what needs to be done.}


3.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 07:04:44
sorry that was a poorly phrased leading question lol I guess what I'm wondering aloud about is, what has the logic been behind the transfer dealings to secure us a LB? If we believe Klopp, he sounds happy with everyone we have brought in. Has the transfer team let Klopp down on this occasion?


4.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 07:05:34
I wish I could delete posts that I've already sent through lol. thanks for the earlier reply ed :)

{Ed001's Note - no worries.}


5.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 07:54:31
Cheers for reply ed. Interesting you say the 2 we need. Do you think both LB and RB need replacing mate? Surely we will get at least a LB over the line.

{Ed001's Note - well yes, but I meant two left backs, as we would otherwise have Moreno or Milner as the back up.}


6.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 09:16:01
There's talk of Villa being interested in Luis Alberto. Why doesn't the club look into swapping Amavi for him?


7.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 10:11:46
Problem is if Villa don't want to sell Amavi and we do want to sell LA then Villa hold all the aces on that one and don't have to do a swap. Also interested in doesn't sound the same as need, so again they hold control on this one. But at least we didn't spend 11m on a player we really needed so a success there.


8.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 11:53:41
Failing to sign any left-back is a depressing and frightening prospect at the same time. I would even be happy with a panic-buy to bring in Jetro Willems. He can't be worse than Moreno. Well, he could be, but it'd be worth a shot.


9.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 12:33:59
Last I heard QPR and Wolves want Alberto, Sevilla offered 2mil for him which got point blank refused, Liverpool want 6mil.


10.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 12:40:35
I'd rather we kept Flanno and played him and Klavan there than panic buy.


11.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 13:53:37
Is this the right place to reopen the debate about our fetish for buying un-needed midfid players rather than filling a position where we really really are weak? The decision makers around the club need a proper wake up call!


12.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 13:00:22
Failing to sign a LB is rank incompetence as there are many out there to choose from.


13.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 13:07:42
Sorry Jurgen Meister but that is stupid and dangerous.

The club can ill afford to completely spunk away another x million on a player/ s that is no better or slightly better than what we already have.

Whilst I don't think we have particularly prioritised this summer very well I still don't think that justifies desperation purchases for the sake of it.


14.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 17:19:34
Whoever it is that is responsible for our recruitment embarrassments, are they even being held accountable for their actions? Do FSG not step in and give them a talking to for acting unprofessional?

How can they continue the same negotiating tactics when it always gets the club into trouble, year after year? Every transfer window it is the same old story, we are set to sign a player, it goes quiet, and then the deal is off because it turns out that Liverpool messed around the selling club and got told to go away. Same old bloody story.

I can't believe it still hasn't been rectified. These types of situations are so avoidable yet we always let them happen.


15.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 17:22:03
Jurgen,

Panic buying is the worst thing we can do. That's all we've done for the last [insert number here] seasons. That's why we have a bloated squad and spend most of preseason trying to offload players to other clubs, either by sale or loan.

You also have to consider the financial costs of not just the price purchase of the player, but wages, agents and the rest of the jazz that comes with buying players. This isn't football manager.

Let's put things into perspective. We all know we need a better player at left-back, but let's cut this kid Moreno a bit of slack. He's a young guy, has a lot of good attributes for a modern fullback and from what I can gather, has a good attitude and respect for the club. I don't know about you, but I wonder how the lad has felt this preseason? Every single social media site has been tearing him to bits - not exactly a confidence booster when the only support you do have has turned against you as well.


16.) 01 Aug 2016
01 Aug 2016 19:16:08
JH, Moreno is a young player who hasn`t learned a single thing since his debut at Sevilla. In fact, BR was warned about the very qualies or lack thereof, that he is showing us now for two years and still he has done nothing to change this. Don`t believe me? Vs Chelsea in LA, he went for a ball with Willian that every man and his dog knew he could never win and what happened? He dives in, doesn`t get the ball (breaking rumour, I know) and takes Willian out. In the PL, that is a yellow card. He has cost us more goals than I care to remember hence, he deserves every bit of grief he gets. Don`t talk to us like we are being unfair to him because there is NO witch hunt against him. An awful player who loves and respects the club is STILL an awful player. That is a verifiable fact. He is a liability and needs to get gone, end of.